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|actor6=[[Hartmut Beer]]
 
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|actor7=[[Fred Delmare]]
 
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= Handguns =
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= Revolvers =
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== Colt 1851 Navy Percussion ==
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One of Johnson's henchmen carries an authentic percussion [[Colt 1851 Navy]] revolver (cylinder has slots for percussion caps). A Colt 1851 Navy is also seen in the drawer of local shopkeeper (Gerry Wolff).
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[[Image:1851Navy.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt 1851 Navy - .36 caliber]]
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[[File:Apachen-Colt Navy-1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Johnson's henchman carries the Colt 1851 Navy revolver at his belt.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Colt Navy-2.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The Colt Navy in the drawer of local shopkeeper (Gerry Wolff).]]
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== Colt 1851 Navy Cartridge ==
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Cartridge versions of [[Colt 1851 Navy]] revolvers are used by some of Johnson's men and townsmen of Santa Rita. These revolvers with brass frame and barrel and white cylinder are seen in many other DEFA Western movies. The lack of the pin that fixes the barrel with the frame on original Colt 1851 allows to guess that screen guns are versions, originally made for metallic cartridges (rather than converted from cap and ball model), likely of European production.
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[[Image:Richards-navy-1851.jpg|thumb|none|300px|For comparison: Colt 1851 Navy with a cartridge conversion. This is a reproduction of the gun used by [[Eli Wallach]] in ''[[The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly]]'' and imported by Cimmaron Arms.]]
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[[File:Apachen-SAA-1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Morrie ([[Wilfried Zander]]) carries a Colt 1851 Navy revolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Colt1851NavyCartridge-2.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Another view of Morrie's revolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Colt1851NavyCartridge-03.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Morrie draws his gun.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Colt Navy-3.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A henchman, carrying the Colt Navy, is shot by Apache warrior.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Colt1851NavyCartridge-5.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A local man holds a Colt Navy revolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Colt1851NavyCartridge-6.jpg|thumb|none|599px|]]
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[[File:Apachen-Colt Navy-4.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A man in center holds his Colt Navy.]]
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== Single Action Army ==
 
== Single Action Army ==
[[Single Action Army]] revolvers are used by Johnson ([[Milan Bosiljcic]]) and most of his men. Ramon ([[Leon Niemczyk]]), the chief manager of copper mine, also uses the SAA revolver. The revolvers are mostly of "Cavalry" model, though some "Artillery" are also seen. Strange enough, not a single character carries revolver in holster, preferring to tuck them into belts.
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=== Cavalry Model ===
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[[Single Action Army|Single Action Army Cavalry model]] revolvers are used by Johnson ([[Milan Bosiljcic]]) and most of his men. Strange enough, not a single character carries revolver in holster, preferring to tuck them into belts.
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''Note:'' see additional images on [[Talk:Apaches (Apachen)#Single Action Army|talk page]].
 
[[Image:ColtSAALongBarrel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Single Action Army  with 7.5" barrel known as the "Cavalry" model - .45 Long Colt]]
 
[[Image:ColtSAALongBarrel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Single Action Army  with 7.5" barrel known as the "Cavalry" model - .45 Long Colt]]
[[File:Apachen-SAA-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Morrie ([[Wilfried Zander]]) carries the SAA revolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-SAA-2.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Gleason ([[Hartmut Beer]]) shows his marksmanship. This revolver with brass frame and black cylinder and without its front sight is often seen in DEFA Western movies.]]
[[File:Apachen-SAA-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gleason ([[Hartmut Beer]]) shows his marksmanship.]]
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[[File:Apachen-SAACavalry-3.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A group of Johnson's henchmen. Several of them have SAA revolvers.]]
[[File:Apachen-SAA-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gleason's revolver on ground.]]
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[[File:Apachen-SAA-3.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Gleason's revolver on ground.]]
[[File:Apachen-SAA-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnson's revolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-SAA-6.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Johnson's revolver. Note the lack of the cover of loading gate. This gun is also seen in many DEFA Western movies.]]
[[File:Apachen-SAA-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gleason holds the revolver during the massacre of Apaches in Santa Rita.]]
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[[File:Apachen-SAACavalry-7.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A good view of the grip and cylinder of Gleason's revolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-SAACavalry-8.jpg|thumb|none|599px|]]
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[[File:Apachen-SAACavalry-9.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Ramon ([[Leon Niemczyk]]), the chief manager of copper mine, holds an SAA Cavalry revolver. In previous scene he had an Artillery model (see below).]]
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[[File:Apachen-SAA-9.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Gleason holds the revolver during the massacre of Apaches in Santa Rita.]]
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=== Artillery Model ===
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Ramon ([[Leon Niemczyk]]), the chief manager of copper mine, uses an SAA Artillery model revolver during his confrontation with Johnson. Later Ramon is seen with a Cavalry model revolver. An Artillery revolver is also seen in hands of Johnson's henchman ([[Dirk Jungnickel]]).
 
[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Single Action Army with 5.5" barrel known as the "Artillery" model. The most common of the SAA revolvers as it is just the right length. - .45 Long Colt]]
 
[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Single Action Army with 5.5" barrel known as the "Artillery" model. The most common of the SAA revolvers as it is just the right length. - .45 Long Colt]]
[[File:Apachen-SAA-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ramon draws his "Artillery" revolver during the confrontation with Johnson.]]
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[[File:Apachen-SAAArtillery-1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|An Artillery model revolver is seen in hand of Johnson's henchman ([[Dirk Jungnickel]]).]]
[[File:Apachen-SAA-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ramon tries to fire but finds out that the revolver is empty.]]
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[[File:Apachen-SAA-5.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Ramon draws his Artillery revolver during the confrontation with Johnson.]]
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[[File:Apachen-SAA-7.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Ramon tries to fire but finds out that the revolver is empty.]]
  
 
== Reichsrevolver M1879 ==
 
== Reichsrevolver M1879 ==
 
Out of place and out of time (but widely available for filming) [[Reichsrevolver M1879]] revolvers are used by Johnson's men and Mexicans. Johnson ([[Milan Bosiljcic]]) himself fires the Reichsrevolver in the final scene instead of previously seen [[Single Action Army]].
 
Out of place and out of time (but widely available for filming) [[Reichsrevolver M1879]] revolvers are used by Johnson's men and Mexicans. Johnson ([[Milan Bosiljcic]]) himself fires the Reichsrevolver in the final scene instead of previously seen [[Single Action Army]].
 
[[File:Reichsrevolver m1879 Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Reichsrevolver M1879 Revolver - 10.6x25R]]
 
[[File:Reichsrevolver m1879 Revolver.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Reichsrevolver M1879 Revolver - 10.6x25R]]
[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While most of Johnson's men carry SAA revolvers, one of them (second from the right) is armed with the Reichsrevolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Two of Johnson's men carry Reichsrevolvers.]]
[[File:Apachen-Musket-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Mexican at the left holds the Reichsrevolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-02.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Another view of a Reichsrevolver of a henchman.]]
[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnson fires the Reichsrevolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-03.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A henchman ([[Dirk Jungnickel]]) carries a Reichsrevolver in his belt when he unsuccessfully confronts old Apache Nana.]]
[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A gold prospector ([[Horst Kube]]) fires the Reichsrevolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-04A.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Morrie's ([[Wilfried Zander]]) revolver switches once again, this time into a Reichsrevolver.]]
[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A view from the muzzle.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-05.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A Mexican at the left holds the Reichsrevolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-06.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Johnson carries the Reichsrevolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-3.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Johnson fires the Reichsrevolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-5.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A gold digger ([[Horst Kube]]) fires the Reichsrevolver.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Reichsrevolver-6.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A view from the muzzle.]]
  
== Colt 1851 Navy ==
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== Smith & Wesson revolver ==
[[Colt 1851 Navy]] revolvers are used by some of Johnson's men and townsmen of Santa Rita. They are never seen firing.
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A revolver in hands of one more henchman appears to be a Smith & Wesson model, possibly a [[Smith & Wesson Victory Model]] that often appears in DEFA Western movies.
[[Image:1851Navy.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt 1851 Navy - .36 caliber.]]
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[[Image:S&W-Victory-Model.jpg|thumb|none|300px|For comparison: Smith & Wesson Victory Model - .38 S&W]]
[[File:Apachen-Colt Navy-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnson's henchman carries the Colt Navy revolver at his belt.]]
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[[File:Apachen-SW-1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|]]
[[File:Apachen-Colt Navy-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Colt Navy in the drawer of local shopkeeper (Gerry Wolff).]]
 
[[File:Apachen-Colt Navy-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A henchman, carrying the Colt Navy, is shot by Apache warrior.]]
 
[[File:Apachen-Colt Navy-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A man in center holds his Colt Navy.]]
 
  
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= Pistols =
 
== Flintlock Pistol ==
 
== Flintlock Pistol ==
Gold prospector Old Ronny ([[Hermann Eckhardt]]) is armed with the [[Flintlock Pistol]] of unknown model.
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Gold digger Old Ronny ([[Hermann Eckhardt]]) is armed with a [[Flintlock Pistol]] of unknown model.
 
[[File:British Heavy Dragoon pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|British Heavy Dragoon Pistol - .62 caliber. The screen gun has similar looking grip.]]
 
[[File:British Heavy Dragoon pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|British Heavy Dragoon Pistol - .62 caliber. The screen gun has similar looking grip.]]
[[File:Apachen-Pistol-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The grip of Ronny's pistol is seen at the right.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Pistol-1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The grip of Ronny's pistol is seen at the right.]]
[[File:Apachen-Pistol-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Old Ronny runs with his pistol.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Pistol-2.jpg|thumb|none|599px|]]
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[[File:Apachen-Pistol-03.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Old Ronny runs with his pistol.]]
  
 
= Shotguns =
 
= Shotguns =
 
== Percussion Shotgun ==
 
== Percussion Shotgun ==
In the scene in the road camp of Mexican refugees from Santa Rita, Theresa ([[Elsa Grube-Deister]]) uses her husband's [[Percussion Shotgun]].
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In the scene in the road camp of Mexican refugees from Santa Rita, Theresa ([[Elsa Grube-Deister]]) uses her husband's double barreled [[Percussion Shotgun]]. It fires on screen with correct effects of percussion cap gun.
 
[[Image:PercussionDBS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Double Barreled Percussion Shotgun - 10 Gauge]]
 
[[Image:PercussionDBS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Double Barreled Percussion Shotgun - 10 Gauge]]
[[File:Apachen-Percussion-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Theresa readies the shotgun...]]
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[[File:Apachen-Percussion-01.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Theresa takes small caps...]]
[[File:Apachen-Percussion-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...aims...]]
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[[File:Apachen-Percussion-2.jpg|thumb|none|599px|...readies the shotgun...]]
[[File:Apachen-Percussion-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...and fires.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Percussion-3.jpg|thumb|none|599px|...aims...]]
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[[File:Apachen-Percussion-4.jpg|thumb|none|599px|...and fires.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Percussion-05.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Another view of the gun.]]
  
 
= Rifles and Muskets =
 
= Rifles and Muskets =
 
== Spencer 1860 Carbine ==
 
== Spencer 1860 Carbine ==
In the final scene one of Johnson's henchmen, Doctor Klein ([[Fred Delmare]]), is armed with the [[Spencer 1860 Carbine]]. Ulzana ([[Gojko Mitic]]) manages to disarm him and uses the Spencer in the final shootout. In the showdown scene Johnson's ([[Milan Bosiljcic]]) ''Schuetzen'' rifle switches to the Spencer.
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One of Johnson's henchmen, Bob Tribolett ([[Fred Delmare]]), is armed with the [[Spencer 1860 Carbine]]. Ulzana ([[Gojko Mitic]]) manages to disarm him and uses the Spencer in the final shootout. In the showdown scene Johnson's ([[Milan Bosiljcic]]) ''Schuetzen'' rifle switches to the Spencer.
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''Note:'' see additional images on [[Talk:Apaches (Apachen)#Spencer 1860 Carbine|talk page]].
 
[[Image:Spencer 1860 Carbine.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Spencer Model 1860 Carbine - .56-56 Spencer rimfire]]
 
[[Image:Spencer 1860 Carbine.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Spencer Model 1860 Carbine - .56-56 Spencer rimfire]]
[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Spencer carbine leans against the wall.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-3.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Bob Tribolett's rifle is seen at the right.]]
[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Klein's rifle is seen at the right.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-4.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Bob Tribolett loads the tubular magazine of his Spencer.]]
[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Klein loads the tubular magazine of his Spencer.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-5.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Bob Tribolett holds his Spencer.]]
[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Klein holds his Spencer.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-6.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Ulzana examines the captured rifle.]]
[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ulzana examines the rifle.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-7.jpg|thumb|none|599px|An Apache warrior holds seven cartridges. They look similar enough to real .56-56 Spencer.]]
[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Apache warrior holds seven cartridges. They look similar enough to real .56-56 Spencer.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-8.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Ulzana reloads the rifle in action.]]
[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ulzana reloads the rifle in action.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-9.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Johnson grabs the Spencer. In previous moment he had a Martini ''Schuetzen'' rifle.]]
[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnson grabs the Spencer.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Spencer1860-12.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Johnson uses the gun in close combat.]]
  
 
== Martini Action ''Schuetzen'' Rifle ==
 
== Martini Action ''Schuetzen'' Rifle ==
Most Johnson's men and gold prospectors are armed with single shot [[Martini Schuetzen Rifle|Martini ''Schuetzen'' rifles]], popular German target and hunting guns.
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Most Johnson's men and gold diggers are armed with single shot [[Martini Schuetzen Rifle|Martini ''Schuetzen'' rifles]], popular German target and hunting guns.
 
[[File:Martini Action Schuetzen Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|German manufactured Martini Action ''Schuetzen'' Rifle]]
 
[[File:Martini Action Schuetzen Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|German manufactured Martini Action ''Schuetzen'' Rifle]]
 
[[File:Martini Stahl Schuetzen Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Martini-Stahl system ''Schuetzen'' Rifle - 8.15x46mm R]]
 
[[File:Martini Stahl Schuetzen Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Martini-Stahl system ''Schuetzen'' Rifle - 8.15x46mm R]]
[[File:Apachen-Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gleason ([[Hartmut Beer]]) aims.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Gleason ([[Hartmut Beer]]) aims.]]
[[File:Apachen-Rifle-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A henchman fires at Ulzana on rooftop.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-5.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A henchman fires at Ulzana on rooftop.]]
[[File:Apachen-Rifle-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Black Knife ([[Willi Schrade]]) reloads.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-9.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Nana ([[Colea Rautu]]) raises a captured rifle. This is a Martini-Stahl model, identified by the shape of the lever.]]
[[File:Apachen-Rifle-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He aims.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-10.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A gold digger fires at attacking Apaches.]]
[[File:Apachen-Rifle-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nana ([[Colea Rautu]]) raises a captured rifle. This is a Martini-Stahl model, identified by the shape of the lever.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-11.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Gold diggers hold their rifles.]]
[[File:Apachen-Rifle-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A gold prospector fires at attacking Apaches.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-15.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A gold digger fires.]]
[[File:Apachen-Rifle-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gold prospectors hold their rifles.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-Add14.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Johnson ([[Milan Bosiljcic]]) fires from the window.]]
[[File:Apachen-Rifle-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A gold prospector fires.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-17.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Johnson appears from the house. His rifle differs from the one that was seen when he fired from the window (both guns are Martini system but receivers look different).]]
[[File:Apachen-Rifle-17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnson ([[Milan Bosiljcic]]) fires the rifle.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-Add16.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Ulzana aims a ''Schuetzen'' rifle that switches to Spencer carbine in next moment.]]
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== Kessler ''Schuetzen'' Rifle ==
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Kessler ''Schuetzen'' rifles are also seen. Kessler system was an improved version of Martini.
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[[File:Kessler Martini Action Schuetzen Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|German Kessler ''Schuetzen'' rifle]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-Add1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A man at the left holds a Kessler rifle.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-Add2.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A henchman ([[Dirk Jungnickel]]) holds a Kessler rifle when he unsuccessfully confronts old Apache Nana.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-6.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Same henchman reloads his rifle.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-7.jpg|thumb|none|599px|He aims.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-Add11.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A bearded gold digger ([[Peter Heiland]]) in green vest holds a Kessler rifle.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Rifle-Add12.jpg|thumb|none|599px|He is shot by Ulzana and drops his rifle.]]
  
== Brown Bess Flintlock Musket ==
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== Percussion Cap Carbine ==
Flitlock muskets are used by Johnson's men, Mexican soldiers and townsmen of Santa Rita. Due to the lack of barrel bands, typical for other long guns of the same era, they can be identified as [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket]]s (probably modern replicas).
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A percussion cap carbine, most likely a hunting weapon, is seen in several scenes, notably used by Johnson ([[Milan Bosiljcic]]).
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[[File:Apachen-Carbine-1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Mexican Chico (Lucian Iancu) holds a percussion cap cabine at the right.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Carbine-2.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The barrel is seen.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Percussion-5.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Johnson fires at attacking Apaches.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Carbine-5.jpg|thumb|none|599px|]]
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[[File:Apachen-Percussion-6.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Another view of the gun.]]
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== Flintlock Musket ==
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Flitlock muskets are used by Johnson's men, Mexican soldiers and townsmen of Santa Rita. Due to the lack of barrel bands, typical for other long guns of the same era, they look similar to [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket]]s (probably modern replicas). When these guns fire, the hammers doesn't move.
 
[[Image:S262b.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Modern reproduction Brown Bess Carbine - .75 caliber]]
 
[[Image:S262b.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Modern reproduction Brown Bess Carbine - .75 caliber]]
[[File:Apachen-Musket-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Morrie ([[Wilfried Zander]]) fires the musket during the massacre of Apaches in Santa Rita.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Musket-01.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A Mexican soldier with a musket.]]
[[File:Apachen-Musket-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Mexican soldier holds the musket.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Musket-2.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Morrie ([[Wilfried Zander]]) fires the musket during the massacre of Apaches in Santa Rita.]]
[[File:Apachen-Musket-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mexican soldiers and armed civilians aim their muskets at approaching Apaches.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Musket-3.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A Mexican soldier holds the musket.]]
[[File:Apachen-Musket-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Mexican peasant at the left holds the musket.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Musket-4.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Mexican soldiers and armed civilians aim their muskets at approaching Apaches.]]
[[File:Apachen-Musket-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A gold prospector in center holds the musket.]]
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[[File:Apachen-LongGun-3.jpg|thumb|none|599px|]]
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[[File:Apachen-LongGun-4.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Juan ([[Victor Mavrodineanu]]) holds a musket.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Musket-5.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A Mexican peasant at the left holds the musket.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Musket-7.jpg|thumb|none|599px|A gold digger in center holds the musket.]]
  
== Kentucky Percussion Cap Rifle ==
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== Unidentified Long Guns ==
What appears to be a kind of [[Kentucky Flintlock Rifle]], but with percussion cap lock, is seen in gold prospectors cabin. Johnson ([[Milan Bosiljcic]]) fires it in one scene.
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A musket of unclear type is seen in hands of Juan ([[Victor Mavrodineanu]]). Later it is seen in gold diggers cabin together with another long gun.
[[Image:Kentucky percussion Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Traditions Kentucky Muzzleloading Rifle - 50 Caliber Percussion. The screen gun is not this exact model but looks similar.]]
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[[File:Apachen-LongGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The barrel with ramrod.]]
[[File:Apachen-Musket-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The supposed Kentucky rifle is seen on the gun rack (the one with shorter barrel, at the right).]]
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[[File:Apachen-LongGun-2.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The stock is seen.]]
[[File:Apachen-Percussion-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnson fires at attacking Apaches.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Musket-6.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Same long gun is seen on the gun rack, at the left.]]
[[File:Apachen-Percussion-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the gun.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Musket-8.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Another view of long gun.]]
  
== Unidentified Long Guns ==
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A pair of hunting muskets are seen in gold diggers cabin, one abovementioned and another one, also of unclear type.
An unknown long gun is seen in hands of Juan ([[Victor Mavrodineanu]]). It appear to be flintlock or percussion cap musket.
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[[File:Apachen-Musket-6.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The unidentified gun with shorter barrel, at the right.]]
[[File:Apachen-LongGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrel with ramrod.]]
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[[File:Apachen-LongGun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The stock is seen.]]
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A gold digger ([[Peter Heiland]]) is seen with a military style musket.
[[File:Apachen-LongGun-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
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[[File:Apachen-Musket-Add0.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The barrel of the musket is seen at the left.]]
[[File:Apachen-LongGun-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The lock can be seen but it's hard to say if it's flintlock or percussion.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Musket-Add2.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The barrel of the musket is seen in center.]]
A pair of long guns are seen in gold prospectors cabin. One of them seems to be a kind of flintlock musket with hunting-style stock.
 
[[File:Apachen-Musket-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The unidentified long gun is seen on the gun rack (the one with longer barrel, at the left).]]
 
[[File:Apachen-Musket-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the gun.]]
 
  
 
= Trivia =
 
= Trivia =
 
During the massacre of Apaches in Santa Rita Johnson's men use the Napoleonic-style smoothbore field cannon. Its size matches 12-pounder.
 
During the massacre of Apaches in Santa Rita Johnson's men use the Napoleonic-style smoothbore field cannon. Its size matches 12-pounder.
[[File:Apachen-Cannon-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Johnson's men unload the cannon from the wagon.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Cannon-1.jpg|thumb|none|599px|Johnson's men unload the cannon from the wagon.]]
[[File:Apachen-Cannon-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The cannon on position on Santa Rita street.]]
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[[File:Apachen-Cannon-2A.jpg|thumb|none|599px|]]
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[[File:Apachen-Cannon-2.jpg|thumb|none|599px|The cannon on position on Santa Rita street.]]
  
 
{{DEFA Studio Westerns}}
 
{{DEFA Studio Westerns}}

Revision as of 11:23, 25 June 2019


Apaches (Apachen)
Apachen Poster.jpg
Original German Poster
Country GDR.jpg East Germany
ROU-com.jpg Romania
SOV.jpg USSR
Directed by Gottfried Kolditz
Release Date 1973
Language German
Studio DEFA
Filmstudio Bucuresti
Mosfilm
Distributor DEFA
Main Cast
Character Actor
Ulzana Gojko Mitic
Johnson Milan Bosiljcic
Nana Colea Rautu
Ramon Leon Niemczyk
The shopkeeper Gerry Wolff
Gleason Hartmut Beer
Bob Tribolett Fred Delmare


Apaches (original title Apachen or Apachen. Blutige Rache) is a 1973 East German (Romanian and Soviet co-production) "Red Western" directed by Gottfried Kolditz and starring Gojko Mitic as Ulzana, the chief of Apaches. Next year the movie was followed by a sequel Ulzana.


The following weapons were used in the film Apaches (Apachen):


Revolvers

Colt 1851 Navy Percussion

One of Johnson's henchmen carries an authentic percussion Colt 1851 Navy revolver (cylinder has slots for percussion caps). A Colt 1851 Navy is also seen in the drawer of local shopkeeper (Gerry Wolff).

Colt 1851 Navy - .36 caliber
Johnson's henchman carries the Colt 1851 Navy revolver at his belt.
The Colt Navy in the drawer of local shopkeeper (Gerry Wolff).

Colt 1851 Navy Cartridge

Cartridge versions of Colt 1851 Navy revolvers are used by some of Johnson's men and townsmen of Santa Rita. These revolvers with brass frame and barrel and white cylinder are seen in many other DEFA Western movies. The lack of the pin that fixes the barrel with the frame on original Colt 1851 allows to guess that screen guns are versions, originally made for metallic cartridges (rather than converted from cap and ball model), likely of European production.

For comparison: Colt 1851 Navy with a cartridge conversion. This is a reproduction of the gun used by Eli Wallach in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly and imported by Cimmaron Arms.
Morrie (Wilfried Zander) carries a Colt 1851 Navy revolver.
Another view of Morrie's revolver.
Morrie draws his gun.
A henchman, carrying the Colt Navy, is shot by Apache warrior.
A local man holds a Colt Navy revolver.
Apachen-Colt1851NavyCartridge-6.jpg
A man in center holds his Colt Navy.

Single Action Army

Cavalry Model

Single Action Army Cavalry model revolvers are used by Johnson (Milan Bosiljcic) and most of his men. Strange enough, not a single character carries revolver in holster, preferring to tuck them into belts.

Note: see additional images on talk page.

Colt Single Action Army with 7.5" barrel known as the "Cavalry" model - .45 Long Colt
Gleason (Hartmut Beer) shows his marksmanship. This revolver with brass frame and black cylinder and without its front sight is often seen in DEFA Western movies.
A group of Johnson's henchmen. Several of them have SAA revolvers.
Gleason's revolver on ground.
Johnson's revolver. Note the lack of the cover of loading gate. This gun is also seen in many DEFA Western movies.
A good view of the grip and cylinder of Gleason's revolver.
Apachen-SAACavalry-8.jpg
Ramon (Leon Niemczyk), the chief manager of copper mine, holds an SAA Cavalry revolver. In previous scene he had an Artillery model (see below).
Gleason holds the revolver during the massacre of Apaches in Santa Rita.

Artillery Model

Ramon (Leon Niemczyk), the chief manager of copper mine, uses an SAA Artillery model revolver during his confrontation with Johnson. Later Ramon is seen with a Cavalry model revolver. An Artillery revolver is also seen in hands of Johnson's henchman (Dirk Jungnickel).

Colt Single Action Army with 5.5" barrel known as the "Artillery" model. The most common of the SAA revolvers as it is just the right length. - .45 Long Colt
An Artillery model revolver is seen in hand of Johnson's henchman (Dirk Jungnickel).
Ramon draws his Artillery revolver during the confrontation with Johnson.
Ramon tries to fire but finds out that the revolver is empty.

Reichsrevolver M1879

Out of place and out of time (but widely available for filming) Reichsrevolver M1879 revolvers are used by Johnson's men and Mexicans. Johnson (Milan Bosiljcic) himself fires the Reichsrevolver in the final scene instead of previously seen Single Action Army.

Reichsrevolver M1879 Revolver - 10.6x25R
Two of Johnson's men carry Reichsrevolvers.
Another view of a Reichsrevolver of a henchman.
A henchman (Dirk Jungnickel) carries a Reichsrevolver in his belt when he unsuccessfully confronts old Apache Nana.
Morrie's (Wilfried Zander) revolver switches once again, this time into a Reichsrevolver.
A Mexican at the left holds the Reichsrevolver.
Johnson carries the Reichsrevolver.
Johnson fires the Reichsrevolver.
A gold digger (Horst Kube) fires the Reichsrevolver.
A view from the muzzle.

Smith & Wesson revolver

A revolver in hands of one more henchman appears to be a Smith & Wesson model, possibly a Smith & Wesson Victory Model that often appears in DEFA Western movies.

For comparison: Smith & Wesson Victory Model - .38 S&W
Apachen-SW-1.jpg

Pistols

Flintlock Pistol

Gold digger Old Ronny (Hermann Eckhardt) is armed with a Flintlock Pistol of unknown model.

British Heavy Dragoon Pistol - .62 caliber. The screen gun has similar looking grip.
The grip of Ronny's pistol is seen at the right.
Apachen-Pistol-2.jpg
Old Ronny runs with his pistol.

Shotguns

Percussion Shotgun

In the scene in the road camp of Mexican refugees from Santa Rita, Theresa (Elsa Grube-Deister) uses her husband's double barreled Percussion Shotgun. It fires on screen with correct effects of percussion cap gun.

Double Barreled Percussion Shotgun - 10 Gauge
Theresa takes small caps...
...readies the shotgun...
...aims...
...and fires.
Another view of the gun.

Rifles and Muskets

Spencer 1860 Carbine

One of Johnson's henchmen, Bob Tribolett (Fred Delmare), is armed with the Spencer 1860 Carbine. Ulzana (Gojko Mitic) manages to disarm him and uses the Spencer in the final shootout. In the showdown scene Johnson's (Milan Bosiljcic) Schuetzen rifle switches to the Spencer.

Note: see additional images on talk page.

Spencer Model 1860 Carbine - .56-56 Spencer rimfire
Bob Tribolett's rifle is seen at the right.
Bob Tribolett loads the tubular magazine of his Spencer.
Bob Tribolett holds his Spencer.
Ulzana examines the captured rifle.
An Apache warrior holds seven cartridges. They look similar enough to real .56-56 Spencer.
Ulzana reloads the rifle in action.
Johnson grabs the Spencer. In previous moment he had a Martini Schuetzen rifle.
Johnson uses the gun in close combat.

Martini Action Schuetzen Rifle

Most Johnson's men and gold diggers are armed with single shot Martini Schuetzen rifles, popular German target and hunting guns.

German manufactured Martini Action Schuetzen Rifle
Martini-Stahl system Schuetzen Rifle - 8.15x46mm R
Gleason (Hartmut Beer) aims.
A henchman fires at Ulzana on rooftop.
Nana (Colea Rautu) raises a captured rifle. This is a Martini-Stahl model, identified by the shape of the lever.
A gold digger fires at attacking Apaches.
Gold diggers hold their rifles.
A gold digger fires.
Johnson (Milan Bosiljcic) fires from the window.
Johnson appears from the house. His rifle differs from the one that was seen when he fired from the window (both guns are Martini system but receivers look different).
Ulzana aims a Schuetzen rifle that switches to Spencer carbine in next moment.

Kessler Schuetzen Rifle

Kessler Schuetzen rifles are also seen. Kessler system was an improved version of Martini.

German Kessler Schuetzen rifle
A man at the left holds a Kessler rifle.
A henchman (Dirk Jungnickel) holds a Kessler rifle when he unsuccessfully confronts old Apache Nana.
Same henchman reloads his rifle.
He aims.
A bearded gold digger (Peter Heiland) in green vest holds a Kessler rifle.
He is shot by Ulzana and drops his rifle.

Percussion Cap Carbine

A percussion cap carbine, most likely a hunting weapon, is seen in several scenes, notably used by Johnson (Milan Bosiljcic).

Mexican Chico (Lucian Iancu) holds a percussion cap cabine at the right.
The barrel is seen.
Johnson fires at attacking Apaches.
Apachen-Carbine-5.jpg
Another view of the gun.

Flintlock Musket

Flitlock muskets are used by Johnson's men, Mexican soldiers and townsmen of Santa Rita. Due to the lack of barrel bands, typical for other long guns of the same era, they look similar to Brown Bess Flintlock Muskets (probably modern replicas). When these guns fire, the hammers doesn't move.

File:S262b.jpg
Modern reproduction Brown Bess Carbine - .75 caliber
A Mexican soldier with a musket.
Morrie (Wilfried Zander) fires the musket during the massacre of Apaches in Santa Rita.
A Mexican soldier holds the musket.
Mexican soldiers and armed civilians aim their muskets at approaching Apaches.
Apachen-LongGun-3.jpg
Juan (Victor Mavrodineanu) holds a musket.
A Mexican peasant at the left holds the musket.
A gold digger in center holds the musket.

Unidentified Long Guns

A musket of unclear type is seen in hands of Juan (Victor Mavrodineanu). Later it is seen in gold diggers cabin together with another long gun.

The barrel with ramrod.
The stock is seen.
Same long gun is seen on the gun rack, at the left.
Another view of long gun.

A pair of hunting muskets are seen in gold diggers cabin, one abovementioned and another one, also of unclear type.

The unidentified gun with shorter barrel, at the right.

A gold digger (Peter Heiland) is seen with a military style musket.

The barrel of the musket is seen at the left.
The barrel of the musket is seen in center.

Trivia

During the massacre of Apaches in Santa Rita Johnson's men use the Napoleonic-style smoothbore field cannon. Its size matches 12-pounder.

Johnson's men unload the cannon from the wagon.
Apachen-Cannon-2A.jpg
The cannon on position on Santa Rita street.

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