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::::It seems, that this custom rifle (probably based STG-44), as it has a cylindrical foregrip and strange magazine. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 19:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC+2)
 
::::It seems, that this custom rifle (probably based STG-44), as it has a cylindrical foregrip and strange magazine. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 19:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC+2)
 
::::: I agree about the snub revolver not being a Colt, and the unknown gun being StG based. As for the 'M16A2', are we certain of that ID? The caps make it hard to tell, but the rifles in the caps seem to have the triangular A1 handguards in some shots and lack the A2 sights. That said, M16A2's were JUST coming into service in the US and they almost certainly would not have been available in Russia at that time - They might be mockups of various components of ARs to resemble A2s but it's almost a given these cannot be actual M16A2s or any direct equivalents. Also, are we certain of the XM16E1 ID? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 13:59, 21 October 2015 (EDT)
 
::::: I agree about the snub revolver not being a Colt, and the unknown gun being StG based. As for the 'M16A2', are we certain of that ID? The caps make it hard to tell, but the rifles in the caps seem to have the triangular A1 handguards in some shots and lack the A2 sights. That said, M16A2's were JUST coming into service in the US and they almost certainly would not have been available in Russia at that time - They might be mockups of various components of ARs to resemble A2s but it's almost a given these cannot be actual M16A2s or any direct equivalents. Also, are we certain of the XM16E1 ID? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 13:59, 21 October 2015 (EDT)
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::::::Scenes with the US guns were filmed in the US. Scenes with USSR guns were filmed in the USSR. This also applies to the film as a whole - some of the scenes were filmed in the USA; others -  filmed in the USSR (Minsk and Tallinn). --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 20:15, 21 October 2015 (UTC+2)

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The unknown pistol appears to be some sort of pneumatic dart or pellet gun. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:24, 21 October 2015 (EDT)

The unknown assault rifle looks similar to StG 44. The snub nose revolver seems to have a different shape than Colt DS, and I think that it's some blank firing/gas firing/rubber firing revolver. I cannot guess the exact model. Greg-Z (talk) 12:41, 21 October 2015 (EDT)
Mocked up as a Heckler & Koch G3? This is a different model, not "STG 44 - M16". --Slon95 (talk) 19:02, 21 October 2015 (UTC+2)
It's not a "Mosfilm-16", of course. The buttstock looks similar to StG 44, that's why I added this guess. Can it be standard, unmodified StG? A genuine G3 is also possible though from my point of view the screen gun looks still different. Maybe I'm wrong. Greg-Z (talk) 13:08, 21 October 2015 (EDT)
It seems, that this custom rifle (probably based STG-44), as it has a cylindrical foregrip and strange magazine. --Slon95 (talk) 19:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC+2)
I agree about the snub revolver not being a Colt, and the unknown gun being StG based. As for the 'M16A2', are we certain of that ID? The caps make it hard to tell, but the rifles in the caps seem to have the triangular A1 handguards in some shots and lack the A2 sights. That said, M16A2's were JUST coming into service in the US and they almost certainly would not have been available in Russia at that time - They might be mockups of various components of ARs to resemble A2s but it's almost a given these cannot be actual M16A2s or any direct equivalents. Also, are we certain of the XM16E1 ID? StanTheMan (talk) 13:59, 21 October 2015 (EDT)
Scenes with the US guns were filmed in the US. Scenes with USSR guns were filmed in the USSR. This also applies to the film as a whole - some of the scenes were filmed in the USA; others - filmed in the USSR (Minsk and Tallinn). --Slon95 (talk) 20:15, 21 October 2015 (UTC+2)

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