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== Some more guns in movie == | == Some more guns in movie == | ||
There are also [http://zanuda-32.narod.ru/DUB1/GRANAT/gran18.jpg AK] and supposedly an M1919, top-mounted on a [http://zanuda-32.narod.ru/DUB1/GRANAT/gran23.jpg Staghound armoured car]. BTW, the appearance of Staghound makes me think that the movie was filmed on Cuba (at least partially), and this also explains the FALs and Grease Guns that aren't common in Soviet movies. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 13:12, 29 February 2016 (EST) | There are also [http://zanuda-32.narod.ru/DUB1/GRANAT/gran18.jpg AK] and supposedly an M1919, top-mounted on a [http://zanuda-32.narod.ru/DUB1/GRANAT/gran23.jpg Staghound armoured car]. BTW, the appearance of Staghound makes me think that the movie was filmed on Cuba (at least partially), and this also explains the FALs and Grease Guns that aren't common in Soviet movies. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 13:12, 29 February 2016 (EST) | ||
| + | :This is not a Cuban FN FAL. This is some kind of L1A1 variant, maybe even Canadian. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 08:38, 28 July 2019 (EDT) | ||
== AK74 section == | == AK74 section == | ||
This is not in fact "beyond any logic" - as of early 1980s is was as much nigh-impossible to obtain a working M16/M16A1 rifle for a film studio in USSR as it was nigh-impossible for a film studio in USA to obtain a working authentic AK74/AKS74 rifle. But while "fake AK74 rifles" were made by simply screwing a custom-made muzzle-brake onto a Type 56 rifle, making a "fake M16" was a much more complicated task. Henceforth "second line" ("second line" refering to them not appearig in close by to a cameraman and thus not seen in great detail by the viewers) episodic characters were (and sometimes are even now) more easily obtainable weapons (for example, in WW2 movie "first line" actors, portraing nazi soldiers could brandish real Mauser Kar.98k rifles, while "second line" actors for the same role would carry M91/30 Mosin rifles (in USSR and Russia) or M1903 Springfield rifles (in USA).<br> | This is not in fact "beyond any logic" - as of early 1980s is was as much nigh-impossible to obtain a working M16/M16A1 rifle for a film studio in USSR as it was nigh-impossible for a film studio in USA to obtain a working authentic AK74/AKS74 rifle. But while "fake AK74 rifles" were made by simply screwing a custom-made muzzle-brake onto a Type 56 rifle, making a "fake M16" was a much more complicated task. Henceforth "second line" ("second line" refering to them not appearig in close by to a cameraman and thus not seen in great detail by the viewers) episodic characters were (and sometimes are even now) more easily obtainable weapons (for example, in WW2 movie "first line" actors, portraing nazi soldiers could brandish real Mauser Kar.98k rifles, while "second line" actors for the same role would carry M91/30 Mosin rifles (in USSR and Russia) or M1903 Springfield rifles (in USA).<br> | ||
| − | It could by also rationalized since some US Army's soldiers in the movie apparently | + | It could by also rationalized since some US Army's soldiers in the movie apparently carry non-conventional firearms (FN FALs) the AK featured could stand in (in somewhat "ironic reversal") for a similarily non-conventional (for US Armed Forces, that is) Type 56 rifle.--[[User:RussianTrooper|RussianTrooper]] ([[User talk:RussianTrooper|talk]]) 06:13, 26 July 2018 (EDT) |
Latest revision as of 12:38, 28 July 2019
Some more guns in movie
There are also AK and supposedly an M1919, top-mounted on a Staghound armoured car. BTW, the appearance of Staghound makes me think that the movie was filmed on Cuba (at least partially), and this also explains the FALs and Grease Guns that aren't common in Soviet movies. Greg-Z (talk) 13:12, 29 February 2016 (EST)
- This is not a Cuban FN FAL. This is some kind of L1A1 variant, maybe even Canadian. --Slon95 (talk) 08:38, 28 July 2019 (EDT)
AK74 section
This is not in fact "beyond any logic" - as of early 1980s is was as much nigh-impossible to obtain a working M16/M16A1 rifle for a film studio in USSR as it was nigh-impossible for a film studio in USA to obtain a working authentic AK74/AKS74 rifle. But while "fake AK74 rifles" were made by simply screwing a custom-made muzzle-brake onto a Type 56 rifle, making a "fake M16" was a much more complicated task. Henceforth "second line" ("second line" refering to them not appearig in close by to a cameraman and thus not seen in great detail by the viewers) episodic characters were (and sometimes are even now) more easily obtainable weapons (for example, in WW2 movie "first line" actors, portraing nazi soldiers could brandish real Mauser Kar.98k rifles, while "second line" actors for the same role would carry M91/30 Mosin rifles (in USSR and Russia) or M1903 Springfield rifles (in USA).
It could by also rationalized since some US Army's soldiers in the movie apparently carry non-conventional firearms (FN FALs) the AK featured could stand in (in somewhat "ironic reversal") for a similarily non-conventional (for US Armed Forces, that is) Type 56 rifle.--RussianTrooper (talk) 06:13, 26 July 2018 (EDT)