Talk:Raven Arms MP-25

Make a combined manufacturer page?

While Raven Arms on its own doesn't have enough to justify a manufacturer's page, I feel the whole mess of succession, spin-offs, and rebrands of companies has produced enough guns with articles the lineage could easily support one. Going by this video, Raven Arms led to Phoenix Arms, Jennings (which would lead to Bryco, Lorcin, Standard Arms, Talon Industries, and Jimenez Arms), Davis Industries (which led to Sedco, Republic Arms, and Cobra Industries), and Sundance Industries, all making very similar products. Problem: What should this article be called? Would it be appropriate to include all these companies under a single Raven Arms page? The alternative title I can think of is using "Ring of Fire" as the page name, but that includes at least one company that's not really related to Raven Arms and I'm loathe to enable the rhetoric of that quack Wintemute. --VladVladson (talk) 16:05, 19 May 2021 (EDT)

I think it'd be best to just not bother. The pistols are very similar to each other, true, but trying to loop together all the companies would just make things complicated and confusing. If you want to unify things, you could merge all these similar pistols together under one page, with the original one being the header (similar to what we do with other large families of similar guns - the AK or 1911 series, for example). So, if the MP-25 is the original, then the page would be titled "Raven Arms MP-25", and there would be subsections for all the derivatives, with explanations for each one (and probably a starting explanation of the whole deal with these things). Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 16:14, 19 May 2021 (EDT)