Talk:Elysium

The second gun looks like CGI, which it probably is, the third just looks like a prop, looks a bit like scar, but the magazine seems a bit far and I see no reason why they would put a gun underneath the shell if the magazine is not there, besides it doesn't shoot bullets so no point in a working gun.

The last gun in the unknown 1 section looks a bit like a TDI Vector, but I could just be imagining angles. I would assume the Chemrail is a prop built for the movie and doesn't really function, but then again stranger things have happened (the shockingly functional Zorg Pod weapon from the Fifth Element). -Jerkyman45

Is the ChemRail a DSR50 or based off of it? It kinda looks like there's a spare magazine in the frame of the stock. --DeltaOne (talk) 07:31, 16 July 2013 (EDT)

I think Unknown for is this:http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/19/knights-armament-chain-saw/

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/2009shotshow-day3-2009shotshow-01172009-001.jpgMandolin (talk) 00:34, 1 August 2013 (EDT)

I don't think it is exactly, but it's definitely based off of it. You get a nice shot of it during the film, the fire control unit looks to be much bulkier than the KAC ChainSAW, so it's likely a custom conversion done by the film armorers. I do think the weapon is a M249 or Minimi SAW, but would need to see the film or that scene again to make sure. --Blitzen (talk) 22:13, 11 August 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, the gun isn't a Minimi variant. Can't figure out what it is though, it's got the M249 belt box. The rebel with Frey and Matilda at the end has a well-worn R4, and there's what look to be Colt M933s or Mk.18s with suppressors in Spyder's command center. --Mandolin (talk) 11:16, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

Second thought, I think it is. I'm marking it as so on the main page until the DVD/Blu-ray comes out to show otherwise.--Mandolin (talk) 11:39, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

Towards the end of the film, one of Spider's men is carrying a QBZ carbine (that distinctive flash hider can be seen). I couldn't see whether it was a 95 or 97, but 97 I think is more likely. I believe he's the one that gets killed by that explosive throwing star.Korium9 (talk)

Yeah, probably a 97. "It's only a flesh wound" BOOM --Mandolin (talk) 11:16, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

I haven't seen this film, YET, but I was just wondering; does Agent Kruger use a firearm of any kind in this film, or does he go by his ninja sword and exploding ninja stars? --Warejaws (talk) 11:35, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

Well he uses the quad missile launcher, but i don't remember any others off the top off my head. Said missile launcher's rounds are going 518m/s, BTW. Oh, and he uses a shield that takes the equivalent of two dozen M203 rounds before failing. He also BBQs with his katana.--Mandolin (talk) 12:41, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

The unknown 4 is a SAW variant I think its specifically modified from this http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz92/shaunr_2009/WTF.jpg --Iceman (talk) 12:33, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, I called it 10 days ago. Good eye though.--Mandolin (talk) 12:41, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

File:KAC ChianSAW.jpg

Uploaded two years ago.

--Funkychinaman (talk) 12:51, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

Moved from main page

I don't think this was in the movie, so I'm putting it here.

Unknown Machine gun

Matt Damon holding a prop behind the scenes.

Interesting enough, somewhat similar muzzle design has already appeared in Aaron Back's earlier pieces. Side mounted trigger group heavily reminds me of PAW-20 which was probably influential during design of this weapon. --BeloglaviSup (talk) 15:01, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

My guess it's the manportable version of the Asgari Chemrail gun before they decided to make it more rifle-like, as seen in the finished product. The muzzle matches both the Raven-mounted side gun version and the later rifle version. --Blitzen (talk) 20:14, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

Actually, now looking over the side gun in the article, it's the same gun. The finish is darker gunmetal and not blaze safety yellow of the side gun, the green battery back or ammo cassette is clearly visible, and the butterfly grips almost match the same position and look of the side grip. I still say it's probably going to be usedfor the armory gunfight, but they made something a bit more handy out of the Chemrail rifle. --Blitzen (talk) 20:23, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

aZMD AKM

The Russian on the side of the airburst modules seems to be fairly functional. My guess is that it's called the aZMD (or, really аМЗД), based off the Cyrillic on the side of the sight. The module hooked to the magazine released reads "задать ДИСТ" or "Specify remote". I'm not sure what the button nearest the magazine says, but I'm guess it's "рожим" or rozhim, but I really think it's "размах" or range, which would fit if it's for an airburst unit. --Blitzen (talk) 20:57, 12 August 2013 (EDT)

As a native Cyrillic reader my self I'm more inclined to say that it is вМЗД. It's probably supposed to be an acronym for the name of the top mounted air-burst computer module. As much as "размах" makes sense, it looks much more like "режим" (mode or regime) to me. Word "рожим" isn't familiar to me, so I'm opting that it's probably not it. "Задать дист." certainly stands for "задать дистанция" or 'set distance'. I can also make out inscription on the computer module over the gas block. It reads "Автомат Калашникова" but it's followed up by something indecipherable from the current screenshots. Hope this helps somewhat and hope we get better pictures of that prop soon. --BeloglaviSup (talk) 05:40, 13 August 2013 (EDT)