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[[Image:Vlcsnap-68359.jpg|thumb|800px|none|Kaminsky checks the load in his Dan Wesson revolver]]
 
[[Image:Vlcsnap-68359.jpg|thumb|800px|none|Kaminsky checks the load in his Dan Wesson revolver]]
 
[[Image:Vlcsnap-74126.jpg|thumb|800px|none|Raising his Dan Wesson revolver with one hand, Kaminsky prepares to finish off the truck driver.]]
 
[[Image:Vlcsnap-74126.jpg|thumb|800px|none|Raising his Dan Wesson revolver with one hand, Kaminsky prepares to finish off the truck driver.]]
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==Smith & Wesson Model 27/28==
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It's possible this model makes two appearances in the movie. The first time is at the beginning when the Federally Protected witness is murdered along with the Federal Agents. One of the agents appears to be firing a 27/28 w/4" barrel( ineffectively )before being gunned down. There is another scene when Kaminsky takes a car from gangsters then launches the car into an illegale casino. It appears that Kaminsky pulls a Model 27/28 from his suit coat. In both shots the revolver looks like the large N frame with the tapered barrel that is a characteristic of the .357 magnum N frame.
  
 
==Cellini-Dunn SM-9???==
 
==Cellini-Dunn SM-9???==

Revision as of 18:11, 10 December 2008

Raw Deal (1986)

The following weapons appear in the movie Raw Deal:


Heckler & Koch HK94

In the climax of the film, Mark Kaminsky (Arnold Schwarzenegger) goes to his hotel room and unpacks an arsenal of weapons hidden in a storage bag for his suit. One of the weapons is a Heckler & Koch HK94 semi-automatic carbine, the civilian version of the famous MP5. His gun is the A3 model, which has a collapsible stock, as well as a ventilated barrel shroud, and a vertical fore grip mounted just to the front and slightly below the main sight. When he carries out his assault at the mine and later on Patrovita's hideout, the weapon is fired on full-auto, suggesting that it was converted by a Class III manufacturer to a legal full auto gun for the film. One detail that also reveals the conversion of a Semi auto carbine into a full auto gun is the lack of a paddle release for the magazine (which was standard on all original MP5s). It takes some fitting and the acquisition of a replacement H&K paddle, and many armorers just didn't bother.

Schwarzenegger is also seen brandishing this same weapon (or perhaps another, identical weapon) on the poster for the movie, seen above, albeit with no magazine loaded in the gun. A notable goof is that the weapon has the "slimline"-type forearm when Kaminsky is seen loading it in his hotel room, but for the rest of the film, it has the "tropical" or "wide"-type forearm.

H&K HK94 A3 9mm
Kaminsky slaps a magazine into his HK94.
Kaminsky driving through the mine, popping bad guys with his HK94 on full-auto!
He doesn't seem to have a problem firing the HK94 with only one hand, as demonstrated here.

Dan Wesson Revolver

One of the other weapons which Kaminsky has in his suit storage bag is a Dan Wesson revolver. Most notably, he uses the weapon to kill the driver of a huge off-road dump truck who is trying to run him down while he's holed up in a trailer.

Which model is this? Is it the Model 15? I don't know Dan Wesson revolvers very well.

It's the Model 15 since it has adjustable sights. If it had fixed or service sights it would be the Model 14.

Dan Wesson revolver
Kaminsky checks the load in his Dan Wesson revolver
Raising his Dan Wesson revolver with one hand, Kaminsky prepares to finish off the truck driver.

Smith & Wesson Model 27/28

It's possible this model makes two appearances in the movie. The first time is at the beginning when the Federally Protected witness is murdered along with the Federal Agents. One of the agents appears to be firing a 27/28 w/4" barrel( ineffectively )before being gunned down. There is another scene when Kaminsky takes a car from gangsters then launches the car into an illegale casino. It appears that Kaminsky pulls a Model 27/28 from his suit coat. In both shots the revolver looks like the large N frame with the tapered barrel that is a characteristic of the .357 magnum N frame.

Cellini-Dunn SM-9???

Another of the weapons in Kaminsky's arsenal is a very compact machine pistol that has an extremely high rate of fire. This gun appears to be a Cellini-Dunn SM-9, but it obviously lacks the forward grip in front. Could it be something else? Feel free to edit this entry if so.

As done loads of times, It may be a 'modified' one for the movie to look like a different weapon. The Armourer may have thought a front grip on such a small SMG is pointless and the SM-9 would be ideal as a clandestine PDW. The muzzle my have been installed not much for vanity but to reduce barrel climb so it can be handled without the front grip. It reminds me very much of the British MCEM 1 machine carbine.

Cellini Dunn SM-9 9mm
Kaminsky loads up his little machine pistol, which may or may not be a Cellini-Dunn SM-9.
An extreme close-up of the machine pistol as he puts it back in the bag.
Kaminsky grabs the machine pistol before using it to shoot out the windshield of his car.

Mossberg 500 shotgun

The last weapon in Kaminsky's weapons cache is a Mossberg 500 shotgun fitted with a short barrel and a pistol grip . This is the gun he uses to finish off Patrovita.

Kaminsky works the action on his shotgun.
Cocked and ready for action!

M16

Among the weapons used throughout the film by the mobsters are very early M16 assault rifles - so early that they lack the forward assist and have the old-style three-pronged flash hiders.

The original M16, the first version adopted in large numbers by the U.S. Army in Vietnam. It would later be replaced by the upgraded M16A1 - 5.56mm
One of the thugs at the mine brandishing an M16.
The same thug firing his M16 at Kaminsky's car. Despite the fact that his rifle has superior range and accuracy to any of Kaminsky's weapons, he is still taken down by a burst from the HK94 (fired, of course, one-handed!)


(Fake) XM177

The mobsters are also frequently seen using some type of CAR-15 variation that appears to resemble an XM177, but it's actually a converted AR15 SP1 carbine made to look like an XM177. These are the same guns seen in The Dogs of War (Special Effects Unlimited, the company which supplied weapons for that film, were also the armorers on this film).

Late 1970s model AR15 Sporter 1 Carbine - converted into an XM177 Lookalike for the film "Dogs of War" - 5.56mm
One of the mine thugs firing at Kaminsky's car with a CAR-15-type gun.

(Fake) Uzi

The mobsters are also seen wielding submachine guns that might appear at first to be Uzis (some with fixed wooden buttstocks, others with folding stocks). However, a close-inspection of the receivers reveals that they are actually MAC-10s that have been visually modified to look like Uzis, fitted with Uzi barrels, front and rear sights, forward grips, and stocks. These exact same prop weapons also appear in several other Hollywood movies, including The Dogs of War and Stripes.

A mobster opening fire with a MAC-10 made to look like an Uzi.
An extreme close-up of the same mobster's "Uzi".


M14 Rifle

Another mobster is seen sniping with a semi-automatic rifle fitted with a suppressor and scope. This is either a military M14, or (more likely) an M1A, the semi-automatic civilian version of the M14 (manufactured by several manufacturers over the years, but the term M1A is copyrighted to Springfield Armory. Other makers of the Semiauto M14 rifle are Federal Ordnance, Fulton Armory, Rock Island Armory and Norinco/Poly Technologies of China.)

M14 rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO
A mobster sniping with a scoped and suppressed M14 (or M1A).

Various unknown revolvers

All of the handguns which appear in Raw Deal are revolvers, and I'm sorry to say that I don't know a whole lot about revolvers (if you're my age, they're just inherently less interesting than the high-capacity semi-autos that have been featured in action movies since the late-80s). So, here are lots of screenshots showing off the various wheel guns seen in the movie. Feel free to identify them and sort them out.

I remember reading an article in "Combat handguns", written by Jerry Ahern, when the movie was first released, where he mentioned that a Charter Arms Bulldog was used in the movie, but I am not able to identify it in these pics.

I think the Charter Arms Bulldog might be Patrovita's gun, seen in the 5th and 6th screenshots.
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More S&W M29s?
Appears to be either the S&W Model 64(38 special) or Model 65(.357magnum)
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Colt Anaconda? It's a Colt Python, Anaconda's were not around when the movie came out. It's probably a Dan Wesson. The Python's bottom lug is rounded and this one is squared which is a characteristic of Dan Wesson revolvers.
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