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| − | [[Image:HT-TC-8.jpg|500px|thumb|none|He puts a cartridge back into his belt after Chance and Natasha escape. This shot leads me to think they're .45-70s, but if anyone can use this image to tell me otherwise, please do.]] | + | [[Image:HT-TC-8.jpg|500px|thumb|none|He puts a cartridge back into his belt after Chance and Natasha escape. This shot leads me to think they're .45-70s, but if anyone can use this image to tell me otherwise, please do. " Definteley .45-70, good call and extreme exageration of power in the movie."- Tyler Durden]] |
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Revision as of 21:31, 7 May 2009
The following guns were used in the film Hard Target:
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Thompson Center Arms Contender
Emil Fouchon (Lance Henriksen) prominently uses a Thompson Center Arms Contender single-shot pistol as his weapon of choice throughout the movie. I think he may be using .45-70 cartridges n the gun, but I'm not sure, so I have included pictures of the gun's cartridges in his belt to see if anyone else can figure it out. Whatever round he uses seems to be pretty powerful, as the gun is routinely shown blowing things up whenever it's fired, surely an exaggeration of the Contender's power in real life.
This gun was previously used by Philip Kwok as Mad Dog in John Woo's earlier movie Hard Boiled. This gun was not previously used by Mad Dog, if you watched both movies, you will notice that Fouchon's has a much longer barrel and no sights. In Hard Boiled, you can clearly see bottlenecked rifle cartridges being loaded, while Fouchon's cartriges aren't.
- I just meant it was the same make and model, if not same caliber and same variation. They're both Thompson Center Arms Contenders.
- I agree the bullets look like 45-70s'
- same here they are .45-70s : [email protected]
- Note the firing pin "type" lever on the back of the hammer is set vertically - indicating that no firing pin selection (center-fire or rimfire) has been made. The depicted weapon won't fire!
Beretta 92FS
No John Woo movie would be complete without the presence of Beretta 92FS pistols, and Hard Target features this gun heavily. Aside from the fact that nearly all of Emil Fouchon's gunmen carry 92Fs as their sidearms, this gun is also used often by Chance Boardeaux (Jean Claude Van Damme) throughout the film. Chance first uses a 92F after taking one off Detective Marie Mitchell (Kasi Lemmons) when she gets killed by Fouchon's men during the first big shootout. Chance later uses a pair of 92Fs (one blued, one Inox) during the final shootout in the Mardi Gras Graveyard in the climax, often fitted with 20-round magazines.
There are a number of crazy ways that Chance fires his 92Fs in the movie - leaping through the air onto the trunk of a car, standing up on the seat of a motorcycle, swinging across the warehouse on a rope, etc. In one particularly crazy scene during the Mardi Gras Graveyard shootout, he gets a 92F with a 20-round magazine away from a motorcycle gunman, but doesn't have time to grip it properly because there's another gunman coming from behind him. So he simply fires the gun upside down.
Beretta 92FS Inox
During the shootout in the Mardi Gras Graveyard, Natasha (Yancy Butler) takes a Beretta 92FS Inox from one of Fouchon's men and uses it to kill another thug who calls her a "bitch" (this is an homage to a similar scene in John Woo's earlier film Hard Boiled). She then tosses the gun to Chance, who uses it it akimbo with a regular blued 92F (and usually with a 20-round magazine inserted).
The Arrow Launcher
During the first hunt in the opening scene, where Natasha's father Douglas Binder (Chuck Pfarrer) is killed by one of Fouchon's clients, the hunter uses an unusual arrow-launching rifle to kill him. This same weapon is later used against Chance by another hunter during the climax, when he narrowly avoids being hit by an arrow fired from this weapon. The arrow rifle does not appear to be a real weapon, and was most likely custom-built specially for the movie. In some scenes, it's possible to see that it has a collapsible stock taken from an M16 carbine-type rifle.
The arrow-rifle is actually a existing high-powered airgun and produced by Swivel Machine Works Inc. in various versions since 1989. The gun in the movie seems to be a Airrow A-8S Stealth.
Colt Model 725 (?)
During the second hunt, in which Ismal Zenan (Joe Warfield) pays Fouchon to kill Elijah Roper (Willie C. Carpenter), Zenan is given a Colt CAR-15-type assault rifle which clearly has an A2-style receiver, so it is most likely a Model 725. The gun is heavily tricked out, with a scope, suppressor, brass catcher, and laser sight (I'm not sure what brands any of them are). Roper manages to get the drop on Zenan, knocking him out and taking his rifle. He fires the weapon at Zenan and then at Fouchon and his men, but foolishly fires on full-auto for too long, emptying the magazine and thus spending his entire potential advantage.
A similar gun is later used in a drive-by shooting by one of Fouchon's thugs, though his has only the suppressor (no scope, laser sight, or brass catcher).
Mossberg 590/Mariner
Chance's shotgun which he retrieves from his Uncle's house is a 12-gauge Mossberg 590 Mariner, which he uses when being chased by Fouchon's men on horseback. He is frequently seen cocking this shotgun one-handed.
- One thing worth noting from the scene where Chance's Uncle gives him the shotgun is before receiving the shotgun he asked for a rifle he had given to his uncle. To which his uncle reply's that he doesn't have it anymore, as a "gator ate it"
Pik van Cleef (Arnold Vosloo), Fouchon's right-hand man, also uses a regular black Mossberg 590 as his weapon of choice for much of the movie. His 590 has a flashlight pump installed, but there is no flashlight in the grip.
Glock 19
Van Cleef carries a Glock 19 as his sidearm throughout the movie. It is seen mostly at the end, when he and Chance confront each other face-to-face.
Heckler & Koch MP5A3/A5
Most of Fouchon's men carry Heckler & Koch MP5A3 submachine guns, particularly his motorcycle gunmen, who carry their MP5s in large holsters mounted on the sides of their Honda XL600Rs.
When Chance steals one of the motorcycles, he takes an MP5 out of the holster and uses it to shoot at another motorcycle gunman. The MP5 used by Chance in this scene clearly has a 4-position trigger group on its lower receiver, which would make it an MP5A5 rather than an MP5A3. In fact, he seems to be firing the gun on the 3-round burst setting, something only possible with the 4-position trigger group.
Heckler & Koch MP5K
Some of Fouchon's gunmen also use Heckler & Koch MP5Ks fitted with suppressors during the hunts. Van Cleef is seen using one of these weapons when he and the other gunmen kill Roper.
Colt XM177E2
Fouchon's men use some Colt XM177E2 carbines, including several with M203 grenade launchers. Van Cleef uses a heavily tricked-out XM177E2 fitted with an M203, brass catcher, and a large scope when shooting at Chance from a helicopter.
M203 grenade launcher
M203 grenade launchers are mounted on several Colt XM177E2 carbines used by Fouchon's men, including a rifle used by Van Cleef to shoot at Chance. A notable goof is that he fires the M203 twice in a row, without enough time to reload the single-shot launcher.
FN FAL 50.61
An FN FAL 50.61 Paratrooper version with a side-folding stock is used by at least one of Fouchon's men who fires at Chance from the helicopter. He is hit by Chance's Mossberg 590 Mariner, dropping the weapon (presumably, into the river).
Valmet M78
One of the hunters whom Fouchon brings in for the climax is seen using a .308 (7.62x51mm NATO) version of the Finnish Valmet M78 semi-automatic rifle that appears to have been converted to auto for the film. The Valmet is outfitted with a scope and a thumbhole stock, but despite this sniper-type configuration, he only seems to fire the gun on full-auto from the hip.
SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper
An SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper is used by one of Fouchon's gunmen and a hunter at the climax of the movie, fitted with a laser sight. When it's fired, it blows up an entire shed, so it's being portrayed as some type of grenade launcher.
Norinco Type 56-1
One of the hunters brought in by Fouchon in the climax carries a Norinco Type 56-1 assault rifle, the Chinese copy of the AKS-47/AKMS. This hunter is killed by a rattlesnake hidden by Chance in a tree when the snake bites him. After he is killed, Van Cleef takes the Norinco and hands it to one of the other hunters, who uses it in the finale. Like most of the Type 56s imported into America, this one has an AKM-style slant compensator.
Unknown suppressed pistol
An unknown type of suppressed pistol is used by Van Cleef to kill the medical examiner who has been faking autopsy reports for Fouchon on all of their hunt targets. It's fired through the peephole of his front door, into his eye.
- Looks like a Ruger to me.
- It looks similar to a Ruger Mark I or II.
Its definitely a Silenced Ruger MK I
M79 grenade launcher
An M79 grenade launcher is seen used by Van Cleef in the beginning to fire a 40mm grenade at Douglas Binder.
Winchester Model 1300
At the end of the film, Chance takes a Winchester Model 1300 shotgun from one of Fouchon's men and uses it to shoot at Fouchon, in one instance causing a direct hit (which is made futile by Fouchon's body armor). When Fouchon takes Natasha hostage, she encourages Chance to shoot him, but as Fouchon points out, "If he shoots me, he'll hit you...he's picked the wrong tool for the job." This is a reference to the fact that the spread of a shotgun blast might be too wide to hit only Fouchon. Chance, knowing that Fouchon is right, ejects all remaining shells out of the Winchester and then sets it down.
M67 hand grenade
Many of Fouchon's men use M67 hand grenades, which are tossed at Chance in the climax. Van Cleef carries a bandoleer of these grenades, and when Chance shoots him, he pulls one out, intending to blow himself and Chance up with one of them. But he expires before he can pull the pin, and the M67 falls into Chance's hand. Chance later uses this same grenade to kill Fouchon by dropping it down his pants. Fouchon gets the grenade out of his hands and unscrews the fuse, but he holds it close enough that it still sparks, triggering the grenade to explode.
Like nearly all movies, this is actually a visually modified M69 training version of the M67. The fact that it's painted olive green is a strong clue.
The Trunk Arsenal
When Fouchon and his men surround the Mardi Gras Graveyard where Chance is cornered, they open the trunks of their Jeep Cherokees and take out enormous amounts of weaponry being stashed in the back. The following guns are visible in this scene:
Visible in this image are the following:
Heckler & Koch MP5A3/A5
Depends on the trigger group, which is not easily visible here.
Valmet M78
As used by the guy with the red and white shirt.
Colt XM177E2
Across the bottom of the trunk.
...plus ammunition, and some other guns which are not really visible.
Visible in this image are the following:
Winchester Model 1300
With pistol grip and stock.
