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File talk:KRISS Kard.jpg
On the subject of watermarks
I think that a photo just like this one has been uploaded once before, but was deleted because it was a cropped version of TFB's KARD photo from REMOV, which contained REMOV's watermark. However, I've checked this one; this one is the original photo, with the same end points as the image on TFB, meaning that this is the base, unaltered (I think) version of the image that REMOV later added a watermark onto. --Wuzh (talk) 18:57, 23 January 2019 (EST)
- Actually, compared to the photo we were using, I don't think that they're the same gun. I mean, this one has finger grooves that the other, as blurry as it is, obviously lacks (not to mention what seems to be electrical tape on the grip), and has a rather obviously different trigger profile compared to the prior image. Maybe they're prototypes from different stages of development or something? Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 20:25, 23 January 2019 (EST)
- Considering that the Kard is a prototype weapon, they're most likely prototypes from different design stages. (they're both Kards though, no question about that) Also, I would add that the Kard in some of the games seems to be modeled after this one, since the vertical line towards the front of the receiver is located closer to the muzzle than the trigger on this weapon, something also seen on the video game guns. --Wuzh (talk) 21:12, 23 January 2019 (EST)
- Regarding REMOV, it's pretty clear to me that the image shown in the topwar.ru article had the watermark removed via Photoshop (or another software), considering that it lacks the bit of reflection/lighting effect shown at the right of the watermark, nevermind the fact that TFB's article predates that of topwar.ru by almost four years. That said, if the image is really needed (which it probably is, considering the model used in GR:Future Soldier, as well as the fact that we can't find a similar one), I personally don't have a problem with keeping it, as long as we link the original page where it came from (a while ago I made a similar action with the image of the 2015 AK-12 prototype). That's just my opinion though. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 08:26, 25 January 2019 (EST)
- I would like to add that apparently the BO2 Kard is based on the top railed schematics found at thefirearmblog which raises the question, should we add these here to illustrate that considering that it's quite possible we won't find an actual prototype of that design? --Nanomat (talk) 09:48, 25 January 2019 (EST)
- Regarding REMOV, it's pretty clear to me that the image shown in the topwar.ru article had the watermark removed via Photoshop (or another software), considering that it lacks the bit of reflection/lighting effect shown at the right of the watermark, nevermind the fact that TFB's article predates that of topwar.ru by almost four years. That said, if the image is really needed (which it probably is, considering the model used in GR:Future Soldier, as well as the fact that we can't find a similar one), I personally don't have a problem with keeping it, as long as we link the original page where it came from (a while ago I made a similar action with the image of the 2015 AK-12 prototype). That's just my opinion though. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 08:26, 25 January 2019 (EST)
- Considering that the Kard is a prototype weapon, they're most likely prototypes from different design stages. (they're both Kards though, no question about that) Also, I would add that the Kard in some of the games seems to be modeled after this one, since the vertical line towards the front of the receiver is located closer to the muzzle than the trigger on this weapon, something also seen on the video game guns. --Wuzh (talk) 21:12, 23 January 2019 (EST)
