Talk:The Walking Dead - Season 4

Season 4 Webisodes "The Oath"

The following weapons were used in the 3-part webisode series entitled "The Oath":

Smith & Wesson Model 60

What appears to be a Smith & Wesson Model 60 is seen in the hands of both Karina (Ashley Bell) and Paul (Wyatt Russell).

Early version of the Smith & Wesson Model 60 - .38 Special Only

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The Smith & Wesson Model 60 is seen in the hands of Karina (Ashley Bell) in "The Oath, Part 1".

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Closeup of the revolver in "The Oath, Part 1".

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The revolver is held by Paul (Wyatt Russell) in "The Oath, Part 3".

Please help ID

Please help ID the following weapons.

The survivor on the left has a holstered pistol (a Browning Hi-Power, perhaps?) and the survivor on the right has an AR-15 type rifle.

Unfortunately I can't place the logo on the lower which would possibly tell us exactly what it is, but I believe the handguard is a Troy Industries. --commando552 (talk) 16:00, 25 November 2013 (EST)

Long Rifle nr. 1

Another shot of the rifle. Also notice the tan-colored pistol on his belt. A tan Beretta Px4 Storm?..

The same rifle is also seen in "Too Far Gone" (S4E08).

I think it might be a Smith & Wesson M&P with a tan frame, you get a better look at it when everybody starts shouting at each other a few seconds after this where you can see the M&P style beavertail on the grip. --commando552 (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2013 (EST)

Long Rifle nr. 2

As some of you know, I'm not the expert to come see when you want to identify an AR-15, but I think this rifle is a a KAC SR-15. Daryl Dixon hands Bob Stookey a long rifle in "Too Far Gone" (S4E08). Maggie also handles the rifle during the same episode.

Daryl hands Bob the rifle in "Too Far Gone" (S4E08).

Bob fires the rifle (S4E08).

Bob fires.

Maggie holds Bob's rifle after he is injured (S4E08).

Long Rifle nr. 3

It seems commando was right, this particular rifle is fitted with a PRS stock.

A survivor has a large frame rifle in "Dead Weight", that I can't put my finger on...

One of the Governor's men fires his rifle in "Too Far Gone" (S4E08). (Another SR-15?)

--Warejaws (talk) 14:56, 25 November 2013 (EST)

The large frame rifle I believe its a McMillan rifle it has the same design it's gotta be that or some other sniper rifle.--Balin21 (talk) 15:22, 25 November 2013 (EST)

I'm fairly sure it is actually an AR-15 (or possibly an AR-10) fitted with a Magpul PRS stock. --commando552 (talk) 15:52, 25 November 2013 (EST)

M1911 in the dirt

In the teaser for S4E1, Rick finds a mud-covered M1911-type pistol when tending a garden.

Yes, I just watched the first episode and Rick finds the M1911 in the dirt. He examines it, sees the magazine is still inside a fully loaded, then tosses the gun and mag in a wheelbarrow. The M1911 itself looks like a Colt Government MK IV Series 70. --PyramidHead (talk) 22:54, 13 October 2013 (EDT)

Additional Screenshots

I think this scene was cut from the episode.

Bob Stookey draws his 92FS.

Some tips

Few tips that would be good to follow:

1. STOP always putting the name of an actor in every screenshot description when it has been written a lot of times in previous screencap descriptions. Also, stop unnecessarily linking and writing the full names of actors and guns in picture descriptions. How can you have nerves for that!?

2. STOP writing every damn title's section with big letters, e.g. "Submachine Guns (wrong) and shotgun gauges (it's written "12 gauge", not "12 Gauge", it's a gauge, not a named caliber; 12 Lapua Magnum).

3. For season-episode abbreviations, write "S04E01" – with zeros, instead of "S4E1" (again wrong).

...and 4th, but less important; "×" is more preferable than just writing letter "x" in calibers that mainly use metric designations. Thanks! TitaniumAlloy (talk) 16:06, 28 October 2013 (EDT)

Why? I'm from Europe (we use the metric system) and I showed the Xs to my friend. He said the regular "x" is the best, as do I. How the heck do you even make that friggin' puny hipster-x? --Warejaws (talk) 14:01, 29 October 2013 (EDT)

Are these for whom?... --Warejaws (talk) 16:20, 28 October 2013 (EDT)

The reason why the "G" in titles such as "Submachine Guns" is capitalized is because these are being treated as headings. Please do not change this. --Ben41 (talk) 02:57, 29 October 2013 (EDT)

Ben, doesn't matter if it's a heading or not, IMFDb is a Wiki-type page. In en.wiki or any other Wikipedia, headings are not capitalized. We should follow & do the same, in the right correct way. TitaniumAlloy (talk) 13:29, 29 October 2013 (EDT)

I agree on your number 1 & 3 (my style), but in my opinion the headings should be capitalized. As you said we're a wiki-TYPE database... --Warejaws (talk) 13:58, 29 October 2013 (EDT)

Yes, headings should be capitalized as any other title would be. Wikipedia's policies, whatever they may be, don't apply here because we aren't Wikipedia. Spartan198 (talk) 20:12, 30 October 2013 (EDT)

I eliminated the "zero" from the Season number to save space and series rarely go into double digits. Space is sometimes needed when filling in columns. --Ben41 (talk) 04:03, 31 October 2013 (EDT)

Dr. Caleb's shotguns stash

I'm having trouble identifying some of these shotguns I know that one of them a Ithaca can anyone ID the rest?--Balin21 (talk) 16:09, 22 November 2013 (EST)

The one at the right is a Remington 870 and the one with the black grip appears to be a Mossberg 500. --Ben41 (talk) 16:11, 22 November 2013 (EST)

Cool thank you.

Mitch's Tank

First seen in "Dead Weight," new character Mitch has a tank that he apparently drove around no problem. Can anyone identify what tank it is exactly? I'm thinking M60 Patton. --PyramidHead (talk) 21:30, 25 November 2013 (EST)

I'm thinking M60 as well. Spartan198 (talk) 04:28, 26 November 2013 (EST)

"Dead Weight" (S4E07)

Even more erroneous, the characters talk about the tank as if it is still in service. The M60 hasn't been in US service since 1997. I realize that getting ahold of an actual Abrams is extremely difficult, but the producers could have done what they did in Season 1 and mock up a British Chieftain tank. That at least can somewhat pass as an Abrams. --Antediluvial (talk) 00:05, 27 November 2013 (EST)

Getting a real Abrams would mean requesting to borrow one from the DoD, since AFAIK the only M1 Abrams in private ownership is the burnt out wreck of an early XM1. The Patton was probably cheaper to rent than the Chieftain. You'd think that with TWD being such a ratings success, AMC would increase the show's per episode budget rather than keep slashing it. Spartan198 (talk) 01:45, 27 November 2013 (EST)

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about the Patton. Mitch has been driving around this Vietnam era museum piece for like two something years now apparently. --PyramidHead (talk) 09:32, 27 November 2013 (EST)

Confirmed. yeah... It is M60A3 but I think that tank was abandoned and it's turret was removed. I think that was taken from vietnam era museum or no... Even erroneous. I found something here http://www.battletanks.com/images/M60A3-2.jpg --PaulD21x (talk) 20:54 (VE), 28 November 2013