Talk:Léon: The Professional

Revamp

I'll be giving this page a much need revamp in the not too distant future, if that's okay with everyone. - Gunmaster45

That's cool it's severely lacking on captures and it need a make over -Phoenixent 05:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, GM? Where is that revamp?-protoAuthor -Dangit, Bobb -I mean, GM, if you don't do this soon, I will.-protoAuthor

Proto, John can do a better to than you. Wait for him.-Oliveira 19:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

But will he do it? That's the question.

I was going to do it, but I guess AdAstra2009 did it instead. I got swamped with movies to screencap for Predator20, and this was seriously the next fucking movie I was going to do. Damm it, waste of $15! - Gunmaster45

No it isn't. It's an awesome movie.-protoAuthor

John, Here is a Video to make you feel better.

video clicky.-Oliveira 01:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

It was a waste because I've seen the movie a million times before and own it on VHS, I bought the DVD strictly to screencap. And as for the video, WTF? - Gunmaster45

What the fuck indeed, John, What the fuck indeed.-Oliveira 01:14, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but the DVD has all those nifty special features, and won't break down like the VHS will. Although, of course, you might not be a special features guy. I am, though. I actually got angry on Black Friday when the Black Hawk Down Deluxe Edition sold for $6, not because I bought it at a high price, which I did, but because it's worth SO much more, it has over 24 hours of special features! But if you still think it's a waste, think about this: You might be helping to make a sequel with Natalie Portman being a cleaner. -protoAuthor

I like special features, and after watching it on DVD, I liked the scenes added. I was just frustrated because I went out of my way to pick this up for nothing. No big deal though. - Gunmaster45

lol sorry about that GM45, My dad was like "heh Eric wanna go to Blockbuster, they are selling off all their stock" so I was like "sure" and I was picking between Ghosts of Mars and The Professional, I guess it would have been better if I bought Ghosts of Mars Instead. You can still cap some parts though, The copy I have does not have all the extra scenes like the Ringtrick, Russian Roulette, and the scene where leon shoves his gun in the Dealer's mouth. --AdAstra2009 02:38, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Cool, will do when I have time. - Gunmaster45

I'm going to screencap Se7en first and then I'll add shots here. - Gunmaster45

Damn, I was gonna do that. But go ahead, my capping software seems to be failing me right now.-protoAuthor

Where does this SWAT team shop?

I hope i'm not the only one who noticed the variety of exotic weapons the SWAT team uses. Galils? AA-52s, Mini-14s? What SWAT team lets each officer handpick his own rifle for god's sakes? I thought they generally used M16s and M4s.

Every Single weapon the SWAT team uses is not used in real life. Except for the Mini-14. Also, SWAT teams let officers handpick their rifles. They also let them customize them as well.-Oliveira 23:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

This movie was made in the mid-1990s, so 9mm subguns (namely, the H&K MP5 and Colt RO635) would have been the norm for SWAT teams back then. As for the exotic array of 5.56mm carbines used here, this movie was a French production and had French armorers, so I guess they didn't have access to very many AR-model rifles. Plus, it's a movie anyway. -MT2008

When you have French Armorer Christophe Maratier doing the weapons, you KNOW that you're gonna get really weird choices. Also I heard that all the INTERIOR SHOTS of the SWAT team fighting in the building were filmed on a sound stage in Paris, France. Heck, I would go to another country than try to film live fire in NYC, they are so restrictive (remember that Cloverfield had to fake NYC on California Streets because of NYC's restrictions on live fire?). Anyway, knowing that the interior battle scenes of Leon's hotel were filmed on a FRENCH soundstage explains the eclectic choice in SWAT weapons..... MoviePropMaster2008 19:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

The whole SWAT team is very "Continental" it's weaponry and overall appearance. Very sharp and well French. It's a great movie. But it isn't a documentary. --Jcordell 22:22, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Also I heard that all the INTERIOR SHOTS of the SWAT team fighting in the building were filmed on a sound stage in Paris, France.

Almost the entire movie, aside from the exterior shots, was filmed in Paris. Even some of the exterior shots were done in Paris, too (I believe they imported American cars and other items needed to make Paris look like NYC). But since every scene involving guns was indoors, that would have been done in Paris, and so that's why they had a French armorer who evidently didn't have any AR-15s in inventory (or maybe Luc Besson himself just wanted them to have a ridiculous array of mis-matched European-made rifles). -MT2008

The building where Matilda and Leon live is a building in NY, but both apartment interiors are filmed on sets in Paris. It's mind boggling how they can travel across the ocean just by walking into their homes! - Gunmaster45

Ah the power of cinema. And on a final note, watching a shootout with such a vast arsenal of rifles is kind of a breath of fresh air from the endless drone of MP5s and M4s used by SWAT teams in most films. I would also like to know the name of the actor that played the head (or that's what I assume) ESU member, but my disc keeps freezing at the start of the credits. Help anyone? M14fanboy 08:32, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Their gear in general is off, which would make sense considering they filmed the scenes in France (which explains the French LMG they used to launch the "rifle grenade", actually an ILLUM flare). They have no "POLICE" markings on their uniforms that would identify them as law enforcement officers. From the 1980s through the early 2000s, NYPD ESU officers would wear a rectangular embroidered patch on their vests that read "NYPD - POLICE - EMERGENCY SERVICE UNIT", but that was not in the movie. They also don't appear to be wearing body armor or helmets. During the shootout, some ESU guys were hit in the torso by Leon's sidearm, shots that body armor would've easily stopped. They also wear three-hole balaclavas. From what I've seen, American police (and many police around the world) do not wear three-hole balaclavas, but rather one-hole balaclavas. Also, their tactics in general seemed very off. They stuck their heads around corners to see what was on the other side (exposing themselves to danger, when they could've used a mirror and not put themselves at risk), spraying-and-praying and hitting their own men, etc. Laqueesha (talk) 00:29, 25 January 2014 (EST)

Other images

Highlight for Spoilers: Stansfield opens up the expired Léon's jacket to discover seven grenades, with his Smith & Wesson Model 629 in hand.

Why was the notation regarding Keith A. Glascoe removed?

I hope in the final version of this page there is room to honor Keith A. Glascoe (who played BENNY), who died trying to save people from Tower 2 on Sept 11th, 2001.

MoviePropMaster2008 19:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I'll be sure to note it when I do the actor page.Rockwolf66 19:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

It's the least we can do, removing it seems rather insensitive. - Gunmaster45

The notation is up as of now--AdAstra2009 23:26, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Malky's Ithaca shotgun

Don' know if it's MY eyes, but that does NOT look like a 12 gauge Ithaca 37. It looks more like a 16 gauge rather than 12...... MoviePropMaster2008 19:43, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

SGW Multimatch

Adastra? I'm questioning how you know it's a SGW multimatch? Also there is no reference to a rifle called the multimatch that I can find anywhere. I know of the old SGW multimatch trigger and AR15 but that was not an official rifle designation that I can verify and it looked like any other AR15, so it must be referring to a different SGW gun. I know that Olympic Arms made a bunch of stuff before Clinton literally destroyed their product offerings, but I hope you can provide links or information on this. I have a very similar gun, but it's a Bushmaster from the same period (1990-1993). MoviePropMaster2008 20:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I did not identify that particular firearm and I just assumed that the person who Identified it was correct ,I just uploaded the screenshots (which in turn were replaced by GM45) --AdAstra2009 21:57, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes, the CURSE of the anonymous user STRIKES again. :( I have found NO information nor evidence of the SGW Multimatch, except as an AR15 lower receiver assembly with match trigger. The barreled upper may be a long version based in part on the OA-93 but that's purely a wild guess. I know there was a Bushmaster V-Match Carbine with standard weight barrel that looked exactly like this gun (except for the Bell&Carlson Stock). Since the weapon was on obvious build up, we can only ID it from the barreled UPPER, which looks to me to be a Bushmaster. Well until this ANONYMOUS USER bothers to grace us with his immense knowledge once again, I'm gonna change it back. Thanks AdAstra for the clarification. :) MPM2008

Also the quip about the simunitions being plausible is in fact not. Simunitions HURT alot when you're hit in an unarmored spot. When the politician gets a paintball splat on his chest, his reaction is confusion, not pain. Thus simunitions, though possible, is not at all plausible in the context of the scene. MoviePropMaster2008 00:06, 29 August 2011 (CDT)

I know it's been a while but that section could still do with a cleanup by someone with a bit more where-with-all - I'm not sure but a couple spots in it seem more like debate and point-counterpoint stuff rather than straight factual knowledge, and as previously pointed out some of the more pointed knowledge seems false anyway. I was gonna take out some stuff in my last go-through on the page but I'd rather not remove sections without at least noting it first. StanTheMan (talk) 01:47, 27 September 2015 (EDT)

Stansfield's .44 mag

could his revolver be the same type George Clooney used in dusk till dawn only stainless steel and the Ejector shround shaved to an angle to make it less bulky and easier to whip out in an emergency. Just throwin' it out there...

Oh damn, that was an Astra Terminator. My bad.

Incomplete Category

I'm removing the Incomplete Category. Seems to me this page is now complete. --Jcordell 16:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Random change in the Berettas?

I've never see film, so I don't know if this was explained on screen, but did Leon's Berettas randomly change into tutones in the bottom two pictures? Acora 14:50, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

No they don't randomly change. He mainly uses the all black one. Only when he's using two of them hanging upside down he has a black and a two-tone. He just uses the two-tone only after that.--Predator20 15:00, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Léon shoots ESU members with a brace of Beretta 92FS pistols while hanging from his door frame, one with a stainless frame.

Model 629

Why did someone replace the picture of Stansfield's S&W Model 629? The first one matched the one used in the film better.

Because that image was uploaded over a completely different version of the Model 629 that is more prevalent. --AdAstra2009 17:32, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Smith & Wesson 41

Any weight to the user's comments? If he's right, then the S&W 41 page is threatened since this is its only entry. --Funkychinaman 13:42, 13 January 2012 (CST)

I can't tell and I watched the movie today to see if I could make an ID. --Jcordell 00:58, 19 March 2012 (CDT)

A Smith & Wesson 41 pistol with target grips is seen among Léon's gun collection.

Smith & Wesson 41 with standard grips - .22 Long Rifle

The Smith & Wesson 41 in Léon's case.

Mathilda wipes down the Smith & Wesson 41.

Mathilda places the Smith & Wesson 41 on the table.

The Smith & Wesson 41 laying on the table.

The pistol in question is actually a Benelli model B76 in 9mm. It's the sport variation which utilizes a weighted barrel not unlike the H&K P9 Sport. Its Italian pedigree makes it a nice fit in Leon's arsenal. The two give-aways are the sloped trigger guard and matte stainless trigger. The bore diameter and barrel exposed slide are also clues.

Title

Strictly speaking this page should be under "The Professional" since that was the original US release title, but IMDB says "Léon: The Professional" is now used in the US too, and the movie is most commonly called "Léon" with very few people still using the original US theatrical title. Should it be changed? Evil Tim (talk) 03:48, 17 December 2012 (EST)

What knife does Leon hold up to the Fatman's neck??

Anybody know??

It's an 9" Italian switchblade stiletto with a swedge grind blade. Fitting for an Italian hitman character. - TheREwiz

Kimel AP-9

Love how Willi Blood expends all 20 rounds before he realizes what the hell he just did. Also, I'm digging that kickass jacket he wore while shooting up the place, can someone tell me what kind it is?

                                                                                  -Nova 7/11/13.

S&W Two-Tone

Just re-checked/looked at this image going over the S&W 3rd gen model numbers, and it seems the 'hybrid' has a standard model number - In this case 3917 (stainless frame, blued slide). So I suppose that should be changed and noted to reflect that (Should keep it in mind since I think I've seen a similar two-tone S&W at least once more elsewhere.) StanTheMan (talk) 14:16, 11 May 2016 (EDT)

Additional Images

I'm clearing out Special:Unused Files so I can find unused gun images and add them to relevant pages. --Wuzh (talk) 23:54, 27 December 2017 (EST)

Excuse me but, why? I don't really see what purpose taking all of these images and dumping them to clutter the talk page serves. That being said, I'd say most of these screenshots really ought to be marked for outright deletion anyway. StanTheMan (talk) 22:15, 28 December 2017 (EST)

UnusedFiles has a limit of 1000 images per cache, and if I want to find any forgotten gun image uploaded and forgotten over half a decade ago, I need to get rid of some of them. I have no qualms about listing these for deletion if there is no use for any of them. --Wuzh (talk) 23:39, 28 December 2017 (EST)

I have a feeling some of those images were moved because there was a question of actually putting them on pages, especially images from outside sources. They may be candidates for deletion as well. At any rate given the extent you're going with these edits perhaps you should consult with the admins before proceeding any further. As for the screenshots here, I've marked the majority of them for deletion, particularly ones that were blurry or otherwise poor shots, and redundant ones which are already on the main page. StanTheMan (talk) 20:14, 29 December 2017 (EST)

Yeah, don't drop unused files on talk pages, if they're not used and not already on a talk page, just stick the {{nuke}} tag on them and we'll kill them off. Evil Tim (talk) 20:22, 29 December 2017 (EST)

Flamethrower?

One of the NYPD ESU officers has two tanks on his back; i think this might be some kind of fake flamethrower (Fuel tanks are smaller than any real model). A rather absurd weapon for a NYPD unit to use; specially in a crowded apartment building. FriendlyHornet 09:41, 01 March 2024 (BRT)

Definitely not a flamethrower. These tanks are carried by some other ESU officers in the film, but I don't know exactly what they are. Ultimate94ninja (talk) 19:02, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Maybe they are (possibly fake) oxygen tanks for the gas mask? Most masks that use tanks only need one; but the movie takes a lot of liberties with the equipment anyway (Maybe the other tank is suppoosed to be a spare?). FriendlyHornet 17:16, 01 March 2024 (BRT)