Talk:Incredibles, The

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the weapons are very stylized and don't look that much like the so called 'real world' weapons they are based on. But at least this film is 'closer' to actual weapons than other 'animated' films. Personally the entire genre should be the LAST thing we put on IMFDB. No one gives a rat's ass what kind of 'gun' that grey rectangle is supposed to be. MoviePropMaster2008 00:54, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Yup. People who animate childrens movies don't give a rat's ass about animating a specific model of gun that the baddies are gonna use because the neither do the intended audience, children-S&Wshooter 04:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Umm,to me,they looked like MP40's or M3 Grease guns with scopes attached. I know completely off topic,but really,I was looking hard enough to give a rat's ass.-Pump Shotty Justice

Then you must be blind. They MAY have been influenced by the design, but they're not the same weapons. That in particular is why I don't believe the guns deserve listing (or the page). And yes, I really liked the movie, but that has nothing to do with it. Does it merit a page? That is really Debatable! MoviePropMaster2008 02:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but the intended viewer doesn't care. They're more concerned with whatever Pokemon clone is currently popular and going to recess-S&Wshooter 04:53, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

While I'd prefer to watch a more violent movie, I'm not gonna lie: I find this film entertaining. And because I'm on this site, we all know I like firearms. Now while I'm not the INTENDED audience, I still have seen the movie, and I think it's IMFDB's job to assess weapons in any film, whether they move the plot along or not. So yes, I know that the intended audience doesn't care, but I feelthat we're obligated to find out anyway. GamerfreakB7 1912 hrs, 12 December, 2009

I think this page should be deleted from IMFDB. Mainly because, while the guns are more real looking then other cartoons, that doesn't say much. This is a Cartoon with "guns" that are mainly designed to look like what everybody who has never known much about guns thinks guns look like. This page should be deleted at once, it's just taking up space on the site. - Kilgore 16:24, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I think it might be time to amend the rules regarding animation. Anime is allowed because "the animators care," so why can't we base it on that? Right now, this movie is eligible, but a show like Archer, where the animators seem to care, is instantly disqualified. I don't think it'd be too hard to do it case by case. --funkychinaman 19:15, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I agree, I think that guns in cartoons should only have pages if the cartoon actually models them after real guns, not if they're shaped similarly to real guns. While reading this page, I was actually planning on coming to the discussion page and making a sarcastic comment about how Edna's laser turret should be added to the page, and to my horror as I kept reading it was already there. This page is a joke. And I loved the movie, for the record.That's One Angry Duck 03:21, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Even the Supreme Court relies on "I'll know it when I see it." There are at least a dozen admins, and two or three new movies a day, tops, and those new additions are already being vetted for one reason or another. It can't be that hard to find three admins to vote for each new animated show or film. --funkychinaman 04:20, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Look, I have no problem let a cartoon on IMFDb if it has weapons that are based 100% on real life guns, but this is basically a page that should have been deleted back when IMFDB got rid of cartoon pages that had "guns" that were based on common mis-understandings that all guns are the same. I think everybody is on the same level of thinking as me, so if nobody starts pissing their pants over it, this page is going to the Delete Catagory. - Kilgore 04:28, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

There's a gun that was missed.

In that one scene where Mr. Incredible receives his message from Mirage and he looks up at all the memorabilia hanging on his wall, there is a gun on display that looks loosely based on the real-world Heckler & Koch MP5K. I just watched the movie again recently, and I saw the gun's appearance. While it is not an EXACT match to the real-world counterpart, it comes pretty close. But if this article is still up for deletion, then I guess trying to add it in won't matter. --ThatoneguyJosh 01:45, 3 July 2011 (CDT)

Armed Gunman's Submachine Gun

How about the “Armed Gunman's Submachine Gun” is based on the MP 3008, a Nazi copy of the Sten Gun with the magazine actually located below the gun? Hope this helps, PeeWee055 (talk) 16:30, 17 June 2013 (EDT)

While I do see a resemblance between the two I think it's unlikely since the MP 3008 was an obscure SMG only made as a act of desperation by the Nazis. If anything its just a coincidence. Mr.Ice (talk) 16:53, 17 June 2013 (EDT)

SAVING CODE

The majority of these weapons entered are not very well defined, so this will be archived. --Ben41 (talk) 18:10, 24 October 2013 (EDT)

The following guns were used in the film The Incredibles:

The Incredibles (2004)

M1911A1 based pistol

The standard issue sidearm of the police in the film is a handgun based off the real world M1911A1 pistol. At one point a mugger is also seen using one.

M1911A1 - .45 ACP

A police officer fires his M1911 pistol at a robber's vehicle. Seems somewhat unbecoming of an officer, since they are speeding through an area filled with cars and civilians.

"Hey look..."A robber aims his M1911 at Mr. Incredible (V.O. Craig T. Nelson). But is knocked out by Elastigirl a few seconds later.

"Freeze!" A police officer aims his M1911 at Mr. Incredible and Frozone (V.O. Samuel L. Jackson) in a parody of a similar scene in Die Hard with a Vengeance, mistaking them for robbers breaking into a jewelry store.

The officer after being frozen by Frozone. Note the frozen bullet in mid-flight, while the other officers have their M1911's out after rushing into the store.

Armed Gunman's Submachine Gun

At the start of the film, an armed gunman is seen using a submachine gun that resembles both an M3 / M3A1 "Grease Gun" and an MP40.

MP40 - 9mm.

M3/M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP.

The robber cocks his submachine gun.

The robber fires on the police car. Note how the gun has a bolt lock like an MP40, but it is reversed to the front, which seems somewhat pointless.

The robber fires his submachine gun at the police car.Here it's has the stock of the Sten Mark VI

Syndrome's Guards' Submachine Gun

Syndrome's (V.O. Jason Lee) guards are seen carrying submachine guns with optical sights which resemble M3 / M3A1 "Grease Gun"s, when Elastigirl infiltrates the island base.

M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP.

A guard is seen holding a submachine gun that strongly resembles the M3/M3A1 "Grease Gun".

Two other guards walk by armed with their submachine guns.

A guard pokes Elastigirl's (V.O. Holly Hunter) leg with his submachine gun.

Guards cock their submachine guns when they encounter Dash and Violet in the jungle. Interestingly, a whirring, futuristic sound is heard when they do so.

A guard searches for Violet (V.O. Sarah Vowell) in the river. For some odd reason, the bolt handle is either missing or it blends in with the color scheme of the gun in this shot (Probably due to an animation error).

National Guard Assault Rifle

National Guard privates are seen firing rifles at Syndrome's (V.O. Jason Lee) robot when it attacks the city. They seem to be very loosely based on the FN FAL rifle, though they aren't an exact match.

FN FAL 50.00 - 7.62x51mm NATO (Pictured here for comparison purposes)

National Guard privates are seen armed with their assault rifles that weakly resemble the FN FAL as they approach the robot. The guns here have bolt handles that are on the wrong side of the weapon (the right side) when you look closely enough.

Browning M2HB-based Turrets

When Edna "E" Mode (V.O. Brad Bird) shows off the indestructibility of the baby's superhero costume, she test-fires on it with four machine gun turrets that heavily resemble Browning M2HB machine guns.

Browning M2HB - .50 BMG.

Edna shows off the strength of the baby's costume by having it fired upon by the four machine gun turrets which strongly resemble the Browning M2HB.

Turret

When Edna "E" Mode (V.O. Brad Bird) is first entering her underground workshop, a turret trains on Helen Parr (V.O. Holly Hunter) before Edna tells it she has a guest.

A fictional turret aims at Helen Parr.

Starter Pistol

When Dash Parr (V.O. Spencer Fox) races for a school sporting event, a man fires a starter pistol into the air to start the race. The gun appears to be a recycled animation taken from the police officers' M1911 pistols and modified to look more like a starter gun.

The man fires the starter pistol into the air.