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Dirty Harry

Just so you know, Rafa has already done most of the Dirty Harry films. They could use a re-vamp, though, as most of them are missing stuff that we usually consider essential to a good page.

1911

Interestingly enough, I talked to my uncle (who is from West Hurley, NY; dunno if you've ever been there) a few weeks before I moved to Texas, and he was telling me excitedly about how he purchased an STI Guardian 1911 last month. If I ever go back there, I might just have to shoot it. Actually, I get the impression he wouldn't let me rest until I do...

Anyway, to answer your question, I must point out that I rarely get to shoot at all, which is mostly a consequence of the fact that I was in college out-of-state for four years, and recently moved to another state to take a job. However, I've never been a huge fan of .45 ACP pistols, which I've simply never handled well. My grandfather gave me a S&W 4506 when I turned 18, and it's really a monster (I haven't shot it in about 4 years now). I've fired only one 1911 which also belonged to my uncle, a Springfield Armory if I recall. Great gun, but still not quite up my alley. Of the .45s I have shot, I would say I liked the P220 SAO best, but even then, not enough to buy. Don't get me wrong; I completely respect the 1911 and appreciate its importance to the development of the semi-auto pistol, but I don't shoot much, and I'm just not big into .45 ACP when I do, even though most American pistol shooters are. Also, I should point out that while I prefer the Taurus PT92 over the Beretta due to the 1911-style frame-mounted controls, I still like the SIG decocker best, which is why I'm currently leaning towards the P226 as a handgun purchase (which won't be anytime soon, since I'm not living in my state of residence right now).

BTW, nice job on improving the 1911 page. It's not perfect (lots of images still not aligned with the guns they're supposed to be with), but it does look a lot less sloppy than it used to. Keep working on those movie pages, too! -MT2008

Depends. If you can get a Tokarev pic, great. I do, of course, have a slight preference for MPM2008's pictures because his are always done professionally, but yours would still be great, too...if you can get it.
Don't worry about corrections. We all make mistakes. If it seems like we pick on you, it's just that you do so much work on this site that it's inevitable you'll have a lot errors, too. I mean, think of the Hard Boiled page...when you've got like 50 guns, how can you NOT get so tired that your eye slips on some of them?
It's fine, bruh...whenever you get time. It's for the site, not for me personally.
Oh, yeah, and while I appreciate the corrections on my mis-identification of Mossbergs (I suck with those), doesn't the Cruiser have a heat shield as standard? The ones in Training Day and The Departed don't have that, so does that just make them regular pistol-gripped 500s?

New stuff

Ah, great to see someone finally made a page for the Walther MP subguns. We've needed one for a while, and it's been on my to-do list, but I see you beat me to it! I hope you don't mind, but I did re-title the page so that it instead says "Walther MP series", to more accurately describe what it says. Also (this is totally nitpicky), there's no hyphen in the name (i.e. "MP-L" should just be "MPL"), so I did change that, too.

Thanks for uploading a Type 84 picture as well. MPM2008 said he'd do it for me at some point, but he couldn't find the mags for the Type 84s in his company's vault, so he wasn't going to take a picture until he could find them. Yours will do for now, tho. Also, do you think we should give it its own entry in the AK-47 page? I mean, the Type 84 is basically just a Type 56 that fires .223, so I figured it would be best to just include it under the Type 56 entry as a Type 56 variation. Though I guess that would get confusing...

I added it to the AK page in the Norinco section already. And when I found the info for the Walther MP guns, they had hyphens for the L & Ks.
Oh, I know you added the Type 84 already; I'm just question whether it should be grouped with Norinco Type 56. Anyway, didn't you get those pics from World Guns.ru? They don't use the hyphen. Which site did you get your info from?
My information is from a book, the pictures are from that site.
OK, interesting. Which book is it? It doesn't matter too much, I guess, but everything I've read has no hyphen. I have a Gun Digest Assault Weapons issue from 1986 which reviews the MPK, and that's what they call it, not "MP-K".
"Small Arms From the Civil War to the Present Day" by Martin J. Dougherty made in 2005. He lists them as the MP-L and MP-K. Like you said, it doesn't really matter much.

Your articles

Hi,

You know I really like your articles, but I must make one request: Please try to add pictures of the guns, and also make sure that when you say the gun's name, you link to its page (if you've seen the Heat page recently, you'll notice I edited the guns you added to include pictures and links). I realize it's probably a pain in the ass, especially when you've got a gazillion weapons like your articles for Hollow Point or Last Action Hero, but try to do it when you get around to it. You can always do what I do: Copy and paste the code for the images and links from other pages which use the same gun, especially if the coding is complicated (i.e. getting to a specific MP5 variant). -MT2008

First of all, no page on IMFDB can escape MT2008's obsessive-compulsive editing tendencies! Haha, no, seriously, if you look at many of the pages I've worked on, I'm always editing them from time-to-time as I realize mistakes I've made. Plus, my pages rarely get shotguns or revolvers correct (since modern military weapons and semi-auto pistols are what I know best); I tend to leave them as "unknown" for other users in the future to correct.
As far as profanity goes, I dunno, I'm not one of the admins (come to think of it, I haven't seen any of them for a LONG time now). I'd guess it's OK provided you're just quoting a character (as you do on the Heartbreak Ridge page), but not if you're using it gratuitously, especially in conversation. You'd have to ask someone in charge for the low-down on that.

Current stuff

Just an FYI: Since I see you're working so hard on your Hollow Point page, I guess now's not the time, but...I recall there being an H&K-model rifle (probably an HK91) used by one of the police snipers in The Fugitive.

As far as the grenade launcher in Hollow Point, it does look a lot like the Arwen 37 (Google Image search it and you'll see pics), but I'm not positive. I've seen it before, too...I think in another movie somewhere.


You sure? I watched it twice and saw no HK91 rifle. And I said it was a MK1 Arwen, the oldest model employed, which he stole from a police car, which makes sense for a cop in 1996 to use one. And I've finally finished the Hollow Point page.


I remember it being at the very end, after he's been cleared and Gerard is escorting him out, you see a sniper wandering around with what looks like an HK91 or an SR9 variant. But I haven't seen the movie in years.

You should get a picture of the Arwen launcher for your page. Also, I'm pretty sure that tiny shotgun you see is a Franchi PA3/215 with a forward hand grip. I could be wrong (it's hard to tell from the distance), but I've never seen a Serbu with a folding stock, and I never thought they existed.

Heat

You should replace my screenshot of Trejo's AK's front sight with yours. Mine is from a low-quality AVI rip of the movie.

Also, what's a "P220-1"? I don't think I've ever heard that term used to describe a P220 before. Are you just referring to the fact that it's an older model P220 with a stamped slide and alloy frame?

It's what someone else listed it as earlier before. I assume it is meant to label the oldr model but I too haven't heard the term, I just went along with it. I don't change something unless it looks wrong or I think it is. Leave your username so I can respond back to you.
Oh, right, I always forget to do that. Personally, I wish IMFDB would add an option to automatically sign messages on other people's walls.
From what I've been reading, "P220-1" is apparently what some magazines for the gun are marked. I also see that the picture you found on a Google image search is also labeled "P220-1". I don't think it's a factory term (or even a fan-made term) for older-model P220s. I've heard the term "P220 American" to describe the P220s that have the magazine release near the decocker (as opposed to the bottom of the grip, which characterized the early European models) because this was apparently done specifically for the American market. -MT2008
Well, it's a bit more complicated with SIG than with Glock to label things in "Generations". I have certainly heard terms like "Gen 1" and "Gen 2" to describe Glocks (in fact, I often use them in my own articles), but when it comes to SIGs, they've made a zillion little changes to the guns every couple years to refine problems that developed. Like the moves from stamped to milled slides, K-kote and stainless finishes, magazine release changes, standard frames to railed frames (which are now standard on all of the P220-series guns, so they don't use the "R" to describe them anymore), etc, etc, etc. Plus, there were mechanical changes (i.e. redesign of the trigger bar spring) and ergonomic changes (i.e. redesign of the grips). These aren't changes that were introduced in any concrete "generations"; any SIG pistol you pick up might have some of the design changes, but lack others.
So I'm not really sure how each "generation" would be described exactly. In fact, it'd be kind of weird to call the gun in your picture a "Gen 1" because that's technically not true - the very first P220 was the model with the magazine release on the bottom of the grip, which was eventually replaced by what gun rags used to call the "P220 American" (the first model to feature the regular push-button mag release, and the best description for McCauley's gun). Would that make McCauley's gun a Gen 2? I'm not really sure. -MT2008
Oh, I know Glock gens. Those are quite easy in comparison, even though there have been some internal mechanical changes to Glocks as well within generations.
All-metal SIGs are nice guns, IMO. I can definitely say I'd love to own a P226 as soon as I can get my permit application completed (which sucks because in Orange County, NC, I have to get 3 references from other people before I can apply for a pistol purchase permit at the local sheriff's dept. office). It's one of the most ergonomic pistol designs I've ever fired. However, you gotta be careful with what you buy because they've had lots of mechanical issues over the years. I also think they're kind of overpriced for what you get. But...still very nice guns.
Congrats on the new compensator for the 1911. Have fun with that! BTW, nice job on The Rock page. I've been making corrections (as usual, because, you know...that's what I do), but it's cool you got so many high-quality screenshots uploaded.

Defense Technologies

Here is a picture of what the DefTech/Federal Labs launcher looks like:

Federallabs37.jpg

These have appeared in quite a few films, often portrayed as HE grenade launchers (RoboCop 3 is a good example). Anyway, it could be a C.A.W., but the arms of the folding stock visible in the second pic look kind of like DefTech to me. Hopefully, Al Vrkljan will start posting on this site again soon so that we can ask him!

Great Work!

Thanks for uploading the poster for the Catch a Fire page. I have also seen your pages and screenshots, and I would like to say they are great. Thanks for your contributions to the IMFDB, and keep up the good work. Alienqueen11

Response

I'm sorry, but I don't have any pictures of the guns I held years ago. the handguns I held are my Uncle's, he's a retired police officer, and I'm not sure if he'll let me look at them again because you know how some people are about firearms, but I can tell you that the .22 pistol was a very small if that will help. And also, there is another page larger then Bad Boys II, and it's MoviePropMaster2008's District B13 with 37 guns. User: Alienqueen11

Thanks

Thanks for identifying the shotguns on the Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem page, I hope the brighter screenshots helped. I still can't believe how dark that movie is, I know there's a blackout, but they didn't need to make the movie that dark. And also, I want to say excellent job on Toy Soldiers. Alienqueen11

About Language

Hey, I want to say good work on Heartbreak Ridge, there are so many pages on this site that need improvement. Also, I see you're wondering about language, I'm a moderator myself, and from I see, Bunni, the person who owns the site dosen't seem to mind as long as it is used in a quote or complaint, and not for vandalism. Just don't use anything racist, but I'm sure you won't. Alienqueen11

OK, that's what I figured, too, but I wanted to be sure. I did notice that some of the quotes which appear on the Main Page have profanity (like the one from Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels), but it's an issue that's never been addressed at all.

MGS4 M1911A1

Hey, Gunmaster, I seen your comment on the MGS4 page and found a link that might help:

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There you go, hope this helps. This game looks so great, it makes me wish I had a PS3. Alienqueen11

.50 Caliber 1911?

Yes, there is a .50 Caliber 1911. Guncrafter Industries Model No. 1 .50 GI. The bullet is roughly the same dimensions as the .45 ACP, just a little wider. Not the most practical gun, but it's a .50 1911 model.

M1.50GI.jpg

Also, the Automag V is the .50 caliber version, The Automag III is chambered for .30 Carbine (I actually got to play with one of these, slide is loooooong.) Not to be snide or cocky, you know your material, just saying.

Furthermore, I commend you with your eagle eyes spotting all the famous movieguns we've seen time and time again. Gun guys have to stick together, especially the next generation. If you ever want to contact me outside the site, email me at [email protected], or if you have an AIM account I'll be more than happy to IM. Keep up the great work.

Nice work on Platoon

It's shaping up nicely - I just made it the featured article on the front page. bunni 00:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Other answers (sorry for belated delivery)

.."how is it you take a picture of a gun and get a perfectly white clear background? What method is used to get that effect?"

I put the weapons on a clear plexiglass frame mount which I built from scratch. I place them in front of a seamless white paper backdrop. I illuminate the gun from one side with a large Arriflex Soft box and a smaller Lowel RIFA soft box on the other side. Sometimes I just put an LTM pepper on spots to lighten up dark areas. Then I put an Arriflex 1K on wide flood on the backdrop to whiten it out. I still need to erase some of the clear plexiglass mount (nothing is invisible, even clear transparent stuff) with Photoshop, but since most of the work is done before I download it onto the computer, it becomes much easier. I also move back at least ten feet and photograph the gun with a telephoto lens. This eliminates the 'warp' distortion of a wide angle lens when photographing a gun. Too many gun images are distorted because the photographer is too close ... and I see a lot of guy's feet at the bottom of the picture.

.."I've noticed that the M14 and M21 rifle pictures on this site aren't really that great..."

Done. Hope you like :) I will get some pics of M21s soon.

.."Thanks for fixing up that page, I was told by MT2008 it was a Colt Launcher, I guess it was a Cobray. ..."

I inundated MT2008 with info that there was no Colt launcher. Personally I didn't know who made or updated the page, he just sent me a note asking my opinion ... and SLAM! I dumped a bunch of stuff on him questioning the Colt claim. good thing he didn't get offended. hahaha I just responded to his query on my talk page. :)

.."Finding the pictures of them was probably the hardest thing on the page. Do you think we should keep the M203 to launcher comparison picture or is it irrelevant? -GM.."

The net has CRAPPY images. It's really hard, which is why I just pull out the stuff myself and take my own photos of it. I liked the idea of keeping a reference image. I am tempted to take a side by side pic myself (and not violate anyone else's copyright) and keep the clean white backdrop of the other pics. But I do have a couple of pics comparing them on the M16 page, i.e. mounted on rifles.
Yeah, the "Colt 37mm Flare Launcher" thing is completely my fault. I dunno why I thought they were made by Colt, but I swore I heard that term somewhere on the 'Net. Just goes to show why fact-checking is always mucho importante! But seriously, I'm glad MPM is always here to catch my goofs. See, GM, that's kinda how it works...I catch yours, he catches mine, and then everything works out for the better. -MT2008

Last Action Hero

I remember working peripherally (I helped out on some of the props, but wasn't on the armory staff at the time) on that film. Everyone DURING production was moaning about how dumb it was. And it was pretty dumb. I guess the people (NOT the stars) who work on films can actually tell if a movie is stinker when it's actually being filmed, I remember all of us laughing at the RAMBO III script when we saw it. Anyway, I will look for that pistol, but I'm not making any promises. I sure don't have one and off the top of my head, I don't know anyone who does. But I can ask around.

Also, Just a note, I really think that the MAC-10 in the film is actually MAC-11s (or possibly Cobray M11s, but I can't see how long the receivers are). They're much too small to be MAC-10s. I have average sized hands and MAC-10s are monstrously huge in my hands. Unless those stuntmen are giants, I think those are MAC-11s. Also it's funny that you DID note what I said about TEC-DC9s (being that they were usually seen in films after 1990). Apparently someone was listening. hahahaha. :) But those in the photos of Arnold, are in fact TEC-9s, not TEC-DC9s. they have the sling mount in front so they're TEC-9s. Also I don't remember if they fired full auto in the film, but as far as I know, all the TEC-DC9s in Hollywood inventory are semi auto only. All the full auto ones are legal full auto conversions of TEC-9s. Only Miami Vice and a couple of other shows in the early 1980s used the old InterDynamics KG-99s. But most of the full auto guns you see are TEC-9s.

I own M21s, but they're in pieces. I have to reassemble them, get a cool scope to put on them. Also we have M21s that just came back from Iraq, I can also take some pics of those.

Nice job

Hey, nice job on the Jurassic Park page, and the other pages you did over the weekend, and also I think you forgot to put A Beautiful Mind on your Pages Built list. Alienqueen11

Re: Nice Job

I understand what you mean, I have school as well, and I understand the weekends are going to be the only times when you can make something big for awhile. Anyway, good luck, and keep up the good work. Alienqueen11

M1911 shots by MPM2008

I am getting some shots of some pristine Early 20th century and World War 2 era M1911s and M1911A1s, so be patient. I also am trying to get beauty shots of a lot of the classic handguns. I got a collector who has mint condition examples of lots of these classic guns and I am scheduling a shoot with him and his collection next week. MoviePropMaster2008

Uzi

About the Uzi page, you might want to leave a note on Bunni's talk page, he'll probably know what to do.--Alienqueen11 18:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Training Day Revolver

You want evidence, and an argument, you got one. First off, The S&W Model 66 is made of stainless steel, and not carbon steel plated with nickel. Model 19s were originally released with blue or nickel finishes. Second, A snub nosed, round butt Model 19 is a dime a dozen across the states. Here's a picture resembling the one from Training Day. SW19SN.jpg

Look at the picture on the Training Day page, and they look identical, very identical, more so than any Taurus I have seen, or can find on the internet. No it doesn't have the emblem on the side, but that can be sanded off, photoshopped, or just not visible. None of us KNOW what this is, but I do KNOW my argument and my gun makes the most sense, above an Instant Backup, above a lot of things. Thank you for your time.


Call of Duty 4 Pictures

I have Pictures for guns in Call of Duty 4, but I have no clue how to get them to work

I've given up trying, and would just like to know who to send them to,

Pictures for: The Single player M4s [All three], Winchester M1200, M92 Krinkov, M21, And the USP

Since I can't trace your profile, I hope you read it on mine. Give me a URL to whatever page has these pics and I'll upload em for you. Sound good?

Re: Saving Private Ryan

I only took that one screenshot, wasn't planning on any more. Didn't mean to step on your toes there, was sort of done on impulse. Orca1 9904 18:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

It's awesome! And I have it in the Main Page "Featured Article" feed, too, so lots of people will get to see the overhaul. I always like it when I see a page that makes me want to watch a movie again, and this one is like that. Those Garand shots make me want to buy the M1 that I saw on sale this weekend (but...saving my $$$$ for the long dreamed-of P226 again).
Anyway, I'll look more later, but must watch Presidential debate now.
I've always loved the way the Garand ejects the stripper clip on the last round. My grandfather's a vet, and he's told me that he used to find it scary. But I find it oddly appealing in a retro-sorta way. If you get to play around with an original GI-issue M1, lucky you.
The Garand photos are really cool. As far as banning anonymous users from editing goes, I dunno. Seems a bit harsh. But at the very least, we really do need to have more moderators on hand.

Good call on the xXx

But it's spelled "xXx: State of the Union" Check out [[2]] as well as the first movie. I would have just changed it myself, but didn't want to jump out of the blue and just change your edit. Thanks. MPM2008

re: gun pics. I do have those guns but it takes time to do the photos. I am going to get new pics of actual M16A2s, a3s and a4s, sure some look alike but I'll try to get some good detail shots of the receivers if I remember. I went to the vault to take pics of the original m1911s and they're not there. I have to check with other people to see where they were moved.

Dibbs

The only film I would request or challenge dibbs rights on ;) is Rambo III since I (peripherally) worked on Rambo III and I would like to add information not readily available to the general public. Have you done the screen caps already? If not then I would be happy to, especially to highlight certain scenes with custom info. MPM2008

About the screencaps on COD4.

How did get them?
Sick-vice 22:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Re:XXX

Ah, OK. Well, understood then. It sucks when the director doesn't show good views of the actor/actress with a particular gun, but it's fine. Just a suggestion.

Nice work so far on Kelly's Heroes‎. While you're doing that, I think I'm going to get started soon on Where Eagles Dare.

On Kelly's Heroes

I'm sure you know this but Pt. Petuko is carrying an FN model D machine gun, completely the WRONG machine gun to be carrying. Also the leather Thompson Submachine gun magazine pouches aren't American but Yugoslavian Post war (1950s manufacture). Americans had khaki canvas Thompson stick pouches. MPM2008

M1911s

Per your request...Check out the new M1911 pics. I scored some really nice ones, a 1913 dated M1911 (original blued finish) and a World War 2 wartime dated M1911A1. I replaced some of the pics of repros in the original sections with those. Check it out. Thanks. MPM2008.

Need some help

Hello, I just added a few more guns in The Unit page and I need some help IDing some of them that I can't seem to put my finger on. Care to give me a hand if you can?

-Excaliber


Are you sure?

You changed the section in The Unit from a Ruger MK II to this HDM gun. Are you sure this is the same weapon? The photo you added barely looks like the one in the series.

What about the Mossberg? It didn't quite look like the Express Deer model.

Reign of Fire

I have no clue as to what that gun is. I don't have any opportunities to talk to John McKenna being that he's exclusively in Europe and I don't even know if he's ever visited the U.S. If you ever figure out what the gun is, I can try to see if anyone has it, but all the .577s I've seen are double rifles and not bolt action rifles. MPM2008


577 pic

Congrats on the pic!!! :) I did not know anything about that gun. As you probably well figured out by now, I don't own one, nor does my company. But I can start asking around to see if any of the armorers have one so that I can take a beauty shot of it. Good job. MPM2008

The Punisher

The guy who made The Punisher page is never on anymore, so I would say you can indeed redo it, it needs a revamp. Just promise me you'll break up the additional weapons section on that page, I can't stand when people cram a bunch of different weapons into one section like that, it has nothing to do with things you do like the Armory section on Hard Boiled because you branch out. Also did you get my message on The Sin City talk page? Thanks in advance for the revamp.--Alienqueen11 03:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Dawn of the Dead

Hey, I just uploaded some new Dawn of the Dead (2004) screenshots, and I want to know if you can take a look at the custom Remington 870 section of the page, and help me confirm that it is an 870, I'm sure it is, but just want to make sure because MPM2008 says he's going to get a picture of a shotgun in a similar configuration eventually, and he says it appears to have Mossberg style ghost ring sights, and also can Mossberg sights be put on an 870? Thanks in advance.--Alienqueen11 03:45, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the shotgun, and the Glock. Do you want me to take your comments off the page or leave them for future reference? Also you have really good eyes.--Alienqueen11 04:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Tears of the Sun

I saw you comment that you were planning on editing the Tears of the Sun page. If it's ok with you, I'd like to do it, as I recently bought the DVD of it just for that purpose. Orca1 9904 07:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

Re:Tybalts Gun

You can't talk to anonymous uses? I think I've done it before. Watch for a second... -MT2008

Ak recog

Interesting Idea on the AK recog page. I will keep it in mind. Right now a lot of the AKs are customized into weird configs but they will eventually be put back to stock version. The only problem right now is that there are tons of post 1999 AK variants (Hungarians, Polish, Romanian, US made, etc.) that I don't have access to. California banned all AK models after Dec 31st 1999, but we could get them with a special permit, but 99.99% of the guys (myself included) didn't bother picking up any of the new AK models since we already had dozens upon dozens of the older 1980s version AKs. Like Sacha Robey's .223 AKs for Casino Royale, many of the foreign movies have access to AKs that are not imported into the U.S. I will look into getting page for the most common AK examples but usually there are the Maadi ARM(MISRS), Poly Tech Legends, Norinco Type 56, Romanian AIMS or Hungarian SA85s. That's about it for most of the AKs I've seen (and usually they are all 'dressed up' to look like other models if necessary). Again, interesting idea and I will start making note of and taking pics of AKs for that page.... MoviePropMaster2008

Jarhead M60E3

The real-life M1 Abrams has never been fitted with any variant of the M60 machine gun, it has always had two M240 machine guns; one mounted in a 'coaxial' configuration parallel to the main 120mm gun, and a second mounted at the Loader's hatch. The Browning M2 heavy machine gun at the Commander's hatch is correct though. If you look at my userpage on here, there's a picture of a real M1A1 in Iraq, the Loader's M240 being clearly visible. Orca1 9904 23:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)Orca1_9904

animated gifs

Can you do this? I never realized someone did one for HEAT and I though (for a few select pages or a few select guns) it would be cool. You seem to be the guru of screen capping, but I don't know how to make an animated GIF.


HEAT M4 shorty Shootout.gif MPM2008

Just made you an Admin

You'll now be able to move pages, ban users and protect pages and images. :) WikiSysop 03:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


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