Talk:Transformers (2007)

Trivia special: Brawl

Brawl's tank form is an extremely large prop rather than a real tank, and was originally built for the movie XXX 2: State of the Union; it was modified for Transformers to carry a replica of the "Venus Fly Trap" MCBS [minus the two forks and "dog bone" magnetic mine detonator] and a pair of quad missile launch tubes on the secondary turret. The hull is a modified truck chassis with the rear shortened and the radiator cut off, using a Freightliner diesel engine and rubber band tracks taken from a construction vehicle; it is noticably too light for a real Abrams, as can be seen from how high it rides up as it runs over a car in Mission City. In addition, extras in the Mission City sequence don't seem to have been advised that they should be avoiding a 40-foot area surrounding the tank's turbine exhaust; some are standing in positions where they'd be severely burned if the tank was real.

The main gun is secured using a non-functional travel lock that has a tendency to disappear and reappear between shots, most likely there to stop the top-heavy prop turret falling off the chassis during the car-crushing sequence, as it has no visible hinge to fold down and is not a component of either the Abrams or the Leopard 2, the two tanks the prop is based on. Indeed, the turret visibly wobbles during this sequence. The main gun noticably doesn't recoil; barely at all in one shot of the muzzle, and not at all in another; by comparison, when the CGI version of the tank fires shortly afterwards the gun recoils as would be expected.

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The prop tank attempting to crush a car in Mission City. Note how high it's riding up onto the BMW; also note the rubber band treads rather than the Diehl Type 570 double-pin treads of a real Abrams.

This is what should be happening to that car.

The re-vamp

Very nice, GM. Once again, you beat me to it, but it looks good. And just because I'm a big freak, Captain Lennox's team was JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command), which is a team of (usually) Army Rangers, Green Berets, Air Force Special Tactics personnal, and (extremely rarely), Navy SEALs or Marine Recon. -The Winchester

Gunmaster, if you put up some shots of the Transformers, I'll help out as much as I can.

ID'ing vehicle types and information, mainly, though I can do some quick research and provide some background on the different characters if need be. --Clutch 01:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC)