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[[Image:Mannlicher Sport.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Steyr-Mannlicher Sporter.]]
 
[[Image:Mannlicher Sport.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Steyr-Mannlicher Sporter.]]
 
[[Image:M1903Mannlicher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Springfield M1903 in a Mannlicher Schönauer Carbine stock - .30-06  This is the screen used rifle (and sling) carried and used by [[Don Johnson]] in the movie ''[[A Boy and His Dog]]''.]]
 
[[Image:M1903Mannlicher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Springfield M1903 in a Mannlicher Schönauer Carbine stock - .30-06  This is the screen used rifle (and sling) carried and used by [[Don Johnson]] in the movie ''[[A Boy and His Dog]]''.]]
[[File:SchonauerY1903-14.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Greek Mannlicher-Schönauer Y1903/14 - 6.5x54mm Mannlicher-Schönauer]]
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[[Image:Mannlicher-Schoenauer-fullstock.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mannlicher-Schonauer - 6.5x54mm Mannlicher-Schönauer.]]
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[[Image:M-S-1903R-S.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mannlicher-Schönauer 1903 carbine with Scope - 6.5x57mm]]
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[[Image:Mannlicher-Schoenaur-Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mannlicher-Schonauer - 6.5x54mm Mannlicher-Schönauer.]]
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==From the Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 carbine page==
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17.7" barreled fast cycling bolt-action rifle chambered in 6.5x54mm feeding from a 5 shot rotary internal magazine.
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The Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 rifle or carbine was one of the first bolt action rifles heavily marketed to hunters.  It was a fast, short, light handling carbine made by exquisite craftmen.  It was exclusively chambered in 6.5x54mm for the first 45 years of production.  The Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 rifle or carbine is normally found to be full of high end features such as exquisitely grained wood, fine checkering, and engravings on the metal portions of the gun.  While there was a factory option for a single trigger, most of these rifles were made with high end double-set triggers.
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The carbine was commonly found with a full length stock. When this style of stock is used by other gun makers it is termed 'Mannlicher'.  The butter-knife bolt handle is not totally exclusive to Mannlicher-Schoenauer, but it is a key identifying feature.  This bolt handle is situated a bit further forward than normal, but this was due to the rifle's short-stroke design. This feature made the gun very fast firing.
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The carbine has a 17.7 inch barrel, and even a full length stock model weights only 5 1/2 lbs. Even though  the firearm was quite expensive, it's light weight, fast shooting characteristics, and high quality made it very popular.  Kilimanjaro Bell (the famed Ivory Hunter) was quite fond of his little Mannlicher-Schoenauer.  Another fan of this handy carbine was Ernest Hemmingway, who included the rifle by name in his short story ''The Short, Happy Life of Francis Macomber''
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==See also==
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http://www.mannlicher.org/newsletter.htm
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http://www.eschoder.com/english/englisch-reload.htm?/english/english-jagd-gewehr-waffen.htm
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Supposedly this custom gunshop is being run by the last apprentice of the famed Mannlicher-Schoenauer and has a nice history of the gun
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==Two pages about Mannlicher-Schoenauer==
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Currently we have this page and [[Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 carbine]] that overlap for such degree that ''[[White Hunter Black Heart]]'' rifle is listed on both pages, and the image of the screen used Springfield M1903 in a Mannlicher Schönauer Carbine stock from ''[[A Boy and His Dog]]'' presents on this page while the movie is listed on another one. So my question is: wouldn't it be reasonable to merge them into a single page? In such case the combined page will have sections for: 1) sporting/hunting Mannlicher-Schoenauer rifle which is more often seen on screen; and 2) Greece 1903 military rifle and carbine. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 08:04, 16 June 2022 (EDT)
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:Makes sense to me - moving the Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 carbine page's contents to this one would probably be the better move, since the 1903 carbine is a specific model, while this page is supposed to cover the entire Steyr Mannlicher-Schoenauer series. I'd certainly be okay with a merger, but I'll defer to an admin's ruling. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 10:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)
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::Complete, but cleanup is needed. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 03:21, 27 June 2022 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 07:42, 27 June 2022

Here is another photo of a later production model of the Steyr-Mannlicher Sporter. I decided since it's not of the same quality as the other photos to put it on the discussion page. However I used it on the Miami Vice page since it is similar to the one used by Jim Zubiena in the episode The Hit List from season one.--Jcordell 18:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Steyr-Mannlicher Sporter.
Springfield M1903 in a Mannlicher Schönauer Carbine stock - .30-06 This is the screen used rifle (and sling) carried and used by Don Johnson in the movie A Boy and His Dog.
Mannlicher-Schonauer - 6.5x54mm Mannlicher-Schönauer.
Mannlicher-Schönauer 1903 carbine with Scope - 6.5x57mm
Mannlicher-Schonauer - 6.5x54mm Mannlicher-Schönauer.


From the Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 carbine page

17.7" barreled fast cycling bolt-action rifle chambered in 6.5x54mm feeding from a 5 shot rotary internal magazine.

The Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 rifle or carbine was one of the first bolt action rifles heavily marketed to hunters. It was a fast, short, light handling carbine made by exquisite craftmen. It was exclusively chambered in 6.5x54mm for the first 45 years of production. The Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 rifle or carbine is normally found to be full of high end features such as exquisitely grained wood, fine checkering, and engravings on the metal portions of the gun. While there was a factory option for a single trigger, most of these rifles were made with high end double-set triggers.

The carbine was commonly found with a full length stock. When this style of stock is used by other gun makers it is termed 'Mannlicher'. The butter-knife bolt handle is not totally exclusive to Mannlicher-Schoenauer, but it is a key identifying feature. This bolt handle is situated a bit further forward than normal, but this was due to the rifle's short-stroke design. This feature made the gun very fast firing.

The carbine has a 17.7 inch barrel, and even a full length stock model weights only 5 1/2 lbs. Even though the firearm was quite expensive, it's light weight, fast shooting characteristics, and high quality made it very popular. Kilimanjaro Bell (the famed Ivory Hunter) was quite fond of his little Mannlicher-Schoenauer. Another fan of this handy carbine was Ernest Hemmingway, who included the rifle by name in his short story The Short, Happy Life of Francis Macomber

See also

http://www.mannlicher.org/newsletter.htm

http://www.eschoder.com/english/englisch-reload.htm?/english/english-jagd-gewehr-waffen.htm

Supposedly this custom gunshop is being run by the last apprentice of the famed Mannlicher-Schoenauer and has a nice history of the gun

Two pages about Mannlicher-Schoenauer

Currently we have this page and Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 carbine that overlap for such degree that White Hunter Black Heart rifle is listed on both pages, and the image of the screen used Springfield M1903 in a Mannlicher Schönauer Carbine stock from A Boy and His Dog presents on this page while the movie is listed on another one. So my question is: wouldn't it be reasonable to merge them into a single page? In such case the combined page will have sections for: 1) sporting/hunting Mannlicher-Schoenauer rifle which is more often seen on screen; and 2) Greece 1903 military rifle and carbine. --Greg-Z (talk) 08:04, 16 June 2022 (EDT)

Makes sense to me - moving the Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 carbine page's contents to this one would probably be the better move, since the 1903 carbine is a specific model, while this page is supposed to cover the entire Steyr Mannlicher-Schoenauer series. I'd certainly be okay with a merger, but I'll defer to an admin's ruling. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 10:41, 16 June 2022 (EDT)
Complete, but cleanup is needed. --Greg-Z (talk) 03:21, 27 June 2022 (EDT)

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