Talk:Red Dawn (2012)

WTH? Did a 3 year old write this page?

Well the median age of the average IMFDB user is getting lower all the time ;) MoviePropMaster2008 03:16, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I think it would be more advisable to wait until a teaser or official set photos emerge before creating this page. After all, the release date is more than nine months away. --Markit 22:07, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I fixed the page's spelling and grammar issues.

AK as seen in promo pic

Is that an AKM with black synthetic furniture? Should I take an inventory Movie AKM and put black AK74 style furniture on it and photograph it for this page? Or is the gun something else? MoviePropMaster2008 22:50, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Please do.-protoAuthor 01:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I think it may be something else. It may be something in the AK 100 series or some other varient. We need a better look at the weapons in question.Rockwolf66 01:12, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Can American armorers actually get AK-103s? I didn't think they could without difficulty. If I had to guess, the weapons in this movie are probably AKMs with synthetic furniture and AK-74 flash hiders. There was another picture posted on the forum which showed the guns more clearly, and they had the ribbed receiver covers (AK-103s come from the factory with smooth). Plus, why would armorers go to the trouble of getting AK-103s? Wouldn't it be more cost-effective to just vismod AKMs? -MT2008 01:27, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

It's more cost effective to modify existing (and registered pre-86) AKMs with AK-103 parts kits ;) Doesn't mean *I* will do it, because it's a lot of work for no current reason, but I can't see a reason why others would not be able to do so. It does NOT look like a 103 but then I have not seen better pics from the production. MoviePropMaster2008 02:11, 27 January 2010 (UTC) (correction) Title II manufacturers (Like CW) can build their own from the numerous AK receivers being built in this country and complete it with Parts kits. Again, I have no definitive indications of what these are, but there are tons of new types of AKs being imported (now only European style guns), which is a BIG change from the 1980s when there were only Chinese guns. MoviePropMaster2008 02:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Here are a few pictures of the rifles for ID(more than likely, these are non-firing props since the muzzle brakes and front sight appear to be filled in):

http://img163.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=81311432742685146627835.jpg

Also, an AKMSU with an interesting forearm:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3010/reddawnset4.jpg

I think those are probably AKMs (most likely Maadis) dressed up as AK-103s. The receivers look pretty worn...almost as though they've been in the armory's inventory for 25+ years. Although what MPM mentioned (built-up guns from parts kits) is also possible, the AK-103 resembles the AKM so closely externally (besides the furniture and flash hider) that vismoding the older gun seems like the easiest thing to do. I'll have to ask around and see if anyone knows who supplied the weapons for this show. -MT2008 04:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Fan Photos

I have a few photos that show some of the weapons seen during the film's production, but they are all unofficial pictures taken by extras/bystanders on the film set. AFAIK there are no official set pictures that have been released, so would there be any problems if I post them?--Markit 02:48, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Those are still unauthorized images. Any person can take pictures on sets. I had my camera confiscated from the set of BTTF2, because there was a lock down on ANY unauthorized images that had not been cleared through the studio. So in answer to your question: I would say not. Also undercover fan pics tend to suck in quality. But posting links to them to aid us in identifying guns is okay. But I don't want ANY movie studio lawyer seeing IMFDB as a place which holds the image on their server (which is what happens when you upload a pic). MoviePropMaster2008 03:14, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

In that case, Image:Red dawn photos 008.jpg in the main page should be removed because it is an unauthorized picture. I will also post some links on the talk page if anyone is interested. --Markit 03:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Airsoft rifles guys, they just didn't bother to use the correct 5.45mm magazines.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_91&products_id=1258

Oh, great, not the old "movies always use airsoft guns and CGI muzzle flashes" rumors again... -MT2008 05:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Who is the anonymous poster who wrote that? Also movies have and DO use Airsoft for non firing scenes, but I saw shaky, blurry, crappy bootleg video of a shootout and they were DEFINITELY rocking and rolling with blanks during one sequence. MoviePropMaster2008 07:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)