Talk:The Punisher (2004)

Now because I'm so nice, I've added screencaps of the Knives and Cars used in the film. Since I know little about either, feel free to add your own knowledge and such. With the cars, I only added the ones used by main characters, random cars passing by weren't a big deal. -GM

The following knifes were used in the film:

The Cutlery of The Punisher (2004)

Butterfly Knife

Castle takes a butterfly knife off of Joan's ex-boyfriend and uses it through out the film, notably when fighting The Russian, who turns it against him and stabs him in the shoulder. Thomas Jane was taught how to do tricks with the knife, and cleary was taught well, as he flawlessly spins the knife in the film several times.

"You shouldn't play with knives."

Castle grabs for the butterfly knife when fighting The Russian.

Castle stabs the Russian with the knife, which appears to inflict no pain on him.

The Russian pulls the knife from his shoulder and it is cleary feeding into the hilt, pushed a spring.

The Russian stabs Castle with the knife.

Kitchen Knife

Some simple kitchens knives are used in the film. Castle Sr. uses one to stab a hitter in the back and Joan is seen holding one when her ex-boyfriend is trying to get into her apartment.

Castle Sr. prepares to stab with the kitchen knife.

Castle Sr. stabs the hitter with the kitchen knife.

Joan holds a kitchen knife in her apartment.

Spring-loaded Launching Stiletto

When Harry Heck totals Castle's car, he pulls a Stiletto Knife from his ankle, which Heck remarks, "You are one dumb sonavabitch, bringin' a knife to a gunfight," to which Castle responds by launching the blade from the knife into Heck's throat. While ballistic knives do exist in real life and work somewhat well, they have much stronger springs to accurately launch the blade, while the spring strength in a modified stilleto would not likely work as well.

Castle aims the blade launching Stiletto.

Castle aims his blade launching Stiletto.

Castle fires the blade at Heck.

The knife hits Heck in the throat.

Emerson Combat Karambit

Castle uses a Emerson Karambit tiger-claw style folding blade with a satin finish to kill a thug in Saint's club.

Castle readies the Karambit.

Spyderco Harpy

A half serrated Spyderco Harpy folder is used by Lincoln and turned against him by Castle.

Looks too big to be a Harpy. It is probably a Civilian, or perhaps a different Spyderco Hawkbill style knife.

It's a Civilian. It's fully serrated as well. (most likely it would do considerably more damage against thin cheek flesh.)

Lincoln struggles to stop Castle from using his Spyderco Harpy against him.

Paper Cutter

Caslte unhooks a Paper Cutter blade from its base and uses it to kill one of the thugs guarding the apartment.

Castle examines the paper cutter.

Castle with the paper cutter blade.

Castle swings the blade into the thug's head. Here you can clearly see how graphic the scene originally was going to be before the MPAA got their hands on it.

The paper cutter blade gets stuck in the thug's head.

Stilleto Knife

Howard Saint pulls out a Stilleto knife as he tells Quintin Glass how Jim Bowie used to throw a knife to the ground and fight someone if they declared he was cheating. Accusing Glass of cheating with his wife (which Castle had tricked Saint into believing), he stabs Glass to death with the knife.

Saint pops open the Stilleto Knife.

Saint throws the Stilleto down.

Saint stabs Glass with his Stilleto.

Saint stabs Glass multiple times with his Stilleto.

Cold Steel Warhead

Castle uses two Cold Steel Warhead knives to kill Lincoln, first pinning his hand to his hip, than thrusting a knife through his chin into his brain.

These arn't really cold steel knives it's this one brand that I really want to know.

They could be Strider Knives, they look similar to the MT models, heres a link. [1] Gunner313

Castle pins Lincoln's hand to his hip with an Cold Steel Warhead knife.

Castle shoves his second Warhead blade into Lincoln's chin into his brain. It is a neat gag how the knife is actually seen through his mouth.

Lincoln falls dead.

The Vehicles of The Punisher (2004)

The following cars were used in The Punisher (2004):

Note: These are cars important to the story. No random passing cars.

Pontiac GTO

Castle uses a Pontiac GTO as his vehicle. The liscense plate reads "Year One", the company who built the car. It does not mean any reference to the fact the film is based on the "Year One" comic.

Note "Year One" liscense plate.

Note how the guy driving is wearing a safety harness.

Plymouth Road Runner

Harry Heck's car is a 1968 Plymouth Road Runner. Most easily distinguished from the front end and the nonfunctional "hood scoops" on the hood. Though this could've been a redressed Belvedere, Satellite, Coronet, or Superbee, which along with the Road Runner and GTX were essentially the same vehicle.

not a Dart

Heck smashes into Castle's GTO with his Road Runner.

Heck pulls up to Castle's totaled GTO.

Castle takes Heck's car.

Ford F-150 1981 Pickup

John Saint drives a Red Ford F-150 1981 Pickup with Dante and Spoon riding in the back and Glass in the passenger's side. He uses it to run over Will and Maria Castle.

Just two years older than my own Ford F150 I had up until a couple years ago. Spartan198 09:39, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Triumph Daytona 500

Castle hops on a Triumph in pursuit of the men chasing his wife and son.

Stunt Double.

Chevy Blazer

Maria Castle's Car.

1998 Corvette

Mike Duka's car.

Reproduction Ford GT40

A rubbish looking GT40 knockoff, barely resembles a REAL GT40, but passes as one to the casual viewer.

Pictured right.

Shelby Cobra

John Saint's Car.

Pictured left.

Jaguar XK8

Olivia Saint's car.

Bently Arnage

Howard Saint's car.

Jaguar XJR

Quinten Glass' Car

Ford Mustang

Jimmy Weeks' car is a 2004 Ford Mustang, seen in the extended cut only.

Taxi Cab

Dave is driven home from the hospital in a typical Taxi Cab. Looks to be a Chevy Lumina.

The Stevens 311

Recent observation seems to suggest that the double barrels are not Stevens 311s. Looking at the lower part of the receiver right were it meets the foregrip, there should be large indentations as seen in the Stevens picture, yet they aren't present.

Re-read the article, they have been determined to be Spanish Eibar copies, which don't feature the indentations. - Gunmaster45

Alright then, you think the notion in the paragraph is enough, or should the heading be changed to reflect that? RedJedRevolver

Also, how were they determined to be that? Could they possibly be the 311H?

Specials

Where's the Special footage from? I got the extended DVD, it doesn't have that.-protoAuthor

The special footage comes from the original theatrical release, actually. Spartan198 21:46, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I actually got that and never bothered to delete my question. I now have pretty much every version of every punisher film.-protoAuthor 00:04, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Alias Same 1911 Custom

In the Alias "Legacy" episode Michael Vartan uses a 1911 customized like the Punisher's pistols. The year of the episode is the same of the film: 2004. Maybe there is a connection... Charly Driver

Totally just thought about this

Because this picture is of Frank and his Delta buddies in the Gulf in '91, he would technically be holding a M727 or M723. God i have random thoughts. -The Winchester

Story-wise, yes. But production-wise, it could probably be the same M4 he used to shoot Saints and Sinners up, with the M203 removed, carry handle replaced, and fabric wrapping to cover the rail system. Spartan198 21:51, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Yea thats what i ment. They do get 10 points for having the guys in that pic wear the ugly and oudated 8-color chocolate chip pattern. -The Winchester

1911 Action

I was watching this movie the other day and noticed every time Castle racks his 1911's slide while not in combat it looks like he flips a switch on the front of the slide where it meets the compensator. Any ideas on what he's actually doing? If someone needs a screencap for clarification I can upload one. -Mandaloin 174.18.152.170 07:05, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

It looks like he is doing a "press check" or "brass check" to me. He grasps the front cocking serrations on the slide, pulls the slide back slightly to check to see if a round or brass is in the barrel. -Scott

Stand-alone launcher

Doesn't look like a cobray, but more like a K.A.S. system itself, the trigger and grip don't match the cobray style or placement, suggest revising.

It's niether the Cobray or the KAC or Colt standalone system... It's an RM Equipment 203PI pistol(newer than the original top folding stock version, but older than the current side folding M4 stock) Or more like the Tokyo Marui airsoft version. http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filnavn=/reviews/m203_pistol/m203_pistol_review.htm

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Micro Uzi

Micro uzis have a side folding stock and a different trigger guard, these are semi auto uzi pistols converted to full auto.

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Glock 18

I'm sure it was meant to be potrayed as a G18, but more than likely it wasn't. Probably just a G17(without even an autosear to make it shoot like a G18). Never seen a movie with a real G18...

Matrix reloaded has a real glock 18

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1911 Compensators

Are these a real model of compensator or just a Hollywood prop?

Looks real to me. -Winn

They look like the comp kit from kings gunworks.

If you mean are the compensators functional, the answer is no. Otherwise, the muzzle flash wouldn't be so huge (of course, the weapon is also firing full-flash motion picture blanks, which have more powder than live rounds). Compensators and suppressors are almost never functional in Hollywood movies; audiences like to see huge muzzle flashes. -MT2008 16:46, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

The Castle family in the "9mm vs. 45" debate...

There's a funny scene in the novel (and maybe the extended cut of the film, haven't seen it yet) where Frank makes a comment about his father's love of 1911s. Frank Sr. responds something to the effect of: "You may mock, my friend. Just don't come crying to me when you shoot a crackhead full of 9mm and he responds by breaking your pissy little Glock over your head!"

It will most likely have been in the original script which is what novels are usually written from hence they have all the deleted scenes that didn't make it into either theatrical or directors cuts. Aliens is a very good example of this as it has the deleted scene where Ripley finds Burke and gives him a grenade to kill himself with. That scene is in neither the theatrical or the "special edition" director's cut. --cool-breeze 15:25, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Mossberg 500/Armscor

I'm pretty sure the weapon listed as a Mossberg 500 is actually a cut down Armscor shotgun. This notion was entertained awhile back with a small caption at the beginning of the listing, but it was taken down and never placed in here to properly be analyzed. There are some additional movies that probably feature the same gun, but the only one I can remember was Red Dragon. My arguments are these: first, the safety placement is on the front of the trigger guard, not behind the chamber, and secondly, there seems to be a checkered pattern imprinted on the bolt, both of which are unique features of Armscor shotguns. Should the entry be changed? --ZeoRanger5 04:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC)