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Talk:Perfect Dark
Okay. Clean slate. If you must argue, argue here and not on the gun page itself. Okay? Please refrain from making changes until they have been discussed. That is the name, and therefore purpose of the discussion page. Also, please don't delete this off hand yet, okay? I did spend a fair amount of time taking screenshots, and a slightly greater time writing pithy stuff about guns. Thanks. --ManiacallyChallenged 01:04, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Super Dragon
I just wanted to let people know that I took the liberty to talk about the 1986 film Aliens pulse rife in this section because the similarities are to big to be ignored. Look for yourself. (6/26/2010)
Laptop Gun
Nice page, i recently got addicted to this game. but what real firearm would the laptop gun be based on?
- Nothing. Read the in-game description. It unfolds, boots up, etc. Can be a sentry gun with a gatling barrel. What have you. Does that sound like a real gun? It may have been based on another fictional gun in a different show or movie, but that doesn't really count. --ManiacallyChallenged 20:36, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, that's not quite true, the Laptop gun could have been loosely based off the Russian PP-90 or the American Ares FMG which was mean't to fold up into a sort of case. They likely just added the Sentry gun as a cool secondary mode and modified it to look more like a laptop to make it look more futuristic. Draco122 20:05, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Perfect Dark XBLA
Uhh If anyone could post Perfect Dark Xbox live Arcade Pictures, that would be great.
- Did that add anything new? --ManiacallyChallenged
- I Played the demo, and the main differences seem to be in the character models. The weapons don't look that much different. --Funkychinaman 14:33, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
No new Perfect Dark HD Version wasn't Added, If anyone could please post the Xbox 360 verisons, that would be great!, I heard that the graphics is astounding, accept the enemy Al, the wacky aim system, and the Storyline (which is the same)
- The 360 version is a different game, Perfect Dark Zero. It has it's own page. The graphics were average, and everything else was terrible. --ManiacallyChallenged
- They re-released Perfect Dark for Xbox Live Arcade. No one is talking about PDZ --SPARTAN B657 00:49, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Perfect Dark XBLA was released March 17, 2010. It is a direct port of Perfect Dark (N64) but features new surface textures and redone gun and character models. All of the screens on this page should be replaced with the high rez versions from Perfect Dark XBLA. Rareware has stated that the port features gun models the way they would have liked them to look if N64 technology would allow. [Bladerunner07]6/26/10
I looked online and got a few shots, and yeah, they're clearer models, but clearer models of what? --funkychinaman 16:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
RCP-120
It only very superficially resembles a Muzzlelite. If anything thinking the RCP-120 is a muzzelite is simply the result of an overactive imagination. The goal of this site is to find the weapon that the PD weapon was based off, not to find a weapon that superficially resembles it and claiming that it is what the RCP-120 is. --AdAstra2009 19:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- The RCP-120 was the successor to the RC-P90 in Goldeneye, which was based on the FN P90. --Funkychinaman 22:04, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- So until it can be determined/decided what the gun may actually be based off of, it's completely unacceptable even to merely point out it does resemble a Muzzelite to a fair degree? Or even to state how it could be based off a Muzzelite, and that that point can be discussed? The Dragon below it still has text in it along those lines. StanTheMan 01:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
K7 Avenger
For the record, I myself agree the weapon very much resembles (and even could be based off) the Starship Troopers Morita carbine (The officer's rifle, without the Ithaca shotgun). StanTheMan 02:21, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I am putting my foot down because pages like these cannot be ignored for long
We don't know if they are actually based on any guns at all. Sure they LOOK like guns we've seen, but mostly this is an old game and it's hard to tell. We should just delete the guns that just aren't real. Excalibur01 17:48, 7 October 2011 (CDT)
- Um, that's as obvious a WA2000 as you're ever going to get with N64 graphics. Last I checked even AdAstra never disagreed with that ID. You're overreacting. Evil Tim 17:59, 7 October 2011 (CDT)
It does not look like a WA2000 at all. I might as well continue ignoring this page solely on the fact that it is on a console that is old and the graphics back then are subpar compared to today, but it just looks so awkward that it can't be a WA2000. And if you disagree with me on that, what about the others I deleted? They don't look like anything real Excalibur01 18:03, 7 October 2011 (CDT)
- Got a shot from the side here that should make more it obvious than it is in first person:
- Same general layout, same grip, same distinctive rectangular frame around the lower part of the barrel. Aside from a texture that makes it look like part of a steam engine and a silly scope, it's basically the same weapon. The others I mostly agree with, I'll give you a bulleted list when I get home from work. Evil Tim 20:32, 7 October 2011 (CDT)
- Ok, here goes:
- Laptop Gun: I kinda see where this is coming from (which makes sense, since I was the one who made the connection in the first place) but it shouldn't be labelled as a UC-M21; it's pretty obvious they based it on Hob's gun from Robocop 2, but it's based on it conceptually ("let's have a gun that folds up like that one in Robocop"), it doesn't actually look like it at all. It might be worth keeping it just to make note of the connection (they got the idea from here, but did not base the weapon's looks on a real gun) but that's about it.
- RCP-120: Yeah, that doesn't look like a P90, and "based on a gun based on a P90" doesn't really fly when even the original didn't look much like a P90.
- Dragon: It's a pulse rifle because it's green and has a carrying handle. That's about as far as that one goes.
- K7: I kinda agree with the Morita resemblance, but it's like the sniper rifle, you really can't see it except on the item menu, and in the K7's case it's a pretty loose resemblance even then.
- Shotgun: I have no idea how that is supposed to resemble a SPAS.
- I'd say definitely restore the sniper rifle and I can get you a better screencap if that one isn't clear enough (it's even called the CI2010 in the manual, it's one of the most clearly real guns in the game) and I'm in two minds about a couple of the others, but definitely leave off the RCP-120, Dragon and Shotgun. Evil Tim 01:08, 8 October 2011 (CDT)
Walther PPK aka PP9i is chambered in .32 ACP, not .380
In the Goldeneye Movie, and I quote this from this link on this site: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/GoldenEye
"Walther PPK, Seven-Point-Six-Five-Millimeter. Only three men I know use such a gun. I believe I've killed two of them." -Valentin Zukovsky to James Bond.
.32 ACP is the same as 7.65 mm Browning as explained here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.32_ACP
The PP9i is based off the PP7 which is the .32 ACP PPK from the Goldeneye movie.
The caliber on this page is inaccurate and must be changed here and on the Goldeneye 007 page. RugerLord 14:10, 8 April 2012 (CDT)