Talk:M1 Garand

M1C Garand and M1D Garand

Ok, I made a youtube video last year and it was a montage of all the weapons in Call of Duty: World at War (It had real-world pictures, and the only ingame pictures were "fictional" guns, or weapons that I couldn't find a real-world look-a-like of. Anyways, I got a comment 5 months ago. The comment was "Is it a M1C or D Garand? And the Kabar (Not Ka-Bar)wasn't exactly used in this game. I did correct the commentor on his knife mistake, but I am still confused by his first question. Is there three different models of an M1 Garand, or only two? And I thought the M1C and M1D were sniper variants? - User:1morey August 7, 2011 5:42 PM (EST)

BM59

we should add the BM59 to the article. The BM59 is an Italian licensed copy of the M1 Garand.--Gunner5

We have a separate Beretta BM59 page because it is a significant modification of the M1 Garand that goes beyond being a mere copy. --Markit 20:48, 7 September 2011 (CDT)

Oh, ok, sorry, didnt notice that. Gunner5

M1's in Brazil and Argentina

So I heard that in the 60's Argentina received about 30,000 M1s from the U.S and were converted to accept magazines that were for the Beretta BM59 while Brazil got them in the 50s from the U.S. government and were converted to 7.62x51mm NATO and modified to accept mags from the FN FAL. Is any of this true? -Mr.Ice

Doesn't sound so legit to me. Argentina's armed force had enough budget to even develop a jet during its 50s. There's no reason for them to receive surplus weapon from the United State. And also, modifying seem to take much time and money to modify M1 Garand since barrel probably should be changed to receive NATO 7.62mm. And other thing is that Angentine force was seen using FN FAL during the Falklands war. -Mamaya94

I agree with Mamaya94sounds like more internet misinformation. Why would Argentina want 30,000 M1's when they make a licensed copy of the Best Battle Rifle in the Free World? It would take a tremendous amount of work to convert a Garand to use 7.62x51 NATO and FAL mags. Why? I think someone saw Beretta BM59's an thought up that info not realizing the differance between the two. The Internet good and bad info rolled into one.--phoenixent 19:11, 11 May 2012 (CDT)

Yeah I kinda knew it but wasn't sure. Im just wondering how exactly an M1 would look with a FAL mag. But what about Brazil did they resive any M1s? Mr.Ice

I think it's the same story as the Argentine Garands just changed to add to the story. It seems to me by searching the net it all the same story so it came from one source. Brazil adopted the FAL in 1964 as there rifle with FN setting up a factory in a trade for coffee production so when did there Garands arrive in Brazil.Why would they convert them if they are already building the FAL? Also there has been no photos that have surfaced of this Brazilian conversion but. Since that kind of work would be done at a Government armory the rifles would have come out with a government crest as did the Colt 1927 pistols made down there and the one rebuilt. My father was involved in the manufacture of BM59's out of demilled M1 and there was a ton of work that was done to the receiver alone not to mention the trigger housing. That is why Beretta who made M1 Garands built all new tooling and made new BM59 and not convert the old M1. I am sure the Italian government looked into that to save some money.--phoenixent 12:36, 12 May 2012 (CDT)

The "rifle that won WWII"?

I've heard of people gushing about this battle rifle in that manner (which, if you think a little about it, is manifestly false--soldiers with M1 Garands alone would not have been sufficient to win the day even on D-Day), but I'd like to know just why it's called this way. Is it because it was a mass-produced and standard-issue semiautomatic battle rifle, while virtually every other faction in WWII used bolt-action battle rifles? I suppose the faster rate of fire would have been a tactical advantage, but other WWII armies (such as the Russians or the British) did fairly well against the WWII Germans without standard-issue semiautomatic battle rifles. It'd be interesting to see how the WWII American forces would have done without the M1 Garand/Carbine, especially if they had to use their older M1903 Springfield Rifles and Carbines instead (they'd still have their SMGs in that scenario) to match the standard-issue rifles of the other major WWII players. --Mazryonh (talk) 00:29, 15 January 2013 (EST)