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[[Image:NavySeals BerettaInoxA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ramos holds a Beretta Inox in addition to his MP5SD3 - 9mm]] | [[Image:NavySeals BerettaInoxA.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ramos holds a Beretta Inox in addition to his MP5SD3 - 9mm]] | ||
::This also looks like a 92SB, see the rounded trigger guard? Is the gun actually stainless or was this just a shot showing the gun's shine? I haven't seen the movie so I wouldn't know. (But I will watch it soon.) | ::This also looks like a 92SB, see the rounded trigger guard? Is the gun actually stainless or was this just a shot showing the gun's shine? I haven't seen the movie so I wouldn't know. (But I will watch it soon.) | ||
| + | ::Uh there is no way in hell a Beretta would shine like that from ANY angle if it weren't "silver". | ||
==[[SIG P210]]== | ==[[SIG P210]]== | ||
Revision as of 05:23, 15 August 2008
The following guns were used in the film Navy SEALs
Beretta M92SB
The Airforce adopted Beretta M92SB was used as the standard side arm by the SEALs. (which is stange as they should use the older M9 like it was noted before, not the old airforce Beretta pistol)
Stainless Beretta M92FS (Inox)
Ramos (Paul Sanchez) carries a Beretta Inox as a secondary weapon during the first raid. Somewhat unlikely since a SEAL team member would not carry a weapon that's so flashy in a night raid.
- This also looks like a 92SB, see the rounded trigger guard? Is the gun actually stainless or was this just a shot showing the gun's shine? I haven't seen the movie so I wouldn't know. (But I will watch it soon.)
- Uh there is no way in hell a Beretta would shine like that from ANY angle if it weren't "silver".
SIG P210
Used by a terrorist to execute a SIG P210 Pistol of the American Helicopter Crewmen.
Skorpion SA Vz 61
Terrorist on the Merchant ship holds a woman hostage with a Skorpion pistol, though it is never fired.
Heckler & Koch MP5SD3
Used by the SEALs during the hostage rescue mission, On the Vehicle Board Search and Seizure and the mission in which they "kidnapped" the collaborator.
- These SDs seem to have had their grips removed.
MP5K
Used by at least one of the SEALs during the hostage rescue mission, and later during training.
Remington 870
Used by Hawkins (Charlie Sheen) as a backup weapon and door breach gun.
Colt Commando
Used in three scenes in the movie, carried with an M203 in the mission where chief is killed. The most obvious shot is one where Lt. Curran (Michael Biehn) is carrying one. This movie is one of the very few films where we see an actual XM177 or GAU-5/A rifle (or a very close copy, being that the sound suppressor/flashhiders of the original XM177 were not good for blank firing guns, so many times an existing M16 rifle was custom modified to resemble the XM177. In the 1980s there were a slew of various aftermarket XM177 style flash hiders - some were very accurate, some were not.) At any rate, this is one of the most accurate portrayal of an XM177 in modern U.S. Cinema.
Barrett M82
Used by Dane, Callsign "God", (Bill Paxton), the SEAL sniper to engage four targets during the hostage rescue mission and again during the Beirut mission. The weapon used is the first model Barrett, the M82 (the same used in the film RoboCop), outfitted with a Thermal Imaging Sight and a Night Vision Sight. The later version M82A1 is the most recognizable version of the semiautomatic Barrett Light Fifty rifle.
Contrary to popular belief SEALs do utilize the M82 .50 cal rifle for long range, and vehicle interdiction missions.
RPG-7
The RPG-7 is a rocket propelled grenade launcher used by the terrorists. The rockets show two distinct paint schemes, a darker green paint job, flaking off showing the original yellowish/OD Russian paint underneath.
AK-47
Shaheed's militia use both AKMs and what looks to be original AK47s. They appear to be milled receiver AKs with Russian Front sights and double tang back ends with the typical 'drop down' angled buttstock and the swivel sling on the body, not the stock. They could have been Poly-Technology Legend series of AKs that were imported during the 1980s (this movie was shot in 1989 and released in 1990) but the Legend series of rifles were of the Type 56 "Pig Sticker" bayonet style. Like in the more recent movie We Were Soldiers the armorers could have used Milled receiver bodies and assembled AKs from Russian Parts kits. Since this film was done in the 1980s when real Soviet/Russian weapons parts were illegal to import, they could have fabricated the parts themselves. Also the sequence that was supposed to be Beirut was shot in Spain, and the production could have used weapons provided by European Armorers (who at the time had no restrictions on acquiring Soviet/Russian guns)
AKS-47
The underfolding version of the AK-47 (also sometimes referred to as the AK47 Type 3B (Type 3 indicating type of receiver and B indicating folding metal stock). The underfolding AKS-47s in the movie are milled receiver Russian type guns, one of the few times we actually see real AK-47s (or really close copies) in a U.S. made film.
AKMS
Used extensively during the Beirut Mission by both SEALs and the Opposition Force fighters, the AKMS is the underfolding version of the AKM rifle. These could be converted Maadi ARM/MISR rifles imported into the U.S. or real Russian rifles provided by European Armory houses for the filming in Spain.
- Those look like Polish kBk AKMS clones to me.
- Polish guns weren't being imported into the U.S. in the 1980s. they only started importing guns or parts kits after the fall of the Iron Curtain.
Chinese NMD-83
In the 1980s, there were two Chinese imported versions of the RPK (none of which looked very good).
- Not to be confused with the Yugo RPKs imported by Mitchell Arms or the Maadi RPK clones, nor the Norinco NHM-91 which was a post 1989 import gun with a thumbhole stock and no barrel threads.
One of the pre-1989 ban guns was the NMD-83 - it had a 21" barrel, a standard AK stock and a muzzle brake (none of which was accurate for the RPK). They also imported a second RPK clone (whose name escape me) that had a Chinese style club foot stock but placed the bipod BEFORE (!!) the front sight, not after it, affixed to a long muzzle brake. This also looked atrocious and not many were sold. Not sure about the exact names of the Chinese RPK clones, since they didn't sell very well (hopefully someone who actually has a pre-1989 gun can let us know the exact name).
In the film, Leary (Rick Rossovich) carries what is supposed to be an RPK light machine gun. It appears to be a modified NMD-83 rifle converted to full auto fire. The barrel was lengthened from 21" to 23.25" which is more correct and the muzzle brake was removed. The short bipod was removed and a longer (though tubular, not rectangular) Chinese Bipod was attached (see pic). The Chinese Style front sight with the enclosed top hood was still used. Errors in the gun's modification are (a) the barrel is not an RPK heavy barrel but a long standard AK barrel, (b) The front foregrip is still a standard AK, in fact it's a Chinese Type 56 style, with the slot for the pig sticker bayonet, which is wrong, (c) the buttstock is the Chinese style clubfoot stock, not the thicker, more angular Russian RPK stock and (d) the receiver appears to be a standard Type 56 stamped receiver without the reinforcing bar of the RPK.
