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==M4A1==
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When Jim Davis ([[Christian Bale]]) is having military flashbacks to his days as an Army Ranger in Afghanistan, many of the Rangers in the flashbacks are armed with [[M4A1]] carbines. All the M4s are fitted with forward hand grips, Aimpoint M68 sights, AN/PEQs, and flashlights.
  
If nobody minds, I will start working on this page more tomorrow (screencaps included). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]
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[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with standard (non-LE) stock 5.56mm]]
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==Colt Model 933==
  
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During Jim's military flashback, one of the Rangers is armed with a [[M16 rifle series#Colt Model 933|Colt Model 933]] (otherwise known as the "M4 Commando") fitted with forward hand grip, Aimpoint M68 sight, AN/PEQs, and flashlight.
  
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[[Image:Colt m4 commando 03.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Colt Model 933 5.56mm]]
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This gun makes it's appearance in the beginning of the movie when Jim ([[Christian Bale]]) is having military flashbacks. Many of Jim's fellow Rangers are also seen armed with M4A1 rifles. All the M4s are fitted with foreward handgrips, Aimpoint M68 sights, AN/PEQs, and flashlights.
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==M249 SAW==
  
==Colt Model 933==
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Another weapon which Jim sees in his Afghanistan flashbacks is the [[M249 SAW|M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW)]].
During Jim's military flashback he is armed with an [[M16|Colt Model 933]] fitted with foreward handgrips, Aimpoint M68 sight, AN/PEQs, and flashlights.
 
  
==M249 SAW==
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[[Image:Fn_m249saw_mk2_10-1-.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M249-E2 SAW - upgraded M249 with heat shield and full synthetic Stock - 5.56mm with 200 round ammo drum.]]
During the military flashback in the beginning of the film. One of Jim's fellow Rangers is armed with an M249 SAW machinegun.
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==Unknown AK rifle (Norinco Type 56?)==
  
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The Taliban fighters who get killed by Jim and his fellow Rangers are armed with [[AK-47|AK]]-type assault rifles which are most likely the [[Norinco Type 56]], the most common AK seen in movies and TV shows (and also, ironically, the most common AK-type rifle used by the Taliban in real life).
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[[Image:Type56Standard.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 (fixed stock variant) - 7.62x39mm]]
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==RPK (?)==
  
Jim tells Mike to pop the trunk so he can "handle this" Then Mike throws the 5904 to Jim so he can get the drop on Flaco's and his crew. It is also the gun Jim uses for the duration in the movie, to threaten his girlfriend with upon finding out she is pregnant, along with threating Mike with it when his PTSD kicks in, to finally using it to kill Flaco and his crew. At the very end of the film this pistol is used by Mike to shoot and kill Jim, per under his request to end his suffering from being paralyzed by a shotgun wound.
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An [[RPK]]-type light machine gun is visible in the scene where Jim and his fellow Rangers are engaging Taliban militants, but it is not seen clearly enough to be sure. It is possible that this is a [[Valmet M78]], which has very often been used to impersonate the RPK in American movies, but it doesn't seem to have the distinctive three-prong flash hider of the M78. It's also likely that this might be one of the semi-auto Norinco copies that were sold in the U.S.
  
Also I see it was noted to being a 915 but the gun IS a Smith and Wesson 5904. Give aways are that the sights are low novak type, same as the 5906, also it has an ambi decocker, which is also shared by the 5906. The 915, has standard iron sights, along with a decocker that is only located on the right side. The gun is a 5904.
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[[Image:800px-RPK DD-ST-85-01265.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPK light machine gun 7.62x39mm]]
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==Type 69 RPG==
  
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A [[Type 69 RPG]] (the Chinese copy of the [[RPG-7]] is visible in the scene where Jim is fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan. It is not seen clearly, but the weapon seems to have the thicker heat shield of the Type 69.
  
[[Image:AK-47.jpg|thumb|350px|none|AK-47 7.62x39mm]]
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==Smith & Wesson 5904/915==
  
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Throughout the movie, Jim uses a Smith & Wesson semi-automatic pistol which changes models repeatedly, depending on the scene. When he uses the S&W to rob Flaco ([[Noel Gugliemi]]) and his crew, it is a newer-model [[Smith & Wesson 5904]] with a rounded trigger guard and the Novak-type sights. However, at the end of the film, when Jim draws the S&W on Flaco again, and later when Mike uses the gun, it clearly has the standard iron type sights and right side-only safety, which would make it a [[Smith & Wesson 915]]. Also, when Jim gets angry and points the gun at Mike, it seems to have the squared trigger guard of the older-model 5904. In other words, at least three different guns are used to represent Jim's pistol. This is a continuity error.
  
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[[Image:S&W-5904-Early-RIGHT.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Early Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm.  This has the finger step contoured trigger guard that would later be replaced by the round trigger guard.]]
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[[Image:S&W5904LateModel.jpg‎ |thumb|none|300px|Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm.  The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.]]
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[[Image:S&W915.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Smith & Wesson Model 915 - 9mm. This model is similar to the 5904, but the decocker is not ambidextrous and the sights are standard iron sights rather than the Novak type.]]
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[[Image:Ht10.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Jim holds his S&W on Flaco and crew. In this scene, the gun is quite clearly a newer-model 5904 with the rounded trigger guard.]]
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[[Image:Harshtimes 7.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Another view of Jim holding the S&W 5904 on Flaco. Note the ambidextrous safety and Novak sights, as well as the rounded trigger guard.]]
  
==Beretta M9==
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During the military flashback scene, Jim ([[Christian Bale]]) uses the Army issued Beretta M9 pistol to finish off two remaining isurgence during the flashback scene.
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==Ruger KP94==
  
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When Jim and Mike rob Flaco and his crew, they take a paper bag containing a [[Ruger P94|Ruger KP94]] pistol. After this, Jim and Mike spend much of the film driving around and trying to sell the gun to various gang members, cops, and other such characters for $300. Jim even refers to the gun as a "Ruger P94" repeatedly throughout the film whenever he's trying to sell it to people. He also says it's a "good fuckin' gun" when he first takes it out.
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==Beretta 92FS==
 
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Early in the film, in his military flashback dreams, Jim kills a Taliban militant with a [[Beretta 92FS]], standing in for the Army-issue M9 pistol. The Beretta 92FS is also used by the cops who pull Jim and Mike over while they're driving around with open alcohol containers and guns in their car.
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Early in the film, while Jim and Mike are leaving a Korean-owned convenience store after buying beers and cigarettes, they see a gang member run by shooting at another gang member. The owner of the convenience store comes out with a [[Heckler & Koch USP Tactical]] after hearing the disturbance. (It should be noted that the USP Tactical would be banned in California, where the movie takes places, because the threaded barrel would classify the gun as an "assault weapon" under California's gun laws).
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==Colt Python==
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When Jim confronts Flaco at the end of the film, Flaco draws a 4" [[Colt Python]] on him.
  
Seen in the hands of the cops that pull Jim and Mike over.
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==SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper==
  
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At the end of the film, when Jim and Mike flee the scene where Flaco is shot, another drug dealer comes out of the house nearby and fires at their car with an [[Armsel Striker and variants#SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper|SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper]] cylinder shotgun.
You see this gun in the movie when Jim and Mike rob Flaco's car. After which Jim and Mike try to sell the gun for $300 to various gang members, cops, and drug users. Due to Mike saying he dosen't want it, because he will "use it."
 
  
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Revision as of 19:15, 15 March 2009

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The following guns were used in the movie Harsh Times:






M4A1

When Jim Davis (Christian Bale) is having military flashbacks to his days as an Army Ranger in Afghanistan, many of the Rangers in the flashbacks are armed with M4A1 carbines. All the M4s are fitted with forward hand grips, Aimpoint M68 sights, AN/PEQs, and flashlights.

Colt M4A1 Carbine with standard (non-LE) stock 5.56mm


Colt Model 933

During Jim's military flashback, one of the Rangers is armed with a Colt Model 933 (otherwise known as the "M4 Commando") fitted with forward hand grip, Aimpoint M68 sight, AN/PEQs, and flashlight.

Colt Model 933 5.56mm


M249 SAW

Another weapon which Jim sees in his Afghanistan flashbacks is the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW).

M249-E2 SAW - upgraded M249 with heat shield and full synthetic Stock - 5.56mm with 200 round ammo drum.


Unknown AK rifle (Norinco Type 56?)

The Taliban fighters who get killed by Jim and his fellow Rangers are armed with AK-type assault rifles which are most likely the Norinco Type 56, the most common AK seen in movies and TV shows (and also, ironically, the most common AK-type rifle used by the Taliban in real life).

Norinco Type 56 (fixed stock variant) - 7.62x39mm


RPK (?)

An RPK-type light machine gun is visible in the scene where Jim and his fellow Rangers are engaging Taliban militants, but it is not seen clearly enough to be sure. It is possible that this is a Valmet M78, which has very often been used to impersonate the RPK in American movies, but it doesn't seem to have the distinctive three-prong flash hider of the M78. It's also likely that this might be one of the semi-auto Norinco copies that were sold in the U.S.

File:800px-RPK DD-ST-85-01265.jpg
RPK light machine gun 7.62x39mm


Type 69 RPG

A Type 69 RPG (the Chinese copy of the RPG-7 is visible in the scene where Jim is fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan. It is not seen clearly, but the weapon seems to have the thicker heat shield of the Type 69.

Chinese Type 69 RPG


Smith & Wesson 5904/915

Throughout the movie, Jim uses a Smith & Wesson semi-automatic pistol which changes models repeatedly, depending on the scene. When he uses the S&W to rob Flaco (Noel Gugliemi) and his crew, it is a newer-model Smith & Wesson 5904 with a rounded trigger guard and the Novak-type sights. However, at the end of the film, when Jim draws the S&W on Flaco again, and later when Mike uses the gun, it clearly has the standard iron type sights and right side-only safety, which would make it a Smith & Wesson 915. Also, when Jim gets angry and points the gun at Mike, it seems to have the squared trigger guard of the older-model 5904. In other words, at least three different guns are used to represent Jim's pistol. This is a continuity error.

Early Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. This has the finger step contoured trigger guard that would later be replaced by the round trigger guard.
Late Model Smith & Wesson 5904 - 9mm. The early model 5904 pistols had the finger step trigger guard, but S&W changed it to the rounded trigger guard for 'ease of production'.
Smith & Wesson Model 915 - 9mm. This model is similar to the 5904, but the decocker is not ambidextrous and the sights are standard iron sights rather than the Novak type.
Jim holds his S&W on Flaco and crew. In this scene, the gun is quite clearly a newer-model 5904 with the rounded trigger guard.
Another view of Jim holding the S&W 5904 on Flaco. Note the ambidextrous safety and Novak sights, as well as the rounded trigger guard.


Ruger KP94

When Jim and Mike rob Flaco and his crew, they take a paper bag containing a Ruger KP94 pistol. After this, Jim and Mike spend much of the film driving around and trying to sell the gun to various gang members, cops, and other such characters for $300. Jim even refers to the gun as a "Ruger P94" repeatedly throughout the film whenever he's trying to sell it to people. He also says it's a "good fuckin' gun" when he first takes it out.

Beretta 92FS

Early in the film, in his military flashback dreams, Jim kills a Taliban militant with a Beretta 92FS, standing in for the Army-issue M9 pistol. The Beretta 92FS is also used by the cops who pull Jim and Mike over while they're driving around with open alcohol containers and guns in their car.

Beretta 92FS 9mm


Heckler & Koch USP Tactical

Early in the film, while Jim and Mike are leaving a Korean-owned convenience store after buying beers and cigarettes, they see a gang member run by shooting at another gang member. The owner of the convenience store comes out with a Heckler & Koch USP Tactical after hearing the disturbance. (It should be noted that the USP Tactical would be banned in California, where the movie takes places, because the threaded barrel would classify the gun as an "assault weapon" under California's gun laws).

H&K USP Tactical .45 ACP


Colt Python

When Jim confronts Flaco at the end of the film, Flaco draws a 4" Colt Python on him.

Colt Python with 4" Barrel - .357 Magnum


SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper

At the end of the film, when Jim and Mike flee the scene where Flaco is shot, another drug dealer comes out of the house nearby and fires at their car with an SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper cylinder shotgun.

SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper 12-gauge




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