Talk:Max Payne 3

The Beretta 92FS semi-automatic pistol

I wonder if it will make an appearance in Max Payne 3 as a usable gun. 203.59.124.247 12:53, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I guess it could appear in a flashbacks.But I really doubt it. Littlesoldier1 11:30, 6 March 2012 (CST)

It sadly isn't but it's Brazilian Waxed cousin the Taurus PT92 is. - LaFarge

Unidentified guns

Is either an Inox or Desert Eagle

The Pistol Payne is holding in the first picture is an Desert Eagle. I don't know what that shotgun is though.-Oliveira 11:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

AK47

I've just re-examined the six released pictures with the visual equivalent of a fine tooth pick, and can't see an AK47 anywhere. All the gangsters clearly have single-handed weapons - though I would put my last buck on there being an AK varient in-game, there is currently no visual proof at all, so I've deleted the section. If someone would point it out to me, I will be more than glad to re-do the AK47 section I've just deleted. Take care and remember to eat all your veggies. Tec-9 02:29, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Appologies everyone, I just been doing some research, and there is a picture of an AK-47 in the Game Informer Magazine's section on Max Payne 3, not the actual released photos. Here is the Link: http://www.gossipgamers.com/max-payne-3-details-high-res-scans/ Tec-9 15:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Pictures uploaded by user SB2296. Thanks very much for that my friend. :) Tec-9 21:06, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Taurus PT92

I think the Beretta 92FS's may be Taurus PT92's.Needs confirmation.-SB2296

So when did Max turn into Charlie Bronson with a big stupid beard? Vangelis 13:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

When he went to Sao Paulo to kick some Brazilian Ass and take names that's when.-Oliveira 13:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

12 long years of alcoholism and painkiller addiction and abuse (hah, never though I'd see this day coming. I was thinking that the first time I started playing the Max Payne demo and seeing how many painkillers he consumes), that's when. :D Tec-9 00:18, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

HEY! Don't bad mouth Bronson. If he were alive to hear you, he would tear your lungs out-S&Wshooter 00:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Wrong Bronson. I was talking about this one. Stick "Charlie Bronson" (not Charles) into Google and you'll see what I mean in the image results; he is a bald man who is huge and typically has an enormous silly beard. He looks sort of like a real-life Doctor Robotnik. Vangelis2 16:03, 6 April 2011 (CDT)

By the way, I think that's a MAC-11, not 10. Either that or Max's hands are HUGE. -protoAuthor

I think it' a Mac-11 too, because of those horizintal lines on the sides of the gun. I'm no gun expert, but I'm sure they're only on a Mac-11 - I was checking what it was just the other day on wikipedia. TC. Tec-9 00:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

They're on both, actually. And I'll check the size of it in the final version, though Max's hands are pretty damn huge. Evil Tim 13:52, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

At one point, Max duct-tapes an empty bottle to the barrel of his PT92 as a make-shift silencer, should that be added to the page?Kornflakes89 00:28, 19 May 2012 (CDT)

Unknown Revolver

Does anyone know which chrome revolver is that in Max's left hand?Looks like a Taurus but the image is too small to guess the correct one.--SB2296 05:19, 17 April 2011 (CDT)

Could be a Smith & Wesson of sort, or a Colt Police Positive maybe, I would need a bigger pic. :( Wow, is that Max's new model? I guess enough people fussed about the original bald-bearded angry Mexican design. :D - Mr. Wolf 07:07, 17 April 2011 (CDT)

This game's been in development so long that beardy Max died before he could be in it and this is his brother Ernie. Evil Tim 07:37, 17 April 2011 (CDT)

Apparently, both Max's are in the game, baldy, and hairy, supposedly hairy Max is in flash backs, but hopefully, baldy Max is only played during an under cover level then you switch back to hairy max, if that's not the case, might as well rename him Bruce Willis. Kornflakes89 03:54, 21 April 2011 (CDT)

Actually, now that I've looked at the pics more, I don't see much wrong with his new model (both hairy Max and baldy Max) because I can still see his original face from when he was younger. - Mr. Wolf 16:00, 23 April 2011 (CDT)

His face has changed 3 times, i.e in every game max looks different, so I dont recognize him. There are a few new screens on the official max payne 3 page, including the one above but in better resolution... might help to identify the revolver. - Scott, 23. April, happy holidays!!!

My guess is that it is a Smith and Wesson, 44 special; either a Triple lock, or a Hand Ejector III, Model of 1926. Another possiblity is that it is a more modern reproduction 44 Special, a Model 21. It could be a 38/44 Heavy Duty (38 Special), or finally a Model 22 (.45 ACP with moon clips). Those are all the Smiths that have a half moon front sight and a barrel partial underlug (shrouded ejector). Model 10's lack the ejector shroud, and there are no .357's or .44 magnums with a half moon front sight. In fact, no "magnum" capable revolvers at all have a half moon front sight. The gun is also pretty big, representing an N frame. Axel Kane, 11 May 2011.

My guess is a Smith & Wesson Model 20. - Mr. Wolf 21:05, 11 May 2011 (CDT)

Well the Model 20 is essentially the same as the 38/44 Heavy Duty, but after 1957 it was assigned a Model number rather than the title "Heavy Duty". It fires a .38 caliber bullet but was built on the Hand Ejector .44 Special (N) frame, in order to accomodate the "High Velocity" .38 Special cartridge, which was the precursor to the .357 magnum (hence the term, 38/44). One reason that I don't believe the picture is a Model 21 is that the grip appears to be a square butt, whereas the grip of a Model 21 is round. Axel Kane, 11 May 2011

I studied the picture more closely with it zoomed in. You can make out the size of the bore, and it is undoubtedly a big caliber. This would tend to rule out the 38/44 or Model 20. I would have to go with either a .44 Special or a .45. There are heavy duties out there converted to .45 long colt, however. Axel Kane, 12 May 2011

It could be a .44 Special of 1950, which is a "Pre Model 21", different from the Model 21 in that it has a square butt grip. In any case, it appears to be one of the "Hand Ejector series", characterized by an N frame, "pencil" barrel, half moon front sight, "duty", or fixed, rear sight, shrouded ejector, and a magna style grip with a square butt. Axel Kane, 14 May 2011.

The revolver is now listed as a Smith and Wesson Model 10. I beg to differ. There was never a Model 10 that was produced that had a shrouded ejector. The closest to it would be to that is the "Heavy Duty" or the Model 20 (essentially the same thing).

I agree with you. The front sight also is not the type found on a Model 10 heavy barrel.--Phillb36 17:39, 11 March 2012 (CDT)

Glock

I changed the G17 to G18 because on the first picture that is clearly a G18. I highly doubt that there will be a G18 and a G17, especially a G17+G18 akimbo combination. bozitojugg3rn4ut 10:11, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

Wow, your right, nice catch. - Mr. Wolf 10:41, 24 May 2011 (CDT)

Is it me or does it look like the G18 has a hammer on it? Fixer

Interestiing. :) I think it's some sort of texture fail,or.. hm.That's definitely looks weird. Littlesoldier1 16:17, 10 March 2012 (CST)

Unknown SMG

Could that maybe be a FAMAE SAF? Or perhaps the Brazilian version, the Taurus MT-9, considering the setting? Jimmoy 13:03, 14 September 2011 (CDT)

I thought it could be a FAMAE as well, but I saw the new trailer "Going After the Girl", and now I don't think so. There are a couple of good shots of this gun in the trailer, and it most closely resembles an MP5/40, although the front site looks like the type found on a FAMAE--Phillb36 16:02, 19 February 2012 (CST)

1911

just saw the new gameplay video they released, at about 2:20 to 2:30 you see Max using a 1911 model pistol, i don't know much about guns so i can't identify the specific model, and i don't know how to do a page, so i'll just post the screencap i took, and a link to the video and leave that up to people who are more in the know.Kornflakes89 12:15, 17 November 2011 (CST)

screencap [IMG]http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk125/kornflakes89/6461a05d.jpg[/IMG]

link to video http://www.gametrailers.com/video/design-and-max-payne-3/723955

Looks like a run-of-the-mill Colt M1911. - Mr. Wolf 19:36, 19 November 2011 (CST)

unknown handgun

I just saw a trailer for the game and in one scene he seems to have a revolver of some sort in his holster. From what I can see of the barrel it appears to be a Colt Anaconda. I don't know how to add photos to this site so here is a link to the video. Go to 3:10 to see the gun. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/design-and-max-payne-3/723955

Gotta love the details

Just the length Rockstar goes to get the details right, moving slides, realistic shell casings, the bullets themselves, etc.

         **Valant** Yeah, I have to say I am appauled by games (especially shooters) that still to this day dont show weapons cycling or even empty mags and shell casings drop to the floor. One of the coolest things back in the day with the original Max Payne games was to after a big shootout just counting the used brass from the Beretta's and Desert Eagles, empty shotgun shells and empty magazines from the M4. So cool

This is was a selling point of Max Payne 1 along with rendered bullets in real-time back in 2001--Mercury 15:37, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Another unknown smg

Any ideas?--Flavio 14:00, 4 January 2012 (CST)

Something in the vein of Tec-9... --Warejaws 14:11, 4 January 2012 (CST)

I looked at a larger version of this screen on Shacknews, and I'm pretty sure the SMGs are Beretta M-12s/Taurus MT-12s, only it appears the foregrips have been removed. I was hoping the Beretta M12 would be in this game, but now I'm kind of annoyed after seeing the cosmetic change made to it. It's kind of a pet peeve of mine when game designers modify the appearance of a gun for no good reason. Why do they do this? Is it due to legal reasons?--Phillb36 21:46, 5 January 2012 (CST)

The gun appears under its Brazilian military name, so it's not a legal thing. Removing the foregrip and stock allows for it to be not only fired one-handed, but placed in Max's holsters like the other one-handed weapons. Anyone up to Photoshopping a pic of the Beretta to show its in-game appearance? Chitoryu12 16:58, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

Yes, I figured out why the forward grip was removed, and actually posted my theory a while ago in the "MPK" discussion section below. M972 is just a military designation, not a brand name like Taurus or Beretta, so Rockstar are trying to avoid any legal/licensing issues, otherwise they would include the manufacturer's names for the in-game weapons. The funny thing is the foregrip doesn't have to be removed from the Beretta M12 for it to be a one-handed weapon. The M12 uses a telescoping bolt similiar to the type found in the Uzi, which makes it very well balanced, and easily fired one-handed. This video shows it being done, as does this one(skip to 1:27 mark). Really the only reason the foregrip was removed was so it could fit into a shoulder holster, and I think the change makes it look like crap.--Phillb36 18:46, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

FX-05 Xiuhcoatl

Are we sure it's not just a deformed G36KV? Spartan198 01:18, 18 February 2012 (CST)

It's not an FX-05. Compare: G36 vs FX-05. The "distinctive dual rows of gas vents" it's not enough reason to consider it a FX-05. BTW, the FX-05 has no dual row of gas vents. It's a single row of serpent-shaped vents.

I think you're right, considering that the name of the weapon in the game is "G6". A rather thinly disguised alteration of the G36 designation!--Phillb36 16:07, 19 February 2012 (CST)

No, it's an FX05. Which is a G36 in disguise. The safety is the giveaway.-protoAuthor 16:08, 19 February 2012 (CST)

Upon further looking... Eh... Maybe...-protoAuthor 16:17, 19 February 2012 (CST)

I'd say deformed G36, personally. Also, the FX05 is not a G36 in disguise, no matter what HK's legal team would have people believe. Evil Tim 18:38, 19 February 2012 (CST)

I guess I should say a G36 Cosplayer or something, since the internals are different.-protoAuthor 19:12, 19 February 2012 (CST)

I took another look, and the ejection port placement is totally wrong for the FX-05, it's like it's a G36 dressed up as one. Possible they based it on an Airsoft or some other replica which was just a G36 receiver with the furnishings swapped, as with those Airsoft Mk. 46s with STANAG wells. Evil Tim 07:00, 18 May 2012 (CDT)

Taurus Revolver

I changed the designation of the Taurus revolver from "Raging Bull" to the Model 608. After watching this Weapons Trailer on YouTube it's obvious it's intended to be a Model 608.

Make sure to check out the Going After the Girl Trailer as well. There are good shots of the unidentified submachine gun, which IMO mostly looks like a MP5/40, and there's a shot of gangsters holding the unknown revolver that caused so much debate as to its identity. I also noticed that in a couple of shots the Mini-Uzi has it's stock, while most of the time it's shown without it. So are the developers going to leave the stock on or off? I'd rather it's left on as I think it looks better that way--Phillb36 16:48, 19 February 2012 (CST)

Mini 30

Got a new weapon announced.Chitoryu12 17:56, 23 March 2012 (CDT)

Desert Eagle

I don't think the handgun Max is holding in the "MAC-11" page is a PT92. I'm pretty sure it is the Desert Eagle.

Max with a MAC-11 and a PT92 AFS.

- User:1morey March 6, 2012 4:21 PM (EST)

It used to be a picture of a MAC-11 and a PT-92, but warejaws uploaded a new version of it, turning it in to one of a Desert Eagle and Mini-Uzi.-protoAuthor 16:25, 6 March 2012 (CST)

MPK

The submachine gun video on the site showed all the SMGs in the game. Is the MPK an MP5/40 or MP5/10?Chitoryu12 17:56, 23 March 2012 (CDT)

There is no way to know which model the MPK is supposed to represent since Rockstar doesn't list the caliber of the weapon. Here is the link to the Max Payne 3 SMG trailer for those who haven't seen it. Nice to see the SAF is in the game, I was hoping it would be included. I hate the altered design of the Beretta Model 12 , I think it looks like crap. I do have a theory why the front grip was removed-- it's to allow the weapon to fit inside Max's shoulder holster. It's kind of a dumb idea, IMO. I think instead of making cosmetic changes to the guns, some kind of shoulder rig could have been used that allows the weapons to hang down by sling, but that probably would have been more difficult to render--Phillb36 20:39, 23 March 2012 (CDT)

I don't think HK ever made 10mm or .40 versions in K form. Spartan198 00:20, 24 March 2012 (CDT)

Even though it's called "MPK" in the game it doesn't look like the MP5K, the weapon is modeled on the MP5/10 or MP5/40 as it has a straight magazine. Watch the SMG video and you will see what I mean.--Phillb36 23:30, 24 March 2012 (CDT)

Well, there were straight magazines made for the 9mm MP5 too, so it could just be that.--Wildcards 13:38, 6 April 2012 (CDT)

Except the magazines in the game are not the old "waffle" type, they look like the straight type used on the MP5/10 or the MP5/40, which is why I assume the MPK is based on one of those weapons. The 9mm straight magazines would be a strange choice since they are hardly used anymore, but since this is a video game we are talking about here, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the weapons possess questionable design elements.--Phillb36 21:29, 6 April 2012 (CDT)

According to the new walkthrough video (posted below), the MPK has a 20-round magazine. Are the .40 and 10mm versions in 20 or 30 round capacities as standard? Chitoryu12 20:55, 13 May 2012 (CDT)

The .40 & 10 mm magazines have a standard capacity of 30 rounds. The magazine in the game has the appearance of a 30 rounder. So this means the game designers screwed with the magazine capacity to make the weapon differ from the other SMGs, but never accurately rendered the mag to reflect this. Is there any indication what caliber round the "MPK" is chambered for in the game?--Phillb36 21:46, 13 May 2012 (CDT)

Difficult to say, as the walkthrough has been blocked until the official release tomorrow and the player never got close enough to the receiver to see if there were any markings.

I've updated the article to indicate it as a plain "MP5" and noting the unusual position of the magazine release, as well as a picture of an MP5/40 and the possibility that it may be one of the high-caliber variants. It most certainly is not the waffle-type 9mm straight mags of the standard MP5, and the front magazine release and lack of a push button means that it's not an HK94 as was originally believed. Chitoryu12 16:54, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

Shotgun video

A new Shotgun Video is on Youtube. Any guesses as to what the Super Sport is based on? Perhaps the Remington 1187?

That would be my guess. Other new guns are the SPAS-15, sawed-off shotguns (of course), and some kind of tactical Mossberg 500.

Walkthrough up early

As usual, Game Anyone "reviewers" have gotten their hands on some early copies and are posting the entire game.

http://www.gameanyone.com/video/461141

Feel free to start checking our information with the real thing. Chitoryu12 19:14, 13 May 2012 (CDT)

Got blocked by Rockstar as I finished watching part 3, they caught it quite easily :S -- Long Fallen 00:34, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

Okay, Rockstar ordered them to disable the walkthrough until tomorrow. But I could catch some bits. The PT92 (at least sometimes) appears to have an extended magazine. The MPK has a 20-round magazine. The Mossberg 500 has had what looks like a folding wire stock added. The HK21 appears with both a box (for unlimited ammo rail shooting on a speedboat early in the game) and with a drum (for the heavy soldiers with limited ammo). The PT92 appears in the speedboat level with a silencer and flashlight as your starting weapon. As a general note, the Euphoria physics really have been tweaked in a good way and the weapons have relatively realistic stopping power (the LPer picked up a .38 under the assumption that revolver = magnum and was confused by its lack of power). The game in general looks great and blends cinematic moments with the gameplay perfectly, to the point where the transition from cutscene to gameplay is marked by a reticule appearing in the middle of it. Chitoryu12 00:35, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

Also, a picture of Neves given to Max at the beginning of Chapter 7 shows him with what looks like a full size G36. It's difficult to tell if it's a G36 or just an FX-05, however.

Found a vid of someone going through the weapons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKBCkzcUeo&t=6m42s Sawn-off, G3-based sniper and a grenade launcher are the unaccounted ones.Temp89 13:04, 14 May 2012 (CDT)

The sawed-off is already on there, as it was in the shotguns video. It's difficult to identify the FMP G35, and it almost looks like the proportions are off in that art of it. It doesn't have the cheek rest of a G3SG/1 or MSG90, so it may be a standard G3A3 with a scope. Can anyone ID the grenade launcher? Never seen any like it before. Chitoryu12

It appears that in keeping with the common trope used in video games, ammunition for similar weapons is done on the basis of type rather than magazine OR caliber. It looks divided into pistol, rifle, and SMG ammo. So max can get PT92 ammo from a .38 or vice versa. Chitoryu12 01:01, 15 May 2012 (CDT)

One of the enemies in Chapter 10 appears to have an M72 LAW that he uses to try and shoot at the bus. It may appear as a rocket launcher elsewhere and I've missed it, but the walkthrough vid gives a good slo-mo closeup of the gun. I'm having difficulties changing the file type to upload, so here it is on Tinypic http://i45.tinypic.com/2am4qe.png. As you'd expect, the RPG-7 makes several appearances as well. Chitoryu12 02:29, 15 May 2012 (CDT)

The grenade launcher appears to be a break-open design. Chitoryu12 17:06, 15 May 2012 (CDT)

Grenade Launcher

In the roughly 5 seconds that I had it ingame, I determined that the grenade launcher was a DefTech 37mm launcher. --ColonelTomb 10:48, 19 May 2012 (CDT)

FAL

Based on the rear sight of the FAL in-game, I think that it is modeled off The Imbel LAR, which is the Brazilian FAL. [[1]] --SmithandWesson36 17:55, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

That rear sight isn't unique to the Imbel version, though. AFAIK nothing about the Imbel M964 is unique to it, that's why I just labelled it as FN FAL. Evil Tim 18:22, 21 May 2012 (CDT)

Need reloading/magazine/shell casing images

Valant 2:38 P.M PST 6/12/12*

Hi there, I've been doing my best to help update the pages for this game (which I declare to be one of the best TPS's made), and since I dont have the capabilities (or intelligence) to do screen captures, I was wondering if someone could get some screen caps of the weapons reloading (preferably with each weapons action still open), images of empty magazines on the ground, and finally those of the shell casings left behind. There is a lot of detail in these weapons so a website like this deserves this to occur. Thank you so much and I hope that someone can pull this off!

It is not necessary. These screenshots should suffice to give.--Mateogala 16:46, 12 June 2012 (CDT)

Valant 4:02 P.M PST 6/12/12*

Reply: Mateogala It's not a situation on necessity, but rather just the sheer appreciation to the level of detail. Just by looking at the ground after a shootout you can see exactly what type of weapons were being used because of the different shape and color of the shell casings and the magazines, can even be placed in the discussion section.

.38 Revolver

I think the .38 might actually be based off a S&W Model 20. It has an underbarrel lug that is more similar to the Model 20 than the Model 10.--SmithandWesson36 18:04, 12 June 2012 (CDT)

Smith & Wesson Model 20 - .38/44