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[[Image:HeroXM16E1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Actual XM16E1 used by [[Mel Gibson]] in the movie. Picture taken from Long Mountain Outfitters website.]] | [[Image:HeroXM16E1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Actual XM16E1 used by [[Mel Gibson]] in the movie. Picture taken from Long Mountain Outfitters website.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lt.Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on the Ia Drang Valey.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lt.Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) lands on the Ia Drang Valey.]] | ||
− | [[Image:Vlcsnap-83078.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier holds his XM16E1 | + | [[Image:Vlcsnap-83078.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier holds his XM16E1; note the forward assist. He has a pretty crappy stance too. Maybe all the "training" they did that Moore loved so much didn't help.]] |
[[Image:Vlcsnap-90584.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A specialist holds a XM16E1.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-90584.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A specialist holds a XM16E1.]] | ||
− | [[Image:Vlcsnap-83195.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lt.Col. Hal Moore and another soldier can be seen | + | [[Image:Vlcsnap-83195.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lt.Col. Hal Moore and another soldier can be seen carrying XM16E1s during the Battle of Ia Drang.]] |
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92270.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sergeant Savage uses the invisible side-mounted iron sight of his XM16E1 as his soldiers show military discipline by pointing their guns in random directions.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-92270.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sergeant Savage uses the invisible side-mounted iron sight of his XM16E1 as his soldiers show military discipline by pointing their guns in random directions.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-92633.jpg|thumb|none|500px||A soldier fires his XM16E1 rifle at NVA soldiers, horrendous stance, sights are above eyeline and his hand is all the way at the front of the rifle.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-92633.jpg|thumb|none|500px||A soldier fires his XM16E1 rifle at NVA soldiers, horrendous stance, sights are above eyeline and his hand is all the way at the front of the rifle.]] | ||
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== Genuine AK-47s == | == Genuine AK-47s == | ||
− | During the movie the North Vietnamise Army (NVA) use | + | During the movie the North Vietnamise Army (NVA) use genuine [[AK-47]]s with milled receivers. |
The [[AK-47]]s used in the movie were build by the Movie's Armourer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac]. | The [[AK-47]]s used in the movie were build by the Movie's Armourer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac]. | ||
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-128779.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Thirty rounds left, I can still kill my agent!"]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-128779.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Thirty rounds left, I can still kill my agent!"]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-129123.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same scared PAVN soldier rushes through the jungle and trys to bayonet [[Mel Gibson]].]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-129123.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same scared PAVN soldier rushes through the jungle and trys to bayonet [[Mel Gibson]].]] | ||
− | [[Image:Vlcsnap-130516.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same PAVN soldier gets hit in the head by a single round from [[Mel Gibson]]'s XM16E1. Note the | + | [[Image:Vlcsnap-130516.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same PAVN soldier gets hit in the head by a single round from [[Mel Gibson]]'s XM16E1. Note the milled receiver.]] |
[[Image:Vlcsnap-156900.jpg|thumb|none|500px|NVA soldiers armed with AK-47s.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-156900.jpg|thumb|none|500px|NVA soldiers armed with AK-47s.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158010.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A pile of [[AK-47]]s.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-158010.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A pile of [[AK-47]]s.]] | ||
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== M79 grenade launcher == | == M79 grenade launcher == | ||
− | Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of | + | Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad. |
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40mm]] | [[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40mm]] | ||
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== GE M134 Minigun == | == GE M134 Minigun == | ||
− | A pair each of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers at the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table | + | A pair each of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers at the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the movie. |
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|General Electric M134 - 7.62x51mm]] | [[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|General Electric M134 - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
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== Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine == | == Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine == | ||
− | During the | + | During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a [[Mosin Nagant]] M44 carbine. |
[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M44 Carbine Chambered to the 7.62x54R caliber round.]] | [[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M44 Carbine Chambered to the 7.62x54R caliber round.]] | ||
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== Karabiner 98k == | == Karabiner 98k == | ||
− | A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier | + | A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles. |
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+ | It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62mm NATO. | ||
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[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-34173.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Yankee schweinhunds!"<br>"I keep telling you we're not Germans, Quang."]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-34173.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Yankee schweinhunds!"<br>"I keep telling you we're not Germans, Quang."]] | ||
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== M1A1 Bazooka == | == M1A1 Bazooka == | ||
− | A Viet Minh soldier uses a varient of the [[M1 Bazooka]], the M1A1 Bazooka with one forward grip and a modified rear sight to destroy a | + | A Viet Minh soldier uses a varient of the [[M1 Bazooka]], the M1A1 Bazooka with one forward grip and a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence. |
− | While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be a anachronism the | + | While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be a anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, M9A1, and M20 bazookas during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War. |
[[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1A1 Bazooka.]] | [[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1A1 Bazooka.]] | ||
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== Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun == | == Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun == | ||
− | During the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry division | + | During the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry division perform a bayonet charge against a NVA position(which actually didn't happen in real life) a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a varient of the Soviet [[Degtyarev DP Series Machine Gun|Degtyarev light machine gun]]. |
− | [[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A DP-28, the same | + | [[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A DP-28, the same variant seen in the movie.]] |
− | [[Image:Vlcsnap-164041.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A wounded PAVN soldier | + | [[Image:Vlcsnap-164041.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A wounded PAVN soldier tries to get up while the U.S. soldiers overrun the position.]] |
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A DP-28 with dead NVA soldiers. Note the Huey chopper flying in the sky.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A DP-28 with dead NVA soldiers. Note the Huey chopper flying in the sky.]] | ||
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The following guns were used in the movie We Were Soldiers
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XM16E1
The XM16E1 assault rifle are used by the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division including Lt. Colonel Hal Moore (Mel Gibson), First Lieutenent Charlie Hastings (Robert Bagnell), Second Lieutenent Jack Geoghegan (Chris Klein), Sergeant Ernie Savage (Ryan Hurst) and most United States Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Ia Drang battle Joe Galloway (Barry Pepper) uses one as well. These were actual XM16E1's used on the film for the heroes.
M1 Carbine
A Korean war era M1 Carbine is carried by the South Vietnamese (ARVN) advisor dressed in Tigerstripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is caught and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the french during the intro.
M60 machine gun
The M60 machine gun is are used by US soldiers. Various Door gunners use them as well.
Colt M1911 pistol
A Colt M1911 is fired by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley (Sam Elliott) during a close combat sequence and is also seen in the holsters of his fellow soldiers.
- I read somewhere (I think LMO) that Sam Elliot used an older M1911 not an A1. Gibson on the other hand did use an A1. I'm sure Steve would know something about it, since he worked on the film. - Gunmaster45
Sam Elliot did indeed used a Colt 1911 rebuilt for World War II and Mel Gibson used a Colt 1911A1 pre-war commercial issued to the military during World War II. -Steve
Colt M1911A1 pistol
A Colt M1911A1 is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore (Mel Gibson) during a close combat sequence, shooting an NVA soldier attempting to bayonet him while he's on the radio.
M26 Hand Grenades
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches.
PPSh-41
The NVA and the Vietcong use PPSh-41s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie.
Genuine AK-47s
During the movie the North Vietnamise Army (NVA) use genuine AK-47s with milled receivers.
The AK-47s used in the movie were build by the Movie's Armourer Mike Papac.
M79 grenade launcher
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying M79 grenade launchers in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum(Blake Heron) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad.
MAS-36 Rifle
In the opening scene where the french soldiers are ambushed during the Indochina War, various french soldiers use MAS-36 rifles.
Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall (Greg Kinnear) is most likely a Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman, an unsuccessful lightweight aluminium-cylindered revolver designed for US military flyers. This was part of a generally badly thought-out push to make things from aluminium in the 1960s, also resulting in the M551 Sheridan's lightweight aluminium armour which could be penetrated by machine gun fire and a number of disasterous fires on warships with aluminium superstructures.
GE M134 Minigun
A pair each of GE M134 Miniguns are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers at the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the movie.
M1928A1 Thompson
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a South Vietnamese soldier holding up an M1928A1 Thompson with a 20-round magazine.
Browning M1919A4
Two Browning M1919A4s can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
MAT-49
Various French Soldiers use MAT-49 submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various North Vietnam soldiers and Vietcong soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamise troops during the Indochina war.
RPG-2
An NVA soldier wearing a gas mask uses an RPG-2 (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) to kill American soldiers.
SKS rifle
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use SKS rifles during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.
Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine
During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a Mosin Nagant M44 carbine.
Karabiner 98k
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using Karabiner 98k rifles.
It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62mm NATO.
M1A1 Bazooka
A Viet Minh soldier uses a varient of the M1 Bazooka, the M1A1 Bazooka with one forward grip and a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence.
While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be a anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, M9A1, and M20 bazookas during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War.
Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun
During the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry division perform a bayonet charge against a NVA position(which actually didn't happen in real life) a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a varient of the Soviet Degtyarev light machine gun.
Type 67 Grenade
A Chinese Type 67 hand grenade is thrown at the 1st Cavarly Division's position.
RPD Light Machine Gun
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an RPD Light Machine Gun.