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− | If there aren't any movies featuring this gun, I don't think we need a page for it. | + | =Additional Variants= |
+ | ==Screen-Used== | ||
+ | [[Image:HK45 Eli.jpg|thumb|none|350px|The screen-used Heckler & Koch HK45 Pistol, carried and fired by Eli ([[Denzel Washington]]) in the film ''[[The Book of Eli]]''. - .45 ACP]] | ||
+ | ==Other Images== | ||
+ | [[Image:HH45.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch HK45 Prototype - .45 ACP]] | ||
+ | [[Image:HK45TBlk.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch HK45T - .45 ACP]] | ||
+ | [[Image:HK45-Tactical-BLACK-right-1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch HK45T - .45 ACP]] | ||
+ | [[Image:HK45-Tatical-TAN.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch HK45T with tan frame - .45 ACP]] | ||
+ | [[Image:Hk45compact.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch HK45C with tan frame - .45 ACP]] | ||
+ | [[File:HK45C with Threaded Barrel.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch HK45CT with low profile Meprolight night sights - .45 ACP]] | ||
+ | [[File:HK45CT.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch HK45CT with high profile Heinie night sights and suppressor - .45 ACP]] | ||
+ | [[File:HK45C threaded.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK45C with Threaded Barrel and 10 round magazine - .45 ACP]] | ||
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+ | =Discussion= | ||
+ | If there aren't any movies featuring this gun, I don't think we need a page for it. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:10, 26 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
+ | :And as we see here, (drum roll) :) We DID EVENTUALLY have movie entries for this gun, thus it would have been probably wrong to delete the page as it helped identify the weapon in several movies and other entries. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:38, 29 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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== P30? == | == P30? == | ||
What, exactly, is the difference between this gun, and the HK P30? | What, exactly, is the difference between this gun, and the HK P30? | ||
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+ | The p30 comeschambered in 9mm or 40 S&W. It's also lighter and smaller than the HK45. It's basically a little brother designed for law enforcement applications whereas the HK45 is designed from the ground up to be a combat orientated pistol. -burgershot621 | ||
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+ | Wasn't this designed for the Navy SEALs in response to them hating the MK 23 SOCOM? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 14:43, 17 November 2011 (CST) | ||
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+ | Cool-breeze: No, the SEALs started using SIG P226's because they didn't like the Mk23. The Mk23 was pretty much roundly despised as too heavy, too big and all around troublesome. Saw a couple in a Special Forces arms room in Iraq, but they were only there because they were on the property books. --[[User:idpassr|idpassr]] | ||
+ | ::The SEALs started using SIGs after a chunk of a Beretta's slide broke off during firing (yeah, you read that right) and injured its user. Beretta modified the 92's design to prevent this from happening again, but the SEALs were already soured by the incident and dropped it. This was in the 80s, while the Mk 23 was developed later in the mid 90s. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:45, 29 November 2017 (EST) | ||
+ | :::After these incidents the Navy ordered a fully enclosed slide for the Beretta called the Phrobis Navy slide. It was apparently incredibly robust in testing, but apparently despite this the whole project was squashed by the Army for political reasons and that is when the navy went for the SIG. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:49, 30 November 2017 (EST) | ||
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+ | :Actually, the Mk. 23 is not that heavy, it weighs the same as an all-steel 1911. - [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] 19:44, 19 November 2011 (CST) | ||
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+ | I believe this pistol was designed for the US Joint Combat Pistol (JCP) cooperative project between the US Army and USSOCOM to find a .45 replacement for the M9. Like most US procurement projects it went nowhere. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 17:03, 17 November 2011 (CST) | ||
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+ | I know the SEALs started using the P226 because they didn't like the Mk. 23 but I could have sworn that I'd read somewhere that HK decided to try and resolve all the issues with the Mk. 23 and the HK45 was the product of that decision. Although as Commando552 mentioned about the JCP program I'm starting to think that I might be mixing up the two programs. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 18:16, 17 November 2011 (CST) | ||
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+ | First time posting. Here's some history on the HK45 with Ken Hackathorn and Larry Vickers on pistol-training.com | ||
+ | http://pistol-training.com/articles/hk45-interview-with-ken-hackathorn-and-larry-vickers | ||
+ | "[[User:Shadowkungfu|Shadowkungfu]] 21:29, 17 November 2011 (CST)" | ||
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+ | == HK45C == | ||
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+ | Should there not be a subcategory for the HK45C? --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 22:40, 23 December 2011 (CST) | ||
+ | :I found a great left side picture of the HK45C, should I overwrite the right sided image on the page or just make a new file and keep the old one? [[User:Mr. Wolf|Mr. Wolf]] ([[User talk:Mr. Wolf|talk]]) 18:37, 10 November 2015 (EST) |
Latest revision as of 01:32, 23 February 2019
Additional Variants
Screen-Used
Other Images
Discussion
If there aren't any movies featuring this gun, I don't think we need a page for it. MT2008 04:10, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
- And as we see here, (drum roll) :) We DID EVENTUALLY have movie entries for this gun, thus it would have been probably wrong to delete the page as it helped identify the weapon in several movies and other entries. :) MoviePropMaster2008 06:38, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
P30?
What, exactly, is the difference between this gun, and the HK P30?
The p30 comeschambered in 9mm or 40 S&W. It's also lighter and smaller than the HK45. It's basically a little brother designed for law enforcement applications whereas the HK45 is designed from the ground up to be a combat orientated pistol. -burgershot621
Wasn't this designed for the Navy SEALs in response to them hating the MK 23 SOCOM? --cool-breeze 14:43, 17 November 2011 (CST)
Cool-breeze: No, the SEALs started using SIG P226's because they didn't like the Mk23. The Mk23 was pretty much roundly despised as too heavy, too big and all around troublesome. Saw a couple in a Special Forces arms room in Iraq, but they were only there because they were on the property books. --idpassr
- The SEALs started using SIGs after a chunk of a Beretta's slide broke off during firing (yeah, you read that right) and injured its user. Beretta modified the 92's design to prevent this from happening again, but the SEALs were already soured by the incident and dropped it. This was in the 80s, while the Mk 23 was developed later in the mid 90s. Spartan198 (talk) 21:45, 29 November 2017 (EST)
- After these incidents the Navy ordered a fully enclosed slide for the Beretta called the Phrobis Navy slide. It was apparently incredibly robust in testing, but apparently despite this the whole project was squashed by the Army for political reasons and that is when the navy went for the SIG. --commando552 (talk) 06:49, 30 November 2017 (EST)
- The SEALs started using SIGs after a chunk of a Beretta's slide broke off during firing (yeah, you read that right) and injured its user. Beretta modified the 92's design to prevent this from happening again, but the SEALs were already soured by the incident and dropped it. This was in the 80s, while the Mk 23 was developed later in the mid 90s. Spartan198 (talk) 21:45, 29 November 2017 (EST)
- Actually, the Mk. 23 is not that heavy, it weighs the same as an all-steel 1911. - Mr. Wolf 19:44, 19 November 2011 (CST)
I believe this pistol was designed for the US Joint Combat Pistol (JCP) cooperative project between the US Army and USSOCOM to find a .45 replacement for the M9. Like most US procurement projects it went nowhere. --commando552 17:03, 17 November 2011 (CST)
I know the SEALs started using the P226 because they didn't like the Mk. 23 but I could have sworn that I'd read somewhere that HK decided to try and resolve all the issues with the Mk. 23 and the HK45 was the product of that decision. Although as Commando552 mentioned about the JCP program I'm starting to think that I might be mixing up the two programs. --cool-breeze 18:16, 17 November 2011 (CST)
First time posting. Here's some history on the HK45 with Ken Hackathorn and Larry Vickers on pistol-training.com http://pistol-training.com/articles/hk45-interview-with-ken-hackathorn-and-larry-vickers "Shadowkungfu 21:29, 17 November 2011 (CST)"
HK45C
Should there not be a subcategory for the HK45C? --Zackmann08 22:40, 23 December 2011 (CST)