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[[Image:Burnnoticefall.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Burn Notice: The Fall of Sam Axe'' (2011)]] <br />
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''Burn Notice: The Fall of Sam Axe'' is the 2011 television prequel to the series ''[[Burn Notice]]''. The film follows Sam Axe ([[Bruce Campbell]]) on a mission to Colombia during his days as a Navy SEAL and reveals the reason why he retired from the military to live in Miami. The film was directed by ''[[Burn Notice]]'' star [[Jeffrey Donovan]].<br />
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'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Burn Notice: The Fall of Sam Axe'':'''<br />
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=Handguns=<br />
==SIG-Sauer P226==<br />
A [[SIG-Sauer P226]] is seen as the sidearm of SEAL Commander Sam Axe ([[Bruce Campbell]]).<br />
[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A factory black (K-Kote) SIG-Sauer P226 pistol chambered in 9x19mm. This is a real movie gun and has appeared in several motion pictures.]]<br />
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== Glock 17 ==<br />
The [[Glock_17#Glock_17|Glock 17]] is used by both Commander Sam Axe ([[Bruce Campbell]]) and Colonel Veracruz ([[Pablo Pascal]]). <br />
[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Glock 17 Second Generation- 9x19mm.]]<br />
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=Rifles=<br />
==M4A1 Carbine==<br />
Some of Veracruz's troops are armed with the [[M4A1]] rifles. <br />
[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with 4 position collapsible stock 5.56x45mm]]<br />
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==M16A1 (with A2 handguards) ==<br />
Many of Veracruz's troops are armed with [[M16A1]] rifles that have been fitted with A2 Handguards. Sam is seen holding up one as well.<br />
[[Image:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M16A1 with A2 style handguards - 5.56x45mm.]]<br />
[[File:BNFOSA 43.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sam holds up the M16A1 rifle that's been fitted with A2 handguards in a possible homage to the "this is my boomstick" scene.]]<br />
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==Bushmaster XM15 "V-Match"==<br />
A [[M16|Bushmaster XM15 "V-Match"]] appears to be also carried by many of Veracruz's troops.<br />
[[Image:Bushmaster xm15 vmatch 20.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Bushmaster XM15 "V-Match" Note smooth handguard and absence of front sight - 5.56x45mm]]<br />
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==CQB-R / Mk. 18 Mod 0==<br />
At least one [[M16 rifle series|CQB-R / Mk. 18 Mod 0]] is used by Veracruz's soldiers during the battle at the cliff.<br />
[[Image:M4A1CQBR.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mk. 18 Mod 0 5.56x45mm with RIS handguard]]<br />
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==FN FAL==<br />
The [[FN FAL]] is seen being used by one of Veracruz's soldiers during the battle at the cliff.<br />
[[Image:FN FAL 50 00.jpg|thumb|none|500px| FN FAL 50.00 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br />
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== Mauser M1943==<br />
Many of the rebels can be seen carrying [[Mauser Rifle Series|Spanish Mauser M1943]] rifles throughout the film.<br />
[[Image:Mauser m43.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser M43 - 8 x 57mm Mauser]]<br />
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==Winchester Model 1873==<br />
A few [[Winchester Model 1873]] rifles are seen being used by rebels, as well as Sam Axe.<br />
[[Image:Winchester1873.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester Model 1873 carbine - 1st generation rifle - 44-40 Cal.]]<br />
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==Norinco Type 56==<br />
What are assumed to be [[Norinco Type 56]] rifles are used by several of Veracruz's soldiers. They are 7.62x39mm AK variants with solid stocks, and though there aren't any good shots of the front sight, they are assumed to be Norinco rifles because of the commonality of these rifles in comparison to other variants.<br />
[[Image:Type56Standard.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Norinco Type 56 - 7.62x39mm.]]<br />
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=Shotguns=<br />
==12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun==<br />
Many of the rebels are also seen using [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]]s.<br />
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=Heavy Weapons=<br />
==M134 Minigun==<br />
The [[M134 Minigun]] is seen mounted on a Colombian police helicopter that engages Veracruz's troops.<br />
[[Image:Armament.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M134 Minigun mounted on M21 Armament Subsystem (Which also includes huge M158 Rocket Launcher).]]<br />
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[[Category:Espionage]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Red_(2010)&diff=394749Talk:Red (2010)2011-03-01T00:14:15Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>What's that chunky anti-material rifle hanging up in John Malkovic's gun-den? Looks to me like a Steyr 50HS, except with a custom scope?? - Bigchiefreefa<br />
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I think it might be an AR-50. The one in the movie has the same horizontal grooves as an Ar-50. Also, the rifle in the movie doesn't have a magazine. The Ar-50 is a single-shot .50cal. I think it's one of the two. -Dr. Feelgood<br />
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==Anyone know what this is?==<br />
I don't know power tools so I need help ;) mpm What is Malkovich holding and loading?<br />
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It's for punching concrete nails. You insert .22 blanks, and it pressures out nails with a sabot. --[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 18:35, 24 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I KNEW it was some sort of hammer, but do you know which one?<br />
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It is a HILTI DX 460-F8. http://www.hilti.de/holde/page/module/product/prca_rangedetail.jsf?lang=de&nodeId=-69275<br />
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Yahoo movies just released a new trailer that shows some more guns and better angles on the ones we already know. Just FYI.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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fitting for a character that act crazy to be using a nail gun<br />
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He's not using the nail gun as a weapon but too bolt down the .50 tripod and in the above pic is preparing to fix the mechanism that holds the trigger down. --[[User:Sidewinder Forge|Sidewinder Forge]] 08:32, 27 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==KARL URBAN'S SIG 226 SPORT ==<br />
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Though at first sight I had hoped for a custom comp'd 1911, I realized that he was holding a Sport. Again, I could be a little off, but take a look for yourself. <br />
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http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2815066112/tt1245526<br />
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--[[User:Gwhysow|Gwhysow]] 18:42, 24 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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That it correct...it is a Sig 226 Sport or the 220 sport.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 19:02, 24 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I think I see double stack bulges in the grip making it the P226 Sport but I can't be sure.<br />
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:I dunno, I mean, yes it appears to have double stack bulges, but the bore diameter looks far too large to be 9mm, not to mention that his compensator is much longer than the one in the P226 Sport picture.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 15:16, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The pistol is a 220 sport, and not a 226, because of the features of the compensator and muzzle diameter.<br />
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:Saw this last night, definitely a P220 Sport, there are no bulges on the frame.--[[User:Pølaris|Pølaris]] 17:21, 21 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Helen Mirren's Sniper Rifle ==<br />
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Anyone know what it is? You see it briefly when she makes the "girl time" remark in one of the trailers. I think it may be something like a Mk12 or maybe an M4 with a sniper scope. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:02, 24 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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You get a much better view of it in the newer trailer. I'd dump a screen-shot in but I'm at work and don't have access (damn you web marshall!). At a glance I thought it was either a modified M4 or an M16 SPR. But I could easily be well off the mark. Anyone (smarter than me) got a better clue? --[[User:bigchiefreefa|bigchiefreefa]] 12:30 26 Juy 2010 (GMT)<br />
::It's a standard M16A4 style HBAR flat top upper with a GemTech Suppressor, standard A2 handguards with a Harris Bipod mounted and a CAA Sharp Shooting Stock on the back end. (edit) BTW, I got one of these with a CAA stock. Just have to make sure all the other details are correct before I photograph the gun. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:15, 25 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
[[Image:RED-M16Sniper01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Helen Mirren with an M16A4 flat top HBAR rifle with a GemTech Suppressor, standard A2 handguards with a Harris Bipod mounted and a CAA Sharp Shooting Stock on the back end - 5.56mm]]<br />
[[Image:RED-M16Sniper02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closer shot detailing the CAA Sharp Shooter Buttstock for the M16 - 5.56mm]]<br />
[[Image:CAASharpShooterStock.jpg|thumb|none|300px|CAA ARS Sharp Shooter Stock for M16/M4]]<br />
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== New Guns ==<br />
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I just saw an advanced free screening. I am going to add that there was an AKMS, an M240 with spade grips, a corner shot with a Glock (unknown model) and M68 Aimpoint, a regular P226 used by William Cooper's ([[Keith Urban]]) supervisor (movie name Cynthia), and either a p228 or p229 used by the secret service agents. Also am M26 Taser, and either an M21 or M14 on John Malkoviche's character's safe house (only saw the left side). It's late and I'm tired, just putting this up so I don't forget tomorrow.--[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 03:14, 12 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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in one of the trailers I think I saw some one holding a corner shot.<br />
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== Guns used to shoot up Frank Moses' house in Ohio ==<br />
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In the db, it was stated that maybe a PKM was used. I thought it looked like a M249 with the handguard removed. It definitely had a different bipod than on the PKM. The bipod looked like it was from a Barrett M82A.<br />
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It looks to feed from the right, and the M249 dosn't do that dos is? As far as I know, only Russian guns feed from the right.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 22:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The barrel alignment isn't right for a PKM. [It's either an [[RPD]] with no foresight or an [[M60]] with no foresight or handgaurd-[[User:SargeOverkill]]<br />
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I think its an [[RPD]]. maybe?<br />
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It might also be the [[FN MAG]] in the weapons cache.<br />
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PKM? In the film, the machine gun feeds from the right and has the charging handle on the right side. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:35, 19 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I saw a pretty good still of the reciever of this weapon and it looks like a PKM reciever. It has that large drop forward of the ammo feed and what looks like rimmed cartridges and a skeleton buttstock and nondisintegrating belt feed.<br />
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It is a PKM machine gun modified with accessories from Blackheart International (http://www.bhigear.com). They purchased 2 accessory kits from us to modify PKM's. We did not get to see the final modifications they did to the PKM, but as you can see from the movie screenshot above, they cut off the fron sight.<br />
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[[Image:BHI-SOPMOD-PKM.jpg|thumb|none|800px]]<br />
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:Thanks so much for that info! Really cool! -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:26, 22 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== .45 acp appeared to be a Para ==<br />
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When Moses goes into the Russian Embassy, he hands over his pistol to those left in car, it seemed to me to be a Para or Kimber, hard to tell but it did have a stamp of some large sort on Slide? just a thought? Notice Skeletonized Hammer for one. Ambi-Safety for 2.<br />
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== Helen Mirren ==<br />
I think it was on Entertainment Tonight, yes I watch it, that Mirren mentions the weapons training she had to go through in order to be allowed to handle loaded firearms. As a side note, one of my fav weapons related moments in this movie was when Malkovich reverently kisses an SMG and says "Swedish K, now that is exciting." --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 16:52, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I think the Carl Gustav M45 was a favorite with special forces in the 1960-1970s<br />
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Also regarding Helen Mirren:<br />
She performs the HK slap like a pro during the scene with the MP-5Ks. Awesome. --[[User:rlapid2112|rlapid2112]]<br />
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==Questionable sources==<br />
[[Image:Red_Unknown.png|thumb|none|500px|]]<br />
I'm removing this screencap from the actual page, since it looks like it was jacked from an illegal copy, most likely a bad cam version. This should also be removed from here later. We can't go around taking screencaps from dvdscreeners/cams/telesyncs(=crap) beacause if some studio boss sees this they're gonna be all over this page. You should wait for the BLU-Ray/DVD to be released. --[[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 18:40, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The Colt MK IV Series 80 is not used by former CIA operative Frank Moses. '''He used Para 1911 GI Expert.'''<br />
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I'm sure for 100%.<br />
::The only thing potentially disproving this is the the ambidextrous safety. The GI Expert lack that. Unless an armorer for the film claims he added an ambi safety for the piece, I'm not 100% sold. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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Well, Bruce is a well known south paw so it could be likely that a good armorer would be prepared for this.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 22:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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How can it be that para when it clearly does not say GI Expert on the slide? Look at the last pic. Nothing on the slide.<br />
:You can make out the stamp on the slide actually if you look closesly. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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No you cant make out any lettering on the weapon. [[User:Gunman2006|Gunman2006]]<br />
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==Joe Matheson's 1911==<br />
Joe Matheson's ([[Morgan Freeman]]) 1911 is listed as a GI Expert Para-Ordnance likes Frank's. I'm unsure if it is, but I found this pic on IMDb:<br />
[[Image:RedM1911MorganFreeman.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note this 1911 is single stack stainless with pearl grips and a suppressor.]]<br />
Unsure if it is a GI Expert or not, but I'm unsure of the make. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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== Reference ==<br />
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I have not seen the movie, so I don't know if it's already been said, but the screencap below reminds me of the incursion of the ESU in Leon.<br />
[[Image:Red 208.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Red (2010).]]<br />
[[Image:Leon185.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Leon (1994).]]<br />
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Or am I wrong?--[[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]] 13:37, 18 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The mook from red is falling backwords after being shot. the mook for Leon has he hands up because Leon took him hostage<br />
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coincidence since a lot of movies and shows tend to copy off of each other in terms of shots [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:21, 27 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Milkor MGL? ==<br />
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In the "Hidden Cache of Weapons" part Charon68 mislaved a granade launcher as a Milkor MGL, I'm 103% sure is the same DefTech prop from The Incredible Hulk. Here, compare<br />
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Incredible Hulk:<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-183240.jpg|thumb|600px|none|37mm barrel, full stock, chubby RIS handguard.]]<br />
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[[Image:Red 303.jpg|thumb|none|600px|none|Same full stock and fat RIS handguard.]]<br />
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== Unknown Under Barrel Revolver Attachment ==<br />
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When the team are in the woods (I won't go into details for spoilers sake), John Malkovich's Smith and Wesson has some sort of underbarrel attachment. It's not just a flashlight mount (that's sort of on the side), this looks more like some kind of single shot shotgun barrel, like a mini M203. Any ideas? --Cole Thorton 26th January, 2011<br />
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There is a clearer shot of the bottom pic in this months empire magazine and you can see a flashlight to the left side of the pistol and youre right, what can only be descrided as a shotun barrel underslung the revolver. I have no idea what it is tho --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 08:39, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2423227904/tt1245526<br />
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Clearer pic at link --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 08:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== S&W 629 with Cooey Shotgun attachment: Many Thanks! ==<br />
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The S&W handgun carried by Boggs after visiting Dunning's home is a S&W Model 629 with a Cooey Single Barrel Shotgun attached.<br />
Just wanted to say thanks for the IMFDB exclusive! --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:24, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I want to thank you for pointing that out, you have no idea how long that has been puzzling me. Many thanks! -Cole<br />
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== Assassin's Pistol? ==<br />
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Just saw it, the assassin who went after Joe early on had a suppressed pistol, Can anyone tell what it is?<br />
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==Browning Comment==<br />
Can you really say with certainty that the the .50 cal would go through those SUVs? Presidential vehicles are extremely heavily armored, five inches thick I believe. It seems to me like the people building these vehicles would have taken .50 cal rounds into account... -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 00:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Captain_America:_The_First_Avenger&diff=387858Talk:Captain America: The First Avenger2011-02-12T14:20:01Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>I changed the trench gun entry as it is used by a character called Dum Dum Dugan. He is played by Neil McDonough of band of brothers, on another note im so glad Cap is acking a 1911 as his sidearm--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 08:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Captain America wouldn't be American if he didn't pack a .45 --[[User:Swordfish941|Swordfish941]] 14:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I also think the rag tag group of allied troups with the 'custom' weapons are the howling commando's but thats probably for a geekier site--[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 08:32, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:If that is Dum Dum Dugan then it is the "Howling Commandos". Whether or not Nick Fury makes an appearance is the other question. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 11:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Fury is listed on the cast as Jackson has signed for a 9 picture deal with marvel but i dont think we'll be getting sgt fury tho --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 12:25, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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It has been confirmed by the producer that the Howling commandos do feature, and confirmed that Gabe Jones (I believe played by Derek Luke if the rumours are correct) will make an appearance in the film. I would guess that the guy next to Cap with the Thompson is Dino Manelli, and strongly suspect that the guy in the beret with the Sten is Percival "Pinky" Pinkerton. EDIT: Don't think it is Pinky actually, as Union Jack is in the film played by JJ Field, so I reckon they have amalgamated The Invaders and The Howling Commandos. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 12:42, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:And the Asian guy with the knit cap carrying the custom gun is Jim Morita. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 12:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::the CHARACTER's name is Jim Morita, which would probably imply that he is a Nisei (Japanese American GI fighting in Europe). [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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If i remeber correctly he was the leader of a Nisei squadron till he joined Fury's howling commando's --[[User:Captain Snikt|Captain Snikt]] 01:12, 8 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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The one next cap holding the Thompson is Bucky. [[User:humanzie3|humanzie3]]<br />
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Boy oh boy I can't wait to see Hugo Weaving as the Red Skull. Here's hoping we see him with a Luger or a C96. -- K[[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 14:20, 12 February 2011 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Heavy_Rain&diff=385177Talk:Heavy Rain2011-02-05T20:45:03Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>==Possible Beretta 90-Two?==<br />
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[[Image:933123 20090818 790screen008.jpg|thumb|none|300px|''The PI holding his Beretta 92FS.'']]<br />
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Maybe it's just the graphics, but it looks like they were trying to go for the newer Beretta 90-Two there. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 18:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I would agree with that statement.-protoAuthor 18:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Agreed. It definitely appears to have a rail cover at the front. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 06:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Spoilers ==<br />
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How hard is it to not put spoilers in the descriptions? I mean come on; it's a brand new game!--[[User:Spikemonkey|Spikemonkey]] 20:30, 3 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Just edit<br />
Thank you, Captain Obvious; for all of your wonderful insight. However, the fact that ''I don't want to read the spoilers'' would make the act of editing them out a bit difficult.--[[User:Spikemonkey|Spikemonkey]] 00:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Added plot spoilers warning at the top of the page. Other then that, I can't really think we can do much else. If you want to remove some description of it, then fine. But some other people might not be happy with it. [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]]<br />
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== Drug Dealer's Shotgun? ==<br />
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Anybody have an ID on the shotgun used by the drug dealer Mars is sent to kill?<br />
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==M1911==<br />
I'd put money on them being 1911A1's.<br />
Nathaniel's seems more utilitarian, whereas Paco's is very much blinged out and all that.<br />
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==Desert Eagle==<br />
The serrations for the railz are on the FRAME of the godawful Desert Eagle, not the barrel. That would be stupid beyond compare. Well, excluding the use of a Desert Eagle it would be.<br />
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==Overhaul==<br />
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I hope nobody minds if I give this page an overhaul. --K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 20:45, 5 February 2011 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_Brave_One&diff=381400The Brave One2011-01-25T21:45:55Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Smith & Wesson Model 66 */</p>
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<div>'''The following guns were used in the movie ''[[Brave One, The|The Brave One]]'''''<br />
[[Image:BraveOneCover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Brave One'' (2007)]]__TOC__<br clear="all"><br />
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== Kahr K9 ==<br />
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Erica Bain ([[Jodie Foster]]) purchases a [[Kahr K9]] from a blackmarket gun dealer ([[Angel Sing]]) to carry for her own protection, eventually using it to kill several criminals as she gradually becomes a vigilante.<br />
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[[Image:Kahr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Kahr K9 9mm]]<br />
[[Image:TBO-First-Gun-Buy-AlleyA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Erica Bain ([[Jodie Foster]]) aims her newly acquired [[Kahr K9]] which she picked up from a black market sale in an alleyway - 9mm]]<br />
[[Image:TBO-Kahr9-AimedA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Erica Bain ([[Jodie Foster]]) aims her [[Kahr K9]] at the head of Cutler ([[Victor Colicchio]])- 9mm]]<br />
[[Image:TBO-Kahr9-headA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A clearer side angle of Erica Bain's [[Kahr K9]] aimed at the head of Cutler ([[Victor Colicchio]])- 9mm]]<br />
[[Image:TBO-Kahr9AlleyA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Erica Bain ([[Jodie Foster]]) prowls the back alley with her matte stainless [[Kahr K9]] pistol - 9mm]]<br />
[[Image:TBO-Kahr9backA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A back shot of Bain holding her matte stainless [[Kahr K9]] pistol very loosely in her fingers as she peers around a corner - 9mm. This is appropriate since Bain is completely untrained and has started using her pistol with no formal training whatsoever.]]<br />
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===Kahr K9 Digital Gun flashes===<br />
It is noteworthy that Foster never really fires her Kahr K9 throughout the movie. Every time she fires, it is a digital flash. Probably easier due to the restrictive New York City filming locations.<br />
[[Image:TBO-CGI-Flash-FosterA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Erica Bain ([[Jodie Foster]]) with an obvious digital gun flash from her Kahr K9]]<br />
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== Glock 19 ==<br />
Detective Mercer ([[Terrence Howard]]) has a [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]] as his standard service pistol. He gives it to Erica Bain to kill a gang member in the climax.<br />
[[Image:Glock19pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 19 (3rd Generation) - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:TBO-Glock19HandoffA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Detective Mercer ([[Terrence Howard]]) hands off his [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]] to Erica Bain ([[Jodie Foster]]) so that she can shoot Lee ([[Luis Da Silva Jr.]]) - 9mm]]<br />
[[Image:TBO-Glock19FosterA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Erica Bain ([[Jodie Foster]]) about to shoot Lee ([[Luis Da Silva Jr.]]) with a [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]] - 9mm]]<br />
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== Smith & Wesson Model 66 ==<br />
Erica Bain's first action as a vigilante involves her defending herself from a shopkeeper's murderous husband armed with a [[Smith & Wesson Model 66|Smith & Wesson Model 66 Snub Nosed Revolver]] with a 2.5" barrel and aftermarket Black custom grips - .357 magnum.<br />
[[Image:Mod66wPachmayr.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 66 Snub nosed revolver with Pachmayr Grips - .357 magnum]]<br />
[[Image:TBO-RobberRevolver01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sandy Combs ([[Larry Fessenden]]) aims his S&W Model 66 Revolver, with 2.5" barrel, at his wife, Ida Combs, before shooting her five times, leaving just one round left in the handgun - .357 magnum. '''In the film, the police describe the shots as .38 special''', which is completely understandable and usable by a .357 magnum revolver.]]<br />
[[Image:TBO-RobberDigitalFlashesA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sandy Combs ([[Larry Fessenden]]) shoots Ida Combs ([[An Nguyen]]) at close range. Like before, the gun flashes are '''digital CGI special effects''' and not blanks, however it is probably for safety purposes, considering how close he is to the victim.]]<br />
[[Image:TBO-RobberRevolver02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sandy Combs ([[Larry Fessenden]]) notices a noise in the store after killing his wife, while gripping his S&W Model 66 Revolver - .357 magnum.]]<br />
[[Image:TBO-RobberRevolver04a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Like yet another untrained individual, Sandy Combs ([[Larry Fessenden]]) nervously grips his S&W Model 66 Revolver in an unusual manner when looking for the person in the store - .357 magnum.]]<br />
[[Image:TBO-RobberRevolverFloorA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the Model 66 revolver, here the custom black grips are visible - .357 magnum.]]<br />
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==M1911A1==<br />
* A [[M1911A1]] pistol is seen behind the glass counter at a gun store when Erica ([[Jodie Foster]]) attempts to buy a weapon.<br />
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==Steyr GB==<br />
* Seen behind the glass counter at a gun store.<br />
[[Image:TBO-Gunstore01A.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen behind the glass at the gunstore: Left to right - M1911A1, (Tbd), Steyr GB Pistol]]<br />
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==Beretta 92FS==<br />
* A [[Beretta 92FS]] pistol is seen behind the glass counter at a gun store when Erica ([[Jodie Foster]]) attempts to buy a weapon. Two of them are visible, one with wooden grips, one with black plastic factory grips.<br />
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[[Image:TBO-Gunstore02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen behind the glass at the gunstore: Left to right - Steyr GB Pistol, Beretta 92FS with Wooden grips.]]<br />
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==Makarov PM==<br />
* Seen behind the glass counter at a gun store.<br />
[[Image:TBO-Gunstore03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen behind the glass at the gunstore: Left to right - Beretta 92FS with Wooden grips, Beretta 92FS with black grips, Makarov PM.]]<br />
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==Smith & Wesson 39==<br />
* Seen behind the glass counter at a gun store.<br />
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==Tanfoglio TZ-75==<br />
* Seen behind the glass counter at a gun store.<br />
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==Smith & Wesson Model 10 HB==<br />
* Seen behind the glass counter at a gun store.<br />
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[[Image:TBO-Gunstore05a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen behind the glass at the gunstore: Left to right - S&W Model 39, Tanfoglio TZ-75, Smith & Wesson Model 10 HB.]]<br />
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==Smith & Wesson 4506==<br />
* Seen behind the glass counter at a gun store.<br />
[[Image:S&W4506 PF BruceW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Early model Smith & Wesson 4506 - .45 ACP. This was an actual screen used pistol that was used by [[Ving Rhames]] and [[Bruce Willis]] in ''[[Pulp Fiction]]'']]<br />
[[Image:TBO-Gunstore06a.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Seen behind the glass at the gunstore: Left to right - S&W 4506, Astra 400, (TBD)]]<br />
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==Astra 400==<br />
* Seen behind the glass counter at a gun store.<br />
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==Smith & Wesson 659==<br />
* Seen behind the glass counter at a gun store.<br />
[[Image:TBO-Gunstore07a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen behind the glass at the gunstore: Left to right - Astra 400, Heckler&Koch HK4, Smith & Wesson 659.]]<br />
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[[Image:TBO-GunstoreWall01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px| '''Help me out here on Identifying these pistols '''']]<br />
The black pistol above (from left to right) is a Ruger MKIII678 (Cal. 22 LR), the pistol next to it is a CZ 83 (Calibre 7,65 mm Browning; 9 mm Browning or 9 mm Makarov) <br />
:I think the bottom left revolver is a Smith & Wesson .32 Double Action Second Model Revolver --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:19, 17 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I believe you are correct. The gun above it looks like a Ruger Mk II, and the gun next to it looks like a Cz 83 pistol. The others gun are at too great an angle to ID. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
:::Curses. I was afraid of that. You still have some of the best eagle eyes on IMFDB for Identifying hard to see guns.... [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::Okay, just for you I turned up the volume on my sight powers ;). The gun next to the S&W is actually the reflection of it in the glass, so that gun's IDed. The gun next to the reflection looks like a Smith & Wesson, likely the 659 since the grips don't wrap all the way around. And the gun laying on the top shelf next to the Cz pistol is very hard to see, but bears some resemblance to a Walther P38. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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==Green Screen shots==<br />
[[Image:TBO-GreenscreenJodieA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|What is interesting is how many GREEN screen shots there are of Foster shooting, probably the most expedient way to film scenes of firing weapons in a city (New York City) that is notorious for being difficult to fire live guns with blanks.]]<br />
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<div>== New gun anime ==<br />
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Guess someone beat me to this and read the manga, too. I can't wait for them to show the PSG1, MP5s, M16s, and Galils. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:58, 6 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Hell yeah! Though the over abundance on fanservice (I like T&A as much as the next guy but it gets annoying after the second dozen still) compared to the manga is rather distasteful. Also what M16s or Galils? The only assault rifles present in the manga thus far are M4s and Type 89s [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 06:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I guess I must have mistaken a Type 89 for a Galil. It looked like one for a second and I coulda sworn I saw an M16. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The prefectural police SAT team all use Type 89F (with folding stock) as their assault weapon. Minami used a modified Type 89 with M4 style fore sight and RIS hand guard (which confused me at first). One of the Secret Service agents on board Air Force One used what appears to be M4 or CAR-15 carbine. The JGSDF special forces operator that appeared in Ch. 24 used some type of Type 89 carbine (not sure if it exist in real life).--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 21:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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At the rate this anime is showing each episode, we're probably not going to see the guns until episode 5 or 6 [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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In the manga one of the dead officer's had his gun held in a death grip, making it necessary for Rei to simply remove the bullets. In the anime they changed it to having a broken grip. Why the change? And how do you break a steel handle right off? [[User:Ballistics_Expert2|Ballistics_Expert2]]<br />
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Well the grips themselves are wooden, so if the wood on the grip got broken off, it would make the gun very hard to shoot with and pretty much useless. And I swore in the manga, the reason was that the second revolver also had the grip broken off. That's the most likely excuse, but it look like the other officer's revolver has rubber grips on them. Also wondering is it SOP for patrol officers to only carry just a loaded weapon and no reloads. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm also quite certain in the manga the second pistol was rendered useless by a broken grip. Well I can't say for sure, it wouldn't surprise me if Japanese officers carried no reloads, they seem to have a big emphasis not to use their firearms even resorting to bats and poles. [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 03:18, 27 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Chapter 04, page 15, Rei specifically says that she couldn't get the other revolver out of the officer's hand, but the bullet's looked okay. [[User:Ballistics_Expert2|Ballistics_Expert2]]<br />
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:My translation of that page was Rei said that "handle was broken, but the bullet should still work" [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I've actually seen both version in anime and manga translation, but I'm going to go with the handle being broken explaination. The reload rounds carried by the officers may have been unreachable since they are probably stuck between the bodies and the seats, that's probably why Rei only go for the guns themselves. I also find it funny that Takashi said TV taught him to keep his finger off the trigger, while in real life there are so many bad examples by the actors on TV/movies. --[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 03:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It's interesting. In the manga chapter 5, the Yakuza members are using over/under shotguns. But in the anime they're using Remington 870 pump actions. [[User:Ballistics_Expert2|Ballistics_Expert2]]<br />
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From guessing, base on the manga chapters are structured and how the Anime adapts, I'd say we'd be seeing Minami in the next episode maybe and maybe the survivors would get to the house to bust out the guns [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:They said this season will end at 12 episodes, so it would seem like it is going to end when they starting launching nukes at each other. Unless they completely changed the ending of course.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 03:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ah, that's bull. This series really needs to be much longer than that seeing how the manga is well pass that point anyway. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Looks like episode 6 is where we get to see the SR-25, Ithaca 37 and the M1A [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Music? ==<br />
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Does anyone know the music used when Hisashi starts coming back to life and Takashi kills him? It's quite a common piece but have no idea what its called.<br />
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:I thought it was just part of the Anime's soundtrack. Look it up on youtube. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:13, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I think it was in a recent zombie film possibly resident evil but i can't find it. It's driving me nuts... lol<br />
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Just found it. It's from 28 weeks later. In A Heartbeat by John Murphy<br />
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== Illegal after market parts ==<br />
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Saying that they found a gun that is illegal to have to begin with in Japan with "illegal aftermarket parts" is a bit of an oximoron. Since in possession of any firearm in Japan is illegal. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:02, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Not at all, that's a common misconception many foreigners have about Japan. You can have non-repeating rifles and shotguns for hunting/sporting purposes and .22 pistols for target shooting (pistols must be kept at the range though). It's just that the licences are limited in number, heavily regulated and strictly enforced. [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 08:46, 9 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I know you can have specific shotguns, but they don't allow .22 rifles anymore since the 70s. I'm just saying that you would not be allow to have an AR-10 or a Springfield M1A1 even if you are a cop. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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For the record "M1A1" is not the correct designation, they are simply called M1As. That being said, the terminology that I've seen in the manga strips is a tad forced and inaccurate, and it's drained a lot of the hype every one of my anime loving friends has displayed. I will have to watch it at some point, though, I'm just not as excited. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 05:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Guns that have yet to appear on air ==<br />
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Show we start posting guns that have not been shown yet, like the shotgun. We do see a PSG-1, MP5s, etc later on [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Trying again ==<br />
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I originally created this page before it was deleted on grounds of being a manga. Does the fact that it's an anime mean I can recreate the lost work?<br />
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So far, none of the guns have appeared on screen. Only in the title opening, so it's best to remove the manga images until these weapons really appear in the show. So until they do appear on air, do not post the manga images. It's the same rule that applied to Black Lagoon, which was a manga adopted anime. No manga images were done there either. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:42, 18 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It's going to be hard getting updates for the page now. Anime Network had youtube take all the videos down on the grounds of copyright violation. Now we gotta pay a subscription fee to watch it on their site. [[User:Ballistics_Expert2|Ballistics_Expert2]]<br />
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Well luckily for me, I know where to download the 720p verisons of the anime episodes. I mean, WHERE do you think these images came from? Seriously? Youtube ALWAYS put down videos. There are so many OTHER sites that won't do it, especially if it is anime related. Did you really think I got all my Black Lagoon screenshots from youtube videos? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:56, 29 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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We're going to need to replace the caps that are posted with ones without subs. The Chinese is a bit distracting. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I am going to try to screen cap with the DivX player sometime today. I can remove the caption, but the Japanese disclaimer rolling over the screen will still be there though, and the quality is not as good unfortunately...--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 17:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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If the quality you got isn't good, then I'm going to download a higher resolution version [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== MP5 ==<br />
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Which episode and when exactly was the MP5 seen? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:45, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Episode 4 and around the 7:55-8:00 mark, the shot isn't exactly the greatest. [[User:PraetorianD|PraetorianD]] 04:04, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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A couple of riot police (they are not SATs since they wear riot gear) at the road block in Episode 4 were seen with SMGs fitted with Aimpoint scope gunning down approaching zombies. They should be MP5Fs since it's Japanese police standard issue, but drawing was kind of crude to properly ID the guns in the episode.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 04:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Remember proper format so when you post a cap, it doesn't show up on the far right side of the screen [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Woops, thanks for fixing it.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 05:23, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Too bad this series isn't long enough. In the recent chapter, they went to a police station and got a hold of an MP5 with a suppressor, a Beretta 92 Vertec and apparently an M1014 which Takashi replaces his current shotgun with.[[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I totally agree. Too bad they cut out the airport battle scene from the anime too (I was really looking forward to it too...at least the missile interception part was very well done...) I have some doubt about Takashi replacing his Itacha with the Benelli since he mainly use the gun as a melee weapon, I'm not sure if Benelli's extendable stock is such a good choice, not to mention if he can control the semi-auto firing properly. The Beretta is a little weird too since Japanese police tactical units seem to all use SIG pistols. There's also a bunch of TT-33 (or more like Type 54) that was picked up for them to decide their own fate when the time comes... Really looking forward to the next chapters.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 19:35, 22 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Well the M1014 is a lot heavier than the Ithaca, with the spikes at the muzzle so can could very well use it like that and if you've seen demos of this shotgun, the recoil is a lot less severe if he's using standard shells. If he's using magnum shells, there will be some recoil, but it is a very controllable shotgun. I was a bit weird out by the Beretta pistol. I think they should have take any pistol and given one to every girl. Rei doesn't have a backup at all. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:43, 23 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I see... Thanks for clearing up the part on the Benelli. Rei would probably be more effective at fighting with the breacher than Takashi though. As for Beretta, I think that's just the excuse to give Saeko a new look...(did any one call fan service...lol)--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 22:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Fan service? The entire show is constant tits and ass. In an interview with the director of the series, he wanted every scene to have at least one shot of tits and ass. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:01, 24 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::No argument there, but people do find Saeko with a leg holster even sexier.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 06:06, 24 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, turned out Japanese police actually do use Beretta 92 Vertec... Apparently the Metropolitan Police Department's Special Investigation Team and similar units in other prefectures do use Beretta 92 Vertec with tactical light as their sidearm. The firearms appearing in the series do appear to be well researched by the author...--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 10:27, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Except the little oversight about adding the extra "1" on M1A. I think it's just a typo because a lot of weapons that have A at the end of it is usually followed by another number, like M16A1, or M1A1 Thompson, etc. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==PSG-1 stuff==<br />
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I noted that the PSG-1 had two screencaps that are the same. Is that intentional? Thanks. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 18:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:No it's not. Thanks for pointing that out.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 19:01, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Ultra-nationalists? ==<br />
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Are they seriously called that? I thought they were just extreme left wing people [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:51, 23 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, in the manga they are part of Mr. Takagi's right-wing group (Uyoku dantai [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyoku_dantai Wiki article]). I did find the term ultra-nationalist a bit awkward at first too. They are definatly extreme right wing, but not necessary ultra-nationalistic...--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 22:38, 23 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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yeah, I'm changing it to just Right Wing group. Cause everytime I hear Untra-nationalist, I think Modern Warfare 2. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:49, 23 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:LOL. Actually, I don't think they mentioned that they are part of the Uyoku Dentai in the anime, probably just to avoid problems. Just like the part when they decided to nuke November Kilo and Romeo Charlie.--[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 23:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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For those who knows military codes and put two and two together, November Kilo = N K = North Korea and Romeo Charlie = R C = Republic of China. Which they did nuke in the manga. I really wished we got to see the airport battle scene where we see a character with the Type 89 rifle and the custom SIG [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:00, 24 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I believe Romeo Charlie actually probably stands for Red China. Republic of China (ROC) is the official name for Taiwan, while communist mainland China is the People's Republic of China (PRC). I'm also really disappointed that the airport scene wasn't there...I was really hoping to see it because the modified SIG shows up in the flashes during OP. --[[User:Wildcards|Wildcards]] 06:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Seriously, I'm taking away the "Ultra" in Nationalist. It reminds me more and more of the Russians [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:46, 25 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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A similarity I found with this anime/manga and with Max Brooks' World War Z... ==<br />
This observation probably wont mean a whole lot in the long run, but I thought I might add in something I noticed about the zombies in the anime/manga and how it relates to the living dead zombies in Max Brooks' World War Z...<br />
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The reason why more zombies keep showing up in all the battles the survivors have in the anime is because zombies are attracted to loud noises. Anything from unsilenced firearms, to hearing each other's moans, to the commotion of panicked survivors, any zombie within hearing radius will take notice of the sounds and come staggering over to the commotion. That is why so many of them show up in the battles that take place in the anime. And since Japan's neighborhoods are apparently so tightly packed together, that only doubles the risk of more zombies hearing any sort of commotion and joining their undead comrades wherever they are gathering to eat the living alive. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 04:16, 31 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The idea of zombies reacting to noise has been used in other media; not just Max Brooks' World War Z. Yeah, it's similar, but Max Brooks wasn't the first to use that idea, so I wouldn't go so far as to say that his book is what the writers of the manga/anime were referencing. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 12:39, 31 December 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sahara_(2005)&diff=370964Talk:Sahara (2005)2010-12-26T20:12:54Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* UMP-9 */</p>
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<div>==Walther==<br />
It is very unrealistic that he would have found a Walther PPK from a Malian soldier, and in reality it would probably have either been a Makarov PM or a PSM. I have heard other people say that the gun is a Makarov PM, but it doesn't look at all like it. As A PSM is Russian made, he could have gotten one in Mali, but look how he ejects the clip. The magazine release is on the side of the grip, while on the PSM it's on the butt. This pretty much proves that it's a PPK.--[[User: Colt Revolver Fan]].<br />
Looks more like a Walther PP fullsize to me. I went frame-by-frame a while ago and the slide looked a bit too long for it to be a PPK. - Cyber 14<br />
::Magazine. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
I've read that the Walther PP was actually issued to Mali Soldiers according to a citation from "Janes Infantry Weapons" --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:51, 10 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
==Kazims gun collection==<br />
[[Image:Saharabrowning.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Baby Browning?]] --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Anyone else think the gun handling is very well-done? Not only do Al Giordino and everyone else re-load often, but when Al firt picks up the AK, he checks the magazine and chamber before firing. Of course, there ''was'' the whole anti-helecopter cannon scene but still.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 01:59, 14 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I agree, the gun handling in the movie is exceptional. One bit that immediatly comes to mind is the shootout at the well in which Steve Zahn flips his rifle from his right to left hand in order to maximise the over at hand. And he does it seemlessly.<br />
-Double Agent M<br />
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==UMP-9==<br />
I was watching the movie today, and it appears that one of Massarde's guards (the one patrolling the tunnel to the waste dump) carries a UMP-9 in some shots, in a possible continuity error as it looked like he was carrying a G36 in other shots. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 20:12, 26 December 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sahara_(2005)&diff=370963Talk:Sahara (2005)2010-12-26T20:12:34Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>==Walther==<br />
It is very unrealistic that he would have found a Walther PPK from a Malian soldier, and in reality it would probably have either been a Makarov PM or a PSM. I have heard other people say that the gun is a Makarov PM, but it doesn't look at all like it. As A PSM is Russian made, he could have gotten one in Mali, but look how he ejects the clip. The magazine release is on the side of the grip, while on the PSM it's on the butt. This pretty much proves that it's a PPK.--[[User: Colt Revolver Fan]].<br />
Looks more like a Walther PP fullsize to me. I went frame-by-frame a while ago and the slide looked a bit too long for it to be a PPK. - Cyber 14<br />
::Magazine. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
I've read that the Walther PP was actually issued to Mali Soldiers according to a citation from "Janes Infantry Weapons" --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:51, 10 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
==Kazims gun collection==<br />
[[Image:Saharabrowning.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Baby Browning?]] --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Anyone else think the gun handling is very well-done? Not only do Al Giordino and everyone else re-load often, but when Al firt picks up the AK, he checks the magazine and chamber before firing. Of course, there ''was'' the whole anti-helecopter cannon scene but still.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] 01:59, 14 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I agree, the gun handling in the movie is exceptional. One bit that immediatly comes to mind is the shootout at the well in which Steve Zahn flips his rifle from his right to left hand in order to maximise the over at hand. And he does it seemlessly.<br />
-Double Agent M<br />
::It's SEAMLESSLY<br />
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==UMP-9==<br />
I was watching the movie today, and it appears that one of Massarde's guards (the one patrolling the tunnel to the waste dump) carries a UMP-9 in some shots, in a possible continuity error as it looked like he was carrying a G36 in other shots.</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Tropic_Thunder&diff=363799Talk:Tropic Thunder2010-12-07T00:10:49Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Taybacks revolver */</p>
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<div>==Concern about images==<br />
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I am a bit concerned here.<br />
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On the one hand, it's great that we have screenshots of guns from the movie. On the other, they're obviously from a bootleg of the movie (since "Tropic Thunder" has yet to be released on DVD or Blu Ray). I am worried that if some studio Politburo member happens to be looking for bootleggers to harass, they might come by this site and see our images. And we might get in trouble.<br />
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Thus, I am sorry to say that I think it would be best if we take the images down for now. Of course, I will not do without democratic consent from my fellow admins. What is your opinion? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::Then we might as we get rid of the images for Pineapple Express. Cause that's full of photos I took from a bootleg download. And then what about my Unit page? A lot of the recent pics are from episode's I downloaded from mininova. Does it count since it's a TV show? Cause I got a lot of photos that I painstakingly took watching every episode again<br />
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:::I explained to you since I made that post that I don't care about ones that exist already. Also, no I'm not so concerned about "The Unit", because Unit episodes are available any time from iTunes. My issue with Pineapple Express is that it's ''obvious'' that it had to have come from a bootleg because the movie isn't out on DVD yet, whereas The Unit is available on iTunes and DVD. That's all I'm saying. Don't post screenshots of movies that ''haven't been released on DVD yet''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::::And I won't from now on. -[[User:Excalibur01|Ex]]<br />
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:::::The images from the UNIT or any television show is not an issue. It's been released already via television. What's to keep someone from DVRing the show and screen capping from that? It's obviously NOT a bootleg if it's been on TV. But bootlegs from theatrical release films should be avoided. I only screencap upcoming movies from trailers or clips that have already been released to the general public. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:29, 23 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==DVD==<br />
I just bought this on DVD and if its okay can I screencap it on wednesday? -GM<br />
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==How's it look==<br />
Did it come out alright? I need help with that CAR-15, but other than that, it looks pretty good. -GM<br />
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==The military advisor was probably in on it.==<br />
Given the nature of this movie, I'd fully expect that not only was the military advisor in on it, he may have actively encouraged it.<br />
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"What's that? You want safe ways to look like a jackass while firing a gun? Hmm...give me about fifteen minutes. And a couple of beers." --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 21:37, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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: I understand that the advisor for the actual film was probably letting them kid around, but in the film within the film, they could have seriously used an advisor. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 01:55, 3 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Taken from the main page. ==<br />
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:It is? Isn't that just the name of a custom airsoft gun? The M4 variant with the 11.5 inch barrel is called the "M4 Commando" on Colt's LEO web site, but those have the receivers with detachable carry handles; these guns have A2 receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::Okay, you have me with the A2 receivers, but the CQBR is real.<br />
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:::Yeah, you're right, it's a replacement upper receiver, and apparently one that the DoD has already adopted. Surprised I didn't know it was called that. But again, I don't think the gun in the movie is that. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==AKM==<br />
There is false information about Hanio and AKMs. The AKM(from wikipedia) was invented in 1959 and was used in the Vietnam War.<br />
:They weren't given to the NVA since at the time of the Vietnam War the AKM was a new rifle in the Soviet Arsenal. So they gave the left over AK-47s to the PAVN.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Actually, the NVA started to receive the AKM in the late-60s, so some may have been used in the war. In the pictures of the Northern forces entering Saigon in 1975, the NVA troops were armed with AKMs. But they were definitely very rarely encountered in combat; the original milled-receiver AK-47s and Chinese Type 56s were the Kalashnikov variants used most heavily during the war. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
:Do you have pictures of PAVN troops with AKMs?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:52, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: I checked the list of weapons listed and the list tells me that they used [[AKM]]s and the AKMs were from Warsaw-pact contries and the Soviets. The Viet Cong also used leftovers from World War 2 such as the [[Arisaka Rifle#Arisaka Type 99|Arisaka Type 99]], the [[M1903 Springfield]], and the [[M1 Bazooka#M1A1 Bazooka(2.36 Rocket)|M1A1 Bazooka]]. The Viet Cong just didn't use AKMs that much due to massive productions of the [[AK-47]] and the [[Norinco Type 56]]. I think the movie incorrectly shows the Viet Cong heavily using AKMs. - [[User:Crysis|Crysis]] 17:25, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I can understand the Arisakas. But where would the Victor Charlie find M1903s? I don't think we sent Springfields to the french during Indochina.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:55, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
==AR-15==<br />
The AR-15 was invented in 1958 so how is it inaccurate to have one in 1969? - [[Special:Contributions/98.234.121.159|98.234.121.159]] 01:08, 25 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
*The AR-15 has 2 variants. The first one was used in the war while the second one was invented in the 1980s. - [[User:Crysis|Crysis]] 17:20, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Depends what Second variant you are talking about, Crysis. If you mean the CAR-15, then the only variant used in the Vietnam War was the XM177, those were heavilly used in the war by the US. The CAR-15 in the movie is an error though. It was only released to the public in 1973.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::The CAR-15 was never released by Colt to the public in any form that looked like the XM177 (i.e. they never released a version with a 'fake' flash/sound suppressor). The CAR-15 name was a marketing ploy for COlt to try to brand the AR line with the name COLT, but it didn't really stick and the U.S. Government only utilized the official Colt names, i.e. Model 609, 653, etc. They only released the SP1 sporter carbine which was a 16" barreled carbine version of the slab sided AR15 SP1 full length rifle in 1978. CAR-15/XM177 looking guns weren't available until third party manufacturers starting making them in the late 1970s/early 1980s after. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:27, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==XM16E1==<br />
By 1969 shouldn't the US be using M16A1's?<br />
:Yes. However, the film they are making is one of those preachy war dramas. In other words, it's a shitty movie. The actors and director (Damian Cockburn) apparently know that.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:You have to understand this is a movie about a movie that parodies a lot of Nam war movies. So the weapons themselves, might most likely be bad continuity would fit in with the parody theme. It's just more funny that way [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:51, 13 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==The Gold Cup==<br />
:Are y'all sure? Because in the lower screenshot it shows a .45 with vertical slide serrations, and to my knowledge The GCNM has never come with vertical slide serrations, only slanted.[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 03:35, 21 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Taybacks revolver ==<br />
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Its briefly seen when he is up on the ridge looking down at the actors. Anyone have an ID? Looks like a Smith and Wesson.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:02, 7 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Haha I was about to make a post about this. I agree with the Smith and Wesson ID, you see it again briefly when he goes down into the valley to look at Cockburn's remains. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like it has a wood grips with a medallion inlay. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 00:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Chuck&diff=358567Chuck2010-11-23T21:23:27Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Beretta 90-Two */</p>
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== Pistols ==<br />
=== Custom SIG-Sauer P229 ===<br />
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Colonel John Casey ([[Adam Baldwin]]) carries a custom [[SIG-Sauer P229]] as his sidearm, equipped with Crimson Trace laser grips, and with the flat surfaces polished on the slide, as well as the controls, trigger, and hammer. According to dialogue from "Chuck vs. the Colonel," the gun is a 9mm. Many have confused this gun with the SIG-Sauer P229R Equinox pistol (especially elsewhere on the net). The two pistols are displayed here for comparison.<br />
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Morgan Grimes is trained with this exact same weapon in "Chuck vs. the Role Models", which he identifies as a "SIG 229, 9mm, full metal jacket, with laser grips." He then explains that he learned about guns from playing first-person shooter video games.<br />
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[[Image:IMG 1680.JPG|thumb|none|300px|The actual, screen-used SIG-Sauer P229 used by Adam Baldwin on ''Chuck''. This weapon was built and supplied to the production by Independent Studio Services.]]<br />
[[Image:Sig 229r equinox.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P229R Equinox .40 S&W for comparison purposes. Note the differences between this pistol and the one used on the show. The most obvious difference is that the Equinox guns are "R" Models (i.e. they have rails). Other features that are different are the Sights, the Mag Release button, the frame & Slide and the rubber grips.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-Casey-P229.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A publicity photo of Colonel Casey with his custom SIG-Sauer P229.]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-03321.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colonel Casey chamber-checks his SIG P229 in the Pilot. The magazine used in his P229 is a 10-round "post-ban" magazine (hence the large gap and hollowed-out space in the base plate).]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-01024.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closer view of Casey's P229 from the Pilot.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-SIGPistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Casey's P229 in Season 3, Episode 3: "Chuck vs the Angel de la Muerte"]]<br />
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===SIG-Sauer P229R===<br />
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When Chuck ([[Zach Levi]]) takes his "Red Test" in Episode 3.11, "Chuck vs. the Final Exam", he is given a brand-new [[SIG-Sauer P229|SIG-Sauer P229R]]. It appears that this will be his issued sidearm now that he is a spy.<br />
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[[Image:SIG-SauerP229R.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P229R - 9x19mm (also chambered for .40 S&W & .357 SIG)]]<br />
[[Image:ChuckP229R-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of Chuck's new SIG P229R in the climax of "Chuck vs. the Final Exam".]]<br />
[[Image:Chuckotherguy.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chuck fires his gun for the first time in "Chuck vs. the Other Guy".]]<br />
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===SIG-Sauer P239===<br />
CIA Agent Alex Forrest ([[Tricia Helfer]]) is seen cleaning and wielding a two tone [[SIG-Sauer P239]] during the episode "Chuck vs. the Broken Heart".<br />
[[Image:SIGSauerP239TwoTone.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[SIG-Sauer P239]] - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-2x18-Forrest-P239-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Forrest attaches a suppressor to her weapon.]]<br />
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=== Smith & Wesson 5906 ===<br />
Agent Sarah Walker ([[Yvonne Strahovski]]) has used the [[Smith & Wesson 5906]] for the entirety of the series.<br />
[[Image:IMG 1687.JPG|thumb|none|300px|A Smith & Wesson 5906 used in ''Chuck'' - the weapon pictured here was Yvonne Strahovski's actual gun for the past two seasons of the show. It was supplied to the production by Independent Studio Services.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-AgentSarahWalker.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A publicity photo of Sarah Walker with her Smith & Wesson 5906.]]<br />
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===Heckler & Koch HK45C===<br />
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Shaw's ([[Brandon Routh]]'s) sidearm of choice is the [[Heckler & Koch HK45|Heckler & Koch HK45C]].<br />
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[[Image:HK45C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK45C - .45 ACP]]<br />
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=== Heckler & Koch USP ===<br />
An undercover MI-6 agent is carrying a suppressed [[Heckler & Koch USP]] in "Chuck Versus the Tango" (S1E03). Also, one of the sheik's associates wields this pistol in "Chuck Versus the DeLorean" (S2E10).<br />
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch USP 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:S1E03-USP_Supp.png|thumb|none|600px|MI-6 Agent holding his suppressed Heckler & Koch USP]]<br />
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===Heckler & Koch USP Compact===<br />
Ellie ([[Sarah Lancaster]]) retrieves a two tone USP Compact from a speaker box she received from Ring agent Justin Sullivan ([[Scott Holroyd]]) when she hears someone in the house.<br />
[[Image:USPCompact9.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Heckler & Koch USP Compact]] - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-3x17-Ellie-USP.C-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ellie handles the USP Compact.]]<br />
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=== IMI Jericho 941 ===<br />
La Ciudad's bodyguard holds his [[Jericho 941]] to Chuck's back in "Chuck Versus the Tango" (S1E03). A stainless version is pointed at Chuck by another of La Ciudad's bodyguards before Casey knocks him out with a microwave.<br />
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Sarah uses one at Weap-con in "Chuck vs. the Nacho Sampler."<br />
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[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Jericho 941 - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-7.png|thumb|none|600px|La Ciudad's bodyguard holds his Jericho 941 to Chuck's back.]]<br />
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=== IMI Desert Eagle Mark I ===<br />
Peyman Alahi and his henchmen draw their Chrome Silver and Golden [[Desert Eagle|IMI Desert Eagle Mark I]] throughout "Chuck Versus the Wookie" (S1E04). It is very likely that the gold Desert Eagle wielded by Peyman Alahi was one of the same guns built for ''[[Austin Powers in Goldmember]]'', although the ivory grips were removed for this show. Independent Studio Services, the armorers who supplied the weapons for ''Chuck'', also supplied weapons to ''Goldmember''. Casey uses a similar gun, possibly the same one, at Weap-con in "Chuck vs. the Nacho Sampler." Sarah takes a stainless steel Desert Eagle with her on a mission in "Chuck vs. the Anniversary" but is not seen using it.<br />
[[Image:DesertEagleMarkIstainless.jpg|thumb|none|390px|Matte stainless Desert Eagle MK I - .357 Magnum]]<br />
[[Image:AustinPowersGoldmemberDeagleScreenused.JPG|thumb|400px|none|A gold-plated Desert Eagle Mark I in .357 Magnum, as used by Mike Myers in ''[[Austin Powers in Goldmember]]''. This may be the same gun that is used by Peyman Alahi in "Chuck Versus the Wookie", although the ivory grips (which are fragile) would have been removed for this show.]]<br />
[[Image:S1E04-DE.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Chrome Silver and Golden Desert Eagle Mark I carried by Peyman Alahi's henchmen]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-00037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of Peyman Alahi holding one of his henchmen's Desert Eagles (gold) on Sarah. Clearly visible in this snapshot is the safety of the Mark I (which was changed on later-model Desert Eagles).]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-00038.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A chrome Desert Eagle is held on Sarah.]]<br />
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===Smith & Wesson 3913 "Ladysmith"===<br />
In the episode "Chuck Versus the Wookie" Carina ([[Mini Anden]]) opens her car's trunk to reveal several weapons, one being a [[Smith & Wesson 3913#Smith & Wesson 3913 "Ladysmith"|Smith & Wesson 3913 "Ladysmith"]]. This gun was later used by Jill Roberts ([[Jordana Brewster]]) in the episode "Chuck Versus the Gravitron".<br />
[[Image:S&W Model 3913.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson 3913 LS "Ladysmith" 9x19mm.]]<br />
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===Beretta 950 Jetfire===<br />
A [[Beretta 950 Jetfire]] with nickel plating and pearl grips is used by the Flight Attendant Assassin ([[Josie Davis]]) in Season 3, Episode 5: "Chuck vs First Class". She notably shoves the barrel up Chuck's nose. This is most likely the same gun that was used by [[Eva Mendes]] in ''[[The Spirit]]'', since ISS supplied the weapons for that movie, as well as this show.<br />
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[[Image:Spirit950Jetfire.JPG|thumb|none|350px|A nickel Beretta 950 Jetfire (.25 ACP) supplied by Independent Studio Services for ''The Spirit''. This same gun was probably used again by Josie Davis on ''Chuck''.]]<br />
[[Image:ChuckBerettaNickelFlight.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Flight Attendant Assassin ([[Josie Davis]]) aims her nickel Beretta 950 Jetfire at Chuck in the lavatory of the 747 - .25 acp]]<br />
[[Image:ChuckBerettaNickel.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Chuck reacts to having a nickel Beretta 950 Jetfire shoved into his left nostril - .25 acp]]<br />
In the first picture it shows a stainless steel hammer, but in the second it's a black hammer. Two guns.<br />
Looks to me like it's just the lighting, and the angle. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 00:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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===1911===<br />
In the episode "Chuck Versus the Wookie" Carina ([[Mini Anden]]) opens her car's trunk to reveal several weapons, one being a stainless [[1911]].<br />
[[Image:Colt Officers ACP.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Officers ACP - .45 ACP]]<br />
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=== Norinco Type 54 / Model 213 ===<br />
Two nickel-plated [[Tokarev TT-33#Norinco Type 54 / Model 213|Norinco Type 54s]] are used by Mei-Ling Cho ([[Gwendoline Yeo]]) while trying to free her brother from the Chinese mafia in "Chuck Versus the Sizzling Shrimp" (S1E05). Later in the episode, she uses this pistol to hold Chuck at gunpoint.<br />
:''Bizarrely, while observing from inside their SUV, Casey somehow mistakes these twin pistols for Glocks. After a flash, Chuck corrects Casey, explaining that they are "Chinese Army-issue pistols."'' <br />
[[Image:Tokarev NorincoM213SS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Norinco Type 54 Model 213 with stainless steel finish - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-13.png|thumb|none|600px|Dual Norinco Type 54 / Model 213s used by Cho during the shootout]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-14.png|thumb|none|600px|Cho holds her Norinco Type 54 / Model 213 to Chuck's head]]<br />
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=== Glock 17 ===<br />
Laszlo Mahnovski disarms Agent Scary of his [[Glock 17]] in the opening scene of "Chuck Versus the Sandworm" (S1E06). Several Glock 17's are also used by Fulcrum agents in "Chuck vs. The Colonel."<br />
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:S1E06-G17.png|thumb|none|600px|Agent Scary's Glock 17]]<br />
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=== Taurus PT92 ===<br />
Bryce Larkin holds his [[Taurus PT92]] at Chuck and Sarah after breaking into Casey's apartment in "Chuck Versus the Nemesis" (S1E10).<br />
:Weapon originally misidentifed as a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]]. Berettas have the safety on the top of the slide; it's visible even from a distance. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
[[Image:TaurusPT92AFSwBlack.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Stainless Taurus PT92]]<br />
[[Image:S1E10-92FS.png|thumb|none|600px|Bryce Larkin aiming his Taurus PT92]]<br />
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=== FN Five-seveN ===<br />
The Five-seveN is the weapon of choice for operatives of the Ring. Equipped with tactical lights on their rails, Ring spies use the [[FN FiveseveN|FN Five-seveN]] in "Chuck Versus the Ring" (S2E22). A similar weapon with a laser sight is also used by Ring operative Javier in "Chuck Versus the Pink Slip" and by Sydney in "Chuck Versus Operation Awesome."<br />
[[Image:FN-FiveSeven USG.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN Five-SeveN USG (U.S. Government), 5.7x28mm. This is the most common version of the Five Seven in channels of commerce. It has a frame mounted safety and integral rails. No FN Five-seveN is issued with a threaded barrel, however, threaded barrels for sound suppressors are commercially available as an aftermarket item.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-2x22-Five-seveN-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ring operatives with their Five-seveN's aimed at Chuck.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck3x01-FiveSeven-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Javier aims his Five-seveN.]]<br />
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===Ruger KP90===<br />
In the episode "Chuck Versus the Tango" La Ciudad uses a [[Ruger P-series pistol#Ruger P90|Ruger KP90]] during the shootout at the art auction.<br />
[[Image:RugerP90Side.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Ruger KP90 - .45 ACP]]<br />
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===Walther P5===<br />
In the episode "Chuck Versus the Undercover Lover" Ilsa Trinchina ([[Ivana Milicevic]]) pulls a silver [[Walther P5]] on Casey. <br />
[[Image:Walther-P5.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Walther P5 9mm]]<br />
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===Makarov PM===<br />
In Season 3, Episode 3: "Chuck vs the Angel de la Muerte", Premier Allejandro Goya's chief officer wields a nickel plated Makarov PM Pistol - 9x18mm.<br />
[[Image:Chuck-Makarov.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Goya's aide grabs a nickel plated Makarov PM Pistol - 9x18mm]]<br />
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===Beretta 90-Two===<br />
The Beretta 90-Two is the weapon of choice for Mary Bartowski ([[Linda Hamilton]]), Chuck's mother. It is first seen in the promo for "Chuck vs. the Aisle of Terror." She wields it in a standoff with Sarah and to shoot Chuck in a restaurant. She uses it equipped with an extended magazine.<br />
[[Image:791_big_1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 90-Two - 9x19mm]]<br />
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== Submachine Guns ==<br />
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=== Heckler & Koch MP5A2 ===<br />
In the pilot episode as Bryce Larkin is stealing the Intersect computer, all members of CIA S.W.A.T. are carrying the [[Heckler & Koch MP5A2]] with SureFire dedicated forend weapon lights.<br />
[[Image:SWATMP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 9mm with Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight]]<br />
[[Image:S1E01-MP5A2.png|thumb|none|600px|CIA S.W.A.T. member firing a Heckler & Koch MP5A2]]<br />
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=== Heckler & Koch MP5K ===<br />
CIA sleeper agents carrying [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5Ks]] come to back up Casey and Sarah in "Chuck Versus the Alma Mater" (S1E07).<br />
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K 9mm]]<br />
[[Image:S1E07-MP5K.png|thumb|none|600px|CIA sleeper agents carrying Heckler & Koch MP5Ks]]<br />
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=== Micro Uzi ===<br />
La Ciudad's two henchmen fire [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzis]] at Casey and Sarah as they come to rescue Chuck in the hotel room in "Chuck Versus the Tango" (S1E03).<br />
[[Image:MicroUziPistol02.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Micro Uzi with 32 round magazine - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:S1E03-Mic_Uzi.png|thumb|none|600px|La Ciudad's henchmen firing Micro Uzis]]<br />
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===MAC-10===<br />
Many of the assassins in the restaurant in "Chuck Versus the First Date" are armed with [[MAC-10]] submachine guns. [[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ingram MAC-10 open bolt submachine gun - .45 ACP]]<br />
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== Rifles ==<br />
=== Colt M4A1 Carbine ===<br />
An armed sentry, presumably US Army, is seen holding a [[M16#M4/M4A1 Carbine|Colt M4A1]] in "Chuck Versus the Helicopter" (S1E02). CIA S.W.A.T. can also be seen carrying the M4A1, often outfitted with a variety of optics (Trijicon 4x ACOG scope, Aimpoint CompM2 red dot, and/or EOTech 552 holographic weapon sight), and SureFire tactical weapon lights.<br />
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt M4A1 Carbine - 5.56mm]]<br />
[[Image:S1E02-Colt_M4A1.png|thumb|none|600px|A soldier is seen carrying the Colt M4A1 Carbine.]]<br />
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=== AKMSU ===<br />
In Season 3, Episode 3: "Chuck vs the Angel de la Muerte", Premier Allejandro Goya's soldiers carry [[AKMSU]]s.<br />
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[[Image:AK-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMSU Krinkov - 7.62x39mm. This is a blank adapted full auto transferable AKM (7.62x39mm) pistol that was converted into a Krinkov via parts kit. Guns just like this one have been used in ''[[Tropic Thunder]]'', ''[[Three Kings]]'', and numerous other movies and TV shows.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-AKMSU.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Goya's soldiers carries an AKMSU - 7.62x39mm]]<br />
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=== Heckler & Koch G36C ===<br />
Criminals use the [[Heckler & Koch G36C]], equipped with various accessories (one has a suppressor) in "Chuck Versus the First Date" (S2E01).<br />
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Heckler & Koch G36C 5.56mm]]<br />
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=== Valmet M76F ===<br />
One of Stavros Demitrios' henchmen is seen firing a [[Valmet Assault Rifle Series|Valmet M76F]] with folding tubular stock in "Chuck Versus the Imported Hard Salami" (S1E09).<br />
[[Image:ValmetM76F.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Valmet M76F with side folding tubular stock (another blank adapted movie gun) - 5.56x45mm]]<br />
[[Image:S1E09-AK.png|thumb|600px|none|Demitrios' henchman firing a Valmet M76F (note folding tubular stock) - 5.56x45mm]]<br />
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=== Remington M40 ===<br />
La Ciudad sets up atop the Wienerlicious with a suppressed [[Remington 700#Remington M40|Remington M40]] sniper rifle in "Chuck Versus the Tango" (S1E03).<br />
:Note that it is fitted with a detachable box magazine instead of the fixed magazine. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
[[Image:M40a1standard-1-.jpg |thumb|none|300px|Remington M40 sniper rifle 7.62x51mm NATO. Although the stock photo shows the M40 in camouflage, the weapon used in S1E03 is all black, with a Harris bipod.]]<br />
[[Image:S1E03-M40.png|thumb|none|400px|La Ciudad holding a Remington M40 sniper rifle]]<br />
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=== Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle ===<br />
In Season 3, Episode 2 "Chuck vs the Three Words", hitman Karl Stromberg ([[Vinnie Jones]]) uses a [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle]] to wound a man who stole his case. (The name is an in joke since "Karl Stromberg" was the main villain in the James Bond film [[The Spy Who Loved Me]]").<br />
[[Image:Blaser93SniperRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|400px|'''Blaser R93 LRS2''' Precision Sniper Rifle - .338 Lapua Magnum. The rifle is usually outfitted with either a Parker Hale or Harris Bipod.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck BlaserR93.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Karl Stromberg ([[Vinnie Jones]]) aims a [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle]]]]<br />
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=== AK-47 ===<br />
"The best Commie rifle ever made, Comrade AK-47" is used by Casey in "Chuck vs. the Anniversary" while escaping from Volkoff's headquarters.<br />
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== Shotguns ==<br />
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===Ithaca 37===<br />
In Casey's apartment, he has a secret compartment filled with weapons. On a rack to the left are three Nickel plated Ithaca 37 shotguns with long extended magazine tubes and pistol grips - 12 gauge. They are evident as the Ithaca 37 by the shape of the mag tube endcap and the fact that there is no side ejection port.<br />
[[Image:Chuck-IthacaShotguns.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Casey runs to his hidden armory, Ithaca 37 shotguns seen on the left - 12 gauge.]]<br />
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== Machine Guns==<br />
===M134 Minigun===<br />
Preparing to leave Castle, John Casey packs up a Minigun, lamenting that he never got to use it. He later uses it while rescuing Sarah and Chuck from a Ring facility in "Chuck vs. the Pink Slip."<br />
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[[Image:Chuckminigun.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Casey packs away a Minigun]]<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
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Throughout several episodes of the show, usually whenever Chuck "flashes" on gun-runners or other criminals, the Intersect shows him pictures of large armory rooms full of guns. All of these images are pictures of the weapons vault of Independent Studio Services, the company which supplies the weapons and other props used on ''Chuck''. If you've ever been curious to known what a Hollywood prop house's armory looks like, now you know!<br />
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== Pistols ==<br />
=== Custom SIG-Sauer P229 ===<br />
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Colonel John Casey ([[Adam Baldwin]]) carries a custom [[SIG-Sauer P229]] as his sidearm, equipped with Crimson Trace laser grips, and with the flat surfaces polished on the slide, as well as the controls, trigger, and hammer. According to dialogue from "Chuck vs. the Colonel," the gun is a 9mm. Many have confused this gun with the SIG-Sauer P229R Equinox pistol (especially elsewhere on the net). The two pistols are displayed here for comparison.<br />
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Morgan Grimes is trained with this exact same weapon in "Chuck vs. the Role Models", which he identifies as a "SIG 229, 9mm, full metal jacket, with laser grips." He then explains that he learned about guns from playing first-person shooter video games.<br />
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[[Image:IMG 1680.JPG|thumb|none|300px|The actual, screen-used SIG-Sauer P229 used by Adam Baldwin on ''Chuck''. This weapon was built and supplied to the production by Independent Studio Services.]]<br />
[[Image:Sig 229r equinox.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P229R Equinox .40 S&W for comparison purposes. Note the differences between this pistol and the one used on the show. The most obvious difference is that the Equinox guns are "R" Models (i.e. they have rails). Other features that are different are the Sights, the Mag Release button, the frame & Slide and the rubber grips.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-Casey-P229.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A publicity photo of Colonel Casey with his custom SIG-Sauer P229.]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-03321.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colonel Casey chamber-checks his SIG P229 in the Pilot. The magazine used in his P229 is a 10-round "post-ban" magazine (hence the large gap and hollowed-out space in the base plate).]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-01024.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closer view of Casey's P229 from the Pilot.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-SIGPistol.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Casey's P229 in Season 3, Episode 3: "Chuck vs the Angel de la Muerte"]]<br />
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===SIG-Sauer P229R===<br />
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When Chuck ([[Zach Levi]]) takes his "Red Test" in Episode 3.11, "Chuck vs. the Final Exam", he is given a brand-new [[SIG-Sauer P229|SIG-Sauer P229R]]. It appears that this will be his issued sidearm now that he is a spy.<br />
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[[Image:SIG-SauerP229R.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG-Sauer P229R - 9x19mm (also chambered for .40 S&W & .357 SIG)]]<br />
[[Image:ChuckP229R-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of Chuck's new SIG P229R in the climax of "Chuck vs. the Final Exam".]]<br />
[[Image:Chuckotherguy.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chuck fires his gun for the first time in "Chuck vs. the Other Guy".]]<br />
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===SIG-Sauer P239===<br />
CIA Agent Alex Forrest ([[Tricia Helfer]]) is seen cleaning and wielding a two tone [[SIG-Sauer P239]] during the episode "Chuck vs. the Broken Heart".<br />
[[Image:SIGSauerP239TwoTone.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[SIG-Sauer P239]] - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-2x18-Forrest-P239-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Forrest attaches a suppressor to her weapon.]]<br />
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=== Smith & Wesson 5906 ===<br />
Agent Sarah Walker ([[Yvonne Strahovski]]) has used the [[Smith & Wesson 5906]] for the entirety of the series.<br />
[[Image:IMG 1687.JPG|thumb|none|300px|A Smith & Wesson 5906 used in ''Chuck'' - the weapon pictured here was Yvonne Strahovski's actual gun for the past two seasons of the show. It was supplied to the production by Independent Studio Services.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-AgentSarahWalker.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A publicity photo of Sarah Walker with her Smith & Wesson 5906.]]<br />
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===Heckler & Koch HK45C===<br />
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Shaw's ([[Brandon Routh]]'s) sidearm of choice is the [[Heckler & Koch HK45|Heckler & Koch HK45C]].<br />
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[[Image:HK45C.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK45C - .45 ACP]]<br />
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=== Heckler & Koch USP ===<br />
An undercover MI-6 agent is carrying a suppressed [[Heckler & Koch USP]] in "Chuck Versus the Tango" (S1E03). Also, one of the sheik's associates wields this pistol in "Chuck Versus the DeLorean" (S2E10).<br />
[[Image:USP9mm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch USP 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:S1E03-USP_Supp.png|thumb|none|600px|MI-6 Agent holding his suppressed Heckler & Koch USP]]<br />
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===Heckler & Koch USP Compact===<br />
Ellie ([[Sarah Lancaster]]) retrieves a two tone USP Compact from a speaker box she received from Ring agent Justin Sullivan ([[Scott Holroyd]]) when she hears someone in the house.<br />
[[Image:USPCompact9.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[Heckler & Koch USP Compact]] - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-3x17-Ellie-USP.C-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ellie handles the USP Compact.]]<br />
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=== IMI Jericho 941 ===<br />
La Ciudad's bodyguard holds his [[Jericho 941]] to Chuck's back in "Chuck Versus the Tango" (S1E03). A stainless version is pointed at Chuck by another of La Ciudad's bodyguards before Casey knocks him out with a microwave.<br />
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Sarah uses one at Weap-con in "Chuck vs. the Nacho Sampler."<br />
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[[Image:Jericho941FullSize.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Jericho 941 - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-7.png|thumb|none|600px|La Ciudad's bodyguard holds his Jericho 941 to Chuck's back.]]<br />
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=== IMI Desert Eagle Mark I ===<br />
Peyman Alahi and his henchmen draw their Chrome Silver and Golden [[Desert Eagle|IMI Desert Eagle Mark I]] throughout "Chuck Versus the Wookie" (S1E04). It is very likely that the gold Desert Eagle wielded by Peyman Alahi was one of the same guns built for ''[[Austin Powers in Goldmember]]'', although the ivory grips were removed for this show. Independent Studio Services, the armorers who supplied the weapons for ''Chuck'', also supplied weapons to ''Goldmember''. Casey uses a similar gun, possibly the same one, at Weap-con in "Chuck vs. the Nacho Sampler." Sarah takes a stainless steel Desert Eagle with her on a mission in "Chuck vs. the Anniversary" but is not seen using it.<br />
[[Image:DesertEagleMarkIstainless.jpg|thumb|none|390px|Matte stainless Desert Eagle MK I - .357 Magnum]]<br />
[[Image:AustinPowersGoldmemberDeagleScreenused.JPG|thumb|400px|none|A gold-plated Desert Eagle Mark I in .357 Magnum, as used by Mike Myers in ''[[Austin Powers in Goldmember]]''. This may be the same gun that is used by Peyman Alahi in "Chuck Versus the Wookie", although the ivory grips (which are fragile) would have been removed for this show.]]<br />
[[Image:S1E04-DE.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Chrome Silver and Golden Desert Eagle Mark I carried by Peyman Alahi's henchmen]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-00037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of Peyman Alahi holding one of his henchmen's Desert Eagles (gold) on Sarah. Clearly visible in this snapshot is the safety of the Mark I (which was changed on later-model Desert Eagles).]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-00038.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A chrome Desert Eagle is held on Sarah.]]<br />
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===Smith & Wesson 3913 "Ladysmith"===<br />
In the episode "Chuck Versus the Wookie" Carina ([[Mini Anden]]) opens her car's trunk to reveal several weapons, one being a [[Smith & Wesson 3913#Smith & Wesson 3913 "Ladysmith"|Smith & Wesson 3913 "Ladysmith"]]. This gun was later used by Jill Roberts ([[Jordana Brewster]]) in the episode "Chuck Versus the Gravitron".<br />
[[Image:S&W Model 3913.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson 3913 LS "Ladysmith" 9x19mm.]]<br />
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===Beretta 950 Jetfire===<br />
A [[Beretta 950 Jetfire]] with nickel plating and pearl grips is used by the Flight Attendant Assassin ([[Josie Davis]]) in Season 3, Episode 5: "Chuck vs First Class". She notably shoves the barrel up Chuck's nose. This is most likely the same gun that was used by [[Eva Mendes]] in ''[[The Spirit]]'', since ISS supplied the weapons for that movie, as well as this show.<br />
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[[Image:Spirit950Jetfire.JPG|thumb|none|350px|A nickel Beretta 950 Jetfire (.25 ACP) supplied by Independent Studio Services for ''The Spirit''. This same gun was probably used again by Josie Davis on ''Chuck''.]]<br />
[[Image:ChuckBerettaNickelFlight.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Flight Attendant Assassin ([[Josie Davis]]) aims her nickel Beretta 950 Jetfire at Chuck in the lavatory of the 747 - .25 acp]]<br />
[[Image:ChuckBerettaNickel.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Chuck reacts to having a nickel Beretta 950 Jetfire shoved into his left nostril - .25 acp]]<br />
In the first picture it shows a stainless steel hammer, but in the second it's a black hammer. Two guns.<br />
Looks to me like it's just the lighting, and the angle. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 00:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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===1911===<br />
In the episode "Chuck Versus the Wookie" Carina ([[Mini Anden]]) opens her car's trunk to reveal several weapons, one being a stainless [[1911]].<br />
[[Image:Colt Officers ACP.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Officers ACP - .45 ACP]]<br />
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=== Norinco Type 54 / Model 213 ===<br />
Two nickel-plated [[Tokarev TT-33#Norinco Type 54 / Model 213|Norinco Type 54s]] are used by Mei-Ling Cho ([[Gwendoline Yeo]]) while trying to free her brother from the Chinese mafia in "Chuck Versus the Sizzling Shrimp" (S1E05). Later in the episode, she uses this pistol to hold Chuck at gunpoint.<br />
:''Bizarrely, while observing from inside their SUV, Casey somehow mistakes these twin pistols for Glocks. After a flash, Chuck corrects Casey, explaining that they are "Chinese Army-issue pistols."'' <br />
[[Image:Tokarev NorincoM213SS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Norinco Type 54 Model 213 with stainless steel finish - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-13.png|thumb|none|600px|Dual Norinco Type 54 / Model 213s used by Cho during the shootout]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-14.png|thumb|none|600px|Cho holds her Norinco Type 54 / Model 213 to Chuck's head]]<br />
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=== Glock 17 ===<br />
Laszlo Mahnovski disarms Agent Scary of his [[Glock 17]] in the opening scene of "Chuck Versus the Sandworm" (S1E06). Several Glock 17's are also used by Fulcrum agents in "Chuck vs. The Colonel."<br />
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 17 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:S1E06-G17.png|thumb|none|600px|Agent Scary's Glock 17]]<br />
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=== Taurus PT92 ===<br />
Bryce Larkin holds his [[Taurus PT92]] at Chuck and Sarah after breaking into Casey's apartment in "Chuck Versus the Nemesis" (S1E10).<br />
:Weapon originally misidentifed as a [[Beretta 92FS Inox]]. Berettas have the safety on the top of the slide; it's visible even from a distance. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
[[Image:TaurusPT92AFSwBlack.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Stainless Taurus PT92]]<br />
[[Image:S1E10-92FS.png|thumb|none|600px|Bryce Larkin aiming his Taurus PT92]]<br />
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=== FN Five-seveN ===<br />
The Five-seveN is the weapon of choice for operatives of the Ring. Equipped with tactical lights on their rails, Ring spies use the [[FN FiveseveN|FN Five-seveN]] in "Chuck Versus the Ring" (S2E22). A similar weapon with a laser sight is also used by Ring operative Javier in "Chuck Versus the Pink Slip" and by Sydney in "Chuck Versus Operation Awesome."<br />
[[Image:FN-FiveSeven USG.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN Five-SeveN USG (U.S. Government), 5.7x28mm. This is the most common version of the Five Seven in channels of commerce. It has a frame mounted safety and integral rails. No FN Five-seveN is issued with a threaded barrel, however, threaded barrels for sound suppressors are commercially available as an aftermarket item.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-2x22-Five-seveN-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ring operatives with their Five-seveN's aimed at Chuck.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck3x01-FiveSeven-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Javier aims his Five-seveN.]]<br />
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===Ruger KP90===<br />
In the episode "Chuck Versus the Tango" La Ciudad uses a [[Ruger P-series pistol#Ruger P90|Ruger KP90]] during the shootout at the art auction.<br />
[[Image:RugerP90Side.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Ruger KP90 - .45 ACP]]<br />
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===Walther P5===<br />
In the episode "Chuck Versus the Undercover Lover" Ilsa Trinchina ([[Ivana Milicevic]]) pulls a silver [[Walther P5]] on Casey. <br />
[[Image:Walther-P5.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Walther P5 9mm]]<br />
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===Makarov PM===<br />
In Season 3, Episode 3: "Chuck vs the Angel de la Muerte", Premier Allejandro Goya's chief officer wields a nickel plated Makarov PM Pistol - 9x18mm.<br />
[[Image:Chuck-Makarov.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Goya's aide grabs a nickel plated Makarov PM Pistol - 9x18mm]]<br />
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===Beretta 90-Two===<br />
The Beretta 90-Two is the weapon of choice for Mary Bartowski [[Linda Hamilton]], Chuck's mother. It is first seen in the promo for "Chuck vs. the Aisle of Terror." She wields it in a standoff with Sarah and to shoot Chuck in a restaurant. She uses it equipped with an extended magazine.<br />
[[Image:791_big_1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beretta 90-Two - 9x19mm]]<br />
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== Submachine Guns ==<br />
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=== Heckler & Koch MP5A2 ===<br />
In the pilot episode as Bryce Larkin is stealing the Intersect computer, all members of CIA S.W.A.T. are carrying the [[Heckler & Koch MP5A2]] with SureFire dedicated forend weapon lights.<br />
[[Image:SWATMP5.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 9mm with Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight]]<br />
[[Image:S1E01-MP5A2.png|thumb|none|600px|CIA S.W.A.T. member firing a Heckler & Koch MP5A2]]<br />
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=== Heckler & Koch MP5K ===<br />
CIA sleeper agents carrying [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5Ks]] come to back up Casey and Sarah in "Chuck Versus the Alma Mater" (S1E07).<br />
[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K 9mm]]<br />
[[Image:S1E07-MP5K.png|thumb|none|600px|CIA sleeper agents carrying Heckler & Koch MP5Ks]]<br />
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=== Micro Uzi ===<br />
La Ciudad's two henchmen fire [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzis]] at Casey and Sarah as they come to rescue Chuck in the hotel room in "Chuck Versus the Tango" (S1E03).<br />
[[Image:MicroUziPistol02.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Micro Uzi with 32 round magazine - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:S1E03-Mic_Uzi.png|thumb|none|600px|La Ciudad's henchmen firing Micro Uzis]]<br />
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===MAC-10===<br />
Many of the assassins in the restaurant in "Chuck Versus the First Date" are armed with [[MAC-10]] submachine guns. [[Image:IngramMAC10.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Ingram MAC-10 open bolt submachine gun - .45 ACP]]<br />
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== Rifles ==<br />
=== Colt M4A1 Carbine ===<br />
An armed sentry, presumably US Army, is seen holding a [[M16#M4/M4A1 Carbine|Colt M4A1]] in "Chuck Versus the Helicopter" (S1E02). CIA S.W.A.T. can also be seen carrying the M4A1, often outfitted with a variety of optics (Trijicon 4x ACOG scope, Aimpoint CompM2 red dot, and/or EOTech 552 holographic weapon sight), and SureFire tactical weapon lights.<br />
[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt M4A1 Carbine - 5.56mm]]<br />
[[Image:S1E02-Colt_M4A1.png|thumb|none|600px|A soldier is seen carrying the Colt M4A1 Carbine.]]<br />
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=== AKMSU ===<br />
In Season 3, Episode 3: "Chuck vs the Angel de la Muerte", Premier Allejandro Goya's soldiers carry [[AKMSU]]s.<br />
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[[Image:AK-Krinkov.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMSU Krinkov - 7.62x39mm. This is a blank adapted full auto transferable AKM (7.62x39mm) pistol that was converted into a Krinkov via parts kit. Guns just like this one have been used in ''[[Tropic Thunder]]'', ''[[Three Kings]]'', and numerous other movies and TV shows.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck-AKMSU.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Goya's soldiers carries an AKMSU - 7.62x39mm]]<br />
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=== Heckler & Koch G36C ===<br />
Criminals use the [[Heckler & Koch G36C]], equipped with various accessories (one has a suppressor) in "Chuck Versus the First Date" (S2E01).<br />
[[Image:Hkg36c.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Heckler & Koch G36C 5.56mm]]<br />
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=== Valmet M76F ===<br />
One of Stavros Demitrios' henchmen is seen firing a [[Valmet Assault Rifle Series|Valmet M76F]] with folding tubular stock in "Chuck Versus the Imported Hard Salami" (S1E09).<br />
[[Image:ValmetM76F.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Valmet M76F with side folding tubular stock (another blank adapted movie gun) - 5.56x45mm]]<br />
[[Image:S1E09-AK.png|thumb|600px|none|Demitrios' henchman firing a Valmet M76F (note folding tubular stock) - 5.56x45mm]]<br />
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=== Remington M40 ===<br />
La Ciudad sets up atop the Wienerlicious with a suppressed [[Remington 700#Remington M40|Remington M40]] sniper rifle in "Chuck Versus the Tango" (S1E03).<br />
:Note that it is fitted with a detachable box magazine instead of the fixed magazine. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
[[Image:M40a1standard-1-.jpg |thumb|none|300px|Remington M40 sniper rifle 7.62x51mm NATO. Although the stock photo shows the M40 in camouflage, the weapon used in S1E03 is all black, with a Harris bipod.]]<br />
[[Image:S1E03-M40.png|thumb|none|400px|La Ciudad holding a Remington M40 sniper rifle]]<br />
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=== Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle ===<br />
In Season 3, Episode 2 "Chuck vs the Three Words", hitman Karl Stromberg ([[Vinnie Jones]]) uses a [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle]] to wound a man who stole his case. (The name is an in joke since "Karl Stromberg" was the main villain in the James Bond film [[The Spy Who Loved Me]]").<br />
[[Image:Blaser93SniperRifleA.jpg|thumb|none|400px|'''Blaser R93 LRS2''' Precision Sniper Rifle - .338 Lapua Magnum. The rifle is usually outfitted with either a Parker Hale or Harris Bipod.]]<br />
[[Image:Chuck BlaserR93.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Karl Stromberg ([[Vinnie Jones]]) aims a [[Blaser R93 Sniper Rifle]]]]<br />
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=== AK-47 ===<br />
"The best Commie rifle ever made, Comrade AK-47" is used by Casey in "Chuck vs. the Anniversary" while escaping from Volkoff's headquarters.<br />
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== Shotguns ==<br />
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===Ithaca 37===<br />
In Casey's apartment, he has a secret compartment filled with weapons. On a rack to the left are three Nickel plated Ithaca 37 shotguns with long extended magazine tubes and pistol grips - 12 gauge. They are evident as the Ithaca 37 by the shape of the mag tube endcap and the fact that there is no side ejection port.<br />
[[Image:Chuck-IthacaShotguns.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Casey runs to his hidden armory, Ithaca 37 shotguns seen on the left - 12 gauge.]]<br />
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== Machine Guns==<br />
===M134 Minigun===<br />
Preparing to leave Castle, John Casey packs up a Minigun, lamenting that he never got to use it. He later uses it while rescuing Sarah and Chuck from a Ring facility in "Chuck vs. the Pink Slip."<br />
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[[Image:Chuckminigun.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Casey packs away a Minigun]]<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
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Throughout several episodes of the show, usually whenever Chuck "flashes" on gun-runners or other criminals, the Intersect shows him pictures of large armory rooms full of guns. All of these images are pictures of the weapons vault of Independent Studio Services, the company which supplies the weapons and other props used on ''Chuck''. If you've ever been curious to known what a Hollywood prop house's armory looks like, now you know!<br />
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-00027.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Here there are several Walther PPK's and PPK/S's, SIG-Sauer P230's and P232's, also, several Luger P08's in the background.]]<br />
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[[Category:Mystery]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Firewall&diff=356510Talk:Firewall2010-11-16T21:18:02Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>Those MP5Ks look more like modified SP89s to me. I can't see a paddle release or the fire selector markings. [[User:98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]]<br />
:Uh what? Yeah they do. :) Take a closer look. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]<br />
Haha oops. I stand corrected. xD -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 21:18, 16 November 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Firewall&diff=356468Talk:Firewall2010-11-16T19:22:22Z<p>98.118.59.151: New page: Those MP5Ks look more like modified SP89s to me. I can't see a paddle release or the fire selector markings.</p>
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<div>Those MP5Ks look more like modified SP89s to me. I can't see a paddle release or the fire selector markings.</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Pirates_of_the_Caribbean:_The_Curse_of_the_Black_Pearl&diff=347031Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl2010-10-23T12:58:47Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* .50 cal English Flintlock */</p>
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<div>''Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl'' is the 2003 film adaptation of the popular Disneyland ride. The film stars [[Johnny Depp]] in his now iconic role as pirate Captain Jack Sparrow. The film would spawn three more films: ''[[Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest]]'' (2006) and ''[[Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End]]'' (2007), and Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011).<br />
{{Film Title|Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl}}<br />
[[Image:POTC poster.jpg|thumb|300px|right|''Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl'' (2003)]]<br />
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==Flintlock Pistol==<br />
Several versions of the [[Flintlock Pistol]] are used by numerous characters in the film.<br />
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===.50 cal English Flintlock===<br />
Captain Jack Sparrow ([[Johnny Depp]]) carries a .50 caliber English [[Flintlock Pistol]] as his sidearm. He draws it several times, but is reluctant to use because he is saving his last shot for his traitorous shipmate Barbossa. Jack's pistol is not a reproduction but a real 17th century flintlock.<br />
[[Image:Sparroflintlock.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Replica Flintlock based on the Flintlock used by Johnny Depp in the film.]]<br />
[[Image:POTC 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Captain Jack Sparrow ([[Johnny Depp]]) holds his [[Flintlock Pistol]] on Elizabeth Swann ([[Keira Knightley]]).]]<br />
[[Image:POTC 09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jack pulls his Flintlock on Will Turner.]]<br />
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===Tower Sea Service Pistol===<br />
The Tower Sea Service Pistol is seen primarily used by Capt. James Norrington ([[Jack Davenport]]).<br />
[[Image:TowerSeaServicePistol.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Tower Sea Service Pistol used by the Royal Navy.]]<br />
[[Image:POTC 25.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Tower Sea Service Pistol is fired by Capt. James Norrington ([[Jack Davenport]]).]]<br />
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===Spanish Miqulet Flintlock Pistol===<br />
A Spanish Miqulet Flintlock Pistol Flintlock pistol is carried by Capt. Hector Barbossa ([[Geoffrey Rush]]).<br />
[[Image:Flintlockpistol.gif|thumb|none|400px]]<br />
[[Image:POTC 22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Hector Barbossa ([[Geoffrey Rush]]) pulls his Flintlock.]]<br />
[[Image:POTC 20.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Barbossa fires his Flintlock to see whether the curse has been lifted.]]<br />
[[Image:POTC 42.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Will Turner threatens to kill himself with the Flintlock pistol.]]<br />
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===French Cavalry Flintlock Pistol===<br />
Anamaria ([[Zoe Saldana]]) is briefly seen pulling a [[Flintlock Pistol|French Cavalry Flintlock Pistol]] on Elizabeth.<br />
[[Image:Frenchcavalryflintlock.jpg|thumb|none|400px]]<br />
[[Image:POTC 32.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Anamaria ([[Zoe Saldana]]) is briefly seen pulling a [[Flintlock Pistol|French Cavalry Flintlock Pistol]] on Elizabeth.]]<br />
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===Double Barreled Flintlock Pistol===<br />
A Double Barreled Flintlock pistol is primarily used by the pirate Pintel ([[Lee Arenberg]]) in the film.<br />
[[Image:POTC 19.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pintel ([[Lee Arenberg]]) pulls the Double Barreled Flintlock pistol on Elizabeth.]]<br />
[[Image:POTC 38.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pintel with his Double Barreled Flintlock pistol.]]<br />
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==Blunderbuss Flintlock==<br />
A [[Blunderbuss]] Flintlock is used by members of Jack's crew when engaging the Black Pearl.<br />
[[Image:Blun Flint.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Blunderbuss Flintlock]]<br />
[[Image:POTC 37.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A [[Blunderbuss]] Flintlock is used by members of Jack's crew when engaging the Black Pearl.]]<br />
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==Brown Bess Musket==<br />
British soldiers are seen using the [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket]]. It's also used by members of Jack's crew as well as Will Turner ([[Orlando Bloom]]) and Elizabeth Swann ([[Keira Knightley]]).<br />
[[Image:BrownBessInfantry-Musket-1722-1768.jpg|thumb|none|600px|British Long Land Pattern Brown Bess - .75 cal]]<br />
[[Image:POTC 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|British soldiers are seen firing their [[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket]]s as Captain Jack makes his escape.]]<br />
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[[Category:Disney]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Matrix&diff=343963Talk:The Matrix2010-10-17T16:47:17Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>== Mouse's rotary shotguns ==<br />
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John Bowring, Armourer for The Matrix, sent the below email to madogre regarding the guns.<br />
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''"I made & supplied the guns for the Matrix <br />
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1) Mouses guns are custom made electrically driven 12g that run at 900RPM<br /><br />
2) I chose Beretta 84's for Trinity as you said good little sister to Nios<br />
92's.<br /><br />
3) Larry & Andy the directors of the matrix asked me who uses a 50AE desert<br />
eagle I Said " A Wanka" there reply no who are they maid for I said "<br />
Wankers" there reply are wankers in this film want Desert eagles My reply<br />
your film.<br /><br />
4) Wardrobe mistress wonted to change Switches pistol as she had and "I<br />
quote her designed the pistols for Romeo & Juliet" my reply stick to<br />
designing wardrobes. (Beside the funding for Romeo & Juliet was got by<br />
doing a small section of it to show what it would be like for which "I"<br />
suppled Stainless steel Beretta and that is what set the tone for the guns<br />
in Romeo & Juliet)<br />
You never know whose out there<br />
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John Bowring"''<br />
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[[User:Bunni|bunni]] 14:47, 6 July 2007 (UTC<br />
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== .50 Caliber ==<br />
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another point on the .50 Desert Eagles, the .44 mag and .357 mag desert eagles have fluted barrels (where the handle meets them and the barrels go from a box cross-section to a more octagonal cross-section) and the ones in the screenshots have none. As a source for this I would cite the official product page[http://www.magnumresearch.com/Expand.asp?ProductCode=Black-6] in the product info for the mark XIX desert eagle, and possibly compare them to the .357 mag on the 10-inch below it [http://www.magnumresearch.com/Expand.asp?ProductCode=Black-10]<br />
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:I thought only the .44 Magnum version of the Mark XIX had the fluted barrel? Or at least, the Mark I and Mark VII in .357 Magnum didn't have the fluted barrel, I dunno about the Mark XIX as I've never seen/handled one in .357. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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--I'm not too sure that these are .50AE. If anything, the agents have fired much more than the 7 rounds in a .50 Desert Eagle, and there is barely any recoil as a .50 would. I would say that it would be a Deagle chambered in .357 Magnum instead. If I am mistaken, I stand corrected. --[[User:Blemo|Blemo]] 21:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:They are most definitely the .50 AE version. That is without doubt a .50-cal bore in the third screenshot; the .357 bore is much smaller. The armorer who worked on the movie, John Bowring, has also said they are the .50 AE version in interviews. The reason there's so little recoil is because the actors are firing blanks (as you can also see in the last image), and blanks have much less recoil than live rounds. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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::Also, the fact that the agents fired many more then seven shots is irrelevant. This is the matrix, after all, where a submachine gun with a thirty round mag can fire at least a hundred shots without running dry. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 21:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The UMP you are referring to is just one example of a "hack" weapon that doesn't apply to the rules of Matrix, but most guns do, which is weird cause why are Neo's, Trinity's, etc. Why are their guns not unlimited or nearly bottomless. Morpheus was seen reloading his Glock twice. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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::Exactly, the whole, "anything's possible because it's the Matrix" is a copout answer when you consider the inconsistencies related to guns. And anyway, I really don't care about that stuff anyway. This is IMFDB. We're concerned with the the behind-the-scenes reality, not the the movie universe. Save that shit for some Matrix fanboy site. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 05:02, 19 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== M1911A1 ==<br />
The page is missing one more gun. During the rooftop scene when Neo and Trinity are fighting several soldiers, I noticed the guy who tries to shoot Trinity is holding what appears to be a M1911A1.<br />
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== Military controlled Building's Security == <br />
Are the lobby guards and the backup soldiers are really classified as bad guys? And when the lobby guard said to send backup, was he really calling the agents?<br />
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In the film, Morpheus mentions that anyone can become an agent, which is why you see Trinity take out the seemingly innocent cops at the beginning. The security guard was just calling up the SWAT and not the agents. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 01:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:To add onto what Ben said, nod, the security guards aren't bad guys. However, it's possible for them to become agents at any time, and besides, they would stand in the way of rescuing Morpheus if there weren't taken care of. Therefore, it was neccesary, and more interesting, for Neo and Trinity to fight them. [[User:Acora|Acora]] 22:08, 18 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The stupid part is that since this is the Matrix, they never explain what they can and cannot bring with them or just simply call up. If they could bring up as many guns they could carry, why not summon a car or a helicopter. They needlessly did a drawn out shootout and ended up getting a helicopter at the roof [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
:Because it looks cool.<br />
[[User:Greywolverene|Greywolverene]]<br />
[[Image:The_Matrix_Morpheus_Unhurt.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|The Agents are dead and the room destroyed but Morpheus is miraculously unhurt. Moments, later when he attempts to jump into the helicopter, Smith fires his Desert Eagle blindly through a wall wounding Morpheus in the leg.]]<br />
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==Mouse's Shotguns==<br />
Would one of the admins mind linking this article to [[(The Matrix) - Mouse's Shotguns]]? I'm trying to cut down on the number of orphaned and dead-end pages.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 14:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Picture Caption==<br />
Whoever wrote the caption on the last Desert Eagle picture is probably not aware of the magic of film editing. Assuming he is talking about the shot in that picture, the probably simply took a shot of the Desert Eagle firing and then edited it in to make it look like he was getting shot. As I recall, the movie never actually showed Keanu next to the Desert Eagle in that scene. -- K[[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 16:47, 17 October 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=CSI:_NY&diff=343900CSI: NY2010-10-17T13:16:23Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* SIG-Sauer P220 Elite */</p>
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<div>'''The Following weapons have appeared in the television series ''CSI: NY'':'''<br />
[[Image:CSINYPoster.jpg |thumb|300px|right|''CSI: NY'' (2004-????)]]<br />
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'''Warning: Spoilers are in this article.'''<br />
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==Glock 17==<br />
Two of the CSIs use 2nd Generation [[Glock 17]] pistols throughout the series, notably Det. Mac Taylor ([[Gary Sinise]]) and Det. Danny Messer ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) carry [[Glock#Glock 17|Glock 17]]s. Chief Brigham Sinclair ([[Mykelti Williamson]]) is seen with one in a few episodes. Some of the uniformed NYPD Officers, as well as random crooks and other characters use [[Glock 17]]s as well. In recent episodes, 3rd Generation Glock 17s begin to make appearances.<br />
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[[Image:Glock17EarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Generation 2 Glock 17 9x19mm.]]<br />
[[Image:Glock173rdGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Generation 3 Glock 17 9x19mm. Note the finger grooves, thumb reliefs, and accessory rail on the frame, which differentiate it from the older model.]]<br />
[[Image:MesserCSINY.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Det. Danny Messer ([[Carmine Giovinazzo]]) with his 2nd generation Glock 17 in "Live or Let Die", Season 2.]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-127144.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mac Taylor ([[Gary Sinise]]) with a Glock 17 in "Manhattan Manhunt".]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-130234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of Mac ([[Gary Sinise]]) with his Glock 17 in "Manhattan Manhunt".]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-327183.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Messer draws his Glock 17 in "Snow Day".]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-33656.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A flashback to the events of the CSI: Miami episode "Felony Flight" shown in "Manhattan Manhunt".]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-128394.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Horatio Caine ([[David Caruso]]) takes a Glock 17 from a bouncer in "Manhattan Manhunt".]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-42224.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Glock 17 on display in the forensics lab.]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-47977.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Charge of This Post"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-48885.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Charge of This Post"]]<br />
[[Image:CSINYTaylorGlock.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Mac Taylor aims his Glock 17]]<br />
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== Glock 26 == <br />
Det. Stella Bonasera ([[Melina Kanakaredes]]), Det. Lindsay Monroe ([[Anna Belknap]]), and Det. Jo Danville ([[Sela Ward]]) carry [[Glock 26]]s as their sidearms. <br />
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[[Image:Glock 26.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 26 - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-129217.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Detective Bonasera with her Glock 26 in "Manhattan Manhunt".]]<br />
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== Glock 19 ==<br />
Det. Donald Flack Jr. ([[Eddie Cahill]]), Det. Aiden Burn ([[Vanessa Ferlito]]), Det./Dr. Sheldon Hawkes ([[Hill Harper]]) (After he becomes a detective), Det. Jessica Angell ([[Emmanuelle Vaugier]]), and some of the uniformed NYPD officers are seen using 2nd Generation [[Glock#Glock 19|Glock 19]]s as their main pistol in many episodes of the show (Though sometimes they carry Glock 17s). NYPD Chief Inspector Stanton Gerrard ([[Carmen Argenziano]]) is seen with one in a few episodes, notably in the episode "Admissions". In recent episodes, notably "Cuckoo's Nest", the 3rd Generation Model starts to appear. Note that in real life, the Glock 19 is one of the sidearms of the NYPD.<br />
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[[Image:Glock19 2ndGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 19 (2nd Generation) - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:Glock19pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Glock 19 (3rd Generation) - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-127291.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Flack ([[Eddie Cahill]]) with his [[Glock 19]] in the episode "Manhattan Manhunt".]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-127344.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another Shot of Flack with his [[Glock 19]] from "Manhattan Manhunt".]]<br />
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== Ruger LCR (Light Compact Revolver) ==<br />
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The [[Ruger LCR]] is Flack's back up weapon in the episode "Cuckoo's Nest", drawing it while drunk on a subway, only to drop it when he points it at two gangsters, only for Terrence Davis ([[Nelly]]) to pick it up and use it to force them away from Flack.<br />
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[[Image:Lcr stand.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger LCR .38 Special+P]]<br />
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== SIG-Sauer P220 Elite ==<br />
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Starting in the Episode "The 34th Floor", Det. Flack is seen carrying a stainless SIG-Sauer P220 Elite as his sidearm which is clearly shown to be an elite by the presence of the beavertail on the rear of the frame. It appears to have wood or brown synthetic grips.<br />
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[[Image:SigP220RSilver.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P220ST pistol - .45 ACP. New model P220 with rails and Hogue Grips]]<br />
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== SIG-Sauer P226 ==<br />
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The [[SIG-Sauer P226]] has been seen in some episodes; DHS agents in "Charge of This Post" carry them. In the episode "Manhattan Manhunt", Henry Darius ([[James Badge Dale]]) uses a P226 to hold Alexa Endecott ([[Peyton List]]) hostage.<br />
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[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG-Sauer P226 9mm]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-47214.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Charge of This Post"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-123965.jpg|thumb|none|600px|([[James Badge Dale]]) From "Manhattan Manhunt"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-124329.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Manhattan Manhunt"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-125457.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Manhattan Manhunt"]]<br />
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When Darius executes all of the prep school kids in Alexa's house, his P226 becomes one of the [["Non Guns"#SIG-Sauer|"Non Gun"]] SIG-Sauer replicas, undoubtedly used because at the range of the shots, blanks would be too dangerous:<br />
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[[Image:SIGnon-gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SIG-Sauer Non Gun]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-125658.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Manhattan Manhunt"]]<br />
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Two-tone [[SIG-Sauer P226]]s appear frequently in the series, notably in the episode "Cuckoo's Nest", being used by a pair of gangbangers that come to the home of Terrence Davis ([[Nelly]]), which he takes and holds on them until he convinces them to leave, trying to prevent them from discovering Det. Flack hiding there.<br />
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[[Image:SigP226TwoTone03.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Two-tone SIG-Sauer P226 9x19mm]]<br />
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== SIG-Sauer P228 ==<br />
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A two-tone [[SIG-Sauer P228]] is seen in the episode "Stealing Home", which is stolen by an angry wife and kills her husband with it, using a .32 caliber round with a copper jacket, allowing the round to work in the 9x19mm handgun. <br />
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[[Image:Two Tone Sig Sauer P228.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Two Tone SIG-Sauer P228 - 9x19mm]]<br />
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==SIG-Sauer P229==<br />
Miami Dade Police Department Lt. Horatio Caine ([[David Caruso]]) is seen with his [[SIG-Sauer P229]] during the episode "Manhattan Manhunt".<br />
[[Image:SIG-SauerP229R.jpg|thumb|none|300px|[[SIG-Sauer P229|SIG-Sauer P229R]] - 9x19mm (Also chambered for .40 S&W & .357 SIG)]]<br />
[[Image:CSI-NY-Horatio-P229-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Horatio holding his SIG.]]<br />
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== M16A2 ==<br />
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There are several appearances of the [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2]] assault rifle throughout the series. In the episode "Heroes", U.S. Marines can be seen armed with M16A2's fitted with ACOG scopes during a tactical demonstration during Fleet Week, a few also being fitted with M203 grenade launchers. In the episode "Charge of This Post", a bomber named Dean Lessing ([[Eion Bailey]]) who was denied enlistment into the Marine Corps fires on the protagonists and holds a Homeland Security agent ([[Tembi Locke]]) at gunpoint with one before being talked into surrendering his weapon.<br />
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[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-272986.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Heroes"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-273586.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Heroes"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-273148.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Heroes"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-48986.jpg|thumb|none|600px|([[Eion Bailey]]) From "Charge of This Post"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49201.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Charge of This Post"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-50322.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Charge of This Post"]]<br />
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==Cobray CM203 Launcher==<br />
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In the episode "Heroes", several U.S. Marines can be seen armed with M16A2 rifles fitted with [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Cobray CM203 Launcher]]s (standing in for the M203) during a tactical demonstration during Fleet Week.<br />
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[[Image:M16A1wNewCM203.jpg|thumb|none|400px|An M16A1 fitted with a Cobray CM203 Launcher - 37mm Flare.]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-272744.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Heroes"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-273920.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Heroes"]]<br />
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== AR15A2 HBAR ==<br />
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In one episode, an [[M16 rifle series|AR15A2 HBAR]] is used to murder a mounted N.Y.P.D. officer and later the murderer's accomplice when he threatens to go to the police.<br />
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[[Image:ColtGovtModHBAR.jpg|thumb|none|350px|AR15A2 HBAR 5.56x45mm]]<br />
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== M16A1 ==<br />
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In the episode "Charge of This Post", in Mac's flashbacks to his days in the Marine Corps, he and many Marines are seen armed with [[M16A1]] rifles with A2 style handguards.<br />
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[[Image:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with A2 style handguards - 5.56x45mm.]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-43038.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Charge of this Post"]]<br />
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== M249 SAW ==<br />
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In the episode "Heroes", one of the Marines involved in the tactical demonstration can be seen armed with an [[FN Minimi#M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249 SAW]].<br />
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[[Image:Fn_m249saw_mk2_10-1-.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M249 SAW 5.56x45mm with 200 round ammo drum]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-273429.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Heroes"]]<br />
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== Mk 19 Grenade Launcher ==<br />
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Also visible at the Fleet Day celebration in "Heroes" is a [[Mk 19 grenade launcher]], fitted to an M113.<br />
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[[Image:MK19-02.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Mk 19 grenade launcher 40mm]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-274122.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Heroes"]]<br />
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== M40A1 Sniper Rifle ==<br />
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An [[Remington 700#M40 Sniper Rifle|M40 sniper rifle]] is also visible in the episode "Heroes".<br />
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[[Image:M40a1standard-1-.jpg|thumb|none|300px|M40 sniper rifle - 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-274276.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Marine looks through the scope of an M40 sniper rifle in "Heroes"]]<br />
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== Ithaca 37 ==<br />
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In the episode "Silent Night", an [[Ithaca 37]] can be seen being fired into a ballistics tank, and is called an "M37" by Detective Mac Taylor ([[Gary Sinise]]). In the episode "Boo", an Ithaca 37 is identified as a murder weapon and can be shown being test-fired during the investigation.<br />
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[[Image:IthacaModel37.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Ithaca Model 37 riot version 12 gauge]]<br />
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== M1911A1 ==<br />
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In the episode "Hostage", a bank robber named Ethan Scott ([[Elias Koteas]]) can be seen armed with an [[M1911 pistol series#M1911A1|M1911A1]] pistol as his main weapon. He starts the robbery by firing a shot into the ceiling and ordering everyone to the floor. At one point Detective Taylor manages to comandeer the weapon and unloads it, giving the weapon back to the robber empty when they leave the bank under the premise of trying to find people who are forcing the robber to do this with his family as hostages, only to find himself as a hostage again when the robber reloads the gun with a single round hidden in his clothes.<br />
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[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Colt M1911A1 .45 ACP]]<br />
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== Colt Commander ==<br />
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In the episodes "Down the Rabbit Hole" and "DOA for a Day", an assassin known as "Suspect X" ([[Kam Heskin]]) carries a [[M1911 pistol series#Colt Commander|Colt Commander]] with chrome finish, pearl grips, and a suppressor as her main weapon of choice. She notably uses it to kill a Congressman and later shoots a hostage in the leg with it in "Down the Rabbit Hole", and uses it again in "DOA for a Day" notably when she gets into a gunfight with Mac in the climax of the episode, using it until she is wounded in the chest by a round from Mac's [[Glock 17]]. <br />
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[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Commander M1991A1 - .45 ACP.]]<br />
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== Heckler & Koch MP5 ==<br />
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Most N.Y.P.D. ESU officers can be seen using [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A3|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] submachine guns, usually fitted with Surefire dedicated forend weaponlights. In the episode "Hostage", S.W.A.T. can be seen armed with fixed-stock [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5A2|Heckler & Koch MP5A2]]'s, also sporting Surefire dedicated forend weaponlights.<br />
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[[Image:HKmp5A3.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm with Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight and Navy trigger group]]<br />
[[Image:SWATMP5.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch MP5A2 9x19mm with Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight and Navy trigger group, used in ''[[S.W.A.T.]]'']]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-46832.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Charge of This Post"]]<br />
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== M4A1 Carbine ==<br />
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Some N.Y.P.D. ESU officers can be seen armed with [[M16 rifle series#M4/M4A1 Carbine|M4A1 carbines]] as well as the typical H&K MP5A3s. Det. Bonasera uses one with an M68 Aimpoint Scope and Surefire M900 Weaponlight foregrip in the episode "Snow Day", but never fires it.<br />
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[[Image:ColtM4A1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M4A1 5.56mm]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-320656.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-322162.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-350243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-352307.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
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== Colt Model 933 ==<br />
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In the episode "The 34th Floor", several N.Y.P.D. E.S.U. officers are seen carrying [[M16 rifle series#Colt Model 933|Colt Model 933]] rifles as their weapons of choice, seen with various attachments.<br />
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[[Image:ColtM4commando.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 933 - 5.56x45mm.]]<br />
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== Smith & Wesson Model 36 ==<br />
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In the episode "Raising Shane", a robber uses a [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]] to rob a bar and then fatally shoot the bartender, the whole time impersonating Dr. Sheldon Hawkes ([[Hill Harper]]). It is later discovered that this is a plot by Shane Casey ([[Edward Furloug]]) to force Detective Messer to exonerate his brother Ian Casey ([[Jeremy Nichols]]) of a similar crime. Shane himself uses the revolver to kill the robber and then brandishes it several times in confrontations with Mac and Messer, ultimately being talked into surrendering the weapon when Messer is able to prove that his brother was indeed guilty of his crime. In the episode "Cold Reveal", a grief-stricken relative of one of Clay Dobson ([[Joseph Lawrence]])'s victims pulls a Model 36 on Mac when it's believed Mac murdered Dobson while trying to arrest him, but Mac is able to disarm him without a shot being fired when the man is overcome by grief and collapses. Detective Messer can also be seen carrying one as a backup weapon in an ankle holster in some episodes.<br />
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[[Image:S&W 36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 .38 Special]]<br />
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== AKM ==<br />
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In the episode "Snow Day", drug dealers (later revealed to be ex-IRA terrorists) can be seen engaging N.Y.P.D. SWAT officers in a shootout armed with [[AK-47#AKM|AKM]] assault rifles, wounding one officer in the shoulder during the firefight. They can again be seen armed with them when they take Messer and Adam Ross ([[A.J. Buckley]]) hostage while they're working the cime scene, using them to beat Messer several times. AKMs are later seen in the episode "Pay Up", first in the hands of a sniper who fires at Mac, Messer, and Flack, but fails to hit them. Another AKM is seen pointed at Connor Dunbrook in a video to his father stating demands.<br />
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKM rifle 7.62x39mm]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-334232.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-335305.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-334564.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-349324.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
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== Sa vz 58 ==<br />
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Later in the episode, "Snow Day", in a move similar to a scene from ''[[The Dark Knight]]'', two of the hostages are then disguised as the terrorists and have folding stock [[Sa vz 58]] assault rifles taped to their hands, though Messer manages to get loose and comandeer one of the rifles, killing another terrorist with a burst from the AKMS.<br />
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[[Image:VZ58.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Sa vz 58V 7.62x39mm]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-348555.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-350807.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
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== Barrett M82A1 ==<br />
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Along with large amounts of cocaine, a [[Barrett M82|Barrett M82A1]] sniper rifle is also among the illegal weapons found in a warehouse use by terrorists in the episode "Snow Day", though thankfully was not used during the raid. The terrorists later attempt to steal it and the other weapons and drugs back when they raid the crime lab disguised as utility workers during a fake gas leak, using the powerful rifle to shoot open the vault containing their cocaine.<br />
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[[Image:M82a1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M82A1 Barrett .50 BMG]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-324450.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-325507.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-325791.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-326304.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-339492.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-339548.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-339642.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
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== Heckler & Koch MP5K ==<br />
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In the episode "Snow Day", terrorists can be seen armed with [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5K]]s during the initial SWAT raid and again when attempting to steal back their drugs and weapons from the crime lab, one of them accidentally shooting one of his own comrades with one while pursuing Mac. Dr. Sheldon Hawkes ([[Hill Harper]]) commandeers one from a terrorist and uses it for the remainder of the episode. Some of the MP5Ks seen in the episode (usually in non-firing scenes) are Tokyo Marui plastic airsoft replicas with the Navy-style lower receiver; the real MP5Ks in the episode (which fire blanks) are the ones that have the SEF lower receivers.<br />
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[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K with SEF lower receiver- 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:MP5KA3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5KN with Navy lower receiver - 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-330785.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-337827.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-338001.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-352178.jpg|thumb|none|600px|([[Hill Harper]]) From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-352467.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-353102.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
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== Beretta 92FS ==<br />
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In the episode "Snow Day", some of the terrorists are armed with [[Beretta 92FS]] pistols as their weapons of choice. Mac takes one off a dead terrorist for his own use (as he left his Glock at his desk.), later unloading the pistol and emptying the chamber after the leader is killed. A blank-firing [[Beretta 92FS]] appears in the episode "Fare Game", identified as the murder weapon.<br />
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[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm.]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-336768.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Terrorist chambers his [[Beretta 92FS]].]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-345999.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mac holding a captured [[Beretta 92FS]].]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-340154.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mac holds his Beretta on one of the terrorists.]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-353183.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mac holding his Beretta while waiting to ambush the terrorist leader.]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-354150.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mac empties the chamber after removing the magazine.]]<br />
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== Remington 870 ==<br />
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In the episode "Snow Day", Detective Flack can be seen armed with a [[Remington 870 Shotgun|Remington 870 shotgun]] fitted with a Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight and spare shotshell holder on the side of the reciever, using it to kill a terrorist during the opening warehouse raid and again at the end of the episode when arresting the other terrorists at the crime lab. He later is seen with one in the episode "Vacation Getaway". In the recent crossover episode, "Hammer Down", Dr. Ray Langston ([[Laurence Fishburne]]) uses a Remington 870 with the same setup in the climax of the episode, although this changes to a [[Mossberg 590]] in a continuity error. Interestingly, Langston's gun has no weaponlight mounted in the foregrip.<br />
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[[Image:Rem870w618Surefire.jpg |thumb|none|350px|Remington 870 with Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight 12 Gauge]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-320915.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-320962.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-321574.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-351919.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From "Snow Day"]]<br />
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==Mossberg 590==<br />
In a continuity error, Dr. Ray Langston's ([[Laurence Fishburne]]) [[Remington 870]] changes to a [[Mossberg 590]] in the climax of "Hammer Down".<br />
[[Image:Mossberg590.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mossberg 590 - 12 gauge]]<br />
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== Smith & Wesson Model 66 ==<br />
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In (Season 4, Episode 1) "Can You Hear Me Now", Morton Brite ([[Misha Collins]]) arms himself with a snub-nosed [[Smith & Wesson Model 66]] with a 2" barrel.<br />
[[Image:Smith-&-Wesson-686.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 66 .357 Magnum with 2" barrel]]<br />
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== Desert Eagle ==<br />
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In the Season 5 episode, "Pay Up", a [[Desert Eagle]] is used by a kidnapper named Simon Cade ([[Glenn Herman]]) to kill Det. Jessica Angell with, Cade is seen using it in the climax of the episode, dropping it after being wounde by Flack, and is then killed by Flack's Glock 19. Hawkes is seen holding one while he and Det. Monroe examine the .50AE round discovered at the crime scene. Another Desert Eagle is seen in the episode "Silent Night" being fired into a ballistics tank. In the Episode "Turbulence", Flack finds a Desert Eagle with Pearl Grips in a hotel room where an Air Marshall was murdered, the suspect using a stuffed animal to suppress the sound of the gunshot.<br />
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[[Image:DesertEagle50AE.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Desert Eagle Mark XIX - .50 AE Chrome Silver]]<br />
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== M240B Machine Gun ==<br />
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In one episode, a U.S. Coast Guard patrol boat armed with a bow-mounted [[FN MAG#M240 Machine Gun|M240B machine gun]] is seen among Coast Guard and N.Y.P.D. air units and surface vessels sent to intercept a terrorist diver attempting to blow up a helipad on the bank of the Hudson river where a foreign dignitary is arriving.<br />
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[[Image:M240-1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|M240B machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br />
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== Smith & Wesson Model 60 ==<br />
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In the episode "Commuted Sentences", a woman armed with a [[Smith & Wesson Model 60]] with a shaved hammer is killed when an attacker grabs her from behind, turning the gun on her and forcing her to be shot with her own weapon, though the round goes through both her and her attacker, ricocheting off a stone pillar of a museum before landing near a metal railing where it's later discovered by Detectives Messer and Monroe.<br />
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[[Image:Smith wesson 60.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 60 .357 Magnum]]<br />
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== Remington Model 700P ==<br />
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In the episode "Hostage", N.Y.P.D. SWAT snipers can be seen armed with [[Remington 700#Remington Model 700P|Remington Model 700P]] sniper rifles during the hostage crisis at the bank.<br />
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[[Image:RemingtonPSS700.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Remington Model 700P in .300 Win Mag]]<br />
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== TDI Vector ==<br />
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In the episode "Hostage", a [[TDI Vector]] is identified as the weapon used to kill the manager of the bank, the victim having two bullets through the same entry wound due to the weapon's unique recoil reduction system. The one shown also had a tactical light mounted in the weapon above the barrel.<br />
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[[Image:Krisssuperv.jpg|thumb|none|350px|TDI Vector .45 ACP]]<br />
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== Heckler & Koch G36C ==<br />
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During a video conference in the episode "Hostage", a [[Heckler & Koch G36#Heckler & Koch G36C|Heckler & Koch G36C]] can be seen on a wall behind Detective Bonasera, fitted with a silencer and RIS foregrip.<br />
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[[Image:G36CwForegrip.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Heckler & Koch G36C 5.56x45mm with RIS foregrip]]<br />
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== Luger P08 == <br />
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In the episode "Yahrezit" a Neo-Nazi has several [[Luger P08]] pistols. One with a bayonet on the barrel is used by an ex-Nazi named Klaus Braun ([[Ed Asner]]) to commit a murder, by stabbing the victim with the bayonet and later shoots the victim with it, but the round doesn't penetrate deeply due to the gunpowder having degraded over the years.<br />
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[[Image:LugerP08Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Luger P08 9x19mm]]<br />
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== Walther P38 ==<br />
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In addition to the aforementioned Lugers, the Neo-Nazi also posesses a [[Walther P38]].<br />
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[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther P38 9x19mm]]<br />
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== Walther PPK ==<br />
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In the beginning of the episode "You Only Die Once", Det. Flack is seen carrying a [[Walther PPK]], though in some shots, it becomes a [[Walther PP]].<br />
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[[Image:WaltherPPK.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Walther PPK - 9mm Kurz aka 9x17mm (.380 ACP)]]<br />
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== Walther PPK/S ==<br />
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At the end of the episode "The 34th Floor", Teddy Westwick ([[Brett Tucker]]), tries to pull a [[Walther PPK/S]], but is shot before he can use it.<br />
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[[Image:WaltherPPKS.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Walther PPK/S stainless - .380 ACP.]]<br />
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== Steyr SPP ==<br />
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In the final Season 5 episode "Pay Up", and the Season 6 episode "Epilogue", a gang of extortionists use a [[Steyr TMP#Steyr SPP|Steyr SPP]] with a TMP auto sear to shoot up several crowded areas, including a bar in which the CSI Team was in, killing only a bartender and wounding Det. Messer. It is even identified as a Steyr SPP by Det. Taylor, commenting on how it wasn't very accurate.<br />
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[[Image:SteyrSPPPistl.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Steyr SPP 9x19mm with 30-round TMP magazine]]<br />
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== Smith & Wesson 3913 "Ladysmith" ==<br />
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In the episodes "Cuckoo's Nest" and "Manhattanhenge", a serial killer named Hollis Eckhart ([[Skeet Ulrich]]) uses a [[Smith & Wesson 3913 "Ladysmith"]] as his weapon of choice, using it in "Cuckoo's Nest" to kill one of his victims that attempts to escape, and later uses it twice in "Manhattanhenge", using it to pistol whip a storeowner and later uses it in a standoff with Det. Taylor and Det. Flack, theatening to shoot himself with it, but drops it at the pleads of Det. Taylor and his own vision of his late wife, Calliope ([[Josie Davis]]).<br />
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[[Image:S&W Model 3913.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson 3913 LS "Ladysmith" 9x19mm.]]<br />
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== Mossberg 500 ==<br />
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In the episode "Cuckoo's Nest", in a flashback a deranged man is seen using a [[Mossberg 500]] with the stock sawn-off to kill his girlfriend, and then uses it to shoot up the other employees at the City Surveyor's Office, including the wife of serial killer Hollis Eckhardt ([[Skeet Ulrich]]), Calliope ([[Josie Davis]]) wounding Eckhardt in the face with it in the process.<br />
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[[Image:Sawed-off mossberg.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mossberg 500 with sawed-off barrel and stock - 12 Gauge]]<br />
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== Browning Hi-Power ==<br />
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A [[Browning Hi-Power]] appears in the episode "Uncertainty Rules", being used by a thug. It is later picked up by James Roberts ([[Joe Reegan]]) and he holds it on Rufus Knox ([[Dominic Keating]]).<br />
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[[Image:BrowningHiPowerStd.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Browning Hi-Power "Type 73" - 9x19mm. These Hi-Powers feature enlongated bushings different from Hi-Powers Made before 1973 and after the MK II Series.]]<br />
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== Colt Python ==<br />
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Rufus Knox uses a [[Colt Python]] in "Uncertainty Rules", firing it at Det. Taylor and James Roberts, but never scores a hit and runs out of ammo. Another is carried by a bank robber in the episode "Unusual Suspects", and is identified as a ".357" by Det. Bonasera.<br />
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[[Image:ColtPythonSS.jpg|thumb|400px|none|[[Colt Python]] Stainless Steel variant with 4" Barrel and Colt marked Rubber combat grips - .357 Magnum]]<br />
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== Smith & Wesson Model 34 ==<br />
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A [[Smith & Wesson Model 34]] appears in the episode "Pot of Gold", and is identified as the murder weapon.<br />
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[[Image:Model342.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Smith & Wesson Model 34 .22LR - Early Version, Left Side.]]<br />
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[[Category:Mystery]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=339664Talk:Main Page2010-10-09T22:09:11Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>==M*A*S*H*==<br />
Why is there no page for M*A*S*H? i love that show! i don't own any of it though, if somebody made it i would happily help edit! [[User:SargeOverkill]]<br />
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==IMFDB = Internet Movie Firearms Data Base, right?==<br />
That's an assumption from the obvious subject of this Wiki. Don't you think the full name should appear on the Main Page? I don't see it anywhere! Fine Wiki you've got going here. [[Special:Contributions/68.199.188.123|68.199.188.123]] 05:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:You are right! We should have the title INTERNET MOVIE FIREARMS DATA BASE somewhere boldly on the main page. I can EDIT the page, but it has a lot of wiki code on it and I don't want to mess anything up. Can someone else with access (and more wiki code experience) do this change? Can Bunni do this change? It seems pretty obvious and I can't believe we didn't catch it until now. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 15:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Oh, and another question==<br />
Just watched very interesting commercial. Directed by [[Sam Raimi]] it's actually spoofing [[Desperado]]. There are guns, including [[Remington 1866 Derringer]], one of my personal favoties, i can recognize it everywhere. There's also [[John Saxon]] here. Can i do a page about this commercial? Also, if more global, can commercials and music videos be here, as they also media, like video games and movies. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 15:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know about that. That's getting too much out of scope, I think. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::NO Commercials, NO Music Videos. There are tons of commercials that play only in Europe or Asia and we can't verify any of that info here. For one thing, you can't BUY or rent the DVDs of television commercials and (the vast majority of) Music videos to screencap them, or more importantly, confirm the veracity of said pages. Yes, chances are you can find a (usually low rez version) on the Internet, but really, do people wonder about the guns in either of those types of visual media? If we include ALL visual media, then we would be forced to accept news broadcasts, documentaries, industrial or training videos, etc. etc. and veer farther from the central theme of being the MOVIE firearms database. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:08, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::: You wrong actually - there are tons of DVD and festivals, that show commercials. And you can verify them via youtube Though, never mind. But can i do the thing on [[Sam Raimi]] page as a bonus like "Other Works" on IMDB? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 09:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::No YOU'RE WRONG, Kloga. You insist on adding things that are (a) unnecessary and (b) Stupid. I'm on the verge of banning just because you keep on pushing it and pushing when we say NO to your various ideas. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- Commercials? Music videos? Are you joking? Man, there are literally zillions of commercials that have been made in the world, and I'm sure a healthy percentage of them have gun usage. There have also been loads upon loads of music videos, with a much higher percentage of them having firearms in them. All of which would make for a rather ugly number of additional pages. You're talking about increasing this site in size and organization by at least two or three-fold, if not far more. Be realistic. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Request: High Heels & Low Lifes==<br />
While kinda chick-flick-ish, it's still a highly entertaining movie.. and has some really nice looking firearms. There is a scene where one of the main characters, Mason, is standing in the doorway of a darkened apartment, turns to face (three quarters) the camera and pulls out a gun. I have no idea what kind of firearm this is but it looks really awesome.. and if anyone can identify it would be much appreciated!<br />
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==Jacked pictures==<br />
The following are pictures taken from my website. The first one is edited, but it's still my picture. The first version still has my copyright notice on it, as does the second picture. [[Image:M1891.jpg]] and [[Image:M39.jpg]] Please remove all versions of both these pictures from the database. I'm not very familiar with wikis or I'd do it myself. --[[User:7.62x54r.net|7.62x54r.net]] 23:36, 28 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==English Scripts==<br />
To unregistered users. use English script when writing on these pages. Most of us are American and don't run asian word scripts on our computers. Thus Asian letters are unreadable to us and look like gibberish. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:57, 16 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Screencap Legality ==<br />
How do you know whether uploading screencaps violates copyright or not?<br />
: Pretty sure it is okay because no one has hunted us down to sue us, but anyway, as long as you don't claim it is your work and credit only yourself, you should be okay. -GM<br />
:: One thing I would advise you to do is not upload screenshots from pirated copies of movies that haven't been released yet on DVD and Blu Ray. I imagine that if someone working for one of the studios saw that, they would be very upset. They'll know the shots came from a bootleg if the movie isn't out on DVD yet, and they might just throw the book at us. Avoid this at all costs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Merging articles ==<br />
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Is it possible to merge an article with a pre-existing article? Every time I try to do this with particular types of guns, I get an error message that says, "A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name." For instance, if I wanted to move the HK91 article under the H&K G3 article (since the HK91 is a G3 variant, I don't think it needs its own page), I can't do this.<br />
::To merge an article, take the article, copy all the information and put it on the new page in the format you wish to make. You can also do this if you wish to change the name of a page. Take the page that you copied everything from and delete everything on that page. Write on that page this exactly(minus quotes):<br />
"#REDIRECT (then use double [ ] brackets) and write the name of the page EXACTLY AS IT IS. Screw up the name and it'll redirect no where.<br />
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# "#Redirect [[[[M16 rifle series]]]]"<br />
Note:How I made it look finished is what it should look like. Not what it looks like when in the editing of the page. Hope I helped. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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This is probably rhetorical, but is this the same method of redirecting to a page, i.e. [[QBZ-95]] redirecting to [[Norinco QB rifle series]]? I noticed that a page for the QBZ-95 was deleted because there already was one (Norinco QB rifle series), but whenever you type in QBZ-95, there are absolutely no results for it, and that could be confusing for your everyday user..[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 22:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Let there be backups! ==<br />
Ok, I've installed ruby on our dedicated server, signed up for Amazon's s3 storage service, and customized a ruby backup script to automatically backup the database and all image files at 4am pst and upload them to our s3 folder. The process really bogs down the box for a good 10 minutes, so I'm thinking once every 24 hours is fine, but I may go to once every 12 hours eventually... Thanks for putting up with the ups and downs during this time of transition.<br />
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Best,<br />
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Welcome to our new server! This is the first of many steps I am taking to ensure we never lose data again. The site used to be hosted on shared hosting overseas - we now have a dedicated server housed in a co-location in San Jose, CA. Dedicated servers don't come cheap, but your time, effort, and contributions are now my number one priority. <br />
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I'm still transferring the images that have been uploaded over the last couple days, don't worry they're not lost!<br />
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==The McUzi==<br />
It wasn’t until I read the ‘Raw Deal’ article on the “fake Uzi” that I realized Hollywood was dressing MAC-10s up as Uzis.<br />
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In ‘The Dog of War’ the mercenaries are supposed to be using Uzis. However some are using MAC-10s and some are using MACs dressed up as Uzis. The actors seem to change weapons randomly. For example, as the climactic battle begins Tom Berenger is using a real Uzi and Christopher Walken is using a silenced Uzi. However in the final minutes both are using McUzis. This is made painfully clear as Walken holds the gun to his face when reloading.<br />
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There are real MAC Uzi hybrids. These are civilian versions of the Uzi with a .45 barrel, bolt and a MAC-10 magazine well to accept the universal Grease Gun magazines.<br />
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The Hollywood guns are merely MACs with Uzi parts added on. <br />
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I would see to real reason to make a gun like this accept that the filmmakers wanted to use Uzis but ran out. Much like ‘Planet of the Apes’ when the studio ran out of ape costumes they simply used paper mask. If you look closely at the audience of Heston’s mock trial.<br />
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== moved from main page ==<br />
We're on the new server and still working the bugs out - email me at cserrano@gmail.com if you're having any issues editing or logging in. The backup file is from early September 30, so most of yesterdays edits are missing - sorry GunMaster45 I'm working on it! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 17:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC) ''GunMaster45 I've recovered the latest version of the [[Street Kings]] page - anything else we're missing?'' [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 21:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
: I had the R9 pistol which I had uploaed today but I redid it. Will the pictures remain fuzzy and pixelated or is that just temporary? (Hopefully) -GM<br />
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If you find something missing from the old server you can still access it here 66.79.167.132/~imfdb/index.php?title=Main_Page [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 20:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I had just uploaded some pics of the AR18 from Terminator and the Street Sweeper from Total Recall. Can you get them back, or should I upload them again? Also, MPM2008 uploaded some new gun pics, and I don't think he'll appreciate their loss.<br />
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== How do i "screencap" a movie? ==<br />
How do i screencap a movie?:<br />[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 12:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Ah, OK then. We all have our own methods of doing so. Personally, I play my DVDs using VLC Media Player, which has a Snapshot feature which lets you take screenshots when paused, and then it saves them automatically as JPEGs or PNGs to a designated folder of your choosing. However, that's ONLY when I'm screencapping movies I own on DVD. I also rent and download movies using iTunes which I might screencap for IMFDB pages, and I can't play those with VLC. In those cases, I just hit the "Print Screen" key, paste the image into MSPaint, and then crop away the iTunes browser so that only the movie image remains. Then I save them to my HD in a designated folder. Once I've acquired enough screenshots for a movie, I use "Upload file" to put them on IMFDB so that I can use them for pages I edit. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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::First and most importantly, you need a DVD drive in your computer to watch the movie. I watch mine on Windows WinDVD system, which has a built in "screencap" button by pressing P, which saves them all in WinDVD file. I take those files from the folder, which are all saved under BMPs and re-save them as JPGs using Corel Paintshop. If they are widescreen, I use crop to cut them out. I then upload them to the site and post them. Now that I've read MT2008's method for iTunes, I can screencap [[Shoot 'Em Up]] which wasn't compatable with my WinDVD system, but worked on my other DVD player which had no screencap button. Hooray! -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]<br />
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And also you can use the program I use which is CyberLink PowerDVD which also has a built in Screenshot button. First the screenshots start out as BMPs, but then I use Irfan View to save them as JPGs to a different folder. And if they are widescreen, I use Windows Photo Gallery to crop off the black bars. You should also check out Gunmaster's and MT2008's methods because they might be better.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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What about taking pictures on a digital camera and uploading them to your PC? Does anyone know if it works?[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 21:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Thats a very myspace101 question but it's simple there's about 4 ways to do it but I've only done 2. (This demonstration is only done on Windows XP)<br />
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:::Option 1: If your camera has a memory slot like a (Compact Flash, Secure Digital, Mini SD, Micro SD, Memory Stick Pro, MultiMediaCard (MMC), SmartMedia, xD-Picture Card (xD), etc.) you could remove the card from the camera. Step 1: Once you removed the card from the camera if you have a compatible USB card reader you can plug the card reader into the computer and plug the card into the card reader. The most common great quality card reader brands are (Sandisk, Memorex, PNY, and Lexar) for approximately $20.00 at Wal-Mart. <br />
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:::Option 2: If your camera has a connection for a USB cable. Step 1: You can easily find and plug the USB adaptor into the camera and plug the other end of the plug into you computer. <br />
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:::The upload process is easy (tested on Windows XP) your computer bottom right task tray will show a "Found New Hardware" icon and be gone that means your camera is connected. Step 2: A pop up will show on how you want to view your images click on "view with Windows" if this pop up does not pop up you will have to manually follow step 3 if not skip on to step 4. Step 3: You may click "My Computer" or "My Documents" most likely on the desktop or start menu on your computer you will go to "My Computer" and find a folder that says a brand of your memory card or camera. Step: 4 Click on the folder and look through all folders and once you find it you may highlight the folder or the selected images on your computer mouse right click and press copy (or press Ctrl+C on your keyboard) and paste the images where ever you want in your computer.<br />
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== How do i screencap from a television? ==<br />
Like if i wanted to screencap some video games?<br /><br />
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:You probably need some high tech gizmo. Usually people who screencap TV use DVR and record TV on DVD, then upload them on the computer. I've never done it but it may work for VGs. -GM45<br />
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::Personally, I'd recommend maybe trying an emulator to play said game on your computer (assuming your PC is fast enough to handle the software and game). I've been thinking of redoing the ''[[Goldeneye 007]]'' page for a while using Project64 (which has a screencap feature), because I can play that game at high resolution even on my laptop.<br />
:::I recommend softwares like Fraps (only for PC games). It can take images with a click of a button and you can choose what to save it as in the Pictures section. The disadvantage is that you can't record gameplay in computer games and you must pay about $99 (not sure, but around there and you can also pay little by little per month or week to use) it to do unlimited video capturing. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Call of Duty 4 pictures==<br />
I've got good pictures of guns for Call of Duty 4, but i don't know how to upload them, anyone knows how to email me at r1c0ch37@gmail.com<br />
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:All you have to do is go to "Upload file" under the "Toolbox" section in the left-hand column. -MT2008<br />
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==Protection Log?==<br />
Is something wrong with the site. Why are all the pics being fixed with "([edit=sysop:move=sysop])" for a protection log? I know little about that technical stuff, is someone removing the pics or are they just being protected from over-uploading crappy pics over? -GM<br />
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:They're being protected. Some asshole came in earlier today and kept trying to replace MoviePropMaster's pics with stock 'Net images, and kept doing it even after he was asked to stop. MPM's pics are our pride 'n joy...Alienqueen and I agreed not to let them get screwed with anymore. -MT2008<br />
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Yeah, that's reason why I did it. I just wish I had my ability to block users back, and then I wouldn't have had to set up protections. I told that guy not to upload over MPM2008's images and multiple times and he didn't listen.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Flannigan==<br />
on the Snatch page- I know it already says that the .50 is a 357, but also another way of finding out is that .50s fire 7 rounds where as in the film Bullet tooth tony fires 8 in every mag. so it must be a 357.<br />
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Retrieved from "http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Snatch"<br />
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==Deleting old files==<br />
As y'all can probably tell, I have been on a huge deleting spree recently. I've been getting rid of files that weren't being used for whatever reason or another. Some of them were gun images that have since been replaced by MoviePropMaster's images, others were old screencaps that have been replaced by newer ones (like all of my old ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' shots, which have since been replaced by GunMaster's), and some were those images of weird experimental guns uploaded by Cutaway that don't appear in any movie and thus have no purpose on this site.<br />
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I realize, of course, that this by itself won't relieve the strain on the servers; it's inevitable as this site grows. But it seems like a worthwhile thing to do. If anyone of the Admins are interested in helping out, please go to "Special Pages" and click on "Unused Files" (at the top). If you see something that might be worth keeping (i.e. Choi's screencaps from ''[[The Killer]]'' which haven't been put on the page yet), leave it alone, but if you see gun images that obviously have no use or screencaps that you know have been replaced...ditch 'em.<br />
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Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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Good Work, MT2008. I'm sure it'll give us more server space, I'll be sure to delete some myself. One question, if we get rid of the old files, will this site load faster?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Beats me, but I'd have to guess...not ''noticeably'' faster. It will at least give us more space for uploading newer files. However, IMFDB is constantly growing, so it's inevitable we'll reach our limits eventually. You'd have to ask Bunni when that will be. Anyway, I'm off to the pub now. I will be back later to continue. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:20, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Go right ahead, you deserve a break. I'll get rid of as many as I can, I'm also seeing alot of screenshots nobody bothered to use, it makes me wonder why people upload them if they're just going to sit there for a year and gather dust. And, I'm also going to screencap [[Four Brothers]] and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]] soon, so you can look forward to seeing them completed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Fictional Firearms==<br />
I propose that we denote pages for 'fictional' firearms with parentheses "like Non Guns" so that they are in a different grouping than real guns. GM has made pages for the fantasy weapons of Hellboy II and that made me think about custom pages for the Morita Rifle (Starship troopers) or the M590 (Space:Above and Beyond) or the Blade Runner Pistol or any of the Star Wars guns (versus other types of Sci fi weapons, these should be guns). Even though THESE fictional guns are based on real guns, they can have their own pages with links to the original weapons page. Regardless, I think that guns that aren't real should be separated, lest they confuse users. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.<br />
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:I agree. I was kinda turned off when I saw the Aliens Resurrection page. None of those guns were based off of real firearms or even guns dressed up to look like futuristic guns.<br />
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::Well I get the point of making a post about fictional guns that were built around real guns like the Morita rifle and the Pulse Rifle of Aliens, but guns that were built from scratch like the Samaritian. Would it really need a page here or is that just for the fanboys who like the gun? It's like a page for the cars used in the Punisher movie or people who like to include knives, swords, and even bows & arrow in pages, including me. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:::The advantage is that the page can inform an interested user that the prop was NOT based on any real firearm, information that is just as important as informing 'what real firearm' was used in a prop weapon. What I don't like are obvious NON crafted weapons .... like [[Molotov cocktails]] ... wtf? That's an improvised weapon, like a sharp stick or a brick.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::What about bows & arrows, or crossbows? I put them in my pages cause when they are used, they an impression and deserve a mention evne though they aren't firearms. Also what about knives and swords? I've seen some of those as well, but I think the knife of Rambo should stay because...well, it's the knife of Rambo. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== My gripe on Empty pages ==<br />
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I've been seeing a lot of new pages lately. The problem is that they are a blank! Nothing, not even a list of guns. What the fuck? I mean, a list of guns with no photos is ok, but just a fucking blank page? Do the people that do that expect someone else to do the work for them? They mind as well type down, "someone list the guns and put up pics for me cause I am lazy as fuck to even give a list." At least writing that down says something. Not just a blank.<br />
:We all understand your pain Exy, we need a more efficient way to let the anonymous users know that if you make a page, you got to do the work. You gotta watch the language though, people will see it and think it is okay to do often. We all do it, but we don't want it done for no reason. Just ignore the empty pages, let them do the work eventually. If they don't, delete the pages. Half of them are movies I've never heard of anyway. Keep an eye out for [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]], I'll have them done this week. -GM<br />
::What about that new member who create thirty or so new movie pages (some of which barely had one gun in them) and then never filled out any of those pages? I'm tempted to give people a little time, but for movies in which I question their relevance to this site, I'm also tempted to get rid of blank pages and let people create them when they're ready to populate them with information. MPM<br />
:::Sorry for the foul launguage. I'm used to talking on forums where the F word is acceptable when you are pissed. Swears is culturally part of any language and sometimes it slips and I like to think we're all adults here that do use swears in real life when it is required. Anyway. Nice job on the [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]] pages. I've only done one movie that had ONE gun in it and it was [[The Forbidden Kingdom]] and even I did the work for it. I guess the anonymous users might also just be curious guys online and just hope we know what movie they are talking about, have it, and would take the time to tell them what guns are in it by doing the pages, but maybe on the main page, someone should put down rules of how to operate this site. I mean, I wanted to put a new qoute into the qoute section, but can't cause I don't know how to do it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=="jacked" summaries"==<br />
One thing that irks me is people 'cut and pasting' a plot summary completely from IMDB. This is not only against IMFDB rules, but if any mods from IMDB sees them, they can make an stink about it. I'm tempted to 'erase' any pirated summaries and put a note to the original writer ''"'''Write your own summary in your own words'''. It isn't too hard, even to re-arrange the sentences and replace some words to make it LOOK like you wrote it yourself. Just don't lift them word for word from another well known source. IMDB itself has a rule that you must write your own summaries and not lift them from other 3rd party sources. So does IMFDB.org. "'' Of course there are so many jacked firearm images here, this may be hypocritical. Which is why I'm working so hard to get IMFDB their own exclusive gun images. But it's one thing to upload an image of an impossible to get gun which no one has, versus taking the time to type a few sentences...<br />
:I agree. I did the same thing with my [[Black Lagoon]] page when I got here, but I took it off mainly because I didn't see the need for a summary at the beginning of the page that is THAT long winded. People are here for the guns and if they want to know what the movie or show is about, they just look it up. I don't know, I stopped writing summaries for movies and shows long ago. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I think we don´t need summaries.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I disagree with those who think "we don't need no stinkin' summaries..." For those people who have NOT seen the movie a SHORT summaries are okay. I've put them on some of my pages, usually when I have something interesting to add. I do like them when someone puts a page for a movie so obscure that I have no idea what it's about (and I don't want to have to go hunting around the web to find out, capice?) I added summaries (and others did) for those REALLY OBSCURE East german B&W movies that are on the site. Who created those pages anyway? Like anyone's going to see Black and white German language communist era DDR movies .... oh well. I can always start creating pages for the cinema of 1930s Lithuania! hahahaha. But having no summary for SOME of the pages sucks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I found some summaries to stick out too much. Maybe a sentence or two to just give the jist, or a catch phrase like, but really I don't do summaries anymore. But I'll think about it for the anime ones simply cause some of them are harder to find or most people wouldn't have interests in them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Leaving your sign==<br />
If you want people to know who you are when you write things on pages and discussion boards, put four ~ symbols after your message. Your user name and time/date are automatically shown. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 20:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:See?<br />
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:: What he said. ;)<br />
::: I agree wholeheartedly ...<br />
::::Yes. Just yes. --Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Problems with formatting==<br />
Anyone notice that some of the wikipages don't show the spaces that we put between sections (so that the formats don't get all jacked up when we have photos on the right). <br />
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http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Benelli_M_Series_Super_90_Shotguns<br />
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I've been trying to fix the benelli shotgun page for a bit now, and every time I add spaces, it doesn't show up in the page. Is this a glitch?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Should we have templates? ==<br />
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Like in Wikipedia?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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It WOULD make this site a bit more...colorful than the standard white background, but if it's too much work, then it's up to whoever really runs this place.<br />
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:In all honesty, what this site needs most of all is cross-referencing of some kind, so that if somebody enters the name of a gun in one page, it shows up on another. It's a downfall of Wikis in general, and this one in particular. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Views==<br />
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Is there a way how I could check how many people viewed may page like on the home page the top 5 articles says how many people have viewed are page. <br />
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 01:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== How do i replace a image? ==<br />
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How do i replace a image?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Updating ==<br />
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Can someone please update or add pictures to these listed pages: <br />
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*3000 miles to Graceland<br />
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*Blue streak<br />
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*The Mask<br />
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*Snatch<br />
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:The Mask and Snatch are on my to-do list. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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== music videos ==<br />
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should be included on the site...i want to know the guns used in protest the hero's video for blindfolds aside...if anyone knows, please share, or at least where i can find out<br />
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== main page movies ==<br />
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What exactly is the criteria for a film to be featured on the main page? I was thinking of submitting some (unless there are already enough as it is). - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]<br />
:Popular, critically aclaimed (but gun heavy I guess, something that wins 9 oscars but has three guns isn't a good idea), and it should have a decent amount of guns on it (like 15-20 seems about right).<br />
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== Too many screencaps!!! ==<br />
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I'm getting a bit frustrated w/the amount of screencaps we're loading up. Is there any way we can limit the number? The pages are becoming much too long & scrolling takes forever. I know Wikis are not democracies so a vote would be out of the question but can we all please stop indulging our screecap skills by putting ALL our favorite stills from these films up & just have about 2-3 images per firearm? [[User:Tommyt|Tommyt]] 20:14, 18 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:At least for the front page I have to agree - the loading is taking way too long. I'm going to disable the featured page for a while and see how it goes. I can't afford to upgrade the server at the moment to handle the huge load. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Can this be done on individual pages too? Take a look at the page for Shoot 'em Up for instance, seems like everyone just had to throw their favorite frame in there. Also, the Quick & the Dead is pretty bad too... Also, would it be bad in etiquette to go into pages & start cutting out images that are repetitive or unnecessary? [[User:Tommyt|Tommyt]] 18:47, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::Excuse the language but FUCK YOU. And if you start removing my screencaps I'll be sure to remove ''you'' from the site. (sorry about the outburst but it is very rude to blatantly bash my hard work and contributions to this site, and it pisses me off gravely) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
::::No one was bashing the hard work or contributions. Don't confuse legitimate criticism with a personal attack, and your response back was a personal attack and beneath you, especially the fine responses you usually write (and the fact that you're a MOD now). I hope you eventually understand that I also mean no disrespect as well. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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GM's comment aside I'm all for detailed screencaps. Heck I'm going to be trying to collect a bunch for myself. Unfortunantly the interesting films I have are VHS. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:He's got a point though. I dont want to be rude, but when every single time the certain gun is shown, it doesnt really need a picture. 5 tops is ok. GM, you are very nortorious for 13-14 pictures of the same gun. i can understand showing cycling misfeeds/changes in guns, but on the Punisher page, you dont really need that many pictures of Castle shooting Spoon and Dante. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
::You shouldn't have to apologize. The members who seem to LOVE tons of screencaps take it personally, like you're attacking THEM, not the decision to display endless screenshots of guns. I think when they think about it, they may realize that no one is trying to be insulting. When I screencap, I edit the pictures. Sure I might have 14 shots, but I choose the best couple and cull the rest. I don't feel compelled to force everyone to look at every since solitary screenshot, just because I took the time to do them. Just like a writer or artist, you must have the maturity to cut out what is excess, even though at the time it sucks to cut out stuff you like. Looks like some of the new (i.e. young also) members are trying to outdo the record for ridiculous screencaps. [[We Were Soldiers]] is now a page that I no longer like to look at, now that I have to scroll down for ten minutes to see the next section. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== how do i screencap == <br />
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i have many films, games exc that i want to screencap. please can someone tell me how to?<br />
:You need a DVD-rom drive on your computer. Play the movie on a DVD player with a screencapture function. The images will be saved to a folder. Cut off any widescreen or full screen bars and convert the image to a JPG so it can be placed here. You'll need a photo editor such as Corel Photoshop or even Paintshop. Then go to the Upload file section and upload them on the site. Copy the picture's linkage (will say something like "Image:name.jpg") then put the image in double brackets [[]] and paste the linkage. now you'd take this image and write it like this:<br />
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Look at some other pages to see this in use. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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You can actually screencap with any Windows computer, very easily. Just use the Print Screen button and paste it into whatever program you want; you can then crop out the interface and whatnot. You can also use Print Screen + Alt so that you only get what's inside the window instead of everything (I think PrtScn + Alt is what you want. <br />
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==Should this picture be on the M16 Page?==<br />
hahahaha. The CHAMPION of customization in the history of firearms! ..... <br />
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[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Oh hell yea! that looks awesome! [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
::Looks like that GIF took a lot of work to make... Awesome though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
:::That would be perfect for the M16 page, so definitely yes!--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Well where on the page should this be on? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Interesting enough I don't see this thing transform into an M16A1 or A2<br />
::M16A1 is dead and gone. the a2 series is the new and improved. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
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Slow it down a touch and it's perfect! And to satisfy those who are sticklers about accuracy: split the animation into "A1" and "A2" animations (one for each M16 variant). <br />
EDIT: Isn't there a silencer for it? Counter-Strike says so...<br />
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How awesome is that AR-15 builder, just love doing it for the hell of it.<br />
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== Grammar/Spelling == <br />
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- Hello gentlemen. First off I just want to start of by telling you guys how much I enjoy this site. Anyhow, I come visiting from IMCDb (Internet Movie Car Database). I'm an administrator over there and given my interest in weapons and the similarity between the two sites, I've taken an interest in visiting your site. However, I've noticed a problem that I wanted to bring up to your guys' attention. Often times there are grammar and spelling mistakes and I think that it is something that you guys can improve upon a bit more. I don't mean to sound like I'm criticizing or I'm calling anybody stupid or anything, but it's things like that that could make the site look cleaner and more appealing. And yes, I do understand that english may not be the first language for some of the posters here. My point is that I'm just giving some friendly advice from who I'd like to think of as someone from a "sister" site. Thanks gents...keep up the great work.<br />
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:: We have tons of contributors who aren't even old enough to shave yet. Does that tell you anything? GM45 once described it as a small group of Mods/ Super users fighting against the cresting tide of the ocean, or something to that effect. :) An apt metaphor. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::Hi, I am a fan of IMCDB myself (it was where I learned all about how M1 Abrams tanks in Hollywood are mocked-up Centurions). I do appreciate your concerns about grammar/spelling and agree with you that it needs to be addressed. However, being that (unlike IMCDB) we are a Wiki open for all to edit, it's somewhat inevitable that this will be an issue. I appreciate the fact that this is less of an issue with IMCDB due to the format of the site, and at times, I wish we could integrate elements of IMCDB into this site to standardize things a bit (I still get annoyed when I see people who call a Beretta 92F a "Berretta M92F" even though it says at the top of the page that this is not the correct spelling). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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::::Fellas, I greatly appreciate the response. I understand the situation with your site and we ourselves deal with some of the same issues, as far as having younger members whose grammar and knowledge isn't exactly ideal. But thanks a lot for the response. And as I said earlier, keep up the good work.<br />
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:::::Thanks. We also have foreign contributors who don't have that great of a grasp of English. We also have guys who just don't know how to spell. One of my buddies who is a combat vet, former 82nd Airborne, types like a two year old on his computer. I jokingly say that I have to create a special filter for Babelfish to decypher what he is typing! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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===Our own movie===<br />
I was thinkin'. We've got a lot of people on this site, a lot of them are very talented, we could probably make our own movie someday. I know a good script writer with an idea already mostly-formed, maybe imfdb should have a meet up and make a movie. We could probably all pool our resources and make an awesome one. Just a whimsical fantasy...-protoAuthor<br />
:A movie based on a website? What the fuck? That won't work. I am sorry but, that just won't work.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::No, I mean we all pitch together and make an action movie. Not based on the website, but the website has the people and resources. As in, a community effort. -protoAuthor<br />
:::That would be cool if only the movie we make is a cheesy action movie in the same vein as Commando, then we can do it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::hahahahaha, uh no. :) Some of us actually work in the movie industry and it's not easy to make a movie, even a crappy backyard effort one with a video camera bought from Walmart. You're right, it's a whimsical fantasy, but you need a TON of talented people who know what they are doing in ALL of the positions of a film production. Not just armorers but you need everyone, a good script, good actors, a good director, a good producer (which amazingly is really hard since the producer is supposed to be a manager, NOT someone who micro manages the work by everyone else), a good crew, skilled camera operators, good cameras, pro lighting gear and a good DP or cinematographer. Oh did I mention TONS of $$ (you could spend a fortune just feeding the crew and paying for insurance and permits - salaries not withstanding). Wait, you also need office staff, pre production staff and post production staff and facilities (digital capture, color correcting, editing, sound engineering and editing) and then where are you going to sell it? You need marketing, posters, ads, trailers, a website, the list goes on and on. No I'm not making fun of your comment. It was funny and just that, fantasizing, but I know you are just throwing this bit out there and are not serious. Because it's akin to someone saying "hey let's stage our own high orbit launch of a satellite, all we need is ....." :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm currently working on an amatuer backyard crap job now, and it is actually turning out quite well. We don't have tons of money but we can fund things like fake blood, spare t-shirts (to cover in fake blood), and blanks. As for lighting, so far everything has been working well for us. We actually have enough filmed now that I'm confident this will be a good movie. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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== Help with VLC ==<br />
I need help with my VLC Media Program. When i screencap movies the program screencaps like normal, but when i upload my images to IMFDB the images stay like this:<br />
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-252103Mk2.jpg|thumb|none|512px|Charlie Sheen in [[Platoon]]. <s>The Problem here is that even when the screencap is in 1200x configuration, the screencap is still away too small.</s> Fixed!]]<br />
:Can Anyone help me with this?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't have that problem, but I'm checking out the settings to see what might cause it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::I imagine you've got this sorted by now, but it's because you missed the letter "p." It's "px" as in "pixel," not "x" as in "times." And that still won't make it larger than the image itself is. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 11:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Discussions on Articles==<br />
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I love this site, I have wasted many hours just browsing the wonderful collection of articles. My only qualm is some users feel that the article pages are also discussion pages to argue the validity of someone's addition. There is nothing that irks me more that when i am reading about a movie and then it becomes some kind of forum. I think this should be regulated to make the site more professional.<br />
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:We try to regulate it and throw those discussions on the discussion pages of articles but there are still some users that discuss on the articles.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:14, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::I agree, that has been a thorn in my side too. Nothing worse than to go to the trouble of creating a thorough, tidy-looking article only for people to clutter it up with chatter and arguements that should be saved for the article's talk page. that 'discussion' tab is up there for a reason, people! [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::I couldn't agree more, it turns me off when I'm going through a neat looking page, and then come across a bunch of comments and arguments. If we could just get into the habit of using the talk page for these arguments, then we'll be more obligated to use them more often.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== This video ==<br />
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Have any of you lazy sons-of-bitches seen this video:<br />
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It's fucking awesome let me tell you. And no, i'm not spamming links just watch the video. It's about us!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:That's been out for a while now; take a look at some of those old gun pics on there, like the long since replaced M16A1/M203 with the 20-round mag. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I know but i never seen it. It's really funny.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::Unfortunately some our members are a bit too thin skinned. This guy wasn't being insulting. He was intentionally obnoxious trying to be a 'showman'. Some guys "telling him to fuck off" in the comments makes us look a bit immature. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== How? ==<br />
how do i create my own page to say what my favourite weapons and movies are and what contributions i have made? please can someone tell me.<br />
:You have to register first and, contribute to this site. Bye!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
i'd hate to sound like an idiot but i've just done that (register and contribute) now what do i do?<br />
:On the upper right corner of your screen there is an panel with thing about your username. Press the one with your name on it and write on it. Also, when editing, there will be an link with "Editing Help". Click it and read it. Now you know how to edit. Yay! Also, put four ~ after any of your messages. That way, you will sign you messages and people will know who you are.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Movie Article Request "Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow" ==<br />
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There are many guns, but I request this mostly for a big mistake in it. When Sky Captain is running on a log with a Colt 1911 (silver) in hand and drops it, the computer rendering shows a revolver of some sort. It is probably the same as the one in the scene where Sky Captain is at his desk and the reporter comes in, and he stops her at gunpoint.<br />
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Sorry if I was vague, but my memory's a little fuzzy.<br />
--Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:46, 3 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:I actually own that film and I ''could'' screencap it ,but I effing hate that movie. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:34, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it really that bad? It looked like it sucked, but I wasn't sure-[[User:S&amp;Wshooter|S&amp;Wshooter]] 21:49, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::It's just really corny. It tries to capture the feel of movies made in the 20's or whenever the hell the movie's suppose to take place, but it is just super, super, super, corny. If it was intentionally corny, it would be funny. But it's not and that's what makes it bad. The only redeeming part is that Angelina Jolie is in it. Unfortunately, she's always in a uniform and has a patch over one eye, so it's not really worth it in the end. The dues ex Machina near the end doesn't help, or the fact that the female lead is the type of person that would push a button for no other reason then it says "DO NOT PUSH". --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 21:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== How do I ==<br />
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get pictures on a page? not screencaps but an actor holding a gun in a movie?<br />
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== Fixed Width 1000px ==<br />
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I'm working on making the front page a fixed width design... let me play with the ads and featured articles for a couple days. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 22:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Created a new template for featured articles, you can play with it at [[Template:FeaturedArticle]]. I've currently only added 3:10 to Yuma and Live Free or Die Hard - feel free to add more. [[User:Bunni|bunni]]<br />
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==Random screencap==<br />
Is there any chance of bringing this feature back? I liked looking at the different screenshots. [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 11 Oct 2009<br />
::Do you prefer having the site crash more often than not, for this little inconvenience?<br />
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==Still having problems with the SITE==<br />
I am getting 503 error messages all the time. 80% of the time I can't get it. Until this is fixed, I am taking a break because I waste HOURS trying to rewrite edits and multiple attempts to upload images. Don't know what we can do about it. Is there something we can do, like have a one week moratorium on any members uploading anything to see if all the hits from views is what is causing it? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I emailed Bunni about this a few days ago, so I hope he'll get it fixed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Forum problems - can't log in==<br />
Which is why I am posting this here. I can't get into the Forum. When I type in (CORRECTLY) my user name and password, I get this error message that I have ''used up ALL Of my five (5!) login attempts'' (WTF?). Just '''today''' when I tried to login in, the error message said '''''"You've used up six (6!) of your five (5) login attempts.''''' You cannot try again for another fifteen minutes. Again WTF? I tried ONCE and it didn't take and the system thought I had tried many times. Again, something is wrong with the servers. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, I'm getting that error also. My guess is that it is because someone is trying to hack our forum accounts; so that is probably why it says we have used up our login attempts. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== I need help with a Link problem ==<br />
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I started a State of Grace page, which shows up when entered in the search box, but when I went to add the info from the movie to the actors pages the link back to State of Grace is said to be deleted. Like when I went to the Sean Penn page and entered what pistol he used and entered State of Grace, when I click on State of Grace it brings to a page that says: <br />
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'''Warning: You are recreating a page that was previously deleted.''' <br />
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You should consider whether it is appropriate to continue editing this page. The deletion log for this page is provided here for convenience: <br />
• 18:32, 15 April 2009 Gunmaster45 (Talk | contribs) deleted ''"State of Grace" (content before blanking was: 'This excellent movie starred Sean Penn, Ed Harris, and Gary Oldman. Penn, an undercover cop infiltrating the Irish mob in NYC carried a Smith 6906 in .9mm with a Ruger SP101 backup gun. Gary Oldman, a thug, carried ...')'' <br />
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Does this mean I need to copy and paste all the work I did into that deleted page? Searching for the movie from the search box will bring you to the page I created from scratch, but the link from the actors pages brings you to that notice of an old deleted page. Can anyone help? --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 03:31, 16 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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There was a small difference in titles between the link and the page you created. The link was State of Grace and the title of your page was State Of Grace, so that's why it didn't link. I made a redirect on the previously deleted page so it should work now.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Movies Page ==<br />
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I don't know if anyone has noticed but in the movies page King Kong (1933) is listed under B and there's no entry for it under K. Reason I'm saying this is because I guess only admins can edit category pages? because nothing pops up when I click edit.-[[User:Shooter2|Shooter2]]<br />
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::I fixed it. Someone put B&W in the same Category line as "movie". YOu put the categories in separate lines. WHen you put B&W in the same line, it thinks that you want the movie categorized in the "B" category [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:26, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Movies deletion ==<br />
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Could you please delete [[The Alamo (2004)]] since there is already is the title under ''[[Alamo (2004), The]]''? Thanks--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:48, 30 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
== Redirects ==<br />
Can someone please teach me how to create redirects?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Non Related Quotes==<br />
How does the quote "Come quietly or there will be...trouble. --[[RoboCop]]" relate to firearms? Should this quote be removed from the featured quote list or not?<br />
:I thought that as well, so I deleted it --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:42, 13 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Can't get into the FORUM .... AGAIN!!!!!!!==<br />
If anyone is interested as to why I have NOT deleted spammers, I CAN"T GET INTO THE FORUM!!!!! every time I try to log in, it boots me out! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:28, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Sucks for you, dude. Lets just hope that whatever is causing the problem is fixed<br />
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== Do a page on Pavement ==<br />
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Can someone please do a page on a movie called Pavement that stars Robert Patrick and Lauren Holly filmed in 2002. I was interested the weapons SWAT used and was pretty sure at one point even though she hadn't fired her weapon while clearing a house the top slide of her sidearm was locked back. I'd do it myself but I don't know where to find this movie as I saw it on TV one night and haven't done it before so wouldn't know how to make a page. Cheers<br />
:Pavement was filmed in South Africa, even though the story is set in San Francisco. Funny how San Francisco, suddenly looks like the scenes from District 9? Lauren Holly used a Vektor CP1 pistol, and yes, she pops out and her slide is open, but it looks like she fired and the editor removed the sequence of her firing, wanting instead for the crazy dude to force her to withdraw by firing his shotgun first. It was an editorial decision that screwed up what was already filmed. The SWAT team used South African R4s, Vektor CR21s, some dummy SIG 550s and one M16A1(probably a replica). The weapons are what one expects from a South African production. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Actor's Pages ==<br />
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I see that a lot of the actor pages are being converted to the "table" format, but I don't know if it's clear what should be in the first category. Should the guns be placed first before what movie the actor used them in? I would prefer it this way, because it's easier to read that way. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::You're right in pointing this out. I see NEW MEMBERS are changing the order in the tables on the ACTOR pages. Traditionally it's been WEAPON, then CHARACTER, then MOVIE TITLE, then notes. That format was chosen because it flows like a 'sentence'. I.e. John Doe has used the following ...... a [[Beretta 92FS]] as Krusty A. Clown in ''Attack of the Killer Cartoons'' (note), (year). WE should formalize a format and then institute it in the rules. Thanks for pointing this out. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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can someone do Wrongfully Accused with Leslie Nielsen. the reason I ask is because there is a strange LMG version of an M134 in it, and i would like to know what the hell it is, and if it is real.<br />
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== A question --<br />
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So, this wiki has articles about video games, anime and animated films which are either 3d representations or drawings of guns. So why are stop-motion films, and other animation of this kind not allowed here? Why are they an exception?<br />
::That answer is in the rules. The representations of guns are crude and not appropriate to waste IMFDB resources on. We haven't even covered the majority of our CORE genres (Films, Television shows, Anime & VG). And many of our pages are very incomplete or lame. So we tend to discourage new members from trying to introduce even MORE genres for us to cover. That and in those genres the guns are too crude to be listed as anything in particular. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Site working much better! ==<br />
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The Site seems to be working again! Thanks so much to all those who worked on it! --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:31, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hello! Meet the new user msMaryStrikens. ==<br />
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Hello! I really liked your forum, especially this section. I just signed up and immediately decided to introduce myself, if I'm wrong section, ask the moderators to move the topic to the right place, hopefully it will take me well... My name is Mary, me 29 years, humourist and serious woman in one person. I apologize for my English [[Special:Contributions/89.107.104.99|User: 89.107.104.99]]<br />
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:''(Note: this message was moved by the MODs from an incorrect page to the main discussion page)'' [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Question: Live fire in movies ==<br />
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Hi, first of all, please excuse my English, I am not a native speaker. Secondly, please excuse I aks my question here although I know it is not the proper place for this, but I found no forum in this wiki. So here is my question:<br />
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When filming the German movie ''Spione'' (''Spys'', but there never was an English version) in 1928, there was live gun firing because they could not simulate it with special effects (1928), and the gun in the scene in question was fired in the direction of one of the actors. Strangely enough this caused a furor only because filming the scene was repeated several times by the director, who was was the lover of the actress in the scene, but it seems there was no talking about the live firing of a gun in a movie ''per se'' at all. So was using live fire in movies normal in a time they could not use special effects? Are there more films in which they used live fire instead of special effects? Thanks, Gustav<br />
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==[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imfdb IMFBD Wikipeda Page]==<br />
It's been put up for speedy deletion. Could better writers than me go explain why it shouldn't? -[[User:JonathanDP|JonathanDP]] 18:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm not sure I could myself. I mean, a Wikipedia article about another Wiki? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Too late, it's already gone. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Dude, there're many wikipedia articles on other wikis. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wikis Don't believe me?]--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 23:15, 15 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I was actually the one who wrote that article (Rockmandrum on Wikipedia). I wrote that article because there are also different databases such as the IMCFD (Internet Adult Film Database) and I thought IMFDB should go there as it's a database, but my article got tagged for the lack of sources though there are some sources out there. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Featured Quotes question...==<br />
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I dunno who is in charge of the featured quotes section, but I'd like to know. Can we, the registered users, propose new ideas of featured quotes? 'Cause I got a few, and I'm sure other guys have 'em too. [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:45 March 7, 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Quote suggestions ==<br />
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You might want to make your suggestions in the discussion section of the [[Template:Quote]] page. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Page that can't be edited==<br />
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Seems that the [[Ga-rei: Zero]] page can't be edited. There a problem with this or should it be just deleted instead to start all over? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 20:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Just Cause 2==<br />
Hey guys. I know the first Just Cause had no realistic weapons, but that changes with JC2. So far even from the demo I've made out a Desert Eagle, M4-type rifle, MP5/UMP cross, and an M136 AT4. If anyone could screencap the game, I'd gladly do descriptions and the rest. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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==Hi there==<br />
New member here. Just wanted to drop a line. awesome site! Some pics I recognize off the net. Just a question. where do you get the great gun pictures from? I used to use Security arms and Guns of the world for reference but you guys have some of the best pics I've seen, including some that I have never seen anywhere else. If you license from some stock photo site, please let me know. I would be interested in getting access to their image library! :) Kyle<br />
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-For the most part pictures that are used are from MoviePropMaster2008, he is IMFDB's armorer, he has a lot of the pics of weapons on white backgrounds that you see. Many from movies they helped with. However, he doesn't have all of them. Just check for the picture you are looking before uploading any of your own. --[[User:Camden Hennis|Camden Hennis]] 16:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Director's Pages ==<br />
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If I've seen a page on the site like Hurt Locker or Face/Off or even Heat, I might like to know what other films the director has done, so I think the pages are helpful in that respect. Judging by the amount of pages we have for actors who have maybe used or carried a gun once, compared to how many directors pages we have, I don't think you're saving that much on space. Also, if you're looking to make this site a really good reference site, omitting these pages just doesn't make sense. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- Well, next thing you know, we'll include pages/categories for Producers, Production designers, etc. There's only so much this place needs to put on here. There's already an 'Internet Movie DataBase' that has all that other stuff. Like MPM said on another page - Putting a bunch of emphasis on what directors/actors/etc did what takes away from the primary focus of the site, which is to display and discuss the firearms and info directly relating to them. The actors are only here because they're the ones actually seen in movies handling the firearms, but anything other than that I feel would just be too much. If you want to find out about Directors and the like, again, there's IMDB as well as other sites on the internet for that. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Franchise pages ==<br />
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Like director pages, can we make pages for particular game franchises, like all of the Call of Duty games or all the Medal of Honor games? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:21, 8 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- You mean like list pages, like we have for movie franchises, film genres and such? If so, that would be fine, would make reference/look-up of a particular title in a series easier. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 21:44, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:No, unless the franchises have tons of titles that are completely different. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out all of the games titled "Call of Duty" or Medal of Honor" belong to a certain series of games. And I have not seen a surge of titles that OMIT the franchise identifiers like a new title that is officially a part of the Call of Duty series that doesn't have 'Call of Duty' in the title. Unless that happens, the franchise identifiers are NOT NECESSARY and add to the overall clutter that IMFDB is trying to avoid. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I was just talking about the really big franchises, and I guess it'd only apply to the CoD and MoH series. There are a DOZEN games in each series, several of which I've never even heard of. Users here are obviously fans, given how detailed the pages are and the length of the discussion pages. Maybe a chronological listing? Or a glorified disambiguation page? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::There should be a ''see also'' addition to the pages, however, a glorified disambiguation page is not a bad idea. But the pages STILL need a 'see also' section at the bottom of the page that is complete. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Organizing firearms by type ==<br />
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I'm just organizing some pages. [[Heat]] , [[Ronin]] , [[McQ]], [[Public Enemies]] , [[Reign of Fire]] and so forth. I'm not changing the text or screencaps, but I'm anal and I am grouping the firearms by type. Just wanted to get that out there so nobody sends me hate mail. I'm not messing with anybody's hard work. Just helping to organize. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- I took a gander at those pages, I actually like the grouped-together firearms, again, makes reference on the contents of a page easier. Especially if a page has a lot of guns that can be grouped under said categories like those pages.<br />
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Although some people like doing the pages by chronological appearance of the firearms (T2, as well as my own page, [[Nothing But Trouble]], for instance) but those pages either don't have a lot of guns or are very diverse.<br />
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But in pages where there are a lot of guns that can be grouped under some general types (Pistols, SMGs, Shotguns, Assault Rifles, etc) I think it helps. I've certainly seen some pages re-organized as such and it helped. I won't say it's the thing to do for ALL pages, but many would benefit from it. Just my thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks. I'm doing it to the pages that I created and a few pages with many many firearms like [[Heat]]. But I want to do it slowly. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Made for TV movies ==<br />
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What's the ruling on made for TV movies? I've seen them go either ways on this site. Dirty Dozen: the Next Mission is listed as a movie, while Lost Battalion is listed as TV, despite both being made for TV movies. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 21:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::'''What are you talking about? The Lost Battalion is not listed that way'''. For the record, made for TV Movies (or as called in Hollywood MOW for "Movie of the Week" as the major networks used to do, are listed as movies. They are not episodic series or Mini-series. If the entire thing is shown in a single showing then it's a movie. These made for TV movies are sometimes theatrically released overseas, and many of them are released on video/DVD as movies. Anyway that's the rule and I still don't see any violation of that rule. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I was referring to the weapons pages that link to it. For example, the M1917 pistol and rifle pages both have Lost Battalion under Television, while the M1911 and Chauchat entries have it under Film. And others not at all. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 05:16, 25 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Well that's an error on those gun pages. If you see errors like that, which I am sure there are plenty of on IMFDB, please fix them when you see them. There is a LOT of breaks in cross indexing. I've long berated members for creating pages and NOT cross indexing them to actors and gun pages. And with new members creating new pages every other hour or so, the problem is just going to get bigger. All IMFDB members should try to fix cross indexing errors when they see them. Heck, there are pages I've made that I forgot to cross index some of the weapons entries on. But we must be vigilant and try to keep IMFDB accurate and up to date as possible. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Last Hunt ==<br />
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Hi it's been a while since I've seen this but I remember Robert Taylor using a massive Winchester rifle. I was wondering if this was a Model 1886 since he was hunting buffalo with it and it used a .45-90 bullet. <br />
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I've seen a Model '86 Winchester rifle in the Monte Walsh remake and in a recent episode of Pawn Stars and they didn't really look as big as Robert Taylor's. I was just wondering if anyone knew if it was an '86 or maybe something else.<br />
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==Gun-releated quotes on actor/actress page==<br />
I thought of an idea while looking at the quotes section: how about some quotes said by an actor/actress can go on their page? For example, Al Pacino's quote, "Say hello to my little friend," from [[Scarface]] can also go on his page, too. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Screen Used movie firearms ==<br />
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I have recently been searching the website for weapons which were pictures of actual movie firearms, example being weapons in Quentin Tarantino films.<br />
if anyone could list some films for me that would be great. These are some of the ones i have already found:<br />
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*[[Scarface]]<br />
*[[Pulp Fiction]]<br />
*[[Reservoir Dogs]]<br />
*[[True Romance]]<br />
*[[Jackie Brown]]<br />
*[[Lethal Weapon]] series<br />
*[[Die Hard]] series<br />
*[[Predator]]<br />
*[[The Untouchables]]<br />
*[[Austin Powers in Goldmember]]<br />
*[[The Spirit]]<br />
*[[Lord of War]]<br />
*[[Beverly Hills Cop]]<br />
*[[We Were Soldiers]]<br />
*[[Tightrope]]<br />
*[[The Enforcer]]<br />
*[[The Dead Pool]]<br />
*[[Dirty Harry]] - no S&W 29 unfortunately<br />
*[[The Quick and the Dead]]<br />
*[[Man on Fire]]<br />
*[[Miami Vice - Season 3]]<br />
*[[The Getaway (1972)]]<br />
*[[3:10 to Yuma (2007)]]<br />
*[[The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean]]<br />
*[[Machete]]<br />
*[[Fair Game]]<br />
*[[Ghosts of Mars]]<br />
*[[Wild Wild West]]<br />
*[[S.W.A.T. (2003)]]<br />
*[[Collateral]]<br />
*[[Hidalgo]]<br />
*[[Appaloosa]]<br />
That's all I could think of, for now, also many have the pics on the site may not say they were used in a certain film, but a lot of them are movie guns.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::(a) Thank you. :) You're actually just chronicling my work for the site. 90% of the screen used photos I shot exclusively for IMFDB and I kinda wondered myself just how many titles I've covered. (b) it's sad but true that many OTHER gun pics are of guns that I'm certain have appeared in stuff, but unless record have been checked and verified, it can't be said with any sort of certainty. So we have TONS more movie used weapons than not in photographs. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We also have several guns from ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. At some point, I think we need to make a page with all of the screen-used movie guns that MoviePropmaster has photographed for us. And then I also need to make a page with the gun pictures that my contact at ISS sent me. There are a lot of them on this site. Of course, there are also some that we've taken from other sites (like YourProps and PropStore), but I'd probably just put the gun pictures that are IMFDB exclusives. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::That seems like a good idea MT.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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[[Book of Eli, The]] has that kind of stuff on its page and [[The Unit]] as well, if you want to be hardcore about it. [[Spades of Columbia]]<br />
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== Missing firearm (The Peacemaker) ==<br />
Just got done watching this movie & there is a scene between the Russian General & one of the bad guys in the back of the truck (about 1 hour 15 minutes in) & I'm sure the gun that the General threatens him with is a Steyr GB pistol, he also uses it to shoot at the approaching helicopters, could someone else confirm this & update the page?<br />
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== Empty firearm ==<br />
In some films you see that when a gun is fired, the chamber clicks empty but the slide doesn't lock back and I was just curious as to how they manage to do that?<br />
:If it's showcased in a film, then it was intentional. Many directors who are unfamiliar with guns will use that action to indicate that a gun is empty. <br />
:'''''Scene:''' Bad guy points pistol at face of good guy. It is a Beretta 92FS. He pulls the trigger dramatically. "click" nothing happens. Bad guy has panicked look on his face. "Click" "Click"! as he continues to pull the trigger. "Aha!" yells the hero as he swats away the empty gun and punches the bad guy in the face.'' DOH! <br />
:It's done via editing. I seriously doubt most directors would end a gunfight with the phenomenon of a dud round (though dud rounds have appeared in the storylines of some shows). Or a bad primer. Or a worn or damaged magazine which does not engaged the slide lock. Or a worn or damaged slide. But seriously, anyone who fires a gun can pretty much tell when it's empty and devoid of rounds, unless it's not their gun and they're completely unfamiliar with it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:15, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Bad magazines...its not the desired option on semi-autos.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== glock variants ==<br />
i just wondered, is a Glock 19 the same as a Glock 23 with the exeption of the caliber?<br />
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==Main Page error==<br />
Has anyone ever gotten this error before? This happened to me many times. During this error, I cannot go to any pages unless there are links on a page and I'm logged out and I can't log in. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 13:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I have had this happen to me, too. I am running up to date Firefox. It´s a rather odd error, really. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I've encountered it as well. I usually run IE as my browser, and it sometimes carries on when I go through Google Chrome too. Tends to be accompanied with a fair amount of lag as well when it occurs. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:26, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I've never had this error before, but I only update or run programs if I have to. It's running on bare bones only. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 20:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- I had this error as well Friday evening (running FireFox), but as we had a badass lightning storm that probably played havoc with the signal, that ain't too surprising (Lag/connection issue, like Orca alluded to). But I can't speak for you other guys, though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:50, 22 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Page Format Change? ==<br />
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I recently noticed that the page justification seems to be locked down, making actor pages with the table format seem particularly squashed if there's a lot of information. Is there a reason for this? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Here's an example:<br />
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Before, the page would stretch down to fill out the entire screen, but now it seems to stop in the middle.<br />
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:- I also have that same issue, though my screen hasn't lost that much, in which case I'd say it's locked at a particular resolution (1024 I'd have to figure, based upon my own display res). Not to mention it's also present here on this talk page and other pages as well. I too wonder what that's all about. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 13:50, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Might be for the upcoming ad test on IMFDB. will have to wait and see. If that is the case the we will have to change the layout on the pages to something more standard.--[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 16:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
==best guns for an assassin==<br />
what would be the best guns for an assassin????<br />
:That would depend on the situation he's in. Is the the assassin shooting from a distance? Sniper rifle then. In a place where there are other people around that could hear a gunshot. Suppressed small caliber handgun. You should also remember there is a million and one ways to kill someone. A gun is just one of tools to use.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 13:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I understand that, but I was looking for something more precise, like in "Assassins" they make a big deal about using those Ruger .22, but in "Collateral" the hitman uses a H&K .45 (well, he also use a Ruger .22), in "The Replacement Killer" the killer is into Berettas 92f, but what would be the perfect gun for a profesional, smart and effective assassin??????<br />
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:In films like you mention, it's going to depend on what the writer or director chose to use. (Whether it was the ideal choice is another matter.) In Collateral he uses the H&K for the most part because noise isn't an issue and the .45 is a good round. He uses Ruger .22 only when in a restaurant. In the nightclub there's lots of people around, but he could get out with the crowd. The target also had several bodyguards. In the Replacement Killers the 92F was most likely chosen because Chow Yun-Fat used them in his prior films and knew how to handle them. There is no one gun that is the "perfect gun for a professional, smart and effective assassin." Since you're talking handgun distances there's too many good guns to choose from. Go with whatever you feel like in your story (I guess and hope that's the reason why you asked). If I had to choose I'd go with the 1911. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 12:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Agent 47 all the way, AMT Hardballers with optional longslide and supressor. More seriously, I guess a pistol like a Hi-Power or a Beretta 92 with a supressor would be good for closer range killings. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 14:36, 25 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Thank ypu guys, Predator, I'm a scriptwritter, I don't own a gun and I don't want to kill anyone, so don't worry. I just like good assassins in movies, what about a H6K p7m8?????, It's such a compact gun for a 9mm, I always thought it was kind like a tactic gun, isn't it????? why Swat teams are into Kimbers?????<br />
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== Listverse.com ==<br />
Here's a cool little list I found on The List Universe.com about the 10 greatest firearms in history.<br />
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http://listverse.com/2009/10/07/top-10-greatest-firearms-in-history/<br />
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== This is ridiculous...==<br />
anybody else think that the amount of pages slated for deletion is absolutely absurd and unneccesary?</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=339602Talk:Main Page2010-10-09T18:53:58Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>==M*A*S*H*==<br />
Why is there no page for M*A*S*H? i love that show! i don't own any of it though, if somebody made it i would happily help edit! [[User:SargeOverkill]]<br />
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==IMFDB = Internet Movie Firearms Data Base, right?==<br />
That's an assumption from the obvious subject of this Wiki. Don't you think the full name should appear on the Main Page? I don't see it anywhere! Fine Wiki you've got going here. [[Special:Contributions/68.199.188.123|68.199.188.123]] 05:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:You are right! We should have the title INTERNET MOVIE FIREARMS DATA BASE somewhere boldly on the main page. I can EDIT the page, but it has a lot of wiki code on it and I don't want to mess anything up. Can someone else with access (and more wiki code experience) do this change? Can Bunni do this change? It seems pretty obvious and I can't believe we didn't catch it until now. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 15:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Oh, and another question==<br />
Just watched very interesting commercial. Directed by [[Sam Raimi]] it's actually spoofing [[Desperado]]. There are guns, including [[Remington 1866 Derringer]], one of my personal favoties, i can recognize it everywhere. There's also [[John Saxon]] here. Can i do a page about this commercial? Also, if more global, can commercials and music videos be here, as they also media, like video games and movies. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 15:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know about that. That's getting too much out of scope, I think. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::NO Commercials, NO Music Videos. There are tons of commercials that play only in Europe or Asia and we can't verify any of that info here. For one thing, you can't BUY or rent the DVDs of television commercials and (the vast majority of) Music videos to screencap them, or more importantly, confirm the veracity of said pages. Yes, chances are you can find a (usually low rez version) on the Internet, but really, do people wonder about the guns in either of those types of visual media? If we include ALL visual media, then we would be forced to accept news broadcasts, documentaries, industrial or training videos, etc. etc. and veer farther from the central theme of being the MOVIE firearms database. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:08, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::: You wrong actually - there are tons of DVD and festivals, that show commercials. And you can verify them via youtube Though, never mind. But can i do the thing on [[Sam Raimi]] page as a bonus like "Other Works" on IMDB? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 09:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::No YOU'RE WRONG, Kloga. You insist on adding things that are (a) unnecessary and (b) Stupid. I'm on the verge of banning just because you keep on pushing it and pushing when we say NO to your various ideas. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- Commercials? Music videos? Are you joking? Man, there are literally zillions of commercials that have been made in the world, and I'm sure a healthy percentage of them have gun usage. There have also been loads upon loads of music videos, with a much higher percentage of them having firearms in them. All of which would make for a rather ugly number of additional pages. You're talking about increasing this site in size and organization by at least two or three-fold, if not far more. Be realistic. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Request: High Heels & Low Lifes==<br />
While kinda chick-flick-ish, it's still a highly entertaining movie.. and has some really nice looking firearms. There is a scene where one of the main characters, Mason, is standing in the doorway of a darkened apartment, turns to face (three quarters) the camera and pulls out a gun. I have no idea what kind of firearm this is but it looks really awesome.. and if anyone can identify it would be much appreciated!<br />
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==Jacked pictures==<br />
The following are pictures taken from my website. The first one is edited, but it's still my picture. The first version still has my copyright notice on it, as does the second picture. [[Image:M1891.jpg]] and [[Image:M39.jpg]] Please remove all versions of both these pictures from the database. I'm not very familiar with wikis or I'd do it myself. --[[User:7.62x54r.net|7.62x54r.net]] 23:36, 28 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==English Scripts==<br />
To unregistered users. use English script when writing on these pages. Most of us are American and don't run asian word scripts on our computers. Thus Asian letters are unreadable to us and look like gibberish. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:57, 16 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Screencap Legality ==<br />
How do you know whether uploading screencaps violates copyright or not?<br />
: Pretty sure it is okay because no one has hunted us down to sue us, but anyway, as long as you don't claim it is your work and credit only yourself, you should be okay. -GM<br />
:: One thing I would advise you to do is not upload screenshots from pirated copies of movies that haven't been released yet on DVD and Blu Ray. I imagine that if someone working for one of the studios saw that, they would be very upset. They'll know the shots came from a bootleg if the movie isn't out on DVD yet, and they might just throw the book at us. Avoid this at all costs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Merging articles ==<br />
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Is it possible to merge an article with a pre-existing article? Every time I try to do this with particular types of guns, I get an error message that says, "A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name." For instance, if I wanted to move the HK91 article under the H&K G3 article (since the HK91 is a G3 variant, I don't think it needs its own page), I can't do this.<br />
::To merge an article, take the article, copy all the information and put it on the new page in the format you wish to make. You can also do this if you wish to change the name of a page. Take the page that you copied everything from and delete everything on that page. Write on that page this exactly(minus quotes):<br />
"#REDIRECT (then use double [ ] brackets) and write the name of the page EXACTLY AS IT IS. Screw up the name and it'll redirect no where.<br />
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# "#Redirect [[[[M16 rifle series]]]]"<br />
Note:How I made it look finished is what it should look like. Not what it looks like when in the editing of the page. Hope I helped. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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This is probably rhetorical, but is this the same method of redirecting to a page, i.e. [[QBZ-95]] redirecting to [[Norinco QB rifle series]]? I noticed that a page for the QBZ-95 was deleted because there already was one (Norinco QB rifle series), but whenever you type in QBZ-95, there are absolutely no results for it, and that could be confusing for your everyday user..[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 22:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Let there be backups! ==<br />
Ok, I've installed ruby on our dedicated server, signed up for Amazon's s3 storage service, and customized a ruby backup script to automatically backup the database and all image files at 4am pst and upload them to our s3 folder. The process really bogs down the box for a good 10 minutes, so I'm thinking once every 24 hours is fine, but I may go to once every 12 hours eventually... Thanks for putting up with the ups and downs during this time of transition.<br />
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Best,<br />
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Welcome to our new server! This is the first of many steps I am taking to ensure we never lose data again. The site used to be hosted on shared hosting overseas - we now have a dedicated server housed in a co-location in San Jose, CA. Dedicated servers don't come cheap, but your time, effort, and contributions are now my number one priority. <br />
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I'm still transferring the images that have been uploaded over the last couple days, don't worry they're not lost!<br />
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==The McUzi==<br />
It wasn’t until I read the ‘Raw Deal’ article on the “fake Uzi” that I realized Hollywood was dressing MAC-10s up as Uzis.<br />
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In ‘The Dog of War’ the mercenaries are supposed to be using Uzis. However some are using MAC-10s and some are using MACs dressed up as Uzis. The actors seem to change weapons randomly. For example, as the climactic battle begins Tom Berenger is using a real Uzi and Christopher Walken is using a silenced Uzi. However in the final minutes both are using McUzis. This is made painfully clear as Walken holds the gun to his face when reloading.<br />
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There are real MAC Uzi hybrids. These are civilian versions of the Uzi with a .45 barrel, bolt and a MAC-10 magazine well to accept the universal Grease Gun magazines.<br />
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The Hollywood guns are merely MACs with Uzi parts added on. <br />
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I would see to real reason to make a gun like this accept that the filmmakers wanted to use Uzis but ran out. Much like ‘Planet of the Apes’ when the studio ran out of ape costumes they simply used paper mask. If you look closely at the audience of Heston’s mock trial.<br />
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== moved from main page ==<br />
We're on the new server and still working the bugs out - email me at cserrano@gmail.com if you're having any issues editing or logging in. The backup file is from early September 30, so most of yesterdays edits are missing - sorry GunMaster45 I'm working on it! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 17:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC) ''GunMaster45 I've recovered the latest version of the [[Street Kings]] page - anything else we're missing?'' [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 21:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
: I had the R9 pistol which I had uploaed today but I redid it. Will the pictures remain fuzzy and pixelated or is that just temporary? (Hopefully) -GM<br />
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If you find something missing from the old server you can still access it here 66.79.167.132/~imfdb/index.php?title=Main_Page [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 20:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I had just uploaded some pics of the AR18 from Terminator and the Street Sweeper from Total Recall. Can you get them back, or should I upload them again? Also, MPM2008 uploaded some new gun pics, and I don't think he'll appreciate their loss.<br />
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== How do i "screencap" a movie? ==<br />
How do i screencap a movie?:<br />[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 12:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Ah, OK then. We all have our own methods of doing so. Personally, I play my DVDs using VLC Media Player, which has a Snapshot feature which lets you take screenshots when paused, and then it saves them automatically as JPEGs or PNGs to a designated folder of your choosing. However, that's ONLY when I'm screencapping movies I own on DVD. I also rent and download movies using iTunes which I might screencap for IMFDB pages, and I can't play those with VLC. In those cases, I just hit the "Print Screen" key, paste the image into MSPaint, and then crop away the iTunes browser so that only the movie image remains. Then I save them to my HD in a designated folder. Once I've acquired enough screenshots for a movie, I use "Upload file" to put them on IMFDB so that I can use them for pages I edit. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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::First and most importantly, you need a DVD drive in your computer to watch the movie. I watch mine on Windows WinDVD system, which has a built in "screencap" button by pressing P, which saves them all in WinDVD file. I take those files from the folder, which are all saved under BMPs and re-save them as JPGs using Corel Paintshop. If they are widescreen, I use crop to cut them out. I then upload them to the site and post them. Now that I've read MT2008's method for iTunes, I can screencap [[Shoot 'Em Up]] which wasn't compatable with my WinDVD system, but worked on my other DVD player which had no screencap button. Hooray! -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]<br />
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And also you can use the program I use which is CyberLink PowerDVD which also has a built in Screenshot button. First the screenshots start out as BMPs, but then I use Irfan View to save them as JPGs to a different folder. And if they are widescreen, I use Windows Photo Gallery to crop off the black bars. You should also check out Gunmaster's and MT2008's methods because they might be better.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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What about taking pictures on a digital camera and uploading them to your PC? Does anyone know if it works?[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 21:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Thats a very myspace101 question but it's simple there's about 4 ways to do it but I've only done 2. (This demonstration is only done on Windows XP)<br />
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:::Option 1: If your camera has a memory slot like a (Compact Flash, Secure Digital, Mini SD, Micro SD, Memory Stick Pro, MultiMediaCard (MMC), SmartMedia, xD-Picture Card (xD), etc.) you could remove the card from the camera. Step 1: Once you removed the card from the camera if you have a compatible USB card reader you can plug the card reader into the computer and plug the card into the card reader. The most common great quality card reader brands are (Sandisk, Memorex, PNY, and Lexar) for approximately $20.00 at Wal-Mart. <br />
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:::Option 2: If your camera has a connection for a USB cable. Step 1: You can easily find and plug the USB adaptor into the camera and plug the other end of the plug into you computer. <br />
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:::The upload process is easy (tested on Windows XP) your computer bottom right task tray will show a "Found New Hardware" icon and be gone that means your camera is connected. Step 2: A pop up will show on how you want to view your images click on "view with Windows" if this pop up does not pop up you will have to manually follow step 3 if not skip on to step 4. Step 3: You may click "My Computer" or "My Documents" most likely on the desktop or start menu on your computer you will go to "My Computer" and find a folder that says a brand of your memory card or camera. Step: 4 Click on the folder and look through all folders and once you find it you may highlight the folder or the selected images on your computer mouse right click and press copy (or press Ctrl+C on your keyboard) and paste the images where ever you want in your computer.<br />
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== How do i screencap from a television? ==<br />
Like if i wanted to screencap some video games?<br /><br />
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:You probably need some high tech gizmo. Usually people who screencap TV use DVR and record TV on DVD, then upload them on the computer. I've never done it but it may work for VGs. -GM45<br />
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::Personally, I'd recommend maybe trying an emulator to play said game on your computer (assuming your PC is fast enough to handle the software and game). I've been thinking of redoing the ''[[Goldeneye 007]]'' page for a while using Project64 (which has a screencap feature), because I can play that game at high resolution even on my laptop.<br />
:::I recommend softwares like Fraps (only for PC games). It can take images with a click of a button and you can choose what to save it as in the Pictures section. The disadvantage is that you can't record gameplay in computer games and you must pay about $99 (not sure, but around there and you can also pay little by little per month or week to use) it to do unlimited video capturing. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Call of Duty 4 pictures==<br />
I've got good pictures of guns for Call of Duty 4, but i don't know how to upload them, anyone knows how to email me at r1c0ch37@gmail.com<br />
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:All you have to do is go to "Upload file" under the "Toolbox" section in the left-hand column. -MT2008<br />
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==Protection Log?==<br />
Is something wrong with the site. Why are all the pics being fixed with "([edit=sysop:move=sysop])" for a protection log? I know little about that technical stuff, is someone removing the pics or are they just being protected from over-uploading crappy pics over? -GM<br />
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:They're being protected. Some asshole came in earlier today and kept trying to replace MoviePropMaster's pics with stock 'Net images, and kept doing it even after he was asked to stop. MPM's pics are our pride 'n joy...Alienqueen and I agreed not to let them get screwed with anymore. -MT2008<br />
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Yeah, that's reason why I did it. I just wish I had my ability to block users back, and then I wouldn't have had to set up protections. I told that guy not to upload over MPM2008's images and multiple times and he didn't listen.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Flannigan==<br />
on the Snatch page- I know it already says that the .50 is a 357, but also another way of finding out is that .50s fire 7 rounds where as in the film Bullet tooth tony fires 8 in every mag. so it must be a 357.<br />
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==Deleting old files==<br />
As y'all can probably tell, I have been on a huge deleting spree recently. I've been getting rid of files that weren't being used for whatever reason or another. Some of them were gun images that have since been replaced by MoviePropMaster's images, others were old screencaps that have been replaced by newer ones (like all of my old ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' shots, which have since been replaced by GunMaster's), and some were those images of weird experimental guns uploaded by Cutaway that don't appear in any movie and thus have no purpose on this site.<br />
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I realize, of course, that this by itself won't relieve the strain on the servers; it's inevitable as this site grows. But it seems like a worthwhile thing to do. If anyone of the Admins are interested in helping out, please go to "Special Pages" and click on "Unused Files" (at the top). If you see something that might be worth keeping (i.e. Choi's screencaps from ''[[The Killer]]'' which haven't been put on the page yet), leave it alone, but if you see gun images that obviously have no use or screencaps that you know have been replaced...ditch 'em.<br />
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Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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Good Work, MT2008. I'm sure it'll give us more server space, I'll be sure to delete some myself. One question, if we get rid of the old files, will this site load faster?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Beats me, but I'd have to guess...not ''noticeably'' faster. It will at least give us more space for uploading newer files. However, IMFDB is constantly growing, so it's inevitable we'll reach our limits eventually. You'd have to ask Bunni when that will be. Anyway, I'm off to the pub now. I will be back later to continue. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:20, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Go right ahead, you deserve a break. I'll get rid of as many as I can, I'm also seeing alot of screenshots nobody bothered to use, it makes me wonder why people upload them if they're just going to sit there for a year and gather dust. And, I'm also going to screencap [[Four Brothers]] and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]] soon, so you can look forward to seeing them completed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Fictional Firearms==<br />
I propose that we denote pages for 'fictional' firearms with parentheses "like Non Guns" so that they are in a different grouping than real guns. GM has made pages for the fantasy weapons of Hellboy II and that made me think about custom pages for the Morita Rifle (Starship troopers) or the M590 (Space:Above and Beyond) or the Blade Runner Pistol or any of the Star Wars guns (versus other types of Sci fi weapons, these should be guns). Even though THESE fictional guns are based on real guns, they can have their own pages with links to the original weapons page. Regardless, I think that guns that aren't real should be separated, lest they confuse users. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.<br />
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:I agree. I was kinda turned off when I saw the Aliens Resurrection page. None of those guns were based off of real firearms or even guns dressed up to look like futuristic guns.<br />
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::Well I get the point of making a post about fictional guns that were built around real guns like the Morita rifle and the Pulse Rifle of Aliens, but guns that were built from scratch like the Samaritian. Would it really need a page here or is that just for the fanboys who like the gun? It's like a page for the cars used in the Punisher movie or people who like to include knives, swords, and even bows & arrow in pages, including me. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:::The advantage is that the page can inform an interested user that the prop was NOT based on any real firearm, information that is just as important as informing 'what real firearm' was used in a prop weapon. What I don't like are obvious NON crafted weapons .... like [[Molotov cocktails]] ... wtf? That's an improvised weapon, like a sharp stick or a brick.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::What about bows & arrows, or crossbows? I put them in my pages cause when they are used, they an impression and deserve a mention evne though they aren't firearms. Also what about knives and swords? I've seen some of those as well, but I think the knife of Rambo should stay because...well, it's the knife of Rambo. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== My gripe on Empty pages ==<br />
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I've been seeing a lot of new pages lately. The problem is that they are a blank! Nothing, not even a list of guns. What the fuck? I mean, a list of guns with no photos is ok, but just a fucking blank page? Do the people that do that expect someone else to do the work for them? They mind as well type down, "someone list the guns and put up pics for me cause I am lazy as fuck to even give a list." At least writing that down says something. Not just a blank.<br />
:We all understand your pain Exy, we need a more efficient way to let the anonymous users know that if you make a page, you got to do the work. You gotta watch the language though, people will see it and think it is okay to do often. We all do it, but we don't want it done for no reason. Just ignore the empty pages, let them do the work eventually. If they don't, delete the pages. Half of them are movies I've never heard of anyway. Keep an eye out for [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]], I'll have them done this week. -GM<br />
::What about that new member who create thirty or so new movie pages (some of which barely had one gun in them) and then never filled out any of those pages? I'm tempted to give people a little time, but for movies in which I question their relevance to this site, I'm also tempted to get rid of blank pages and let people create them when they're ready to populate them with information. MPM<br />
:::Sorry for the foul launguage. I'm used to talking on forums where the F word is acceptable when you are pissed. Swears is culturally part of any language and sometimes it slips and I like to think we're all adults here that do use swears in real life when it is required. Anyway. Nice job on the [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]] pages. I've only done one movie that had ONE gun in it and it was [[The Forbidden Kingdom]] and even I did the work for it. I guess the anonymous users might also just be curious guys online and just hope we know what movie they are talking about, have it, and would take the time to tell them what guns are in it by doing the pages, but maybe on the main page, someone should put down rules of how to operate this site. I mean, I wanted to put a new qoute into the qoute section, but can't cause I don't know how to do it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=="jacked" summaries"==<br />
One thing that irks me is people 'cut and pasting' a plot summary completely from IMDB. This is not only against IMFDB rules, but if any mods from IMDB sees them, they can make an stink about it. I'm tempted to 'erase' any pirated summaries and put a note to the original writer ''"'''Write your own summary in your own words'''. It isn't too hard, even to re-arrange the sentences and replace some words to make it LOOK like you wrote it yourself. Just don't lift them word for word from another well known source. IMDB itself has a rule that you must write your own summaries and not lift them from other 3rd party sources. So does IMFDB.org. "'' Of course there are so many jacked firearm images here, this may be hypocritical. Which is why I'm working so hard to get IMFDB their own exclusive gun images. But it's one thing to upload an image of an impossible to get gun which no one has, versus taking the time to type a few sentences...<br />
:I agree. I did the same thing with my [[Black Lagoon]] page when I got here, but I took it off mainly because I didn't see the need for a summary at the beginning of the page that is THAT long winded. People are here for the guns and if they want to know what the movie or show is about, they just look it up. I don't know, I stopped writing summaries for movies and shows long ago. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I think we don´t need summaries.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I disagree with those who think "we don't need no stinkin' summaries..." For those people who have NOT seen the movie a SHORT summaries are okay. I've put them on some of my pages, usually when I have something interesting to add. I do like them when someone puts a page for a movie so obscure that I have no idea what it's about (and I don't want to have to go hunting around the web to find out, capice?) I added summaries (and others did) for those REALLY OBSCURE East german B&W movies that are on the site. Who created those pages anyway? Like anyone's going to see Black and white German language communist era DDR movies .... oh well. I can always start creating pages for the cinema of 1930s Lithuania! hahahaha. But having no summary for SOME of the pages sucks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I found some summaries to stick out too much. Maybe a sentence or two to just give the jist, or a catch phrase like, but really I don't do summaries anymore. But I'll think about it for the anime ones simply cause some of them are harder to find or most people wouldn't have interests in them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Leaving your sign==<br />
If you want people to know who you are when you write things on pages and discussion boards, put four ~ symbols after your message. Your user name and time/date are automatically shown. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 20:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::::Yes. Just yes. --Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Problems with formatting==<br />
Anyone notice that some of the wikipages don't show the spaces that we put between sections (so that the formats don't get all jacked up when we have photos on the right). <br />
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I've been trying to fix the benelli shotgun page for a bit now, and every time I add spaces, it doesn't show up in the page. Is this a glitch?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Should we have templates? ==<br />
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Like in Wikipedia?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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It WOULD make this site a bit more...colorful than the standard white background, but if it's too much work, then it's up to whoever really runs this place.<br />
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:In all honesty, what this site needs most of all is cross-referencing of some kind, so that if somebody enters the name of a gun in one page, it shows up on another. It's a downfall of Wikis in general, and this one in particular. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Views==<br />
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Is there a way how I could check how many people viewed may page like on the home page the top 5 articles says how many people have viewed are page. <br />
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== How do i replace a image? ==<br />
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How do i replace a image?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Updating ==<br />
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Can someone please update or add pictures to these listed pages: <br />
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*3000 miles to Graceland<br />
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*Blue streak<br />
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*Snatch<br />
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:The Mask and Snatch are on my to-do list. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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== music videos ==<br />
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should be included on the site...i want to know the guns used in protest the hero's video for blindfolds aside...if anyone knows, please share, or at least where i can find out<br />
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== main page movies ==<br />
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What exactly is the criteria for a film to be featured on the main page? I was thinking of submitting some (unless there are already enough as it is). - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]<br />
:Popular, critically aclaimed (but gun heavy I guess, something that wins 9 oscars but has three guns isn't a good idea), and it should have a decent amount of guns on it (like 15-20 seems about right).<br />
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== Too many screencaps!!! ==<br />
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I'm getting a bit frustrated w/the amount of screencaps we're loading up. Is there any way we can limit the number? The pages are becoming much too long & scrolling takes forever. I know Wikis are not democracies so a vote would be out of the question but can we all please stop indulging our screecap skills by putting ALL our favorite stills from these films up & just have about 2-3 images per firearm? [[User:Tommyt|Tommyt]] 20:14, 18 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:At least for the front page I have to agree - the loading is taking way too long. I'm going to disable the featured page for a while and see how it goes. I can't afford to upgrade the server at the moment to handle the huge load. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Can this be done on individual pages too? Take a look at the page for Shoot 'em Up for instance, seems like everyone just had to throw their favorite frame in there. Also, the Quick & the Dead is pretty bad too... Also, would it be bad in etiquette to go into pages & start cutting out images that are repetitive or unnecessary? [[User:Tommyt|Tommyt]] 18:47, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::Excuse the language but FUCK YOU. And if you start removing my screencaps I'll be sure to remove ''you'' from the site. (sorry about the outburst but it is very rude to blatantly bash my hard work and contributions to this site, and it pisses me off gravely) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
::::No one was bashing the hard work or contributions. Don't confuse legitimate criticism with a personal attack, and your response back was a personal attack and beneath you, especially the fine responses you usually write (and the fact that you're a MOD now). I hope you eventually understand that I also mean no disrespect as well. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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GM's comment aside I'm all for detailed screencaps. Heck I'm going to be trying to collect a bunch for myself. Unfortunantly the interesting films I have are VHS. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:He's got a point though. I dont want to be rude, but when every single time the certain gun is shown, it doesnt really need a picture. 5 tops is ok. GM, you are very nortorious for 13-14 pictures of the same gun. i can understand showing cycling misfeeds/changes in guns, but on the Punisher page, you dont really need that many pictures of Castle shooting Spoon and Dante. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
::You shouldn't have to apologize. The members who seem to LOVE tons of screencaps take it personally, like you're attacking THEM, not the decision to display endless screenshots of guns. I think when they think about it, they may realize that no one is trying to be insulting. When I screencap, I edit the pictures. Sure I might have 14 shots, but I choose the best couple and cull the rest. I don't feel compelled to force everyone to look at every since solitary screenshot, just because I took the time to do them. Just like a writer or artist, you must have the maturity to cut out what is excess, even though at the time it sucks to cut out stuff you like. Looks like some of the new (i.e. young also) members are trying to outdo the record for ridiculous screencaps. [[We Were Soldiers]] is now a page that I no longer like to look at, now that I have to scroll down for ten minutes to see the next section. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== how do i screencap == <br />
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i have many films, games exc that i want to screencap. please can someone tell me how to?<br />
:You need a DVD-rom drive on your computer. Play the movie on a DVD player with a screencapture function. The images will be saved to a folder. Cut off any widescreen or full screen bars and convert the image to a JPG so it can be placed here. You'll need a photo editor such as Corel Photoshop or even Paintshop. Then go to the Upload file section and upload them on the site. Copy the picture's linkage (will say something like "Image:name.jpg") then put the image in double brackets [[]] and paste the linkage. now you'd take this image and write it like this:<br />
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Look at some other pages to see this in use. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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You can actually screencap with any Windows computer, very easily. Just use the Print Screen button and paste it into whatever program you want; you can then crop out the interface and whatnot. You can also use Print Screen + Alt so that you only get what's inside the window instead of everything (I think PrtScn + Alt is what you want. <br />
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==Should this picture be on the M16 Page?==<br />
hahahaha. The CHAMPION of customization in the history of firearms! ..... <br />
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:Oh hell yea! that looks awesome! [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
::Looks like that GIF took a lot of work to make... Awesome though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
:::That would be perfect for the M16 page, so definitely yes!--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Well where on the page should this be on? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Interesting enough I don't see this thing transform into an M16A1 or A2<br />
::M16A1 is dead and gone. the a2 series is the new and improved. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
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Slow it down a touch and it's perfect! And to satisfy those who are sticklers about accuracy: split the animation into "A1" and "A2" animations (one for each M16 variant). <br />
EDIT: Isn't there a silencer for it? Counter-Strike says so...<br />
--Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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How awesome is that AR-15 builder, just love doing it for the hell of it.<br />
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== Grammar/Spelling == <br />
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- Hello gentlemen. First off I just want to start of by telling you guys how much I enjoy this site. Anyhow, I come visiting from IMCDb (Internet Movie Car Database). I'm an administrator over there and given my interest in weapons and the similarity between the two sites, I've taken an interest in visiting your site. However, I've noticed a problem that I wanted to bring up to your guys' attention. Often times there are grammar and spelling mistakes and I think that it is something that you guys can improve upon a bit more. I don't mean to sound like I'm criticizing or I'm calling anybody stupid or anything, but it's things like that that could make the site look cleaner and more appealing. And yes, I do understand that english may not be the first language for some of the posters here. My point is that I'm just giving some friendly advice from who I'd like to think of as someone from a "sister" site. Thanks gents...keep up the great work.<br />
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:: We have tons of contributors who aren't even old enough to shave yet. Does that tell you anything? GM45 once described it as a small group of Mods/ Super users fighting against the cresting tide of the ocean, or something to that effect. :) An apt metaphor. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::Hi, I am a fan of IMCDB myself (it was where I learned all about how M1 Abrams tanks in Hollywood are mocked-up Centurions). I do appreciate your concerns about grammar/spelling and agree with you that it needs to be addressed. However, being that (unlike IMCDB) we are a Wiki open for all to edit, it's somewhat inevitable that this will be an issue. I appreciate the fact that this is less of an issue with IMCDB due to the format of the site, and at times, I wish we could integrate elements of IMCDB into this site to standardize things a bit (I still get annoyed when I see people who call a Beretta 92F a "Berretta M92F" even though it says at the top of the page that this is not the correct spelling). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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::::Fellas, I greatly appreciate the response. I understand the situation with your site and we ourselves deal with some of the same issues, as far as having younger members whose grammar and knowledge isn't exactly ideal. But thanks a lot for the response. And as I said earlier, keep up the good work.<br />
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:::::Thanks. We also have foreign contributors who don't have that great of a grasp of English. We also have guys who just don't know how to spell. One of my buddies who is a combat vet, former 82nd Airborne, types like a two year old on his computer. I jokingly say that I have to create a special filter for Babelfish to decypher what he is typing! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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===Our own movie===<br />
I was thinkin'. We've got a lot of people on this site, a lot of them are very talented, we could probably make our own movie someday. I know a good script writer with an idea already mostly-formed, maybe imfdb should have a meet up and make a movie. We could probably all pool our resources and make an awesome one. Just a whimsical fantasy...-protoAuthor<br />
:A movie based on a website? What the fuck? That won't work. I am sorry but, that just won't work.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::No, I mean we all pitch together and make an action movie. Not based on the website, but the website has the people and resources. As in, a community effort. -protoAuthor<br />
:::That would be cool if only the movie we make is a cheesy action movie in the same vein as Commando, then we can do it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::hahahahaha, uh no. :) Some of us actually work in the movie industry and it's not easy to make a movie, even a crappy backyard effort one with a video camera bought from Walmart. You're right, it's a whimsical fantasy, but you need a TON of talented people who know what they are doing in ALL of the positions of a film production. Not just armorers but you need everyone, a good script, good actors, a good director, a good producer (which amazingly is really hard since the producer is supposed to be a manager, NOT someone who micro manages the work by everyone else), a good crew, skilled camera operators, good cameras, pro lighting gear and a good DP or cinematographer. Oh did I mention TONS of $$ (you could spend a fortune just feeding the crew and paying for insurance and permits - salaries not withstanding). Wait, you also need office staff, pre production staff and post production staff and facilities (digital capture, color correcting, editing, sound engineering and editing) and then where are you going to sell it? You need marketing, posters, ads, trailers, a website, the list goes on and on. No I'm not making fun of your comment. It was funny and just that, fantasizing, but I know you are just throwing this bit out there and are not serious. Because it's akin to someone saying "hey let's stage our own high orbit launch of a satellite, all we need is ....." :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm currently working on an amatuer backyard crap job now, and it is actually turning out quite well. We don't have tons of money but we can fund things like fake blood, spare t-shirts (to cover in fake blood), and blanks. As for lighting, so far everything has been working well for us. We actually have enough filmed now that I'm confident this will be a good movie. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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== Help with VLC ==<br />
I need help with my VLC Media Program. When i screencap movies the program screencaps like normal, but when i upload my images to IMFDB the images stay like this:<br />
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-252103Mk2.jpg|thumb|none|512px|Charlie Sheen in [[Platoon]]. <s>The Problem here is that even when the screencap is in 1200x configuration, the screencap is still away too small.</s> Fixed!]]<br />
:Can Anyone help me with this?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't have that problem, but I'm checking out the settings to see what might cause it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::I imagine you've got this sorted by now, but it's because you missed the letter "p." It's "px" as in "pixel," not "x" as in "times." And that still won't make it larger than the image itself is. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 11:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Discussions on Articles==<br />
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I love this site, I have wasted many hours just browsing the wonderful collection of articles. My only qualm is some users feel that the article pages are also discussion pages to argue the validity of someone's addition. There is nothing that irks me more that when i am reading about a movie and then it becomes some kind of forum. I think this should be regulated to make the site more professional.<br />
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:We try to regulate it and throw those discussions on the discussion pages of articles but there are still some users that discuss on the articles.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:14, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::I agree, that has been a thorn in my side too. Nothing worse than to go to the trouble of creating a thorough, tidy-looking article only for people to clutter it up with chatter and arguements that should be saved for the article's talk page. that 'discussion' tab is up there for a reason, people! [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::I couldn't agree more, it turns me off when I'm going through a neat looking page, and then come across a bunch of comments and arguments. If we could just get into the habit of using the talk page for these arguments, then we'll be more obligated to use them more often.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== This video ==<br />
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Have any of you lazy sons-of-bitches seen this video:<br />
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It's fucking awesome let me tell you. And no, i'm not spamming links just watch the video. It's about us!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:That's been out for a while now; take a look at some of those old gun pics on there, like the long since replaced M16A1/M203 with the 20-round mag. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I know but i never seen it. It's really funny.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::Unfortunately some our members are a bit too thin skinned. This guy wasn't being insulting. He was intentionally obnoxious trying to be a 'showman'. Some guys "telling him to fuck off" in the comments makes us look a bit immature. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== How? ==<br />
how do i create my own page to say what my favourite weapons and movies are and what contributions i have made? please can someone tell me.<br />
:You have to register first and, contribute to this site. Bye!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
i'd hate to sound like an idiot but i've just done that (register and contribute) now what do i do?<br />
:On the upper right corner of your screen there is an panel with thing about your username. Press the one with your name on it and write on it. Also, when editing, there will be an link with "Editing Help". Click it and read it. Now you know how to edit. Yay! Also, put four ~ after any of your messages. That way, you will sign you messages and people will know who you are.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Movie Article Request "Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow" ==<br />
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There are many guns, but I request this mostly for a big mistake in it. When Sky Captain is running on a log with a Colt 1911 (silver) in hand and drops it, the computer rendering shows a revolver of some sort. It is probably the same as the one in the scene where Sky Captain is at his desk and the reporter comes in, and he stops her at gunpoint.<br />
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Sorry if I was vague, but my memory's a little fuzzy.<br />
--Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:46, 3 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:I actually own that film and I ''could'' screencap it ,but I effing hate that movie. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:34, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it really that bad? It looked like it sucked, but I wasn't sure-[[User:S&amp;Wshooter|S&amp;Wshooter]] 21:49, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::It's just really corny. It tries to capture the feel of movies made in the 20's or whenever the hell the movie's suppose to take place, but it is just super, super, super, corny. If it was intentionally corny, it would be funny. But it's not and that's what makes it bad. The only redeeming part is that Angelina Jolie is in it. Unfortunately, she's always in a uniform and has a patch over one eye, so it's not really worth it in the end. The dues ex Machina near the end doesn't help, or the fact that the female lead is the type of person that would push a button for no other reason then it says "DO NOT PUSH". --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 21:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== How do I ==<br />
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get pictures on a page? not screencaps but an actor holding a gun in a movie?<br />
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== Fixed Width 1000px ==<br />
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I'm working on making the front page a fixed width design... let me play with the ads and featured articles for a couple days. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 22:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Created a new template for featured articles, you can play with it at [[Template:FeaturedArticle]]. I've currently only added 3:10 to Yuma and Live Free or Die Hard - feel free to add more. [[User:Bunni|bunni]]<br />
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==Random screencap==<br />
Is there any chance of bringing this feature back? I liked looking at the different screenshots. [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 11 Oct 2009<br />
::Do you prefer having the site crash more often than not, for this little inconvenience?<br />
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==Still having problems with the SITE==<br />
I am getting 503 error messages all the time. 80% of the time I can't get it. Until this is fixed, I am taking a break because I waste HOURS trying to rewrite edits and multiple attempts to upload images. Don't know what we can do about it. Is there something we can do, like have a one week moratorium on any members uploading anything to see if all the hits from views is what is causing it? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I emailed Bunni about this a few days ago, so I hope he'll get it fixed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Forum problems - can't log in==<br />
Which is why I am posting this here. I can't get into the Forum. When I type in (CORRECTLY) my user name and password, I get this error message that I have ''used up ALL Of my five (5!) login attempts'' (WTF?). Just '''today''' when I tried to login in, the error message said '''''"You've used up six (6!) of your five (5) login attempts.''''' You cannot try again for another fifteen minutes. Again WTF? I tried ONCE and it didn't take and the system thought I had tried many times. Again, something is wrong with the servers. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, I'm getting that error also. My guess is that it is because someone is trying to hack our forum accounts; so that is probably why it says we have used up our login attempts. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== I need help with a Link problem ==<br />
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I started a State of Grace page, which shows up when entered in the search box, but when I went to add the info from the movie to the actors pages the link back to State of Grace is said to be deleted. Like when I went to the Sean Penn page and entered what pistol he used and entered State of Grace, when I click on State of Grace it brings to a page that says: <br />
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• 18:32, 15 April 2009 Gunmaster45 (Talk | contribs) deleted ''"State of Grace" (content before blanking was: 'This excellent movie starred Sean Penn, Ed Harris, and Gary Oldman. Penn, an undercover cop infiltrating the Irish mob in NYC carried a Smith 6906 in .9mm with a Ruger SP101 backup gun. Gary Oldman, a thug, carried ...')'' <br />
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Does this mean I need to copy and paste all the work I did into that deleted page? Searching for the movie from the search box will bring you to the page I created from scratch, but the link from the actors pages brings you to that notice of an old deleted page. Can anyone help? --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 03:31, 16 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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There was a small difference in titles between the link and the page you created. The link was State of Grace and the title of your page was State Of Grace, so that's why it didn't link. I made a redirect on the previously deleted page so it should work now.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Movies Page ==<br />
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I don't know if anyone has noticed but in the movies page King Kong (1933) is listed under B and there's no entry for it under K. Reason I'm saying this is because I guess only admins can edit category pages? because nothing pops up when I click edit.-[[User:Shooter2|Shooter2]]<br />
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::I fixed it. Someone put B&W in the same Category line as "movie". YOu put the categories in separate lines. WHen you put B&W in the same line, it thinks that you want the movie categorized in the "B" category [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:26, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Movies deletion ==<br />
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Could you please delete [[The Alamo (2004)]] since there is already is the title under ''[[Alamo (2004), The]]''? Thanks--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:48, 30 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
== Redirects ==<br />
Can someone please teach me how to create redirects?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Non Related Quotes==<br />
How does the quote "Come quietly or there will be...trouble. --[[RoboCop]]" relate to firearms? Should this quote be removed from the featured quote list or not?<br />
:I thought that as well, so I deleted it --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:42, 13 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Can't get into the FORUM .... AGAIN!!!!!!!==<br />
If anyone is interested as to why I have NOT deleted spammers, I CAN"T GET INTO THE FORUM!!!!! every time I try to log in, it boots me out! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:28, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Sucks for you, dude. Lets just hope that whatever is causing the problem is fixed<br />
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== Do a page on Pavement ==<br />
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Can someone please do a page on a movie called Pavement that stars Robert Patrick and Lauren Holly filmed in 2002. I was interested the weapons SWAT used and was pretty sure at one point even though she hadn't fired her weapon while clearing a house the top slide of her sidearm was locked back. I'd do it myself but I don't know where to find this movie as I saw it on TV one night and haven't done it before so wouldn't know how to make a page. Cheers<br />
:Pavement was filmed in South Africa, even though the story is set in San Francisco. Funny how San Francisco, suddenly looks like the scenes from District 9? Lauren Holly used a Vektor CP1 pistol, and yes, she pops out and her slide is open, but it looks like she fired and the editor removed the sequence of her firing, wanting instead for the crazy dude to force her to withdraw by firing his shotgun first. It was an editorial decision that screwed up what was already filmed. The SWAT team used South African R4s, Vektor CR21s, some dummy SIG 550s and one M16A1(probably a replica). The weapons are what one expects from a South African production. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Actor's Pages ==<br />
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I see that a lot of the actor pages are being converted to the "table" format, but I don't know if it's clear what should be in the first category. Should the guns be placed first before what movie the actor used them in? I would prefer it this way, because it's easier to read that way. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::You're right in pointing this out. I see NEW MEMBERS are changing the order in the tables on the ACTOR pages. Traditionally it's been WEAPON, then CHARACTER, then MOVIE TITLE, then notes. That format was chosen because it flows like a 'sentence'. I.e. John Doe has used the following ...... a [[Beretta 92FS]] as Krusty A. Clown in ''Attack of the Killer Cartoons'' (note), (year). WE should formalize a format and then institute it in the rules. Thanks for pointing this out. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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can someone do Wrongfully Accused with Leslie Nielsen. the reason I ask is because there is a strange LMG version of an M134 in it, and i would like to know what the hell it is, and if it is real.<br />
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== A question --<br />
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So, this wiki has articles about video games, anime and animated films which are either 3d representations or drawings of guns. So why are stop-motion films, and other animation of this kind not allowed here? Why are they an exception?<br />
::That answer is in the rules. The representations of guns are crude and not appropriate to waste IMFDB resources on. We haven't even covered the majority of our CORE genres (Films, Television shows, Anime & VG). And many of our pages are very incomplete or lame. So we tend to discourage new members from trying to introduce even MORE genres for us to cover. That and in those genres the guns are too crude to be listed as anything in particular. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Site working much better! ==<br />
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The Site seems to be working again! Thanks so much to all those who worked on it! --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:31, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hello! Meet the new user msMaryStrikens. ==<br />
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Hello! I really liked your forum, especially this section. I just signed up and immediately decided to introduce myself, if I'm wrong section, ask the moderators to move the topic to the right place, hopefully it will take me well... My name is Mary, me 29 years, humourist and serious woman in one person. I apologize for my English [[Special:Contributions/89.107.104.99|User: 89.107.104.99]]<br />
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:''(Note: this message was moved by the MODs from an incorrect page to the main discussion page)'' [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Question: Live fire in movies ==<br />
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Hi, first of all, please excuse my English, I am not a native speaker. Secondly, please excuse I aks my question here although I know it is not the proper place for this, but I found no forum in this wiki. So here is my question:<br />
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When filming the German movie ''Spione'' (''Spys'', but there never was an English version) in 1928, there was live gun firing because they could not simulate it with special effects (1928), and the gun in the scene in question was fired in the direction of one of the actors. Strangely enough this caused a furor only because filming the scene was repeated several times by the director, who was was the lover of the actress in the scene, but it seems there was no talking about the live firing of a gun in a movie ''per se'' at all. So was using live fire in movies normal in a time they could not use special effects? Are there more films in which they used live fire instead of special effects? Thanks, Gustav<br />
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==[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imfdb IMFBD Wikipeda Page]==<br />
It's been put up for speedy deletion. Could better writers than me go explain why it shouldn't? -[[User:JonathanDP|JonathanDP]] 18:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm not sure I could myself. I mean, a Wikipedia article about another Wiki? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Too late, it's already gone. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Dude, there're many wikipedia articles on other wikis. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wikis Don't believe me?]--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 23:15, 15 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I was actually the one who wrote that article (Rockmandrum on Wikipedia). I wrote that article because there are also different databases such as the IMCFD (Internet Adult Film Database) and I thought IMFDB should go there as it's a database, but my article got tagged for the lack of sources though there are some sources out there. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Featured Quotes question...==<br />
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I dunno who is in charge of the featured quotes section, but I'd like to know. Can we, the registered users, propose new ideas of featured quotes? 'Cause I got a few, and I'm sure other guys have 'em too. [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:45 March 7, 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Quote suggestions ==<br />
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You might want to make your suggestions in the discussion section of the [[Template:Quote]] page. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Page that can't be edited==<br />
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Seems that the [[Ga-rei: Zero]] page can't be edited. There a problem with this or should it be just deleted instead to start all over? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 20:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Just Cause 2==<br />
Hey guys. I know the first Just Cause had no realistic weapons, but that changes with JC2. So far even from the demo I've made out a Desert Eagle, M4-type rifle, MP5/UMP cross, and an M136 AT4. If anyone could screencap the game, I'd gladly do descriptions and the rest. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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==Hi there==<br />
New member here. Just wanted to drop a line. awesome site! Some pics I recognize off the net. Just a question. where do you get the great gun pictures from? I used to use Security arms and Guns of the world for reference but you guys have some of the best pics I've seen, including some that I have never seen anywhere else. If you license from some stock photo site, please let me know. I would be interested in getting access to their image library! :) Kyle<br />
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-For the most part pictures that are used are from MoviePropMaster2008, he is IMFDB's armorer, he has a lot of the pics of weapons on white backgrounds that you see. Many from movies they helped with. However, he doesn't have all of them. Just check for the picture you are looking before uploading any of your own. --[[User:Camden Hennis|Camden Hennis]] 16:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Director's Pages ==<br />
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If I've seen a page on the site like Hurt Locker or Face/Off or even Heat, I might like to know what other films the director has done, so I think the pages are helpful in that respect. Judging by the amount of pages we have for actors who have maybe used or carried a gun once, compared to how many directors pages we have, I don't think you're saving that much on space. Also, if you're looking to make this site a really good reference site, omitting these pages just doesn't make sense. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- Well, next thing you know, we'll include pages/categories for Producers, Production designers, etc. There's only so much this place needs to put on here. There's already an 'Internet Movie DataBase' that has all that other stuff. Like MPM said on another page - Putting a bunch of emphasis on what directors/actors/etc did what takes away from the primary focus of the site, which is to display and discuss the firearms and info directly relating to them. The actors are only here because they're the ones actually seen in movies handling the firearms, but anything other than that I feel would just be too much. If you want to find out about Directors and the like, again, there's IMDB as well as other sites on the internet for that. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Franchise pages ==<br />
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Like director pages, can we make pages for particular game franchises, like all of the Call of Duty games or all the Medal of Honor games? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:21, 8 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- You mean like list pages, like we have for movie franchises, film genres and such? If so, that would be fine, would make reference/look-up of a particular title in a series easier. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 21:44, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:No, unless the franchises have tons of titles that are completely different. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out all of the games titled "Call of Duty" or Medal of Honor" belong to a certain series of games. And I have not seen a surge of titles that OMIT the franchise identifiers like a new title that is officially a part of the Call of Duty series that doesn't have 'Call of Duty' in the title. Unless that happens, the franchise identifiers are NOT NECESSARY and add to the overall clutter that IMFDB is trying to avoid. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I was just talking about the really big franchises, and I guess it'd only apply to the CoD and MoH series. There are a DOZEN games in each series, several of which I've never even heard of. Users here are obviously fans, given how detailed the pages are and the length of the discussion pages. Maybe a chronological listing? Or a glorified disambiguation page? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::There should be a ''see also'' addition to the pages, however, a glorified disambiguation page is not a bad idea. But the pages STILL need a 'see also' section at the bottom of the page that is complete. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Organizing firearms by type ==<br />
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I'm just organizing some pages. [[Heat]] , [[Ronin]] , [[McQ]], [[Public Enemies]] , [[Reign of Fire]] and so forth. I'm not changing the text or screencaps, but I'm anal and I am grouping the firearms by type. Just wanted to get that out there so nobody sends me hate mail. I'm not messing with anybody's hard work. Just helping to organize. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- I took a gander at those pages, I actually like the grouped-together firearms, again, makes reference on the contents of a page easier. Especially if a page has a lot of guns that can be grouped under said categories like those pages.<br />
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Although some people like doing the pages by chronological appearance of the firearms (T2, as well as my own page, [[Nothing But Trouble]], for instance) but those pages either don't have a lot of guns or are very diverse.<br />
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But in pages where there are a lot of guns that can be grouped under some general types (Pistols, SMGs, Shotguns, Assault Rifles, etc) I think it helps. I've certainly seen some pages re-organized as such and it helped. I won't say it's the thing to do for ALL pages, but many would benefit from it. Just my thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks. I'm doing it to the pages that I created and a few pages with many many firearms like [[Heat]]. But I want to do it slowly. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Made for TV movies ==<br />
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What's the ruling on made for TV movies? I've seen them go either ways on this site. Dirty Dozen: the Next Mission is listed as a movie, while Lost Battalion is listed as TV, despite both being made for TV movies. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 21:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::'''What are you talking about? The Lost Battalion is not listed that way'''. For the record, made for TV Movies (or as called in Hollywood MOW for "Movie of the Week" as the major networks used to do, are listed as movies. They are not episodic series or Mini-series. If the entire thing is shown in a single showing then it's a movie. These made for TV movies are sometimes theatrically released overseas, and many of them are released on video/DVD as movies. Anyway that's the rule and I still don't see any violation of that rule. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I was referring to the weapons pages that link to it. For example, the M1917 pistol and rifle pages both have Lost Battalion under Television, while the M1911 and Chauchat entries have it under Film. And others not at all. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 05:16, 25 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Well that's an error on those gun pages. If you see errors like that, which I am sure there are plenty of on IMFDB, please fix them when you see them. There is a LOT of breaks in cross indexing. I've long berated members for creating pages and NOT cross indexing them to actors and gun pages. And with new members creating new pages every other hour or so, the problem is just going to get bigger. All IMFDB members should try to fix cross indexing errors when they see them. Heck, there are pages I've made that I forgot to cross index some of the weapons entries on. But we must be vigilant and try to keep IMFDB accurate and up to date as possible. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Last Hunt ==<br />
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Hi it's been a while since I've seen this but I remember Robert Taylor using a massive Winchester rifle. I was wondering if this was a Model 1886 since he was hunting buffalo with it and it used a .45-90 bullet. <br />
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I've seen a Model '86 Winchester rifle in the Monte Walsh remake and in a recent episode of Pawn Stars and they didn't really look as big as Robert Taylor's. I was just wondering if anyone knew if it was an '86 or maybe something else.<br />
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==Gun-releated quotes on actor/actress page==<br />
I thought of an idea while looking at the quotes section: how about some quotes said by an actor/actress can go on their page? For example, Al Pacino's quote, "Say hello to my little friend," from [[Scarface]] can also go on his page, too. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Screen Used movie firearms ==<br />
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I have recently been searching the website for weapons which were pictures of actual movie firearms, example being weapons in Quentin Tarantino films.<br />
if anyone could list some films for me that would be great. These are some of the ones i have already found:<br />
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*[[Scarface]]<br />
*[[Pulp Fiction]]<br />
*[[Reservoir Dogs]]<br />
*[[True Romance]]<br />
*[[Jackie Brown]]<br />
*[[Lethal Weapon]] series<br />
*[[Die Hard]] series<br />
*[[Predator]]<br />
*[[The Untouchables]]<br />
*[[Austin Powers in Goldmember]]<br />
*[[The Spirit]]<br />
*[[Lord of War]]<br />
*[[Beverly Hills Cop]]<br />
*[[We Were Soldiers]]<br />
*[[Tightrope]]<br />
*[[The Enforcer]]<br />
*[[The Dead Pool]]<br />
*[[Dirty Harry]] - no S&W 29 unfortunately<br />
*[[The Quick and the Dead]]<br />
*[[Man on Fire]]<br />
*[[Miami Vice - Season 3]]<br />
*[[The Getaway (1972)]]<br />
*[[3:10 to Yuma (2007)]]<br />
*[[The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean]]<br />
*[[Machete]]<br />
*[[Fair Game]]<br />
*[[Ghosts of Mars]]<br />
*[[Wild Wild West]]<br />
*[[S.W.A.T. (2003)]]<br />
*[[Collateral]]<br />
*[[Hidalgo]]<br />
*[[Appaloosa]]<br />
That's all I could think of, for now, also many have the pics on the site may not say they were used in a certain film, but a lot of them are movie guns.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::(a) Thank you. :) You're actually just chronicling my work for the site. 90% of the screen used photos I shot exclusively for IMFDB and I kinda wondered myself just how many titles I've covered. (b) it's sad but true that many OTHER gun pics are of guns that I'm certain have appeared in stuff, but unless record have been checked and verified, it can't be said with any sort of certainty. So we have TONS more movie used weapons than not in photographs. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We also have several guns from ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. At some point, I think we need to make a page with all of the screen-used movie guns that MoviePropmaster has photographed for us. And then I also need to make a page with the gun pictures that my contact at ISS sent me. There are a lot of them on this site. Of course, there are also some that we've taken from other sites (like YourProps and PropStore), but I'd probably just put the gun pictures that are IMFDB exclusives. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::That seems like a good idea MT.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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[[Book of Eli, The]] has that kind of stuff on its page and [[The Unit]] as well, if you want to be hardcore about it. [[Spades of Columbia]]<br />
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== Missing firearm (The Peacemaker) ==<br />
Just got done watching this movie & there is a scene between the Russian General & one of the bad guys in the back of the truck (about 1 hour 15 minutes in) & I'm sure the gun that the General threatens him with is a Steyr GB pistol, he also uses it to shoot at the approaching helicopters, could someone else confirm this & update the page?<br />
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== Empty firearm ==<br />
In some films you see that when a gun is fired, the chamber clicks empty but the slide doesn't lock back and I was just curious as to how they manage to do that?<br />
:If it's showcased in a film, then it was intentional. Many directors who are unfamiliar with guns will use that action to indicate that a gun is empty. <br />
:'''''Scene:''' Bad guy points pistol at face of good guy. It is a Beretta 92FS. He pulls the trigger dramatically. "click" nothing happens. Bad guy has panicked look on his face. "Click" "Click"! as he continues to pull the trigger. "Aha!" yells the hero as he swats away the empty gun and punches the bad guy in the face.'' DOH! <br />
:It's done via editing. I seriously doubt most directors would end a gunfight with the phenomenon of a dud round (though dud rounds have appeared in the storylines of some shows). Or a bad primer. Or a worn or damaged magazine which does not engaged the slide lock. Or a worn or damaged slide. But seriously, anyone who fires a gun can pretty much tell when it's empty and devoid of rounds, unless it's not their gun and they're completely unfamiliar with it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:15, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Bad magazines...its not the desired option on semi-autos.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== glock variants ==<br />
i just wondered, is a Glock 19 the same as a Glock 23 with the exeption of the caliber?<br />
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Yes<br />
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==Main Page error==<br />
Has anyone ever gotten this error before? This happened to me many times. During this error, I cannot go to any pages unless there are links on a page and I'm logged out and I can't log in. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 13:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
[[Image:Mainpageerror.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br />
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: I have had this happen to me, too. I am running up to date Firefox. It´s a rather odd error, really. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I've encountered it as well. I usually run IE as my browser, and it sometimes carries on when I go through Google Chrome too. Tends to be accompanied with a fair amount of lag as well when it occurs. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:26, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I've never had this error before, but I only update or run programs if I have to. It's running on bare bones only. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 20:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- I had this error as well Friday evening (running FireFox), but as we had a badass lightning storm that probably played havoc with the signal, that ain't too surprising (Lag/connection issue, like Orca alluded to). But I can't speak for you other guys, though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:50, 22 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Page Format Change? ==<br />
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I recently noticed that the page justification seems to be locked down, making actor pages with the table format seem particularly squashed if there's a lot of information. Is there a reason for this? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Here's an example:<br />
[[Image:Actor Page Format.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br />
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Before, the page would stretch down to fill out the entire screen, but now it seems to stop in the middle.<br />
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:- I also have that same issue, though my screen hasn't lost that much, in which case I'd say it's locked at a particular resolution (1024 I'd have to figure, based upon my own display res). Not to mention it's also present here on this talk page and other pages as well. I too wonder what that's all about. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 13:50, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Might be for the upcoming ad test on IMFDB. will have to wait and see. If that is the case the we will have to change the layout on the pages to something more standard.--[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 16:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
==best guns for an assassin==<br />
what would be the best guns for an assassin????<br />
:That would depend on the situation he's in. Is the the assassin shooting from a distance? Sniper rifle then. In a place where there are other people around that could hear a gunshot. Suppressed small caliber handgun. You should also remember there is a million and one ways to kill someone. A gun is just one of tools to use.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 13:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I understand that, but I was looking for something more precise, like in "Assassins" they make a big deal about using those Ruger .22, but in "Collateral" the hitman uses a H&K .45 (well, he also use a Ruger .22), in "The Replacement Killer" the killer is into Berettas 92f, but what would be the perfect gun for a profesional, smart and effective assassin??????<br />
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:In films like you mention, it's going to depend on what the writer or director chose to use. (Whether it was the ideal choice is another matter.) In Collateral he uses the H&K for the most part because noise isn't an issue and the .45 is a good round. He uses Ruger .22 only when in a restaurant. In the nightclub there's lots of people around, but he could get out with the crowd. The target also had several bodyguards. In the Replacement Killers the 92F was most likely chosen because Chow Yun-Fat used them in his prior films and knew how to handle them. There is no one gun that is the "perfect gun for a professional, smart and effective assassin." Since you're talking handgun distances there's too many good guns to choose from. Go with whatever you feel like in your story (I guess and hope that's the reason why you asked). If I had to choose I'd go with the 1911. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 12:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Agent 47 all the way, AMT Hardballers with optional longslide and supressor. More seriously, I guess a pistol like a Hi-Power or a Beretta 92 with a supressor would be good for closer range killings. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 14:36, 25 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Thank ypu guys, Predator, I'm a scriptwritter, I don't own a gun and I don't want to kill anyone, so don't worry. I just like good assassins in movies, what about a H6K p7m8?????, It's such a compact gun for a 9mm, I always thought it was kind like a tactic gun, isn't it????? why Swat teams are into Kimbers?????<br />
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== Listverse.com ==<br />
Here's a cool little list I found on The List Universe.com about the 10 greatest firearms in history.<br />
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http://listverse.com/2009/10/07/top-10-greatest-firearms-in-history/</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Mail_Call&diff=339601Talk:Mail Call2010-10-09T18:53:26Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Next page to be 'nuked' and more? */</p>
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<div>[[Image:SNAFUYouSunkMyBattleshipYouAsshole!.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"You sunk my battleship, you ''asshole''!]]<br />
Makes me laugh every time XD<br />
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==Next page to be 'nuked' and more?==<br />
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I've noticed a lot of Delete notices on pages such as Weaponology and Future Weapons as of late. Now I know there is a kind-of unspoken rule about 'documentary' pages not being allowed, but, I don't know, I'm wondering is this is getting a bit much.. At the very least, I'm worried that it's something that will inevitably concern several additional, and arguably very popular pages. One of which being this one - Since this is a sort of documentary show (As well as ''Lock 'n Load''), will it get slated for deletion as well? I have to say I'm finding that possibility a bit disconcerting; Of course I like this page, but it's also a bit disconcerting on a general level, especially given there's no specific mention or even allusion of non-allowance of documentary pages on the RS&P page. Though that is probably just an oversight, it still should be addressed on the rules page itself, since the template regards the page being against the rules when in fact, the pages are conforming to the RS&P as it's presently stated. That aside, what will this mean in the future for this page and others like it? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:25, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:While it has been decided that documentaries should not be allowed on IMFDB an exception was made for Mail Call because alot of work was put into it and it was created before the decision was made. Basically it has been grandfathered in. A notice about that should probably be put on the page. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 18:38, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
That seems iffy to me. I don't think any pages should be slated for deletion until the Rules and Standards are changed to reflect this rule (which, by the way, we don't know actually exists- we only have your word that it does).<br />
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::- AdAstra is an admin, and other admins and older members have stated here and there that documentaries aren't allowed (Again, it indeed isn't on the RS&P page, but that's an oversight and one that seems will be only temporary). Anyway, it is for good reason - I understand myself about the documentary thing, because it would encompass a vastly insane number of TV shows (As in, more than the site could probably even handle), but I was just a bit perturbed by how many notices I've seen on pages today. Of course part of me would request an exception for pages like 'Future Weapons' as they deal almost specifically on firearms themselves, but they themselves are massive pages with loads of weapons in various configurations and again, it may be a bit much. Plus such a exception would include shows like 'Tales Of The Gun', 'Guns of the World' and numerous other shows, and again we've kind arrived at the same problem (Plus many of those shows are VERY similar anyway). A grandfather clause I can understand though... However I'm sure Lock 'N Load was made quite recently, so will it get the ax? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:43, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm aware AdAstra is an admin, but like you, it seems like a huge number of pages are slated to get the ax and I'd simply like to know the standards that are going to apply to the "grandfather clause," and how it will be fairly decided what pages get grandfathered in and which don't.<br />
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:- Ah, fair enough, I got ya. I'm sure the admins will collectively come to a consensus about certain pages and how this 'Documentary' rule will be stated/enforced and make public note of it in due course. I too would like to know what may stay and what will definitely go and so on. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:51, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It's really debatable on if this page and others like my Lock'n Load page should get axed on the basis that they are documentaries and since they are shows EXPLAINING the firearms in question, wouldnt need to actually list the guns shown [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:52, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm leaning towards Excalibur on this one. It seems like the admins should have figured this one out and made it clear cut and finalized before going around and tagging everything for deletion.<br />
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==...==<br />
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I'm not exactly a regular viewer, but I've watched this show enough to know that you'll be middle-aged by the time you finished documenting all of the weapons in it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Well I already have two seasons and SNAFU done. It will take maybe a month or two, but the other seasons can also be completed. Plus, once I'm done, it will be litterally impossible to make a page with more guns. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
::This page is going to be ridiculously huge once every season is added. Should I divide the page into seasons, like have Seasons 1 & 2 on one page, 3 & 4 on the next, etc?<br />
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==The King of IMFB==<br />
Mail Call is at 98 guns and counting. And I still have 6 more seasons to add eventually! The Unit cowers in fear. A new king rules the site. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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:It's a history channel show about guns. What do you expect? I've seen most of the episodes but I didn't bother screen capping them because it's more like an info show about guns with R. Lee Ermey. You don't need to know what guns they use because the show is all about tell you [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Personally, I still don't understand why you guys are competing to have the longest gun pages on IMFDB. I just don't get why this excites people so much. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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:Cause we can. It's something to encourage the making of pages. A sense of pride that you made a page, cap all the guns and it looks good in your eyes. And I'm seeing some repeats in the page. We don't need to know in the second season they used the M1 Garand again. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
::It is the easiest organization. Plus, if we see it again, like how we see Gunny shoot it in different episodes, we see it much better, it helps document it better (Think of it like each season is a new page, I figured this was the easiest way to document such a huge show). And it doesn't tell you every single gun on the show. 70% of the guns I capped from this show I had to know from my own knowledge. I don't mean to offend you Ex, but after so much hard work (and very little sleep), I just want my bragging rights. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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Being someone without history channel, I like to think I'm showing all the people like me the guns of the show. Once I get the rest of the Seasons on here, I'm going to love doing the Knob Creek episode. I reccomend you all watch the video on youtube, it is incredible. And since Gunny doesn't tell us every gun we see, it will aid the viewer greatly. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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:Look, I don't really think repeating a gun is better orginazation, it's just repetition and counting a repeat on the overal of how many guns is kinda cheating. Yoy claim this page has 98 guns, but I've counted 5 of them repeat at least once, the M16A1 is up there 3 times. How hard is it to compact all the kinds of caps of the same gun under one section instead of 3? You are entitled to brag, and it's a very nice and big page you got here. I just think you over did it with the repeats. It's like if I started to cap repeats of guns from every season of The Unit and start a new section for that repeated gun, I'd be all day on my page doing that. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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For anyone who is interested, the first 5 seasons of Mail Call are available on Hulu. 61 full episodes. --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 06:47, 26 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==GM45==<br />
I'd hate to say this, but you're quite an asshole. On here your talking down Marines because they have their fingers on the triggers. You have to remember, these are the guys who have pleged their lives towards the defending and sustainment of our lives. They are also training to fight in a war that has claimed thousands of lives, three of which were very close friends of mine. Again, i apologise, but please edit the rude remarks off the page. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
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He's usually talking about actors, though, isn't he?<br />
:Not on this page [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
::I guarantee you I had no intention of offending anyone. I can remove the comment on the M203 section about the guy with his finger on the trigger, but I didn't mean to say it to insult him or any Marines, I guess I was just noting a recruit slip up (not a big deal, it can go). I don't think it merits me being considered an asshole, but I'll change it for the sake of the guys with theirs lives on the line every day. Let me know if there are any other assholish comments I should remove ;) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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== Few Points ==<br />
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-The section with the M1903 Mk.I Springfield, where US troops are seen using them, I very much doubt are Mk.Is. Without seeing the cutout for the Pederson device it's impossible to be 100% sure, but Mk.Is were never actually issued during WW1. It and the Pederson device were intended to be used in the planned offensives of spring 1919, by the time the war ended they hadn't made nearly enough to issue.<br />
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- The Colt New Service seen in a 101st Airborne Reenactor's shoulder holster is a Smith & Wesson Victory. You can tell by the grips, the size of the gun and the style of the holster. Kinda farby for a 101st reenactor, the Victorys were mostly issued to Navy and USMC troops in the Pacific.<br />
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-I very much doubt those are British troops with the M1914 Hotchkiss, while the British Army did use a Hotchkiss gun, it was the M1909 Portative model. I suspect they're mostly likely Americans, or possibly Belgians.<br />
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-The Hawkins Plains Rifle is not a modern weapon, it was introduced in the 1850s by the Hawkins brothers as the first commercial rifle intended for hunting western game. It was extremely popular at the time. It's become such a mainstay of modern hunters for the same reason it was popular back then - it's light, handy and has a big enough calibre for western game, and also because muzzle loader hunting became popular about the same time Jeremiah Johnson came out, where Robert Redford prominently used a Hawkins.<br />
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-Nyles<br />
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== M1-C or M1-D ==<br />
I noticed that if you look at the barrel of M1-c it doesn't have the widened barrel that M1-c has. this leads me to belive that it is a M1-D not an M1-c. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:09, 8 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
:The "widened barrel" is a clip-on flash supressor, it comes off and was used with both models.</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Mail_Call&diff=339597Talk:Mail Call2010-10-09T18:49:27Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Next page to be 'nuked' and more? */</p>
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<div>[[Image:SNAFUYouSunkMyBattleshipYouAsshole!.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"You sunk my battleship, you ''asshole''!]]<br />
Makes me laugh every time XD<br />
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==Next page to be 'nuked' and more?==<br />
<br />
I've noticed a lot of Delete notices on pages such as Weaponology and Future Weapons as of late. Now I know there is a kind-of unspoken rule about 'documentary' pages not being allowed, but, I don't know, I'm wondering is this is getting a bit much.. At the very least, I'm worried that it's something that will inevitably concern several additional, and arguably very popular pages. One of which being this one - Since this is a sort of documentary show (As well as ''Lock 'n Load''), will it get slated for deletion as well? I have to say I'm finding that possibility a bit disconcerting; Of course I like this page, but it's also a bit disconcerting on a general level, especially given there's no specific mention or even allusion of non-allowance of documentary pages on the RS&P page. Though that is probably just an oversight, it still should be addressed on the rules page itself, since the template regards the page being against the rules when in fact, the pages are conforming to the RS&P as it's presently stated. That aside, what will this mean in the future for this page and others like it? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:25, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:While it has been decided that documentaries should not be allowed on IMFDB an exception was made for Mail Call because alot of work was put into it and it was created before the decision was made. Basically it has been grandfathered in. A notice about that should probably be put on the page. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 18:38, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
That seems iffy to me. I don't think any pages should be slated for deletion until the Rules and Standards are changed to reflect this rule (which, by the way, we don't know actually exists- we only have your word that it does).<br />
<br />
::- AdAstra is an admin, and other admins and older members have stated here and there that documentaries aren't allowed (Again, it indeed isn't on the RS&P page, but that's an oversight and one that seems will be only temporary). Anyway, it is for good reason - I understand myself about the documentary thing, because it would encompass a vastly insane number of TV shows (As in, more than the site could probably even handle), but I was just a bit perturbed by how many notices I've seen on pages today. Of course part of me would request an exception for pages like 'Future Weapons' as they deal almost specifically on firearms themselves, but they themselves are massive pages whit loads of weapons in various configurations and again, it may be a bit much. Plus such a exception would include shows like 'Tales Of The Gun', 'Guns of the World' and numerous other shows, and again we've kind arrived at the same problem (Plus many of those shows are VERY similar anyway). A grandfather clause I can understand though... However I'm sure Lock 'N Load was made quite recently, so will it get the ax? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:43, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm aware AdAstra is an admin, but like you, it seems like a huge number of pages are slated to get the ax and I'd simply like to know the standards that are going to apply to the "grandfather clause," and how it will be fairly decided what pages get grandfathered in and which don't.<br />
<br />
==...==<br />
<br />
I'm not exactly a regular viewer, but I've watched this show enough to know that you'll be middle-aged by the time you finished documenting all of the weapons in it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Well I already have two seasons and SNAFU done. It will take maybe a month or two, but the other seasons can also be completed. Plus, once I'm done, it will be litterally impossible to make a page with more guns. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
::This page is going to be ridiculously huge once every season is added. Should I divide the page into seasons, like have Seasons 1 & 2 on one page, 3 & 4 on the next, etc?<br />
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==The King of IMFB==<br />
Mail Call is at 98 guns and counting. And I still have 6 more seasons to add eventually! The Unit cowers in fear. A new king rules the site. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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:It's a history channel show about guns. What do you expect? I've seen most of the episodes but I didn't bother screen capping them because it's more like an info show about guns with R. Lee Ermey. You don't need to know what guns they use because the show is all about tell you [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Personally, I still don't understand why you guys are competing to have the longest gun pages on IMFDB. I just don't get why this excites people so much. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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:Cause we can. It's something to encourage the making of pages. A sense of pride that you made a page, cap all the guns and it looks good in your eyes. And I'm seeing some repeats in the page. We don't need to know in the second season they used the M1 Garand again. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
::It is the easiest organization. Plus, if we see it again, like how we see Gunny shoot it in different episodes, we see it much better, it helps document it better (Think of it like each season is a new page, I figured this was the easiest way to document such a huge show). And it doesn't tell you every single gun on the show. 70% of the guns I capped from this show I had to know from my own knowledge. I don't mean to offend you Ex, but after so much hard work (and very little sleep), I just want my bragging rights. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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Being someone without history channel, I like to think I'm showing all the people like me the guns of the show. Once I get the rest of the Seasons on here, I'm going to love doing the Knob Creek episode. I reccomend you all watch the video on youtube, it is incredible. And since Gunny doesn't tell us every gun we see, it will aid the viewer greatly. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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:Look, I don't really think repeating a gun is better orginazation, it's just repetition and counting a repeat on the overal of how many guns is kinda cheating. Yoy claim this page has 98 guns, but I've counted 5 of them repeat at least once, the M16A1 is up there 3 times. How hard is it to compact all the kinds of caps of the same gun under one section instead of 3? You are entitled to brag, and it's a very nice and big page you got here. I just think you over did it with the repeats. It's like if I started to cap repeats of guns from every season of The Unit and start a new section for that repeated gun, I'd be all day on my page doing that. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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For anyone who is interested, the first 5 seasons of Mail Call are available on Hulu. 61 full episodes. --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 06:47, 26 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==GM45==<br />
I'd hate to say this, but you're quite an asshole. On here your talking down Marines because they have their fingers on the triggers. You have to remember, these are the guys who have pleged their lives towards the defending and sustainment of our lives. They are also training to fight in a war that has claimed thousands of lives, three of which were very close friends of mine. Again, i apologise, but please edit the rude remarks off the page. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
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He's usually talking about actors, though, isn't he?<br />
:Not on this page [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
::I guarantee you I had no intention of offending anyone. I can remove the comment on the M203 section about the guy with his finger on the trigger, but I didn't mean to say it to insult him or any Marines, I guess I was just noting a recruit slip up (not a big deal, it can go). I don't think it merits me being considered an asshole, but I'll change it for the sake of the guys with theirs lives on the line every day. Let me know if there are any other assholish comments I should remove ;) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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== Few Points ==<br />
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-The section with the M1903 Mk.I Springfield, where US troops are seen using them, I very much doubt are Mk.Is. Without seeing the cutout for the Pederson device it's impossible to be 100% sure, but Mk.Is were never actually issued during WW1. It and the Pederson device were intended to be used in the planned offensives of spring 1919, by the time the war ended they hadn't made nearly enough to issue.<br />
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- The Colt New Service seen in a 101st Airborne Reenactor's shoulder holster is a Smith & Wesson Victory. You can tell by the grips, the size of the gun and the style of the holster. Kinda farby for a 101st reenactor, the Victorys were mostly issued to Navy and USMC troops in the Pacific.<br />
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-I very much doubt those are British troops with the M1914 Hotchkiss, while the British Army did use a Hotchkiss gun, it was the M1909 Portative model. I suspect they're mostly likely Americans, or possibly Belgians.<br />
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-The Hawkins Plains Rifle is not a modern weapon, it was introduced in the 1850s by the Hawkins brothers as the first commercial rifle intended for hunting western game. It was extremely popular at the time. It's become such a mainstay of modern hunters for the same reason it was popular back then - it's light, handy and has a big enough calibre for western game, and also because muzzle loader hunting became popular about the same time Jeremiah Johnson came out, where Robert Redford prominently used a Hawkins.<br />
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-Nyles<br />
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== M1-C or M1-D ==<br />
I noticed that if you look at the barrel of M1-c it doesn't have the widened barrel that M1-c has. this leads me to belive that it is a M1-D not an M1-c. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:09, 8 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
:The "widened barrel" is a clip-on flash supressor, it comes off and was used with both models.</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Mail_Call&diff=339589Talk:Mail Call2010-10-09T18:43:04Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Next page to be 'nuked' and more? */</p>
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<div>[[Image:SNAFUYouSunkMyBattleshipYouAsshole!.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"You sunk my battleship, you ''asshole''!]]<br />
Makes me laugh every time XD<br />
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==Next page to be 'nuked' and more?==<br />
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I've noticed a lot of Delete notices on pages such as Weaponology and Future Weapons as of late. Now I know there is a kind-of unspoken rule about 'documentary' pages not being allowed, but, I don't know, I'm wondering is this is getting a bit much.. At the very least, I'm worried that it's something that will inevitably concern several additional, and arguably very popular pages. One of which being this one - Since this is a sort of documentary show (As well as ''Lock 'n Load''), will it get slated for deletion as well? I have to say I'm finding that possibility a bit disconcerting; Of course I like this page, but it's also a bit disconcerting on a general level, especially given there's no specific mention or even allusion of non-allowance of documentary pages on the RS&P page. Though that is probably just an oversight, it still should be addressed on the rules page itself, since the template regards the page being against the rules when in fact, the pages are conforming to the RS&P as it's presently stated. That aside, what will this mean in the future for this page and others like it? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:25, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:While it has been decided that documentaries should not be allowed on IMFDB an exception was made for Mail Call because alot of work was put into it and it was created before the decision was made. Basically it has been grandfathered in. A notice about that should probably be put on the page. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 18:38, 9 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
That seems iffy to me. I don't think any pages should be slated for deletion until the Rules and Standards are changed to reflect this rule (which, by the way, we don't know actually exists- we only have your word that it does).<br />
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==...==<br />
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I'm not exactly a regular viewer, but I've watched this show enough to know that you'll be middle-aged by the time you finished documenting all of the weapons in it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 04:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Well I already have two seasons and SNAFU done. It will take maybe a month or two, but the other seasons can also be completed. Plus, once I'm done, it will be litterally impossible to make a page with more guns. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
::This page is going to be ridiculously huge once every season is added. Should I divide the page into seasons, like have Seasons 1 & 2 on one page, 3 & 4 on the next, etc?<br />
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==The King of IMFB==<br />
Mail Call is at 98 guns and counting. And I still have 6 more seasons to add eventually! The Unit cowers in fear. A new king rules the site. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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:It's a history channel show about guns. What do you expect? I've seen most of the episodes but I didn't bother screen capping them because it's more like an info show about guns with R. Lee Ermey. You don't need to know what guns they use because the show is all about tell you [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Personally, I still don't understand why you guys are competing to have the longest gun pages on IMFDB. I just don't get why this excites people so much. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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:Cause we can. It's something to encourage the making of pages. A sense of pride that you made a page, cap all the guns and it looks good in your eyes. And I'm seeing some repeats in the page. We don't need to know in the second season they used the M1 Garand again. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
::It is the easiest organization. Plus, if we see it again, like how we see Gunny shoot it in different episodes, we see it much better, it helps document it better (Think of it like each season is a new page, I figured this was the easiest way to document such a huge show). And it doesn't tell you every single gun on the show. 70% of the guns I capped from this show I had to know from my own knowledge. I don't mean to offend you Ex, but after so much hard work (and very little sleep), I just want my bragging rights. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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Being someone without history channel, I like to think I'm showing all the people like me the guns of the show. Once I get the rest of the Seasons on here, I'm going to love doing the Knob Creek episode. I reccomend you all watch the video on youtube, it is incredible. And since Gunny doesn't tell us every gun we see, it will aid the viewer greatly. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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:Look, I don't really think repeating a gun is better orginazation, it's just repetition and counting a repeat on the overal of how many guns is kinda cheating. Yoy claim this page has 98 guns, but I've counted 5 of them repeat at least once, the M16A1 is up there 3 times. How hard is it to compact all the kinds of caps of the same gun under one section instead of 3? You are entitled to brag, and it's a very nice and big page you got here. I just think you over did it with the repeats. It's like if I started to cap repeats of guns from every season of The Unit and start a new section for that repeated gun, I'd be all day on my page doing that. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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For anyone who is interested, the first 5 seasons of Mail Call are available on Hulu. 61 full episodes. --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 06:47, 26 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==GM45==<br />
I'd hate to say this, but you're quite an asshole. On here your talking down Marines because they have their fingers on the triggers. You have to remember, these are the guys who have pleged their lives towards the defending and sustainment of our lives. They are also training to fight in a war that has claimed thousands of lives, three of which were very close friends of mine. Again, i apologise, but please edit the rude remarks off the page. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
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He's usually talking about actors, though, isn't he?<br />
:Not on this page [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
::I guarantee you I had no intention of offending anyone. I can remove the comment on the M203 section about the guy with his finger on the trigger, but I didn't mean to say it to insult him or any Marines, I guess I was just noting a recruit slip up (not a big deal, it can go). I don't think it merits me being considered an asshole, but I'll change it for the sake of the guys with theirs lives on the line every day. Let me know if there are any other assholish comments I should remove ;) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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== Few Points ==<br />
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-The section with the M1903 Mk.I Springfield, where US troops are seen using them, I very much doubt are Mk.Is. Without seeing the cutout for the Pederson device it's impossible to be 100% sure, but Mk.Is were never actually issued during WW1. It and the Pederson device were intended to be used in the planned offensives of spring 1919, by the time the war ended they hadn't made nearly enough to issue.<br />
<br />
- The Colt New Service seen in a 101st Airborne Reenactor's shoulder holster is a Smith & Wesson Victory. You can tell by the grips, the size of the gun and the style of the holster. Kinda farby for a 101st reenactor, the Victorys were mostly issued to Navy and USMC troops in the Pacific.<br />
<br />
-I very much doubt those are British troops with the M1914 Hotchkiss, while the British Army did use a Hotchkiss gun, it was the M1909 Portative model. I suspect they're mostly likely Americans, or possibly Belgians.<br />
<br />
-The Hawkins Plains Rifle is not a modern weapon, it was introduced in the 1850s by the Hawkins brothers as the first commercial rifle intended for hunting western game. It was extremely popular at the time. It's become such a mainstay of modern hunters for the same reason it was popular back then - it's light, handy and has a big enough calibre for western game, and also because muzzle loader hunting became popular about the same time Jeremiah Johnson came out, where Robert Redford prominently used a Hawkins.<br />
<br />
-Nyles<br />
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== M1-C or M1-D ==<br />
I noticed that if you look at the barrel of M1-c it doesn't have the widened barrel that M1-c has. this leads me to belive that it is a M1-D not an M1-c. [[User:Drjuki|Drjuki]] 14:09, 8 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
:The "widened barrel" is a clip-on flash supressor, it comes off and was used with both models.</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=339585Talk:Main Page2010-10-09T18:37:01Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>==M*A*S*H*==<br />
Why is there no page for M*A*S*H? i love that show! i don't own any of it though, if somebody made it i would happily help edit! [[User:SargeOverkill]]<br />
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==IMFDB = Internet Movie Firearms Data Base, right?==<br />
That's an assumption from the obvious subject of this Wiki. Don't you think the full name should appear on the Main Page? I don't see it anywhere! Fine Wiki you've got going here. [[Special:Contributions/68.199.188.123|68.199.188.123]] 05:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:You are right! We should have the title INTERNET MOVIE FIREARMS DATA BASE somewhere boldly on the main page. I can EDIT the page, but it has a lot of wiki code on it and I don't want to mess anything up. Can someone else with access (and more wiki code experience) do this change? Can Bunni do this change? It seems pretty obvious and I can't believe we didn't catch it until now. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 15:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Oh, and another question==<br />
Just watched very interesting commercial. Directed by [[Sam Raimi]] it's actually spoofing [[Desperado]]. There are guns, including [[Remington 1866 Derringer]], one of my personal favoties, i can recognize it everywhere. There's also [[John Saxon]] here. Can i do a page about this commercial? Also, if more global, can commercials and music videos be here, as they also media, like video games and movies. --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 15:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know about that. That's getting too much out of scope, I think. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 16:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::NO Commercials, NO Music Videos. There are tons of commercials that play only in Europe or Asia and we can't verify any of that info here. For one thing, you can't BUY or rent the DVDs of television commercials and (the vast majority of) Music videos to screencap them, or more importantly, confirm the veracity of said pages. Yes, chances are you can find a (usually low rez version) on the Internet, but really, do people wonder about the guns in either of those types of visual media? If we include ALL visual media, then we would be forced to accept news broadcasts, documentaries, industrial or training videos, etc. etc. and veer farther from the central theme of being the MOVIE firearms database. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 06:08, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::: You wrong actually - there are tons of DVD and festivals, that show commercials. And you can verify them via youtube Though, never mind. But can i do the thing on [[Sam Raimi]] page as a bonus like "Other Works" on IMDB? --[[User:Kloga|Kloga]] 09:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::No YOU'RE WRONG, Kloga. You insist on adding things that are (a) unnecessary and (b) Stupid. I'm on the verge of banning just because you keep on pushing it and pushing when we say NO to your various ideas. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:12, 6 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- Commercials? Music videos? Are you joking? Man, there are literally zillions of commercials that have been made in the world, and I'm sure a healthy percentage of them have gun usage. There have also been loads upon loads of music videos, with a much higher percentage of them having firearms in them. All of which would make for a rather ugly number of additional pages. You're talking about increasing this site in size and organization by at least two or three-fold, if not far more. Be realistic. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 17:57, 6 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Request: High Heels & Low Lifes==<br />
While kinda chick-flick-ish, it's still a highly entertaining movie.. and has some really nice looking firearms. There is a scene where one of the main characters, Mason, is standing in the doorway of a darkened apartment, turns to face (three quarters) the camera and pulls out a gun. I have no idea what kind of firearm this is but it looks really awesome.. and if anyone can identify it would be much appreciated!<br />
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==Jacked pictures==<br />
The following are pictures taken from my website. The first one is edited, but it's still my picture. The first version still has my copyright notice on it, as does the second picture. [[Image:M1891.jpg]] and [[Image:M39.jpg]] Please remove all versions of both these pictures from the database. I'm not very familiar with wikis or I'd do it myself. --[[User:7.62x54r.net|7.62x54r.net]] 23:36, 28 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==English Scripts==<br />
To unregistered users. use English script when writing on these pages. Most of us are American and don't run asian word scripts on our computers. Thus Asian letters are unreadable to us and look like gibberish. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:57, 16 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Screencap Legality ==<br />
How do you know whether uploading screencaps violates copyright or not?<br />
: Pretty sure it is okay because no one has hunted us down to sue us, but anyway, as long as you don't claim it is your work and credit only yourself, you should be okay. -GM<br />
:: One thing I would advise you to do is not upload screenshots from pirated copies of movies that haven't been released yet on DVD and Blu Ray. I imagine that if someone working for one of the studios saw that, they would be very upset. They'll know the shots came from a bootleg if the movie isn't out on DVD yet, and they might just throw the book at us. Avoid this at all costs. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Merging articles ==<br />
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Is it possible to merge an article with a pre-existing article? Every time I try to do this with particular types of guns, I get an error message that says, "A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name." For instance, if I wanted to move the HK91 article under the H&K G3 article (since the HK91 is a G3 variant, I don't think it needs its own page), I can't do this.<br />
::To merge an article, take the article, copy all the information and put it on the new page in the format you wish to make. You can also do this if you wish to change the name of a page. Take the page that you copied everything from and delete everything on that page. Write on that page this exactly(minus quotes):<br />
"#REDIRECT (then use double [ ] brackets) and write the name of the page EXACTLY AS IT IS. Screw up the name and it'll redirect no where.<br />
:Example<br />
# "#Redirect [[[[M16 rifle series]]]]"<br />
Note:How I made it look finished is what it should look like. Not what it looks like when in the editing of the page. Hope I helped. -[[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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This is probably rhetorical, but is this the same method of redirecting to a page, i.e. [[QBZ-95]] redirecting to [[Norinco QB rifle series]]? I noticed that a page for the QBZ-95 was deleted because there already was one (Norinco QB rifle series), but whenever you type in QBZ-95, there are absolutely no results for it, and that could be confusing for your everyday user..[[User:Run its a T-55|Run its a T-55]] 22:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Let there be backups! ==<br />
Ok, I've installed ruby on our dedicated server, signed up for Amazon's s3 storage service, and customized a ruby backup script to automatically backup the database and all image files at 4am pst and upload them to our s3 folder. The process really bogs down the box for a good 10 minutes, so I'm thinking once every 24 hours is fine, but I may go to once every 12 hours eventually... Thanks for putting up with the ups and downs during this time of transition.<br />
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Best,<br />
Chris<br />
[[User:Bunni|bunni]] 05:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC) <br />
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Welcome to our new server! This is the first of many steps I am taking to ensure we never lose data again. The site used to be hosted on shared hosting overseas - we now have a dedicated server housed in a co-location in San Jose, CA. Dedicated servers don't come cheap, but your time, effort, and contributions are now my number one priority. <br />
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I'm still transferring the images that have been uploaded over the last couple days, don't worry they're not lost!<br />
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==The McUzi==<br />
It wasn’t until I read the ‘Raw Deal’ article on the “fake Uzi” that I realized Hollywood was dressing MAC-10s up as Uzis.<br />
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In ‘The Dog of War’ the mercenaries are supposed to be using Uzis. However some are using MAC-10s and some are using MACs dressed up as Uzis. The actors seem to change weapons randomly. For example, as the climactic battle begins Tom Berenger is using a real Uzi and Christopher Walken is using a silenced Uzi. However in the final minutes both are using McUzis. This is made painfully clear as Walken holds the gun to his face when reloading.<br />
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There are real MAC Uzi hybrids. These are civilian versions of the Uzi with a .45 barrel, bolt and a MAC-10 magazine well to accept the universal Grease Gun magazines.<br />
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The Hollywood guns are merely MACs with Uzi parts added on. <br />
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I would see to real reason to make a gun like this accept that the filmmakers wanted to use Uzis but ran out. Much like ‘Planet of the Apes’ when the studio ran out of ape costumes they simply used paper mask. If you look closely at the audience of Heston’s mock trial.<br />
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I captured some great stills to add to ‘The Dogs of War’ article.````<br />
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== moved from main page ==<br />
We're on the new server and still working the bugs out - email me at cserrano@gmail.com if you're having any issues editing or logging in. The backup file is from early September 30, so most of yesterdays edits are missing - sorry GunMaster45 I'm working on it! [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 17:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC) ''GunMaster45 I've recovered the latest version of the [[Street Kings]] page - anything else we're missing?'' [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 21:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
: I had the R9 pistol which I had uploaed today but I redid it. Will the pictures remain fuzzy and pixelated or is that just temporary? (Hopefully) -GM<br />
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If you find something missing from the old server you can still access it here 66.79.167.132/~imfdb/index.php?title=Main_Page [[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 20:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I had just uploaded some pics of the AR18 from Terminator and the Street Sweeper from Total Recall. Can you get them back, or should I upload them again? Also, MPM2008 uploaded some new gun pics, and I don't think he'll appreciate their loss.<br />
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== How do i "screencap" a movie? ==<br />
How do i screencap a movie?:<br />[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 12:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Ah, OK then. We all have our own methods of doing so. Personally, I play my DVDs using VLC Media Player, which has a Snapshot feature which lets you take screenshots when paused, and then it saves them automatically as JPEGs or PNGs to a designated folder of your choosing. However, that's ONLY when I'm screencapping movies I own on DVD. I also rent and download movies using iTunes which I might screencap for IMFDB pages, and I can't play those with VLC. In those cases, I just hit the "Print Screen" key, paste the image into MSPaint, and then crop away the iTunes browser so that only the movie image remains. Then I save them to my HD in a designated folder. Once I've acquired enough screenshots for a movie, I use "Upload file" to put them on IMFDB so that I can use them for pages I edit. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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::First and most importantly, you need a DVD drive in your computer to watch the movie. I watch mine on Windows WinDVD system, which has a built in "screencap" button by pressing P, which saves them all in WinDVD file. I take those files from the folder, which are all saved under BMPs and re-save them as JPGs using Corel Paintshop. If they are widescreen, I use crop to cut them out. I then upload them to the site and post them. Now that I've read MT2008's method for iTunes, I can screencap [[Shoot 'Em Up]] which wasn't compatable with my WinDVD system, but worked on my other DVD player which had no screencap button. Hooray! -[[User:Gunmaster45|GM45]]<br />
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And also you can use the program I use which is CyberLink PowerDVD which also has a built in Screenshot button. First the screenshots start out as BMPs, but then I use Irfan View to save them as JPGs to a different folder. And if they are widescreen, I use Windows Photo Gallery to crop off the black bars. You should also check out Gunmaster's and MT2008's methods because they might be better.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 18:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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What about taking pictures on a digital camera and uploading them to your PC? Does anyone know if it works?[[User:TheDon152|TheDon152]] 21:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Thats a very myspace101 question but it's simple there's about 4 ways to do it but I've only done 2. (This demonstration is only done on Windows XP)<br />
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:::Option 1: If your camera has a memory slot like a (Compact Flash, Secure Digital, Mini SD, Micro SD, Memory Stick Pro, MultiMediaCard (MMC), SmartMedia, xD-Picture Card (xD), etc.) you could remove the card from the camera. Step 1: Once you removed the card from the camera if you have a compatible USB card reader you can plug the card reader into the computer and plug the card into the card reader. The most common great quality card reader brands are (Sandisk, Memorex, PNY, and Lexar) for approximately $20.00 at Wal-Mart. <br />
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:::Option 2: If your camera has a connection for a USB cable. Step 1: You can easily find and plug the USB adaptor into the camera and plug the other end of the plug into you computer. <br />
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:::The upload process is easy (tested on Windows XP) your computer bottom right task tray will show a "Found New Hardware" icon and be gone that means your camera is connected. Step 2: A pop up will show on how you want to view your images click on "view with Windows" if this pop up does not pop up you will have to manually follow step 3 if not skip on to step 4. Step 3: You may click "My Computer" or "My Documents" most likely on the desktop or start menu on your computer you will go to "My Computer" and find a folder that says a brand of your memory card or camera. Step: 4 Click on the folder and look through all folders and once you find it you may highlight the folder or the selected images on your computer mouse right click and press copy (or press Ctrl+C on your keyboard) and paste the images where ever you want in your computer.<br />
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== How do i screencap from a television? ==<br />
Like if i wanted to screencap some video games?<br /><br />
[[User:Sick-vice|Sick-vice]] 22:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:You probably need some high tech gizmo. Usually people who screencap TV use DVR and record TV on DVD, then upload them on the computer. I've never done it but it may work for VGs. -GM45<br />
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::Personally, I'd recommend maybe trying an emulator to play said game on your computer (assuming your PC is fast enough to handle the software and game). I've been thinking of redoing the ''[[Goldeneye 007]]'' page for a while using Project64 (which has a screencap feature), because I can play that game at high resolution even on my laptop.<br />
:::I recommend softwares like Fraps (only for PC games). It can take images with a click of a button and you can choose what to save it as in the Pictures section. The disadvantage is that you can't record gameplay in computer games and you must pay about $99 (not sure, but around there and you can also pay little by little per month or week to use) it to do unlimited video capturing. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Call of Duty 4 pictures==<br />
I've got good pictures of guns for Call of Duty 4, but i don't know how to upload them, anyone knows how to email me at r1c0ch37@gmail.com<br />
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:All you have to do is go to "Upload file" under the "Toolbox" section in the left-hand column. -MT2008<br />
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==Protection Log?==<br />
Is something wrong with the site. Why are all the pics being fixed with "([edit=sysop:move=sysop])" for a protection log? I know little about that technical stuff, is someone removing the pics or are they just being protected from over-uploading crappy pics over? -GM<br />
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:They're being protected. Some asshole came in earlier today and kept trying to replace MoviePropMaster's pics with stock 'Net images, and kept doing it even after he was asked to stop. MPM's pics are our pride 'n joy...Alienqueen and I agreed not to let them get screwed with anymore. -MT2008<br />
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Yeah, that's reason why I did it. I just wish I had my ability to block users back, and then I wouldn't have had to set up protections. I told that guy not to upload over MPM2008's images and multiple times and he didn't listen.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:20, 23 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Flannigan==<br />
on the Snatch page- I know it already says that the .50 is a 357, but also another way of finding out is that .50s fire 7 rounds where as in the film Bullet tooth tony fires 8 in every mag. so it must be a 357.<br />
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Retrieved from "http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Snatch"<br />
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==Deleting old files==<br />
As y'all can probably tell, I have been on a huge deleting spree recently. I've been getting rid of files that weren't being used for whatever reason or another. Some of them were gun images that have since been replaced by MoviePropMaster's images, others were old screencaps that have been replaced by newer ones (like all of my old ''[[Hard Boiled]]'' shots, which have since been replaced by GunMaster's), and some were those images of weird experimental guns uploaded by Cutaway that don't appear in any movie and thus have no purpose on this site.<br />
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I realize, of course, that this by itself won't relieve the strain on the servers; it's inevitable as this site grows. But it seems like a worthwhile thing to do. If anyone of the Admins are interested in helping out, please go to "Special Pages" and click on "Unused Files" (at the top). If you see something that might be worth keeping (i.e. Choi's screencaps from ''[[The Killer]]'' which haven't been put on the page yet), leave it alone, but if you see gun images that obviously have no use or screencaps that you know have been replaced...ditch 'em.<br />
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Thanks. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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Good Work, MT2008. I'm sure it'll give us more server space, I'll be sure to delete some myself. One question, if we get rid of the old files, will this site load faster?--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:13, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Beats me, but I'd have to guess...not ''noticeably'' faster. It will at least give us more space for uploading newer files. However, IMFDB is constantly growing, so it's inevitable we'll reach our limits eventually. You'd have to ask Bunni when that will be. Anyway, I'm off to the pub now. I will be back later to continue. [[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:20, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Go right ahead, you deserve a break. I'll get rid of as many as I can, I'm also seeing alot of screenshots nobody bothered to use, it makes me wonder why people upload them if they're just going to sit there for a year and gather dust. And, I'm also going to screencap [[Four Brothers]] and [[Assault on Precinct 13 (2005)]] soon, so you can look forward to seeing them completed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 02:27, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Fictional Firearms==<br />
I propose that we denote pages for 'fictional' firearms with parentheses "like Non Guns" so that they are in a different grouping than real guns. GM has made pages for the fantasy weapons of Hellboy II and that made me think about custom pages for the Morita Rifle (Starship troopers) or the M590 (Space:Above and Beyond) or the Blade Runner Pistol or any of the Star Wars guns (versus other types of Sci fi weapons, these should be guns). Even though THESE fictional guns are based on real guns, they can have their own pages with links to the original weapons page. Regardless, I think that guns that aren't real should be separated, lest they confuse users. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.<br />
[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:I agree. I was kinda turned off when I saw the Aliens Resurrection page. None of those guns were based off of real firearms or even guns dressed up to look like futuristic guns.<br />
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::Well I get the point of making a post about fictional guns that were built around real guns like the Morita rifle and the Pulse Rifle of Aliens, but guns that were built from scratch like the Samaritian. Would it really need a page here or is that just for the fanboys who like the gun? It's like a page for the cars used in the Punisher movie or people who like to include knives, swords, and even bows & arrow in pages, including me. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:::The advantage is that the page can inform an interested user that the prop was NOT based on any real firearm, information that is just as important as informing 'what real firearm' was used in a prop weapon. What I don't like are obvious NON crafted weapons .... like [[Molotov cocktails]] ... wtf? That's an improvised weapon, like a sharp stick or a brick.[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::What about bows & arrows, or crossbows? I put them in my pages cause when they are used, they an impression and deserve a mention evne though they aren't firearms. Also what about knives and swords? I've seen some of those as well, but I think the knife of Rambo should stay because...well, it's the knife of Rambo. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== My gripe on Empty pages ==<br />
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I've been seeing a lot of new pages lately. The problem is that they are a blank! Nothing, not even a list of guns. What the fuck? I mean, a list of guns with no photos is ok, but just a fucking blank page? Do the people that do that expect someone else to do the work for them? They mind as well type down, "someone list the guns and put up pics for me cause I am lazy as fuck to even give a list." At least writing that down says something. Not just a blank.<br />
:We all understand your pain Exy, we need a more efficient way to let the anonymous users know that if you make a page, you got to do the work. You gotta watch the language though, people will see it and think it is okay to do often. We all do it, but we don't want it done for no reason. Just ignore the empty pages, let them do the work eventually. If they don't, delete the pages. Half of them are movies I've never heard of anyway. Keep an eye out for [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]], I'll have them done this week. -GM<br />
::What about that new member who create thirty or so new movie pages (some of which barely had one gun in them) and then never filled out any of those pages? I'm tempted to give people a little time, but for movies in which I question their relevance to this site, I'm also tempted to get rid of blank pages and let people create them when they're ready to populate them with information. MPM<br />
:::Sorry for the foul launguage. I'm used to talking on forums where the F word is acceptable when you are pissed. Swears is culturally part of any language and sometimes it slips and I like to think we're all adults here that do use swears in real life when it is required. Anyway. Nice job on the [[Tropic Thunder]] and [[The Shawshank Redemption]] pages. I've only done one movie that had ONE gun in it and it was [[The Forbidden Kingdom]] and even I did the work for it. I guess the anonymous users might also just be curious guys online and just hope we know what movie they are talking about, have it, and would take the time to tell them what guns are in it by doing the pages, but maybe on the main page, someone should put down rules of how to operate this site. I mean, I wanted to put a new qoute into the qoute section, but can't cause I don't know how to do it [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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=="jacked" summaries"==<br />
One thing that irks me is people 'cut and pasting' a plot summary completely from IMDB. This is not only against IMFDB rules, but if any mods from IMDB sees them, they can make an stink about it. I'm tempted to 'erase' any pirated summaries and put a note to the original writer ''"'''Write your own summary in your own words'''. It isn't too hard, even to re-arrange the sentences and replace some words to make it LOOK like you wrote it yourself. Just don't lift them word for word from another well known source. IMDB itself has a rule that you must write your own summaries and not lift them from other 3rd party sources. So does IMFDB.org. "'' Of course there are so many jacked firearm images here, this may be hypocritical. Which is why I'm working so hard to get IMFDB their own exclusive gun images. But it's one thing to upload an image of an impossible to get gun which no one has, versus taking the time to type a few sentences...<br />
:I agree. I did the same thing with my [[Black Lagoon]] page when I got here, but I took it off mainly because I didn't see the need for a summary at the beginning of the page that is THAT long winded. People are here for the guns and if they want to know what the movie or show is about, they just look it up. I don't know, I stopped writing summaries for movies and shows long ago. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I think we don´t need summaries.[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I disagree with those who think "we don't need no stinkin' summaries..." For those people who have NOT seen the movie a SHORT summaries are okay. I've put them on some of my pages, usually when I have something interesting to add. I do like them when someone puts a page for a movie so obscure that I have no idea what it's about (and I don't want to have to go hunting around the web to find out, capice?) I added summaries (and others did) for those REALLY OBSCURE East german B&W movies that are on the site. Who created those pages anyway? Like anyone's going to see Black and white German language communist era DDR movies .... oh well. I can always start creating pages for the cinema of 1930s Lithuania! hahahaha. But having no summary for SOME of the pages sucks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I found some summaries to stick out too much. Maybe a sentence or two to just give the jist, or a catch phrase like, but really I don't do summaries anymore. But I'll think about it for the anime ones simply cause some of them are harder to find or most people wouldn't have interests in them. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 23:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Leaving your sign==<br />
If you want people to know who you are when you write things on pages and discussion boards, put four ~ symbols after your message. Your user name and time/date are automatically shown. [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 20:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:See?<br />
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:: What he said. ;)<br />
::: I agree wholeheartedly ...<br />
::::Yes. Just yes. --Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Problems with formatting==<br />
Anyone notice that some of the wikipages don't show the spaces that we put between sections (so that the formats don't get all jacked up when we have photos on the right). <br />
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http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Benelli_M_Series_Super_90_Shotguns<br />
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I've been trying to fix the benelli shotgun page for a bit now, and every time I add spaces, it doesn't show up in the page. Is this a glitch?[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Should we have templates? ==<br />
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Like in Wikipedia?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 11:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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It WOULD make this site a bit more...colorful than the standard white background, but if it's too much work, then it's up to whoever really runs this place.<br />
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:In all honesty, what this site needs most of all is cross-referencing of some kind, so that if somebody enters the name of a gun in one page, it shows up on another. It's a downfall of Wikis in general, and this one in particular. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Views==<br />
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Is there a way how I could check how many people viewed may page like on the home page the top 5 articles says how many people have viewed are page. <br />
-[[User:Btracy1994|Btracy1994]] 01:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== How do i replace a image? ==<br />
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How do i replace a image?[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Updating ==<br />
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Can someone please update or add pictures to these listed pages: <br />
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*3000 miles to Graceland<br />
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*Blue streak<br />
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*The Mask<br />
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*Snatch<br />
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:The Mask and Snatch are on my to-do list. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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== music videos ==<br />
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should be included on the site...i want to know the guns used in protest the hero's video for blindfolds aside...if anyone knows, please share, or at least where i can find out<br />
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== main page movies ==<br />
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What exactly is the criteria for a film to be featured on the main page? I was thinking of submitting some (unless there are already enough as it is). - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]<br />
:Popular, critically aclaimed (but gun heavy I guess, something that wins 9 oscars but has three guns isn't a good idea), and it should have a decent amount of guns on it (like 15-20 seems about right).<br />
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== Too many screencaps!!! ==<br />
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I'm getting a bit frustrated w/the amount of screencaps we're loading up. Is there any way we can limit the number? The pages are becoming much too long & scrolling takes forever. I know Wikis are not democracies so a vote would be out of the question but can we all please stop indulging our screecap skills by putting ALL our favorite stills from these films up & just have about 2-3 images per firearm? [[User:Tommyt|Tommyt]] 20:14, 18 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:At least for the front page I have to agree - the loading is taking way too long. I'm going to disable the featured page for a while and see how it goes. I can't afford to upgrade the server at the moment to handle the huge load. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 03:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Can this be done on individual pages too? Take a look at the page for Shoot 'em Up for instance, seems like everyone just had to throw their favorite frame in there. Also, the Quick & the Dead is pretty bad too... Also, would it be bad in etiquette to go into pages & start cutting out images that are repetitive or unnecessary? [[User:Tommyt|Tommyt]] 18:47, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::Excuse the language but FUCK YOU. And if you start removing my screencaps I'll be sure to remove ''you'' from the site. (sorry about the outburst but it is very rude to blatantly bash my hard work and contributions to this site, and it pisses me off gravely) - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
::::No one was bashing the hard work or contributions. Don't confuse legitimate criticism with a personal attack, and your response back was a personal attack and beneath you, especially the fine responses you usually write (and the fact that you're a MOD now). I hope you eventually understand that I also mean no disrespect as well. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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GM's comment aside I'm all for detailed screencaps. Heck I'm going to be trying to collect a bunch for myself. Unfortunantly the interesting films I have are VHS. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 23:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:He's got a point though. I dont want to be rude, but when every single time the certain gun is shown, it doesnt really need a picture. 5 tops is ok. GM, you are very nortorious for 13-14 pictures of the same gun. i can understand showing cycling misfeeds/changes in guns, but on the Punisher page, you dont really need that many pictures of Castle shooting Spoon and Dante. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
::You shouldn't have to apologize. The members who seem to LOVE tons of screencaps take it personally, like you're attacking THEM, not the decision to display endless screenshots of guns. I think when they think about it, they may realize that no one is trying to be insulting. When I screencap, I edit the pictures. Sure I might have 14 shots, but I choose the best couple and cull the rest. I don't feel compelled to force everyone to look at every since solitary screenshot, just because I took the time to do them. Just like a writer or artist, you must have the maturity to cut out what is excess, even though at the time it sucks to cut out stuff you like. Looks like some of the new (i.e. young also) members are trying to outdo the record for ridiculous screencaps. [[We Were Soldiers]] is now a page that I no longer like to look at, now that I have to scroll down for ten minutes to see the next section. :( [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== how do i screencap == <br />
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i have many films, games exc that i want to screencap. please can someone tell me how to?<br />
:You need a DVD-rom drive on your computer. Play the movie on a DVD player with a screencapture function. The images will be saved to a folder. Cut off any widescreen or full screen bars and convert the image to a JPG so it can be placed here. You'll need a photo editor such as Corel Photoshop or even Paintshop. Then go to the Upload file section and upload them on the site. Copy the picture's linkage (will say something like "Image:name.jpg") then put the image in double brackets [[]] and paste the linkage. now you'd take this image and write it like this:<br />
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Look at some other pages to see this in use. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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You can actually screencap with any Windows computer, very easily. Just use the Print Screen button and paste it into whatever program you want; you can then crop out the interface and whatnot. You can also use Print Screen + Alt so that you only get what's inside the window instead of everything (I think PrtScn + Alt is what you want. <br />
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==Should this picture be on the M16 Page?==<br />
hahahaha. The CHAMPION of customization in the history of firearms! ..... <br />
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[[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Oh hell yea! that looks awesome! [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
::Looks like that GIF took a lot of work to make... Awesome though. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
:::That would be perfect for the M16 page, so definitely yes!--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 20:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Well where on the page should this be on? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 21:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Interesting enough I don't see this thing transform into an M16A1 or A2<br />
::M16A1 is dead and gone. the a2 series is the new and improved. [[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]]<br />
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Slow it down a touch and it's perfect! And to satisfy those who are sticklers about accuracy: split the animation into "A1" and "A2" animations (one for each M16 variant). <br />
EDIT: Isn't there a silencer for it? Counter-Strike says so...<br />
--Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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How awesome is that AR-15 builder, just love doing it for the hell of it.<br />
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== Grammar/Spelling == <br />
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- Hello gentlemen. First off I just want to start of by telling you guys how much I enjoy this site. Anyhow, I come visiting from IMCDb (Internet Movie Car Database). I'm an administrator over there and given my interest in weapons and the similarity between the two sites, I've taken an interest in visiting your site. However, I've noticed a problem that I wanted to bring up to your guys' attention. Often times there are grammar and spelling mistakes and I think that it is something that you guys can improve upon a bit more. I don't mean to sound like I'm criticizing or I'm calling anybody stupid or anything, but it's things like that that could make the site look cleaner and more appealing. And yes, I do understand that english may not be the first language for some of the posters here. My point is that I'm just giving some friendly advice from who I'd like to think of as someone from a "sister" site. Thanks gents...keep up the great work.<br />
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:: We have tons of contributors who aren't even old enough to shave yet. Does that tell you anything? GM45 once described it as a small group of Mods/ Super users fighting against the cresting tide of the ocean, or something to that effect. :) An apt metaphor. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::Hi, I am a fan of IMCDB myself (it was where I learned all about how M1 Abrams tanks in Hollywood are mocked-up Centurions). I do appreciate your concerns about grammar/spelling and agree with you that it needs to be addressed. However, being that (unlike IMCDB) we are a Wiki open for all to edit, it's somewhat inevitable that this will be an issue. I appreciate the fact that this is less of an issue with IMCDB due to the format of the site, and at times, I wish we could integrate elements of IMCDB into this site to standardize things a bit (I still get annoyed when I see people who call a Beretta 92F a "Berretta M92F" even though it says at the top of the page that this is not the correct spelling). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]]<br />
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::::Fellas, I greatly appreciate the response. I understand the situation with your site and we ourselves deal with some of the same issues, as far as having younger members whose grammar and knowledge isn't exactly ideal. But thanks a lot for the response. And as I said earlier, keep up the good work.<br />
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:::::Thanks. We also have foreign contributors who don't have that great of a grasp of English. We also have guys who just don't know how to spell. One of my buddies who is a combat vet, former 82nd Airborne, types like a two year old on his computer. I jokingly say that I have to create a special filter for Babelfish to decypher what he is typing! LOL. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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===Our own movie===<br />
I was thinkin'. We've got a lot of people on this site, a lot of them are very talented, we could probably make our own movie someday. I know a good script writer with an idea already mostly-formed, maybe imfdb should have a meet up and make a movie. We could probably all pool our resources and make an awesome one. Just a whimsical fantasy...-protoAuthor<br />
:A movie based on a website? What the fuck? That won't work. I am sorry but, that just won't work.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::No, I mean we all pitch together and make an action movie. Not based on the website, but the website has the people and resources. As in, a community effort. -protoAuthor<br />
:::That would be cool if only the movie we make is a cheesy action movie in the same vein as Commando, then we can do it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::hahahahaha, uh no. :) Some of us actually work in the movie industry and it's not easy to make a movie, even a crappy backyard effort one with a video camera bought from Walmart. You're right, it's a whimsical fantasy, but you need a TON of talented people who know what they are doing in ALL of the positions of a film production. Not just armorers but you need everyone, a good script, good actors, a good director, a good producer (which amazingly is really hard since the producer is supposed to be a manager, NOT someone who micro manages the work by everyone else), a good crew, skilled camera operators, good cameras, pro lighting gear and a good DP or cinematographer. Oh did I mention TONS of $$ (you could spend a fortune just feeding the crew and paying for insurance and permits - salaries not withstanding). Wait, you also need office staff, pre production staff and post production staff and facilities (digital capture, color correcting, editing, sound engineering and editing) and then where are you going to sell it? You need marketing, posters, ads, trailers, a website, the list goes on and on. No I'm not making fun of your comment. It was funny and just that, fantasizing, but I know you are just throwing this bit out there and are not serious. Because it's akin to someone saying "hey let's stage our own high orbit launch of a satellite, all we need is ....." :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm currently working on an amatuer backyard crap job now, and it is actually turning out quite well. We don't have tons of money but we can fund things like fake blood, spare t-shirts (to cover in fake blood), and blanks. As for lighting, so far everything has been working well for us. We actually have enough filmed now that I'm confident this will be a good movie. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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== Help with VLC ==<br />
I need help with my VLC Media Program. When i screencap movies the program screencaps like normal, but when i upload my images to IMFDB the images stay like this:<br />
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-252103Mk2.jpg|thumb|none|512px|Charlie Sheen in [[Platoon]]. <s>The Problem here is that even when the screencap is in 1200x configuration, the screencap is still away too small.</s> Fixed!]]<br />
:Can Anyone help me with this?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't have that problem, but I'm checking out the settings to see what might cause it. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::I imagine you've got this sorted by now, but it's because you missed the letter "p." It's "px" as in "pixel," not "x" as in "times." And that still won't make it larger than the image itself is. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 11:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Discussions on Articles==<br />
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I love this site, I have wasted many hours just browsing the wonderful collection of articles. My only qualm is some users feel that the article pages are also discussion pages to argue the validity of someone's addition. There is nothing that irks me more that when i am reading about a movie and then it becomes some kind of forum. I think this should be regulated to make the site more professional.<br />
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:We try to regulate it and throw those discussions on the discussion pages of articles but there are still some users that discuss on the articles.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:14, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::I agree, that has been a thorn in my side too. Nothing worse than to go to the trouble of creating a thorough, tidy-looking article only for people to clutter it up with chatter and arguements that should be saved for the article's talk page. that 'discussion' tab is up there for a reason, people! [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 21:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::I couldn't agree more, it turns me off when I'm going through a neat looking page, and then come across a bunch of comments and arguments. If we could just get into the habit of using the talk page for these arguments, then we'll be more obligated to use them more often.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 22:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== This video ==<br />
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Have any of you lazy sons-of-bitches seen this video:<br />
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It's fucking awesome let me tell you. And no, i'm not spamming links just watch the video. It's about us!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:That's been out for a while now; take a look at some of those old gun pics on there, like the long since replaced M16A1/M203 with the 20-round mag. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 22:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I know but i never seen it. It's really funny.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::Unfortunately some our members are a bit too thin skinned. This guy wasn't being insulting. He was intentionally obnoxious trying to be a 'showman'. Some guys "telling him to fuck off" in the comments makes us look a bit immature. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== How? ==<br />
how do i create my own page to say what my favourite weapons and movies are and what contributions i have made? please can someone tell me.<br />
:You have to register first and, contribute to this site. Bye!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
i'd hate to sound like an idiot but i've just done that (register and contribute) now what do i do?<br />
:On the upper right corner of your screen there is an panel with thing about your username. Press the one with your name on it and write on it. Also, when editing, there will be an link with "Editing Help". Click it and read it. Now you know how to edit. Yay! Also, put four ~ after any of your messages. That way, you will sign you messages and people will know who you are.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Movie Article Request "Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow" ==<br />
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There are many guns, but I request this mostly for a big mistake in it. When Sky Captain is running on a log with a Colt 1911 (silver) in hand and drops it, the computer rendering shows a revolver of some sort. It is probably the same as the one in the scene where Sky Captain is at his desk and the reporter comes in, and he stops her at gunpoint.<br />
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Sorry if I was vague, but my memory's a little fuzzy.<br />
--Maxaxle, [[Special:Contributions/99.50.201.235|99.50.201.235]] 23:46, 3 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:I actually own that film and I ''could'' screencap it ,but I effing hate that movie. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:34, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it really that bad? It looked like it sucked, but I wasn't sure-[[User:S&amp;Wshooter|S&amp;Wshooter]] 21:49, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::It's just really corny. It tries to capture the feel of movies made in the 20's or whenever the hell the movie's suppose to take place, but it is just super, super, super, corny. If it was intentionally corny, it would be funny. But it's not and that's what makes it bad. The only redeeming part is that Angelina Jolie is in it. Unfortunately, she's always in a uniform and has a patch over one eye, so it's not really worth it in the end. The dues ex Machina near the end doesn't help, or the fact that the female lead is the type of person that would push a button for no other reason then it says "DO NOT PUSH". --[[User:Gunkatas|Gunkatas]] 21:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== How do I ==<br />
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get pictures on a page? not screencaps but an actor holding a gun in a movie?<br />
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== Fixed Width 1000px ==<br />
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I'm working on making the front page a fixed width design... let me play with the ads and featured articles for a couple days. [[User:Bunni|bunni]] 22:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Created a new template for featured articles, you can play with it at [[Template:FeaturedArticle]]. I've currently only added 3:10 to Yuma and Live Free or Die Hard - feel free to add more. [[User:Bunni|bunni]]<br />
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==Random screencap==<br />
Is there any chance of bringing this feature back? I liked looking at the different screenshots. [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 11 Oct 2009<br />
::Do you prefer having the site crash more often than not, for this little inconvenience?<br />
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==Still having problems with the SITE==<br />
I am getting 503 error messages all the time. 80% of the time I can't get it. Until this is fixed, I am taking a break because I waste HOURS trying to rewrite edits and multiple attempts to upload images. Don't know what we can do about it. Is there something we can do, like have a one week moratorium on any members uploading anything to see if all the hits from views is what is causing it? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I emailed Bunni about this a few days ago, so I hope he'll get it fixed.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 21:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Forum problems - can't log in==<br />
Which is why I am posting this here. I can't get into the Forum. When I type in (CORRECTLY) my user name and password, I get this error message that I have ''used up ALL Of my five (5!) login attempts'' (WTF?). Just '''today''' when I tried to login in, the error message said '''''"You've used up six (6!) of your five (5) login attempts.''''' You cannot try again for another fifteen minutes. Again WTF? I tried ONCE and it didn't take and the system thought I had tried many times. Again, something is wrong with the servers. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, I'm getting that error also. My guess is that it is because someone is trying to hack our forum accounts; so that is probably why it says we have used up our login attempts. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 21:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== I need help with a Link problem ==<br />
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I started a State of Grace page, which shows up when entered in the search box, but when I went to add the info from the movie to the actors pages the link back to State of Grace is said to be deleted. Like when I went to the Sean Penn page and entered what pistol he used and entered State of Grace, when I click on State of Grace it brings to a page that says: <br />
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• 18:32, 15 April 2009 Gunmaster45 (Talk | contribs) deleted ''"State of Grace" (content before blanking was: 'This excellent movie starred Sean Penn, Ed Harris, and Gary Oldman. Penn, an undercover cop infiltrating the Irish mob in NYC carried a Smith 6906 in .9mm with a Ruger SP101 backup gun. Gary Oldman, a thug, carried ...')'' <br />
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Does this mean I need to copy and paste all the work I did into that deleted page? Searching for the movie from the search box will bring you to the page I created from scratch, but the link from the actors pages brings you to that notice of an old deleted page. Can anyone help? --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 03:31, 16 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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There was a small difference in titles between the link and the page you created. The link was State of Grace and the title of your page was State Of Grace, so that's why it didn't link. I made a redirect on the previously deleted page so it should work now.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 03:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Movies Page ==<br />
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I don't know if anyone has noticed but in the movies page King Kong (1933) is listed under B and there's no entry for it under K. Reason I'm saying this is because I guess only admins can edit category pages? because nothing pops up when I click edit.-[[User:Shooter2|Shooter2]]<br />
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::I fixed it. Someone put B&W in the same Category line as "movie". YOu put the categories in separate lines. WHen you put B&W in the same line, it thinks that you want the movie categorized in the "B" category [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:26, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Movies deletion ==<br />
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Could you please delete [[The Alamo (2004)]] since there is already is the title under ''[[Alamo (2004), The]]''? Thanks--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 03:48, 30 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
== Redirects ==<br />
Can someone please teach me how to create redirects?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Non Related Quotes==<br />
How does the quote "Come quietly or there will be...trouble. --[[RoboCop]]" relate to firearms? Should this quote be removed from the featured quote list or not?<br />
:I thought that as well, so I deleted it --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 02:42, 13 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Can't get into the FORUM .... AGAIN!!!!!!!==<br />
If anyone is interested as to why I have NOT deleted spammers, I CAN"T GET INTO THE FORUM!!!!! every time I try to log in, it boots me out! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:28, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Sucks for you, dude. Lets just hope that whatever is causing the problem is fixed<br />
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== Do a page on Pavement ==<br />
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Can someone please do a page on a movie called Pavement that stars Robert Patrick and Lauren Holly filmed in 2002. I was interested the weapons SWAT used and was pretty sure at one point even though she hadn't fired her weapon while clearing a house the top slide of her sidearm was locked back. I'd do it myself but I don't know where to find this movie as I saw it on TV one night and haven't done it before so wouldn't know how to make a page. Cheers<br />
:Pavement was filmed in South Africa, even though the story is set in San Francisco. Funny how San Francisco, suddenly looks like the scenes from District 9? Lauren Holly used a Vektor CP1 pistol, and yes, she pops out and her slide is open, but it looks like she fired and the editor removed the sequence of her firing, wanting instead for the crazy dude to force her to withdraw by firing his shotgun first. It was an editorial decision that screwed up what was already filmed. The SWAT team used South African R4s, Vektor CR21s, some dummy SIG 550s and one M16A1(probably a replica). The weapons are what one expects from a South African production. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Actor's Pages ==<br />
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I see that a lot of the actor pages are being converted to the "table" format, but I don't know if it's clear what should be in the first category. Should the guns be placed first before what movie the actor used them in? I would prefer it this way, because it's easier to read that way. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::You're right in pointing this out. I see NEW MEMBERS are changing the order in the tables on the ACTOR pages. Traditionally it's been WEAPON, then CHARACTER, then MOVIE TITLE, then notes. That format was chosen because it flows like a 'sentence'. I.e. John Doe has used the following ...... a [[Beretta 92FS]] as Krusty A. Clown in ''Attack of the Killer Cartoons'' (note), (year). WE should formalize a format and then institute it in the rules. Thanks for pointing this out. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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can someone do Wrongfully Accused with Leslie Nielsen. the reason I ask is because there is a strange LMG version of an M134 in it, and i would like to know what the hell it is, and if it is real.<br />
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== A question --<br />
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So, this wiki has articles about video games, anime and animated films which are either 3d representations or drawings of guns. So why are stop-motion films, and other animation of this kind not allowed here? Why are they an exception?<br />
::That answer is in the rules. The representations of guns are crude and not appropriate to waste IMFDB resources on. We haven't even covered the majority of our CORE genres (Films, Television shows, Anime & VG). And many of our pages are very incomplete or lame. So we tend to discourage new members from trying to introduce even MORE genres for us to cover. That and in those genres the guns are too crude to be listed as anything in particular. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Site working much better! ==<br />
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The Site seems to be working again! Thanks so much to all those who worked on it! --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:31, 11 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hello! Meet the new user msMaryStrikens. ==<br />
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Hello! I really liked your forum, especially this section. I just signed up and immediately decided to introduce myself, if I'm wrong section, ask the moderators to move the topic to the right place, hopefully it will take me well... My name is Mary, me 29 years, humourist and serious woman in one person. I apologize for my English [[Special:Contributions/89.107.104.99|User: 89.107.104.99]]<br />
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:''(Note: this message was moved by the MODs from an incorrect page to the main discussion page)'' [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Question: Live fire in movies ==<br />
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Hi, first of all, please excuse my English, I am not a native speaker. Secondly, please excuse I aks my question here although I know it is not the proper place for this, but I found no forum in this wiki. So here is my question:<br />
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When filming the German movie ''Spione'' (''Spys'', but there never was an English version) in 1928, there was live gun firing because they could not simulate it with special effects (1928), and the gun in the scene in question was fired in the direction of one of the actors. Strangely enough this caused a furor only because filming the scene was repeated several times by the director, who was was the lover of the actress in the scene, but it seems there was no talking about the live firing of a gun in a movie ''per se'' at all. So was using live fire in movies normal in a time they could not use special effects? Are there more films in which they used live fire instead of special effects? Thanks, Gustav<br />
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==[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imfdb IMFBD Wikipeda Page]==<br />
It's been put up for speedy deletion. Could better writers than me go explain why it shouldn't? -[[User:JonathanDP|JonathanDP]] 18:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm not sure I could myself. I mean, a Wikipedia article about another Wiki? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 18:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Too late, it's already gone. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Dude, there're many wikipedia articles on other wikis. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wikis Don't believe me?]--[[User:Zblayde|Zblayde]] 23:15, 15 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I was actually the one who wrote that article (Rockmandrum on Wikipedia). I wrote that article because there are also different databases such as the IMCFD (Internet Adult Film Database) and I thought IMFDB should go there as it's a database, but my article got tagged for the lack of sources though there are some sources out there. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Featured Quotes question...==<br />
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I dunno who is in charge of the featured quotes section, but I'd like to know. Can we, the registered users, propose new ideas of featured quotes? 'Cause I got a few, and I'm sure other guys have 'em too. [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 23:45 March 7, 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Quote suggestions ==<br />
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You might want to make your suggestions in the discussion section of the [[Template:Quote]] page. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Page that can't be edited==<br />
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Seems that the [[Ga-rei: Zero]] page can't be edited. There a problem with this or should it be just deleted instead to start all over? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] 20:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Just Cause 2==<br />
Hey guys. I know the first Just Cause had no realistic weapons, but that changes with JC2. So far even from the demo I've made out a Desert Eagle, M4-type rifle, MP5/UMP cross, and an M136 AT4. If anyone could screencap the game, I'd gladly do descriptions and the rest. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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==Hi there==<br />
New member here. Just wanted to drop a line. awesome site! Some pics I recognize off the net. Just a question. where do you get the great gun pictures from? I used to use Security arms and Guns of the world for reference but you guys have some of the best pics I've seen, including some that I have never seen anywhere else. If you license from some stock photo site, please let me know. I would be interested in getting access to their image library! :) Kyle<br />
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-For the most part pictures that are used are from MoviePropMaster2008, he is IMFDB's armorer, he has a lot of the pics of weapons on white backgrounds that you see. Many from movies they helped with. However, he doesn't have all of them. Just check for the picture you are looking before uploading any of your own. --[[User:Camden Hennis|Camden Hennis]] 16:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Director's Pages ==<br />
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If I've seen a page on the site like Hurt Locker or Face/Off or even Heat, I might like to know what other films the director has done, so I think the pages are helpful in that respect. Judging by the amount of pages we have for actors who have maybe used or carried a gun once, compared to how many directors pages we have, I don't think you're saving that much on space. Also, if you're looking to make this site a really good reference site, omitting these pages just doesn't make sense. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 02:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- Well, next thing you know, we'll include pages/categories for Producers, Production designers, etc. There's only so much this place needs to put on here. There's already an 'Internet Movie DataBase' that has all that other stuff. Like MPM said on another page - Putting a bunch of emphasis on what directors/actors/etc did what takes away from the primary focus of the site, which is to display and discuss the firearms and info directly relating to them. The actors are only here because they're the ones actually seen in movies handling the firearms, but anything other than that I feel would just be too much. If you want to find out about Directors and the like, again, there's IMDB as well as other sites on the internet for that. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 05:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Franchise pages ==<br />
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Like director pages, can we make pages for particular game franchises, like all of the Call of Duty games or all the Medal of Honor games? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:21, 8 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- You mean like list pages, like we have for movie franchises, film genres and such? If so, that would be fine, would make reference/look-up of a particular title in a series easier. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 21:44, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:No, unless the franchises have tons of titles that are completely different. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out all of the games titled "Call of Duty" or Medal of Honor" belong to a certain series of games. And I have not seen a surge of titles that OMIT the franchise identifiers like a new title that is officially a part of the Call of Duty series that doesn't have 'Call of Duty' in the title. Unless that happens, the franchise identifiers are NOT NECESSARY and add to the overall clutter that IMFDB is trying to avoid. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I was just talking about the really big franchises, and I guess it'd only apply to the CoD and MoH series. There are a DOZEN games in each series, several of which I've never even heard of. Users here are obviously fans, given how detailed the pages are and the length of the discussion pages. Maybe a chronological listing? Or a glorified disambiguation page? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 20:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::There should be a ''see also'' addition to the pages, however, a glorified disambiguation page is not a bad idea. But the pages STILL need a 'see also' section at the bottom of the page that is complete. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Organizing firearms by type ==<br />
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I'm just organizing some pages. [[Heat]] , [[Ronin]] , [[McQ]], [[Public Enemies]] , [[Reign of Fire]] and so forth. I'm not changing the text or screencaps, but I'm anal and I am grouping the firearms by type. Just wanted to get that out there so nobody sends me hate mail. I'm not messing with anybody's hard work. Just helping to organize. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 21:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- I took a gander at those pages, I actually like the grouped-together firearms, again, makes reference on the contents of a page easier. Especially if a page has a lot of guns that can be grouped under said categories like those pages.<br />
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Although some people like doing the pages by chronological appearance of the firearms (T2, as well as my own page, [[Nothing But Trouble]], for instance) but those pages either don't have a lot of guns or are very diverse.<br />
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But in pages where there are a lot of guns that can be grouped under some general types (Pistols, SMGs, Shotguns, Assault Rifles, etc) I think it helps. I've certainly seen some pages re-organized as such and it helped. I won't say it's the thing to do for ALL pages, but many would benefit from it. Just my thoughts. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks. I'm doing it to the pages that I created and a few pages with many many firearms like [[Heat]]. But I want to do it slowly. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Made for TV movies ==<br />
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What's the ruling on made for TV movies? I've seen them go either ways on this site. Dirty Dozen: the Next Mission is listed as a movie, while Lost Battalion is listed as TV, despite both being made for TV movies. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 21:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::'''What are you talking about? The Lost Battalion is not listed that way'''. For the record, made for TV Movies (or as called in Hollywood MOW for "Movie of the Week" as the major networks used to do, are listed as movies. They are not episodic series or Mini-series. If the entire thing is shown in a single showing then it's a movie. These made for TV movies are sometimes theatrically released overseas, and many of them are released on video/DVD as movies. Anyway that's the rule and I still don't see any violation of that rule. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I was referring to the weapons pages that link to it. For example, the M1917 pistol and rifle pages both have Lost Battalion under Television, while the M1911 and Chauchat entries have it under Film. And others not at all. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 05:16, 25 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Well that's an error on those gun pages. If you see errors like that, which I am sure there are plenty of on IMFDB, please fix them when you see them. There is a LOT of breaks in cross indexing. I've long berated members for creating pages and NOT cross indexing them to actors and gun pages. And with new members creating new pages every other hour or so, the problem is just going to get bigger. All IMFDB members should try to fix cross indexing errors when they see them. Heck, there are pages I've made that I forgot to cross index some of the weapons entries on. But we must be vigilant and try to keep IMFDB accurate and up to date as possible. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The Last Hunt ==<br />
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Hi it's been a while since I've seen this but I remember Robert Taylor using a massive Winchester rifle. I was wondering if this was a Model 1886 since he was hunting buffalo with it and it used a .45-90 bullet. <br />
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I've seen a Model '86 Winchester rifle in the Monte Walsh remake and in a recent episode of Pawn Stars and they didn't really look as big as Robert Taylor's. I was just wondering if anyone knew if it was an '86 or maybe something else.<br />
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==Gun-releated quotes on actor/actress page==<br />
I thought of an idea while looking at the quotes section: how about some quotes said by an actor/actress can go on their page? For example, Al Pacino's quote, "Say hello to my little friend," from [[Scarface]] can also go on his page, too. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Screen Used movie firearms ==<br />
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I have recently been searching the website for weapons which were pictures of actual movie firearms, example being weapons in Quentin Tarantino films.<br />
if anyone could list some films for me that would be great. These are some of the ones i have already found:<br />
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*[[Scarface]]<br />
*[[Pulp Fiction]]<br />
*[[Reservoir Dogs]]<br />
*[[True Romance]]<br />
*[[Jackie Brown]]<br />
*[[Lethal Weapon]] series<br />
*[[Die Hard]] series<br />
*[[Predator]]<br />
*[[The Untouchables]]<br />
*[[Austin Powers in Goldmember]]<br />
*[[The Spirit]]<br />
*[[Lord of War]]<br />
*[[Beverly Hills Cop]]<br />
*[[We Were Soldiers]]<br />
*[[Tightrope]]<br />
*[[The Enforcer]]<br />
*[[The Dead Pool]]<br />
*[[Dirty Harry]] - no S&W 29 unfortunately<br />
*[[The Quick and the Dead]]<br />
*[[Man on Fire]]<br />
*[[Miami Vice - Season 3]]<br />
*[[The Getaway (1972)]]<br />
*[[3:10 to Yuma (2007)]]<br />
*[[The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean]]<br />
*[[Machete]]<br />
*[[Fair Game]]<br />
*[[Ghosts of Mars]]<br />
*[[Wild Wild West]]<br />
*[[S.W.A.T. (2003)]]<br />
*[[Collateral]]<br />
*[[Hidalgo]]<br />
*[[Appaloosa]]<br />
That's all I could think of, for now, also many have the pics on the site may not say they were used in a certain film, but a lot of them are movie guns.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::(a) Thank you. :) You're actually just chronicling my work for the site. 90% of the screen used photos I shot exclusively for IMFDB and I kinda wondered myself just how many titles I've covered. (b) it's sad but true that many OTHER gun pics are of guns that I'm certain have appeared in stuff, but unless record have been checked and verified, it can't be said with any sort of certainty. So we have TONS more movie used weapons than not in photographs. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We also have several guns from ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. At some point, I think we need to make a page with all of the screen-used movie guns that MoviePropmaster has photographed for us. And then I also need to make a page with the gun pictures that my contact at ISS sent me. There are a lot of them on this site. Of course, there are also some that we've taken from other sites (like YourProps and PropStore), but I'd probably just put the gun pictures that are IMFDB exclusives. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::That seems like a good idea MT.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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[[Book of Eli, The]] has that kind of stuff on its page and [[The Unit]] as well, if you want to be hardcore about it. [[Spades of Columbia]]<br />
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== Missing firearm (The Peacemaker) ==<br />
Just got done watching this movie & there is a scene between the Russian General & one of the bad guys in the back of the truck (about 1 hour 15 minutes in) & I'm sure the gun that the General threatens him with is a Steyr GB pistol, he also uses it to shoot at the approaching helicopters, could someone else confirm this & update the page?<br />
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== Empty firearm ==<br />
In some films you see that when a gun is fired, the chamber clicks empty but the slide doesn't lock back and I was just curious as to how they manage to do that?<br />
:If it's showcased in a film, then it was intentional. Many directors who are unfamiliar with guns will use that action to indicate that a gun is empty. <br />
:'''''Scene:''' Bad guy points pistol at face of good guy. It is a Beretta 92FS. He pulls the trigger dramatically. "click" nothing happens. Bad guy has panicked look on his face. "Click" "Click"! as he continues to pull the trigger. "Aha!" yells the hero as he swats away the empty gun and punches the bad guy in the face.'' DOH! <br />
:It's done via editing. I seriously doubt most directors would end a gunfight with the phenomenon of a dud round (though dud rounds have appeared in the storylines of some shows). Or a bad primer. Or a worn or damaged magazine which does not engaged the slide lock. Or a worn or damaged slide. But seriously, anyone who fires a gun can pretty much tell when it's empty and devoid of rounds, unless it's not their gun and they're completely unfamiliar with it. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:15, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Bad magazines...its not the desired option on semi-autos.--[[User:Spades of Columbia|Spades of Columbia]] 18:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== glock variants ==<br />
i just wondered, is a Glock 19 the same as a Glock 23 with the exeption of the caliber?<br />
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Yes<br />
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==Main Page error==<br />
Has anyone ever gotten this error before? This happened to me many times. During this error, I cannot go to any pages unless there are links on a page and I'm logged out and I can't log in. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 13:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I have had this happen to me, too. I am running up to date Firefox. It´s a rather odd error, really. --[[User:Milkovich|Milkovich]] 17:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I've encountered it as well. I usually run IE as my browser, and it sometimes carries on when I go through Google Chrome too. Tends to be accompanied with a fair amount of lag as well when it occurs. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 06:26, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I've never had this error before, but I only update or run programs if I have to. It's running on bare bones only. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 20:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- I had this error as well Friday evening (running FireFox), but as we had a badass lightning storm that probably played havoc with the signal, that ain't too surprising (Lag/connection issue, like Orca alluded to). But I can't speak for you other guys, though. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 19:50, 22 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Page Format Change? ==<br />
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I recently noticed that the page justification seems to be locked down, making actor pages with the table format seem particularly squashed if there's a lot of information. Is there a reason for this? --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 05:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Here's an example:<br />
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Before, the page would stretch down to fill out the entire screen, but now it seems to stop in the middle.<br />
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:- I also have that same issue, though my screen hasn't lost that much, in which case I'd say it's locked at a particular resolution (1024 I'd have to figure, based upon my own display res). Not to mention it's also present here on this talk page and other pages as well. I too wonder what that's all about. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 13:50, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Might be for the upcoming ad test on IMFDB. will have to wait and see. If that is the case the we will have to change the layout on the pages to something more standard.--[[User:Phoenixent|phoenixent]] 16:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
==best guns for an assassin==<br />
what would be the best guns for an assassin????<br />
:That would depend on the situation he's in. Is the the assassin shooting from a distance? Sniper rifle then. In a place where there are other people around that could hear a gunshot. Suppressed small caliber handgun. You should also remember there is a million and one ways to kill someone. A gun is just one of tools to use.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 13:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I understand that, but I was looking for something more precise, like in "Assassins" they make a big deal about using those Ruger .22, but in "Collateral" the hitman uses a H&K .45 (well, he also use a Ruger .22), in "The Replacement Killer" the killer is into Berettas 92f, but what would be the perfect gun for a profesional, smart and effective assassin??????<br />
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:In films like you mention, it's going to depend on what the writer or director chose to use. (Whether it was the ideal choice is another matter.) In Collateral he uses the H&K for the most part because noise isn't an issue and the .45 is a good round. He uses Ruger .22 only when in a restaurant. In the nightclub there's lots of people around, but he could get out with the crowd. The target also had several bodyguards. In the Replacement Killers the 92F was most likely chosen because Chow Yun-Fat used them in his prior films and knew how to handle them. There is no one gun that is the "perfect gun for a professional, smart and effective assassin." Since you're talking handgun distances there's too many good guns to choose from. Go with whatever you feel like in your story (I guess and hope that's the reason why you asked). If I had to choose I'd go with the 1911. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 12:49, 25 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Agent 47 all the way, AMT Hardballers with optional longslide and supressor. More seriously, I guess a pistol like a Hi-Power or a Beretta 92 with a supressor would be good for closer range killings. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 14:36, 25 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Thank ypu guys, Predator, I'm a scriptwritter, I don't own a gun and I don't want to kill anyone, so don't worry. I just like good assassins in movies, what about a H6K p7m8?????, It's such a compact gun for a 9mm, I always thought it was kind like a tactic gun, isn't it????? why Swat teams are into Kimbers?????<br />
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== Listverse.com ==<br />
Here's a cool little list I found on The List Universe.com about the 10 greatest firearms in history.<br />
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http://listverse.com/2009/10/07/top-10-greatest-firearms-in-history/<br />
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==Delete Spree==<br />
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Apparently AdAstra went around and tagged a bunch of pages for deletion today, and with many of them I see no reason at all why they should be deleted. It says they "don't comply with the rules and standards" but in many cases I simply cannot find any rules, standards, OR principles that were broken. Seems to me it's more personal preference of what he wants to get rid of than an objective viewing of deletion candidates.</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Black_Lagoon&diff=336700Talk:Black Lagoon2010-10-02T20:09:37Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* New guns */</p>
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<div>If anyone knows more than me, feel free to add, It's a free wiki site after all.<br />
:'''*Notice* The third season is only going to be available on video, so that it will not be edited for television-S&Wshooter'''<br />
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== Unknown handgun ==<br />
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I am putting this gun here before I post it in the main page until I find out what it is. Anyone know?<br />
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[[Image:BLOVAgun.jpg|thumb|none|700px|]]<br />
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It looks like a Taurus Pt92.<br />
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What makes you say that? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:55, 31 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The cocking seration at the rear of the slide looks rather wide.<br />
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Then it could just be a Beretta 92 series [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== OVA 1 ==<br />
add some OVA1 pic,and have a unknow shotgun at OVA1 --[[User:Kin93|Kin93]] 18:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Are they GOOD quality? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I have replaced ALL of the OVA caps with my own that are from a high quality 1280x720 H264 AAC version. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== APS Assault Rifle ==<br />
The APS underwater assault rifle was design to function both above and under water, just as any other projectile weapons designed to function under water (H&K P11 for example can function properly above water, with even better range than under water). Therefore, it's not really strange that Revy was able to fire the APS in the sub.<br />
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== MG3 ==<br />
You state in the article that the MG3 was never fired in the show, but actually it was. The Nazis had an MG3 mounted on the side of their ship, and it was used to fire at Revy & Rock when they surfaced.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 02:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Desert Eagle ==<br />
just an observation: Yolanda's desert eagly is probly the .357 varient- notice the size of the bore compared to her trigger-finger. unless she had rather large hands (and by large i mean half-inch diameter sausage fingers) it probaly wasnt the .50 action express version. -Dakota the Wolf 01 Sept. 2008<br />
:Never, ever, ever use the term "DEagle" on this sight. That is amatuer gamer slang. It is a Desert Eagle, not a DEagle. It's almost as bad as calling a magazine a "clip". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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Chang's Beretta 76s could be back up guns.<br />
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wasnt there a desert eagle in the bar shootout in the first episode used by the leader.<br />
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== Unknown MG ==<br />
I'm pretty sure it is a member of the DShK family of Russian 12.7mm heavy machine guns.<br />
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-Actually, I think it is an NSV heavy machine gun.<br />
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== Gepard? ==<br />
Revy's heavy sniper rifle resembles a Gepard pretty clearly in the manga. The anime version doesn't exactly match any of the images I can find of the weapon - possibly the animators aren't very familiar with it either, or maybe they have access to better sources.<br />
==Manga==<br />
: I read the whole of the manga in 2 days(starting yesterday) and My God it was the most amazing comic experience I have yet to experience.I was actually sad when I came to the end of the latest chapter and am now waiting for Rei Hiroe to upload more. -[[User:S&amp;Wshooter|S&amp;Wshooter]] 05:49, 13 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I've been reading the manga too. This is a great series [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::It's pretty good, though I prefer Gunsmith Cats.-protoAuthor<br />
I've only had a couple issues between the Manga and the Anime. the Anime has everything out of order and there are guns that are in the Manga that are subsequently not in the Anime. Like the PT92 that Revy uses after onew of her Cutlasses are cut in half. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 00:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== More Guns ==<br />
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Hey, I recently watched the series, and noticed some guns not present in this list.<br />
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Glock - used by bounty hunters/mercenaries, most clearly seen in the part where the bounty hunters are chasing the counterfeiter and during the ensuing gunfight on the PT boat.<br />
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Browning HP type handgun- used by Yakuza, possibly other characters -seen clearly in the last episode where it's the first handgun Kosa's bodyguard hands over to Balalaika's bodyguard. Strangely it changes into a Sig Sauer P226 when he hands it over, though!<br />
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Makarov PM - used by Balalaika's bodyguard Boris and several other Hotel Moscow soldiers when they don't have AK's.<br />
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Mossberg 590 - used by the first bounty hunter to break into the counterfeiter Jane's hotel room, and a few others. Clearly a Mossberg 590 due to the barrel shroud and tang safety (which oddly looks like a hammer to a Henry lever action rifle or something, rather than the real life safety).<br />
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Remington 870 with extended magazine - used by various thugs in the series, in addition to Marine Magnums like the one Dutch uses.<br />
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Winchester 1300 Defender/Ithaca 37 with extended magazine (?) - used by Yakuza in the bowling alley.<br />
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M249 Para(?) - when Roberta drops her suitcase machine gun, it opens and for a brief second one can see a machine gun of some sort inside. It looks to me like a Minimi/M249 Para.<br />
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NSV machine gun - the heavy machine gun used by Hotel Moscow to shoot at Hänsel and Gretel is one of these, I believe.<br />
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there was a norinco type56 with synthetic furniture in episode three.<br />
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a browning m2 on a dual mount in episode three.<br />
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== What is this? ==<br />
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Got another gun. Can anyone ID [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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[[Image:BLreva.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]<br />
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This picture is far to simple for it to be identified. It could be any number of revolvers.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]<br />
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== M249 ==<br />
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I believe there's an M249 inside Roberta's suitcase<br />
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I think it was P90's in the manga<br />
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There is also a Benelli M4 at the bottom.<br />
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looks like a Defense Technologies 37mm Gas Gun is in the bottom of the case<br />
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"Rugers are seen as "bottom of the barrel" handguns." - According to what uneducated individual?<br />
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This one. Not originally but I don't have a high opinion of them. Course their not as bad as a fucking Hi-point or some shit, i'd just rather have an M1911A1. Or a beretta 92FS. Or a Sig. Or an H&K.--[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 01:54, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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If the one on top is an M249, it rivals an AKSU is length. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:32, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== The "AMT long slides" ==<br />
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Couldn't they just be long barreled Custom M1911s like James Caan had in Thief?--[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 01:55, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Sistema?==<br />
There is no proof that her guns are Sistemas. Just because she is from South America doesn't mean she is not using one of the millions of M1911/M1911A1 pistols that are all over the world. This puts an obscure M1911 variant onto IMFDB with the thinnest of excuses. Please tell me there is more proof in the show as to what these pistols are. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Honestly, I don't know where I got the impression that they were Sistema 1911s. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:29, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: I believe it says such in the manga.-protoAuthor 07:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
::: At some point in the manga, you can see stamping on the supposed Sistemas' slides. I don't know guns well enough to tell by slide stamping, but the crest didn't look like the writing on the slide of the pictured Sistema.<br />
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:Do you know which chapter and page we see these markings. Since the anime is based on the manga, it should be exactly the same. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:42, 2 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::http://www.onemanga.com/Black_Lagoon/4/01/ http://www.onemanga.com/Black_Lagoon/4/10/<br />
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Well, there's the proof. And since the Anime is based off the manga, it should remained classed as Sistemas. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:I'm new at this gun classification business, but I've been searching around and have yet to find a single Sistema pistol with slide markings that looked like that. I found some with crests, but they were located only on the right side of the pistol, between the text and the slide serrations. The manga shows a crest I can't identify towards the front of the slide, and I can't read the text on those scans. I really don't think they're explicitly Sistemas, though feel free to prove me wrong.<br />
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I believe I read somewhere that Roberta used Argentinian Ballester Molina's, but I do not remember where I read that.<br />
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==Annoying Picture Captions==<br />
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Well I hope the title speaks for itself, but at any rate can the picture captions be fixed to something relevant to guns? Humor is alright in my book but the captions are just plain annoying and unnecessary.<br />
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Well I agree SOME of the captions are a bit long to be funny, but I think most of them are ok. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
:They kind of fit with the whole show's attitude, really.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:And besides, they make me laugh. That's A+ in my book. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:50, 25 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Pistolet Maszynowy wz.63 AKA PM-63 Submachine gun==<br />
Guys, You know "Pistolet Maszynowy" in Polish mean "Submachine gun"...<br />
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==More Guns ==<br />
In the second episode rock uses a Webley & Scott WWI Signal Pistol, and in episodes three and fourteen there are M2 Browning machine guns both single and in the twin mounted variant.<br />
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:I thought there is a picture of dual mounted M2s. I forgot about the flare pistol Rock used in episode 2. I didn't really see that as a firearm [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:27, 8 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== no Beretta==<br />
Revy is the only charter in the Anime using Beretta 92FS. Rex 095<br />
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Mr. Chang wields two Beretta 76 .22 LR claiber handguns in the manga in stade of Colt .45s.<br />
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he could use .22 claiber handguns so show how good of a markman he his to kill someone with one shot form a small claiber gun.<br />
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Or the creator behind the picking of the guns didn't know a .22 with a 9mm. But getting shot with a .22 and dying from it is a harder death [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Chang uses the Beretta 76's as his main weapon throughout the manga, the 1911's he uses in the one shootout are his bodygaurds backups. Rei Hiroe, the manga creator, knew that they were .22s from the beginning. It is mentioned in a later manga chapter, not released in the U.S. yet, that a couple of years before the manga takes place he and Balalaika had a shootout and she mentions getting hit with several .22 rounds.<br />
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: I know, I read the manga, translated online. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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== No manga ==<br />
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Until they make another season, do not post manga shots of guns that have not been in the anime so far like the grenade launcher and shotgun of the other maid. I have a manga shot of Roberta's spas-12 because I havent found a good shot of it in the Anime [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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: Why not? Who made you pope of wiki-town?<br />
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::He IS one of the admins, and there is a long-standing no print media rule. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 22:53, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: Well, that's a fucking retarded rule. There's tons of gun-heavy comics, mangas and books out there that could use this kind of treatment. Ever read a detective novel and wonder what the main character's gun's supposed to look like? Ever read a manga and wonder if that thing in the character's hand is real or just imagined by the artist?<br />
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::Hey [[Special:Contributions/72.244.206.60|User 72.244.206.60]]! Guess what? I don't care what rules you think are retarded or not. If you really want a Manga site then create your own Internet Manga Firearms Data Base then. Until then, dial back on your attitude or else. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:46, 21 March 2010 (UTC) (Another ADMIN here).....<br />
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But this site is Internet Movie Firearms Database. It implies movies, TV, anything on the screen, which can include games. Not books and manga. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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==Picture Error==<br />
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The second picture under the CZ-75 is incorrectly labeled as Takenaka shooting at Ibraha. He is in fact shooting at Revy during that scene.<br />
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== Hand Grenade ==<br />
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What kind of hand grenade is that appears in Episode 11? <br />
Mr. Chang kicks it back to the throwers in the gunfight with the militia men... [[User:Flinx|Flinx]] 20:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Revy's Berettas ==<br />
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I was rewatching the anime the other day and in the opening credits there is a view of Revy's Berettas and the markings say 92F not FS.<br />
:The problem is the the only Inox that is listed is the FS one. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:52, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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There was never a 92F offered in stainless steel, the only stainless Beretta 92 Series pistols are post 92F. It can be assumed that her pistols are stock Beretta 92F's that have just been heavily customized and finished with either nickel or chrome plating (the have never declared the guns were stainless steel in the anime as far as I can remember so that is still possible). This theory is further strengthened since her guns don't possess factory style rollmarks (which makes sense since they don't have factory length slide assemblies), and she refers to one of them as "a Beretta M92 Custom, the Praiyachat Sword Cutlass Special" at the end of Episode 23. Either it is a custom gun from the ground up, which isn't too farfetched, or it's an error on the animator's and Hiroe's part (who based the guns on the Taurus PT92s from Romeo + Juliet) which seems more likely. Still, the customization thing is a good and solid explanation of why they say 92F and not 92FS. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 06:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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So what should we call Revy's gun? A Custom 92? 19:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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That is a problem. Should we link it to the 92F with a note that it is probably chrome or nickel plated? [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 19:51, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I would do that, and keep the Sword Cutlass image up there as well. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 05:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Missed Guns ==<br />
I spotted a few guns not in the article, both from Season 2 Episode 2. Hansel carries a pair of what I think are Smith and Wesson Bodyguards in a dual shoulder rig under his coat, and Verrochio draws a Beretta 92 at one point when confronting the Twins. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 23:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Technically the second season is lumped in with the first, so I am assuming you are talking about the 14th episode. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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And looking at them now, they seem too small to be S&W Bodyguards and Verrochio doesn't look like he's holding a 92. Caps are below to compare. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Smith & Wesson 642's maybe. They are certainly not the older model bodyguard, they have a pronounced rounded frame over the grip.<br />
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I don't know. They look an awful lot like S&W Bodyguards but could also be Centennial models. As for Verrochio's gun looks like a Taurs PT-92 to me. Looks like it has a frame mounted safety.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 05:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The slide doesn't fit the profile of a 92. Look at Revy's gun and compared it to this gun. It's too flat and we don't see the smooth exposed barrel [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:24, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The very end looks like a nubbin of an exposed barrel along with the slide shape, and cocking serrations looks like maybe a poorly drawn version of the PT-92. It just doesn't look enough like anything else to me. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 15:03, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It's a [http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg101-e.htm Bernardelli P-018]--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 15:04, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Pretty sure PistolJunkie just nailed that one. And I'm leaning towards Centennial's for Hansel's guns. -- K[[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 18:54, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== New guns ==<br />
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A couple new guns, but no action at all in the second OVA. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 17:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I can't find any subbed versions, so I don't really wanna watch yet... D: -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Black_Lagoon&diff=336043Talk:Black Lagoon2010-09-30T18:57:11Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Missed Guns */</p>
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<div>If anyone knows more than me, feel free to add, It's a free wiki site after all.<br />
:'''*Notice* The third season is only going to be available on video, so that it will not be edited for television-S&Wshooter'''<br />
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== Unknown handgun ==<br />
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I am putting this gun here before I post it in the main page until I find out what it is. Anyone know?<br />
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[[Image:BLOVAgun.jpg|thumb|none|700px|]]<br />
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It looks like a Taurus Pt92.<br />
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What makes you say that? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:55, 31 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The cocking seration at the rear of the slide looks rather wide.<br />
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Then it could just be a Beretta 92 series [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== OVA 1 ==<br />
add some OVA1 pic,and have a unknow shotgun at OVA1 --[[User:Kin93|Kin93]] 18:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Are they GOOD quality? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I have replaced ALL of the OVA caps with my own that are from a high quality 1280x720 H264 AAC version. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== APS Assault Rifle ==<br />
The APS underwater assault rifle was design to function both above and under water, just as any other projectile weapons designed to function under water (H&K P11 for example can function properly above water, with even better range than under water). Therefore, it's not really strange that Revy was able to fire the APS in the sub.<br />
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== MG3 ==<br />
You state in the article that the MG3 was never fired in the show, but actually it was. The Nazis had an MG3 mounted on the side of their ship, and it was used to fire at Revy & Rock when they surfaced.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 02:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Desert Eagle ==<br />
just an observation: Yolanda's desert eagly is probly the .357 varient- notice the size of the bore compared to her trigger-finger. unless she had rather large hands (and by large i mean half-inch diameter sausage fingers) it probaly wasnt the .50 action express version. -Dakota the Wolf 01 Sept. 2008<br />
:Never, ever, ever use the term "DEagle" on this sight. That is amatuer gamer slang. It is a Desert Eagle, not a DEagle. It's almost as bad as calling a magazine a "clip". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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Chang's Beretta 76s could be back up guns.<br />
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wasnt there a desert eagle in the bar shootout in the first episode used by the leader.<br />
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== Unknown MG ==<br />
I'm pretty sure it is a member of the DShK family of Russian 12.7mm heavy machine guns.<br />
<br />
-Actually, I think it is an NSV heavy machine gun.<br />
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== Gepard? ==<br />
Revy's heavy sniper rifle resembles a Gepard pretty clearly in the manga. The anime version doesn't exactly match any of the images I can find of the weapon - possibly the animators aren't very familiar with it either, or maybe they have access to better sources.<br />
==Manga==<br />
: I read the whole of the manga in 2 days(starting yesterday) and My God it was the most amazing comic experience I have yet to experience.I was actually sad when I came to the end of the latest chapter and am now waiting for Rei Hiroe to upload more. -[[User:S&amp;Wshooter|S&amp;Wshooter]] 05:49, 13 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I've been reading the manga too. This is a great series [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::It's pretty good, though I prefer Gunsmith Cats.-protoAuthor<br />
I've only had a couple issues between the Manga and the Anime. the Anime has everything out of order and there are guns that are in the Manga that are subsequently not in the Anime. Like the PT92 that Revy uses after onew of her Cutlasses are cut in half. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 00:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== More Guns ==<br />
<br />
Hey, I recently watched the series, and noticed some guns not present in this list.<br />
<br />
Glock - used by bounty hunters/mercenaries, most clearly seen in the part where the bounty hunters are chasing the counterfeiter and during the ensuing gunfight on the PT boat.<br />
<br />
Browning HP type handgun- used by Yakuza, possibly other characters -seen clearly in the last episode where it's the first handgun Kosa's bodyguard hands over to Balalaika's bodyguard. Strangely it changes into a Sig Sauer P226 when he hands it over, though!<br />
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Makarov PM - used by Balalaika's bodyguard Boris and several other Hotel Moscow soldiers when they don't have AK's.<br />
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Mossberg 590 - used by the first bounty hunter to break into the counterfeiter Jane's hotel room, and a few others. Clearly a Mossberg 590 due to the barrel shroud and tang safety (which oddly looks like a hammer to a Henry lever action rifle or something, rather than the real life safety).<br />
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Remington 870 with extended magazine - used by various thugs in the series, in addition to Marine Magnums like the one Dutch uses.<br />
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Winchester 1300 Defender/Ithaca 37 with extended magazine (?) - used by Yakuza in the bowling alley.<br />
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M249 Para(?) - when Roberta drops her suitcase machine gun, it opens and for a brief second one can see a machine gun of some sort inside. It looks to me like a Minimi/M249 Para.<br />
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NSV machine gun - the heavy machine gun used by Hotel Moscow to shoot at Hänsel and Gretel is one of these, I believe.<br />
<br />
there was a norinco type56 with synthetic furniture in episode three.<br />
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a browning m2 on a dual mount in episode three.<br />
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== What is this? ==<br />
<br />
Got another gun. Can anyone ID [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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[[Image:BLreva.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]<br />
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This picture is far to simple for it to be identified. It could be any number of revolvers.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]<br />
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== M249 ==<br />
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I believe there's an M249 inside Roberta's suitcase<br />
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[[Image:BLM249.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]<br />
I think it was P90's in the manga<br />
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There is also a Benelli M4 at the bottom.<br />
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looks like a Defense Technologies 37mm Gas Gun is in the bottom of the case<br />
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"Rugers are seen as "bottom of the barrel" handguns." - According to what uneducated individual?<br />
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This one. Not originally but I don't have a high opinion of them. Course their not as bad as a fucking Hi-point or some shit, i'd just rather have an M1911A1. Or a beretta 92FS. Or a Sig. Or an H&K.--[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 01:54, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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If the one on top is an M249, it rivals an AKSU is length. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:32, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== The "AMT long slides" ==<br />
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Couldn't they just be long barreled Custom M1911s like James Caan had in Thief?--[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 01:55, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Sistema?==<br />
There is no proof that her guns are Sistemas. Just because she is from South America doesn't mean she is not using one of the millions of M1911/M1911A1 pistols that are all over the world. This puts an obscure M1911 variant onto IMFDB with the thinnest of excuses. Please tell me there is more proof in the show as to what these pistols are. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Honestly, I don't know where I got the impression that they were Sistema 1911s. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:29, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: I believe it says such in the manga.-protoAuthor 07:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
::: At some point in the manga, you can see stamping on the supposed Sistemas' slides. I don't know guns well enough to tell by slide stamping, but the crest didn't look like the writing on the slide of the pictured Sistema.<br />
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:Do you know which chapter and page we see these markings. Since the anime is based on the manga, it should be exactly the same. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:42, 2 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::http://www.onemanga.com/Black_Lagoon/4/01/ http://www.onemanga.com/Black_Lagoon/4/10/<br />
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Well, there's the proof. And since the Anime is based off the manga, it should remained classed as Sistemas. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:I'm new at this gun classification business, but I've been searching around and have yet to find a single Sistema pistol with slide markings that looked like that. I found some with crests, but they were located only on the right side of the pistol, between the text and the slide serrations. The manga shows a crest I can't identify towards the front of the slide, and I can't read the text on those scans. I really don't think they're explicitly Sistemas, though feel free to prove me wrong.<br />
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I believe I read somewhere that Roberta used Argentinian Ballester Molina's, but I do not remember where I read that.<br />
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==Annoying Picture Captions==<br />
<br />
Well I hope the title speaks for itself, but at any rate can the picture captions be fixed to something relevant to guns? Humor is alright in my book but the captions are just plain annoying and unnecessary.<br />
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Well I agree SOME of the captions are a bit long to be funny, but I think most of them are ok. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
:They kind of fit with the whole show's attitude, really.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:And besides, they make me laugh. That's A+ in my book. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:50, 25 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Pistolet Maszynowy wz.63 AKA PM-63 Submachine gun==<br />
Guys, You know "Pistolet Maszynowy" in Polish mean "Submachine gun"...<br />
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==More Guns ==<br />
In the second episode rock uses a Webley & Scott WWI Signal Pistol, and in episodes three and fourteen there are M2 Browning machine guns both single and in the twin mounted variant.<br />
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:I thought there is a picture of dual mounted M2s. I forgot about the flare pistol Rock used in episode 2. I didn't really see that as a firearm [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:27, 8 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== no Beretta==<br />
Revy is the only charter in the Anime using Beretta 92FS. Rex 095<br />
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Mr. Chang wields two Beretta 76 .22 LR claiber handguns in the manga in stade of Colt .45s.<br />
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he could use .22 claiber handguns so show how good of a markman he his to kill someone with one shot form a small claiber gun.<br />
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Or the creator behind the picking of the guns didn't know a .22 with a 9mm. But getting shot with a .22 and dying from it is a harder death [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Chang uses the Beretta 76's as his main weapon throughout the manga, the 1911's he uses in the one shootout are his bodygaurds backups. Rei Hiroe, the manga creator, knew that they were .22s from the beginning. It is mentioned in a later manga chapter, not released in the U.S. yet, that a couple of years before the manga takes place he and Balalaika had a shootout and she mentions getting hit with several .22 rounds.<br />
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: I know, I read the manga, translated online. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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== No manga ==<br />
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Until they make another season, do not post manga shots of guns that have not been in the anime so far like the grenade launcher and shotgun of the other maid. I have a manga shot of Roberta's spas-12 because I havent found a good shot of it in the Anime [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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: Why not? Who made you pope of wiki-town?<br />
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::He IS one of the admins, and there is a long-standing no print media rule. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 22:53, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: Well, that's a fucking retarded rule. There's tons of gun-heavy comics, mangas and books out there that could use this kind of treatment. Ever read a detective novel and wonder what the main character's gun's supposed to look like? Ever read a manga and wonder if that thing in the character's hand is real or just imagined by the artist?<br />
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::Hey [[Special:Contributions/72.244.206.60|User 72.244.206.60]]! Guess what? I don't care what rules you think are retarded or not. If you really want a Manga site then create your own Internet Manga Firearms Data Base then. Until then, dial back on your attitude or else. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:46, 21 March 2010 (UTC) (Another ADMIN here).....<br />
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But this site is Internet Movie Firearms Database. It implies movies, TV, anything on the screen, which can include games. Not books and manga. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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==Picture Error==<br />
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The second picture under the CZ-75 is incorrectly labeled as Takenaka shooting at Ibraha. He is in fact shooting at Revy during that scene.<br />
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== Hand Grenade ==<br />
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What kind of hand grenade is that appears in Episode 11? <br />
Mr. Chang kicks it back to the throwers in the gunfight with the militia men... [[User:Flinx|Flinx]] 20:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Revy's Berettas ==<br />
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I was rewatching the anime the other day and in the opening credits there is a view of Revy's Berettas and the markings say 92F not FS.<br />
:The problem is the the only Inox that is listed is the FS one. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:52, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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There was never a 92F offered in stainless steel, the only stainless Beretta 92 Series pistols are post 92F. It can be assumed that her pistols are stock Beretta 92F's that have just been heavily customized and finished with either nickel or chrome plating (the have never declared the guns were stainless steel in the anime as far as I can remember so that is still possible). This theory is further strengthened since her guns don't possess factory style rollmarks (which makes sense since they don't have factory length slide assemblies), and she refers to one of them as "a Beretta M92 Custom, the Praiyachat Sword Cutlass Special" at the end of Episode 23. Either it is a custom gun from the ground up, which isn't too farfetched, or it's an error on the animator's and Hiroe's part (who based the guns on the Taurus PT92s from Romeo + Juliet) which seems more likely. Still, the customization thing is a good and solid explanation of why they say 92F and not 92FS. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 06:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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So what should we call Revy's gun? A Custom 92? 19:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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That is a problem. Should we link it to the 92F with a note that it is probably chrome or nickel plated? [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 19:51, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I would do that, and keep the Sword Cutlass image up there as well. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 05:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Missed Guns ==<br />
I spotted a few guns not in the article, both from Season 2 Episode 2. Hansel carries a pair of what I think are Smith and Wesson Bodyguards in a dual shoulder rig under his coat, and Verrochio draws a Beretta 92 at one point when confronting the Twins. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 23:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Technically the second season is lumped in with the first, so I am assuming you are talking about the 14th episode. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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And looking at them now, they seem too small to be S&W Bodyguards and Verrochio doesn't look like he's holding a 92. Caps are below to compare. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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[[Image:BLS&Wguns.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br />
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[[Image:BLSVerrgun.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]<br />
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I don't know. They look an awful lot like S&W Bodyguards but could also be Centennial models. As for Verrochio's gun looks like a Taurs PT-92 to me. Looks like it has a frame mounted safety.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 05:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The slide doesn't fit the profile of a 92. Look at Revy's gun and compared it to this gun. It's too flat and we don't see the smooth exposed barrel [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:24, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The very end looks like a nubbin of an exposed barrel along with the slide shape, and cocking serrations looks like maybe a poorly drawn version of the PT-92. It just doesn't look enough like anything else to me. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 15:03, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It's a [http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg101-e.htm Bernardelli P-018]--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 15:04, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Pretty sure PistolJunkie just nailed that one. And I'm leaning towards Centennial's for Hansel's guns. -- K[[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 18:54, 30 September 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Black_Lagoon&diff=336042Talk:Black Lagoon2010-09-30T18:54:45Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Missed Guns */</p>
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<div>If anyone knows more than me, feel free to add, It's a free wiki site after all.<br />
:'''*Notice* The third season is only going to be available on video, so that it will not be edited for television-S&Wshooter'''<br />
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== Unknown handgun ==<br />
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I am putting this gun here before I post it in the main page until I find out what it is. Anyone know?<br />
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[[Image:BLOVAgun.jpg|thumb|none|700px|]]<br />
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It looks like a Taurus Pt92.<br />
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What makes you say that? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:55, 31 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The cocking seration at the rear of the slide looks rather wide.<br />
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Then it could just be a Beretta 92 series [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== OVA 1 ==<br />
add some OVA1 pic,and have a unknow shotgun at OVA1 --[[User:Kin93|Kin93]] 18:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Are they GOOD quality? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I have replaced ALL of the OVA caps with my own that are from a high quality 1280x720 H264 AAC version. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== APS Assault Rifle ==<br />
The APS underwater assault rifle was design to function both above and under water, just as any other projectile weapons designed to function under water (H&K P11 for example can function properly above water, with even better range than under water). Therefore, it's not really strange that Revy was able to fire the APS in the sub.<br />
<br />
== MG3 ==<br />
You state in the article that the MG3 was never fired in the show, but actually it was. The Nazis had an MG3 mounted on the side of their ship, and it was used to fire at Revy & Rock when they surfaced.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 02:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Desert Eagle ==<br />
just an observation: Yolanda's desert eagly is probly the .357 varient- notice the size of the bore compared to her trigger-finger. unless she had rather large hands (and by large i mean half-inch diameter sausage fingers) it probaly wasnt the .50 action express version. -Dakota the Wolf 01 Sept. 2008<br />
:Never, ever, ever use the term "DEagle" on this sight. That is amatuer gamer slang. It is a Desert Eagle, not a DEagle. It's almost as bad as calling a magazine a "clip". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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Chang's Beretta 76s could be back up guns.<br />
<br />
wasnt there a desert eagle in the bar shootout in the first episode used by the leader.<br />
<br />
== Unknown MG ==<br />
I'm pretty sure it is a member of the DShK family of Russian 12.7mm heavy machine guns.<br />
<br />
-Actually, I think it is an NSV heavy machine gun.<br />
<br />
== Gepard? ==<br />
Revy's heavy sniper rifle resembles a Gepard pretty clearly in the manga. The anime version doesn't exactly match any of the images I can find of the weapon - possibly the animators aren't very familiar with it either, or maybe they have access to better sources.<br />
==Manga==<br />
: I read the whole of the manga in 2 days(starting yesterday) and My God it was the most amazing comic experience I have yet to experience.I was actually sad when I came to the end of the latest chapter and am now waiting for Rei Hiroe to upload more. -[[User:S&amp;Wshooter|S&amp;Wshooter]] 05:49, 13 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I've been reading the manga too. This is a great series [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::It's pretty good, though I prefer Gunsmith Cats.-protoAuthor<br />
I've only had a couple issues between the Manga and the Anime. the Anime has everything out of order and there are guns that are in the Manga that are subsequently not in the Anime. Like the PT92 that Revy uses after onew of her Cutlasses are cut in half. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 00:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== More Guns ==<br />
<br />
Hey, I recently watched the series, and noticed some guns not present in this list.<br />
<br />
Glock - used by bounty hunters/mercenaries, most clearly seen in the part where the bounty hunters are chasing the counterfeiter and during the ensuing gunfight on the PT boat.<br />
<br />
Browning HP type handgun- used by Yakuza, possibly other characters -seen clearly in the last episode where it's the first handgun Kosa's bodyguard hands over to Balalaika's bodyguard. Strangely it changes into a Sig Sauer P226 when he hands it over, though!<br />
<br />
Makarov PM - used by Balalaika's bodyguard Boris and several other Hotel Moscow soldiers when they don't have AK's.<br />
<br />
Mossberg 590 - used by the first bounty hunter to break into the counterfeiter Jane's hotel room, and a few others. Clearly a Mossberg 590 due to the barrel shroud and tang safety (which oddly looks like a hammer to a Henry lever action rifle or something, rather than the real life safety).<br />
<br />
Remington 870 with extended magazine - used by various thugs in the series, in addition to Marine Magnums like the one Dutch uses.<br />
<br />
Winchester 1300 Defender/Ithaca 37 with extended magazine (?) - used by Yakuza in the bowling alley.<br />
<br />
M249 Para(?) - when Roberta drops her suitcase machine gun, it opens and for a brief second one can see a machine gun of some sort inside. It looks to me like a Minimi/M249 Para.<br />
<br />
NSV machine gun - the heavy machine gun used by Hotel Moscow to shoot at Hänsel and Gretel is one of these, I believe.<br />
<br />
there was a norinco type56 with synthetic furniture in episode three.<br />
<br />
a browning m2 on a dual mount in episode three.<br />
<br />
== What is this? ==<br />
<br />
Got another gun. Can anyone ID [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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[[Image:BLreva.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]<br />
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This picture is far to simple for it to be identified. It could be any number of revolvers.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]<br />
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== M249 ==<br />
<br />
I believe there's an M249 inside Roberta's suitcase<br />
<br />
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[[Image:BLM249.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]<br />
I think it was P90's in the manga<br />
<br />
<br />
There is also a Benelli M4 at the bottom.<br />
<br />
<br />
looks like a Defense Technologies 37mm Gas Gun is in the bottom of the case<br />
----<br />
"Rugers are seen as "bottom of the barrel" handguns." - According to what uneducated individual?<br />
<br />
This one. Not originally but I don't have a high opinion of them. Course their not as bad as a fucking Hi-point or some shit, i'd just rather have an M1911A1. Or a beretta 92FS. Or a Sig. Or an H&K.--[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 01:54, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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If the one on top is an M249, it rivals an AKSU is length. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:32, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== The "AMT long slides" ==<br />
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Couldn't they just be long barreled Custom M1911s like James Caan had in Thief?--[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 01:55, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Sistema?==<br />
There is no proof that her guns are Sistemas. Just because she is from South America doesn't mean she is not using one of the millions of M1911/M1911A1 pistols that are all over the world. This puts an obscure M1911 variant onto IMFDB with the thinnest of excuses. Please tell me there is more proof in the show as to what these pistols are. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Honestly, I don't know where I got the impression that they were Sistema 1911s. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:29, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: I believe it says such in the manga.-protoAuthor 07:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
::: At some point in the manga, you can see stamping on the supposed Sistemas' slides. I don't know guns well enough to tell by slide stamping, but the crest didn't look like the writing on the slide of the pictured Sistema.<br />
<br />
:Do you know which chapter and page we see these markings. Since the anime is based on the manga, it should be exactly the same. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:42, 2 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::http://www.onemanga.com/Black_Lagoon/4/01/ http://www.onemanga.com/Black_Lagoon/4/10/<br />
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Well, there's the proof. And since the Anime is based off the manga, it should remained classed as Sistemas. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:I'm new at this gun classification business, but I've been searching around and have yet to find a single Sistema pistol with slide markings that looked like that. I found some with crests, but they were located only on the right side of the pistol, between the text and the slide serrations. The manga shows a crest I can't identify towards the front of the slide, and I can't read the text on those scans. I really don't think they're explicitly Sistemas, though feel free to prove me wrong.<br />
<br />
I believe I read somewhere that Roberta used Argentinian Ballester Molina's, but I do not remember where I read that.<br />
<br />
==Annoying Picture Captions==<br />
<br />
Well I hope the title speaks for itself, but at any rate can the picture captions be fixed to something relevant to guns? Humor is alright in my book but the captions are just plain annoying and unnecessary.<br />
<br />
Well I agree SOME of the captions are a bit long to be funny, but I think most of them are ok. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
:They kind of fit with the whole show's attitude, really.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:And besides, they make me laugh. That's A+ in my book. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:50, 25 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Pistolet Maszynowy wz.63 AKA PM-63 Submachine gun==<br />
Guys, You know "Pistolet Maszynowy" in Polish mean "Submachine gun"...<br />
<br />
==More Guns ==<br />
In the second episode rock uses a Webley & Scott WWI Signal Pistol, and in episodes three and fourteen there are M2 Browning machine guns both single and in the twin mounted variant.<br />
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:I thought there is a picture of dual mounted M2s. I forgot about the flare pistol Rock used in episode 2. I didn't really see that as a firearm [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:27, 8 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== no Beretta==<br />
Revy is the only charter in the Anime using Beretta 92FS. Rex 095<br />
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Mr. Chang wields two Beretta 76 .22 LR claiber handguns in the manga in stade of Colt .45s.<br />
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he could use .22 claiber handguns so show how good of a markman he his to kill someone with one shot form a small claiber gun.<br />
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Or the creator behind the picking of the guns didn't know a .22 with a 9mm. But getting shot with a .22 and dying from it is a harder death [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Chang uses the Beretta 76's as his main weapon throughout the manga, the 1911's he uses in the one shootout are his bodygaurds backups. Rei Hiroe, the manga creator, knew that they were .22s from the beginning. It is mentioned in a later manga chapter, not released in the U.S. yet, that a couple of years before the manga takes place he and Balalaika had a shootout and she mentions getting hit with several .22 rounds.<br />
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: I know, I read the manga, translated online. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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== No manga ==<br />
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Until they make another season, do not post manga shots of guns that have not been in the anime so far like the grenade launcher and shotgun of the other maid. I have a manga shot of Roberta's spas-12 because I havent found a good shot of it in the Anime [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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: Why not? Who made you pope of wiki-town?<br />
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::He IS one of the admins, and there is a long-standing no print media rule. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 22:53, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: Well, that's a fucking retarded rule. There's tons of gun-heavy comics, mangas and books out there that could use this kind of treatment. Ever read a detective novel and wonder what the main character's gun's supposed to look like? Ever read a manga and wonder if that thing in the character's hand is real or just imagined by the artist?<br />
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::Hey [[Special:Contributions/72.244.206.60|User 72.244.206.60]]! Guess what? I don't care what rules you think are retarded or not. If you really want a Manga site then create your own Internet Manga Firearms Data Base then. Until then, dial back on your attitude or else. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:46, 21 March 2010 (UTC) (Another ADMIN here).....<br />
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But this site is Internet Movie Firearms Database. It implies movies, TV, anything on the screen, which can include games. Not books and manga. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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==Picture Error==<br />
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The second picture under the CZ-75 is incorrectly labeled as Takenaka shooting at Ibraha. He is in fact shooting at Revy during that scene.<br />
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== Hand Grenade ==<br />
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What kind of hand grenade is that appears in Episode 11? <br />
Mr. Chang kicks it back to the throwers in the gunfight with the militia men... [[User:Flinx|Flinx]] 20:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Revy's Berettas ==<br />
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I was rewatching the anime the other day and in the opening credits there is a view of Revy's Berettas and the markings say 92F not FS.<br />
:The problem is the the only Inox that is listed is the FS one. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:52, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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There was never a 92F offered in stainless steel, the only stainless Beretta 92 Series pistols are post 92F. It can be assumed that her pistols are stock Beretta 92F's that have just been heavily customized and finished with either nickel or chrome plating (the have never declared the guns were stainless steel in the anime as far as I can remember so that is still possible). This theory is further strengthened since her guns don't possess factory style rollmarks (which makes sense since they don't have factory length slide assemblies), and she refers to one of them as "a Beretta M92 Custom, the Praiyachat Sword Cutlass Special" at the end of Episode 23. Either it is a custom gun from the ground up, which isn't too farfetched, or it's an error on the animator's and Hiroe's part (who based the guns on the Taurus PT92s from Romeo + Juliet) which seems more likely. Still, the customization thing is a good and solid explanation of why they say 92F and not 92FS. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 06:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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So what should we call Revy's gun? A Custom 92? 19:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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That is a problem. Should we link it to the 92F with a note that it is probably chrome or nickel plated? [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 19:51, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I would do that, and keep the Sword Cutlass image up there as well. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 05:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Missed Guns ==<br />
I spotted a few guns not in the article, both from Season 2 Episode 2. Hansel carries a pair of what I think are Smith and Wesson Bodyguards in a dual shoulder rig under his coat, and Verrochio draws a Beretta 92 at one point when confronting the Twins. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 23:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Technically the second season is lumped in with the first, so I am assuming you are talking about the 14th episode. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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And looking at them now, they seem too small to be S&W Bodyguards and Verrochio doesn't look like he's holding a 92. Caps are below to compare. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I don't know. They look an awful lot like S&W Bodyguards but could also be Centennial models. As for Verrochio's gun looks like a Taurs PT-92 to me. Looks like it has a frame mounted safety.[[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 05:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The slide doesn't fit the profile of a 92. Look at Revy's gun and compared it to this gun. It's too flat and we don't see the smooth exposed barrel [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:24, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The very end looks like a nubbin of an exposed barrel along with the slide shape, and cocking serrations looks like maybe a poorly drawn version of the PT-92. It just doesn't look enough like anything else to me. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 15:03, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It's a [http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg101-e.htm Bernardelli P-018]--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 15:04, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Pretty sure PistolJunkie just nailed that one. -- K[[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 18:54, 30 September 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Black_Lagoon&diff=335756Talk:Black Lagoon2010-09-29T23:51:21Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>If anyone knows more than me, feel free to add, It's a free wiki site after all.<br />
:'''*Notice* The third season is only going to be available on video, so that it will not be edited for television-S&Wshooter'''<br />
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== Unknown handgun ==<br />
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I am putting this gun here before I post it in the main page until I find out what it is. Anyone know?<br />
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[[Image:BLOVAgun.jpg|thumb|none|700px|]]<br />
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It looks like a Taurus Pt92.<br />
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What makes you say that? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:55, 31 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The cocking seration at the rear of the slide looks rather wide.<br />
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Then it could just be a Beretta 92 series [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== OVA 1 ==<br />
add some OVA1 pic,and have a unknow shotgun at OVA1 --[[User:Kin93|Kin93]] 18:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Are they GOOD quality? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I have replaced ALL of the OVA caps with my own that are from a high quality 1280x720 H264 AAC version. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== APS Assault Rifle ==<br />
The APS underwater assault rifle was design to function both above and under water, just as any other projectile weapons designed to function under water (H&K P11 for example can function properly above water, with even better range than under water). Therefore, it's not really strange that Revy was able to fire the APS in the sub.<br />
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== MG3 ==<br />
You state in the article that the MG3 was never fired in the show, but actually it was. The Nazis had an MG3 mounted on the side of their ship, and it was used to fire at Revy & Rock when they surfaced.--[[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] 02:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Desert Eagle ==<br />
just an observation: Yolanda's desert eagly is probly the .357 varient- notice the size of the bore compared to her trigger-finger. unless she had rather large hands (and by large i mean half-inch diameter sausage fingers) it probaly wasnt the .50 action express version. -Dakota the Wolf 01 Sept. 2008<br />
:Never, ever, ever use the term "DEagle" on this sight. That is amatuer gamer slang. It is a Desert Eagle, not a DEagle. It's almost as bad as calling a magazine a "clip". - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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Chang's Beretta 76s could be back up guns.<br />
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wasnt there a desert eagle in the bar shootout in the first episode used by the leader.<br />
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== Unknown MG ==<br />
I'm pretty sure it is a member of the DShK family of Russian 12.7mm heavy machine guns.<br />
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-Actually, I think it is an NSV heavy machine gun.<br />
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== Gepard? ==<br />
Revy's heavy sniper rifle resembles a Gepard pretty clearly in the manga. The anime version doesn't exactly match any of the images I can find of the weapon - possibly the animators aren't very familiar with it either, or maybe they have access to better sources.<br />
==Manga==<br />
: I read the whole of the manga in 2 days(starting yesterday) and My God it was the most amazing comic experience I have yet to experience.I was actually sad when I came to the end of the latest chapter and am now waiting for Rei Hiroe to upload more. -[[User:S&amp;Wshooter|S&amp;Wshooter]] 05:49, 13 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I've been reading the manga too. This is a great series [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 15:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::It's pretty good, though I prefer Gunsmith Cats.-protoAuthor<br />
I've only had a couple issues between the Manga and the Anime. the Anime has everything out of order and there are guns that are in the Manga that are subsequently not in the Anime. Like the PT92 that Revy uses after onew of her Cutlasses are cut in half. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 00:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== More Guns ==<br />
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Hey, I recently watched the series, and noticed some guns not present in this list.<br />
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Glock - used by bounty hunters/mercenaries, most clearly seen in the part where the bounty hunters are chasing the counterfeiter and during the ensuing gunfight on the PT boat.<br />
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Browning HP type handgun- used by Yakuza, possibly other characters -seen clearly in the last episode where it's the first handgun Kosa's bodyguard hands over to Balalaika's bodyguard. Strangely it changes into a Sig Sauer P226 when he hands it over, though!<br />
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Makarov PM - used by Balalaika's bodyguard Boris and several other Hotel Moscow soldiers when they don't have AK's.<br />
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Mossberg 590 - used by the first bounty hunter to break into the counterfeiter Jane's hotel room, and a few others. Clearly a Mossberg 590 due to the barrel shroud and tang safety (which oddly looks like a hammer to a Henry lever action rifle or something, rather than the real life safety).<br />
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Remington 870 with extended magazine - used by various thugs in the series, in addition to Marine Magnums like the one Dutch uses.<br />
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Winchester 1300 Defender/Ithaca 37 with extended magazine (?) - used by Yakuza in the bowling alley.<br />
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M249 Para(?) - when Roberta drops her suitcase machine gun, it opens and for a brief second one can see a machine gun of some sort inside. It looks to me like a Minimi/M249 Para.<br />
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NSV machine gun - the heavy machine gun used by Hotel Moscow to shoot at Hänsel and Gretel is one of these, I believe.<br />
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there was a norinco type56 with synthetic furniture in episode three.<br />
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a browning m2 on a dual mount in episode three.<br />
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== What is this? ==<br />
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Got another gun. Can anyone ID [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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[[Image:BLreva.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]<br />
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This picture is far to simple for it to be identified. It could be any number of revolvers.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]<br />
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== M249 ==<br />
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I believe there's an M249 inside Roberta's suitcase<br />
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I think it was P90's in the manga<br />
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There is also a Benelli M4 at the bottom.<br />
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looks like a Defense Technologies 37mm Gas Gun is in the bottom of the case<br />
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"Rugers are seen as "bottom of the barrel" handguns." - According to what uneducated individual?<br />
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This one. Not originally but I don't have a high opinion of them. Course their not as bad as a fucking Hi-point or some shit, i'd just rather have an M1911A1. Or a beretta 92FS. Or a Sig. Or an H&K.--[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 01:54, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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If the one on top is an M249, it rivals an AKSU is length. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:32, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== The "AMT long slides" ==<br />
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Couldn't they just be long barreled Custom M1911s like James Caan had in Thief?--[[User:ConditionNone|ConditionNone]] 01:55, 21 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Sistema?==<br />
There is no proof that her guns are Sistemas. Just because she is from South America doesn't mean she is not using one of the millions of M1911/M1911A1 pistols that are all over the world. This puts an obscure M1911 variant onto IMFDB with the thinnest of excuses. Please tell me there is more proof in the show as to what these pistols are. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Honestly, I don't know where I got the impression that they were Sistema 1911s. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 03:29, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: I believe it says such in the manga.-protoAuthor 07:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
::: At some point in the manga, you can see stamping on the supposed Sistemas' slides. I don't know guns well enough to tell by slide stamping, but the crest didn't look like the writing on the slide of the pictured Sistema.<br />
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:Do you know which chapter and page we see these markings. Since the anime is based on the manga, it should be exactly the same. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:42, 2 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::http://www.onemanga.com/Black_Lagoon/4/01/ http://www.onemanga.com/Black_Lagoon/4/10/<br />
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Well, there's the proof. And since the Anime is based off the manga, it should remained classed as Sistemas. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:I'm new at this gun classification business, but I've been searching around and have yet to find a single Sistema pistol with slide markings that looked like that. I found some with crests, but they were located only on the right side of the pistol, between the text and the slide serrations. The manga shows a crest I can't identify towards the front of the slide, and I can't read the text on those scans. I really don't think they're explicitly Sistemas, though feel free to prove me wrong.<br />
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I believe I read somewhere that Roberta used Argentinian Ballester Molina's, but I do not remember where I read that.<br />
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==Annoying Picture Captions==<br />
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Well I hope the title speaks for itself, but at any rate can the picture captions be fixed to something relevant to guns? Humor is alright in my book but the captions are just plain annoying and unnecessary.<br />
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Well I agree SOME of the captions are a bit long to be funny, but I think most of them are ok. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
:They kind of fit with the whole show's attitude, really.--[[User:PistolJunkie|PistolJunkie]] 05:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:And besides, they make me laugh. That's A+ in my book. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:50, 25 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Pistolet Maszynowy wz.63 AKA PM-63 Submachine gun==<br />
Guys, You know "Pistolet Maszynowy" in Polish mean "Submachine gun"...<br />
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==More Guns ==<br />
In the second episode rock uses a Webley & Scott WWI Signal Pistol, and in episodes three and fourteen there are M2 Browning machine guns both single and in the twin mounted variant.<br />
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:I thought there is a picture of dual mounted M2s. I forgot about the flare pistol Rock used in episode 2. I didn't really see that as a firearm [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:27, 8 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== no Beretta==<br />
Revy is the only charter in the Anime using Beretta 92FS. Rex 095<br />
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Mr. Chang wields two Beretta 76 .22 LR claiber handguns in the manga in stade of Colt .45s.<br />
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he could use .22 claiber handguns so show how good of a markman he his to kill someone with one shot form a small claiber gun.<br />
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Or the creator behind the picking of the guns didn't know a .22 with a 9mm. But getting shot with a .22 and dying from it is a harder death [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 00:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Chang uses the Beretta 76's as his main weapon throughout the manga, the 1911's he uses in the one shootout are his bodygaurds backups. Rei Hiroe, the manga creator, knew that they were .22s from the beginning. It is mentioned in a later manga chapter, not released in the U.S. yet, that a couple of years before the manga takes place he and Balalaika had a shootout and she mentions getting hit with several .22 rounds.<br />
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: I know, I read the manga, translated online. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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== No manga ==<br />
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Until they make another season, do not post manga shots of guns that have not been in the anime so far like the grenade launcher and shotgun of the other maid. I have a manga shot of Roberta's spas-12 because I havent found a good shot of it in the Anime [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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: Why not? Who made you pope of wiki-town?<br />
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::He IS one of the admins, and there is a long-standing no print media rule. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 22:53, 12 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: Well, that's a fucking retarded rule. There's tons of gun-heavy comics, mangas and books out there that could use this kind of treatment. Ever read a detective novel and wonder what the main character's gun's supposed to look like? Ever read a manga and wonder if that thing in the character's hand is real or just imagined by the artist?<br />
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::Hey [[Special:Contributions/72.244.206.60|User 72.244.206.60]]! Guess what? I don't care what rules you think are retarded or not. If you really want a Manga site then create your own Internet Manga Firearms Data Base then. Until then, dial back on your attitude or else. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:46, 21 March 2010 (UTC) (Another ADMIN here).....<br />
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But this site is Internet Movie Firearms Database. It implies movies, TV, anything on the screen, which can include games. Not books and manga. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]<br />
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==Picture Error==<br />
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The second picture under the CZ-75 is incorrectly labeled as Takenaka shooting at Ibraha. He is in fact shooting at Revy during that scene.<br />
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== Hand Grenade ==<br />
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What kind of hand grenade is that appears in Episode 11? <br />
Mr. Chang kicks it back to the throwers in the gunfight with the militia men... [[User:Flinx|Flinx]] 20:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Revy's Berettas ==<br />
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I was rewatching the anime the other day and in the opening credits there is a view of Revy's Berettas and the markings say 92F not FS.<br />
:The problem is the the only Inox that is listed is the FS one. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:52, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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There was never a 92F offered in stainless steel, the only stainless Beretta 92 Series pistols are post 92F. It can be assumed that her pistols are stock Beretta 92F's that have just been heavily customized and finished with either nickel or chrome plating (the have never declared the guns were stainless steel in the anime as far as I can remember so that is still possible). This theory is further strengthened since her guns don't possess factory style rollmarks (which makes sense since they don't have factory length slide assemblies), and she refers to one of them as "a Beretta M92 Custom, the Praiyachat Sword Cutlass Special" at the end of Episode 23. Either it is a custom gun from the ground up, which isn't too farfetched, or it's an error on the animator's and Hiroe's part (who based the guns on the Taurus PT92s from Romeo + Juliet) which seems more likely. Still, the customization thing is a good and solid explanation of why they say 92F and not 92FS. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 06:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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So what should we call Revy's gun? A Custom 92? 19:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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That is a problem. Should we link it to the 92F with a note that it is probably chrome or nickel plated? [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 19:51, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I would do that, and keep the Sword Cutlass image up there as well. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 05:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Missed Guns ==<br />
I spotted a few guns not in the article, both from Season 2 Episode 2. Hansel carries a pair of what I think are Smith and Wesson Bodyguards in a dual shoulder rig under his coat, and Verrochio draws a Beretta 92 at one point when confronting the Twins. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 23:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Wet&diff=335238Talk:Wet2010-09-28T22:13:28Z<p>98.118.59.151: New page: The Jericho 941, if memory serves, looks more like one of the Taurus semi-autos. -- K ~~~~</p>
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<div>The Jericho 941, if memory serves, looks more like one of the Taurus semi-autos. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 22:13, 28 September 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Battlefield_Heroes&diff=334094Talk:Battlefield Heroes2010-09-26T14:47:34Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>I will revamp and provide screencaps for this page as soon as possible as most of the info is inaccurate. Can't believe what the creator did: put Team Fortress 2 info even though the article is about something else. I don't think I can get much done due to the high costs of the weapons and expensive battlefunds. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 02:32, 26 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'll see what I can do. [[User:Ramell|Ramell]] 13:00, 26 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not done yet, but how does this look? [[User:Ramell|Ramell]] 13:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Does it really need all that fluff about the factions and classes? -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 14:47, 26 September 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Strike_Witches&diff=333647Strike Witches2010-09-25T14:35:27Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>Strike Witches is a mixed-media project originally created by Humikane Shimada via a series of magazine illustration columns. It was later adapted into two light novel series, two manga series, an anime OVA, and a televised anime series. The story revolves around teenage girls who are essentially moe anthropomorphizations of military planes. The OVA preview episode was released on January 1, 2007. The televised anime series later premiered on July 3, 2008, concluding September 18. Official confirmation of a second season of the anime was announced on February 27, 2009, and the second season ended September 22, 2010.<br />
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'''The following guns can be seen in the anime Strike Witches:'''<br />
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[[Image:Strike-witches.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Strike Witches '''(2008-present)''''']]<br />
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==STEN==<br />
[[Sten]] Mk. II submachine guns are used by British troops who replace the Strike Witches with the Warlock unit. They use shoulder straps pulled tight rather than the stock, presumably to allow better accuracy when hip-fired.<br />
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[[Image:Sten.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sten Mk II submachine gun 9x19mm Parabellum]]<br />
[[Image:SWSTEN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers and their STENs. The man in the officer's uniform is based on real-life RAF commander Lord Hugh Dowding.]] <br />
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[[Image:SWSTEN4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers encircle the witches.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN5.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke, showing admirable calm despite being held at gunpoint by British troops.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN6.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A soldier confiscates Sakamoto's katana, STEN slung over his shoulder.]]<br />
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==Walther PPK/S==<br />
A [[Walther PPK]] is issued to Miyafuji when she first arrives in Britannia. She refuses it, however, stating a dislike for firearms. Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke carries one on her person, and is notably seen using it to threaten Sakamoto. It can be assumed that most, if not all, of the witches were issued a PPK upon their arrival at the base.<br />
<br />
[[Image:PPK_stainless.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walther PPK - .380 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:SWPPKS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The PPK lies on top of a box containing Yoshika's personal effects. Note the Walther logo, and that the safety is on.]] <br />
[[Image:SWPPKS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika returns the PPK, stating that she dislikes guns.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna draws her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Minna_ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna aims her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk_barrel.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup of the PPK's barrel, note the Walther logo.]]<br />
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==MG42==<br />
The [[MG42]] is carried by most members of the 501st JFW. Due to her strength ability, Gertrud Barkhorn prefers using two MG-42s at once, often with devastating effect. Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen prefers the MG-42 to her heavier [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#Suomi M31|Suomi M31 SMG]], and Minna likes the "balance of power and stability." Erica prefers it to her [[MP40]] sidearm because "it shoots fast and rarely stops working." All Strike Witches MG-42s are modified to use 75 round MG-34 type double-drum magazines. <br />
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[[Image:MG42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[MG42]] 7.92 x 57mm Mauser (8mm Mauser)]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna and Erica Hartmann with their MG-42s, whereas Charlotte Yeager carries her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The witches prepare for battle. Note Barkhorn wielding two MG-42s akimbo.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG422.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica opens fire with her MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG423.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen, using an MG-42 in battle.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG424.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica lays down fire with the MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG425.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Barkhorn with her dual MG-42s.]]<br />
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==BREN==<br />
A [[Bren gun]] is carried by Perrine Clostermann. She states that she would prefer to use a [[Chatellerault M1924/29]], but is unable to obtain one. Instead, she uses the BREN, which is similar to the Chatellerault in many aspects but is presumably easier to obtain in Britannia.<br />
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[[Image:Bren_mk2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bren - .303 British]]<br />
[[Image:SWBREN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Perrine with her BREN gun.]]<br />
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==Boys Anti-Tank Rifle==<br />
Carried by Lynette Bishop in her role as the squad's designated marksman. While she uses a Boys Mk. I, she has switched the muzzle brake to that of a Mk. II, which according to her makes it easier to use.<br />
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[[Image:SWBOYS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lynette takes a shot with her Boys, while Sanya holds her custom Fliegerhammer.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBOYS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]]<br />
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==Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR)==<br />
A [[Browning Automatic Rifle]] is carried by Charlotte Yeager. Shirley actually dislikes the gun for the most part, citing the relatively small ammo capacity, even with the custom 40 round magazines she uses. She also dislikes the fixed barrel, which she can't replace if the gun overheats (though she admits somewhat sarcastically that this is unlikely due to the ammo capacity.) The one aspect Shirley does like about the BAR is it's durability, stating it can be used even if one doesn't take much care of it.<br />
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[[Image:BAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley (on the left) with her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley fires her BAR...while upside-down.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1919.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A beautful shot of Shirley's BAR. Also, note Luchinni with the M1919.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBARMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley carries her BAR while Erica carries it's nemesis, the MG-42.]]<br />
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==M1919A6==<br />
A [[Browning M1919]] A6 is carried by Francesca Lucchini. It was given to her by Shirley after she misplaced the Italian weapons she brought to Britannia with her. Francesca states that she likes the gun because of the high rate of fire, durability, and high ammo capacity.<br />
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[[Image:M1919a6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1919A6 .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW19191.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lucchini and Eila dodge incoming fire.]] <br />
[[Image:SW19192.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SW19193.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another beautifully clear shot, this time of Lucchini's M1919. Note the box magazine and shoulder stock.]]<br />
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==Type 99-1 Cannon==<br />
The Japanese Type 99-1 cannon in flexible mount configuration is used by both Sakamoto Mio and Yoshika Miyafuji. It has been modified to utilize a conventional pistol grip more suitable for dismounted use.<br />
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[[image:Type_99-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Type 99-1 20mm cannon.]]<br />
[[Image:SWT991.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika demonstrates good trigger discipline with her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT992.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The Type 99-1 rests in a specially made cradle inside the hangar.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT994.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Mio Sakamoto fires her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT995.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika aims her Type 99-1.]]<br />
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==Fliegerhammer (modified Fliegerfaust)==<br />
Carried by Sanya V. Litvyak. It is based on the design of a Fliegerfaust, with the 9 round capacity of a Fliegerfaust B. Sanya is able to channel her magic into the weapon, thereby making the rockets more powerful. The Fliegerhammer is also capable of something resembling automatic fire, in that the operator can fire one rocket after another simply by holding down the trigger.<br />
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[[Image:SWRPG.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Sanya prepares to fire the Fliegerhammer. Underestimating a cute girl with a 9 shot rocket launcher is likely one of the last mistakes you'll ever make.]]<br />
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fliegerfaust] Wikipedia page for the real life Fliegerfaust, similar to Sanya's Fliegerhammer.<br />
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==Nambu Type 14==<br />
A [[Nambu Type 14 Pistol]] is used in Season 2 Episode 2 by Mio's assistant to help her test the abilities of her shield.<br />
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[[Image:NambuType14Pistol.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Nambu Type 14 8x22mm Nambu]]<br />
[[Image:Nambu.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mio's assistant fires the Nambu.]]<br />
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==MG34==<br />
An [[MG34]] is used by Hanna Justina Marseille as her primary weapon.<br />
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[[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with front and rear sights folded down]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15witches.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica open fire. Notice that Hanna uses the bipod on her weapon as a foregrip.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup on the MG34's barrel.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna holds the MG34.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica face off.]]<br />
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[[Category:Anime Series]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_Red_Spectacles&diff=330049The Red Spectacles2010-09-18T00:37:12Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* C96 (or derivative, more likely) */</p>
<hr />
<div>'''The Film ''The Red Spectacle''s had the following firearms in it:'''<br />
[[Image:Akaimeganetheater.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Red Spectacles'' (1987)]]<br />
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'''-note, being that this was filmed in Japan none of the firearms are real and are most likely capfiring blowback replicas.'''<br />
<br />
''See Also: [[Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade]]''<br />
<br />
== MG34 ==<br />
The [[MG34]] is the primary weapon of the Kerberos squad.<br />
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MG34 7.92x57mm]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 517.JPG|thumb|600px|none]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 507.JPG|thumb|600px|none]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 529.JPG|thumb|600px|none]]<br />
<br />
== C96 (or derivative, more likely) ==<br />
The [[C96]] is the sidearm weapon of the Kerberos squad, also seen other places in the movie.<br />
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser C96 7.63x25mm Mauser]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 520.JPG|thumb|600px|none|A good shot of the C96 mid-firing]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 528.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Another good shot of the C96 being reloaded.]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 537.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Man...That's a dirty fridge.]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 539.JPG|thumb|600px|none|It appears Kim Jong Il is now doing his own assassinations.]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 542.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Typical Japanese weirdness, amirite?]]<br />
<br />
== MAC-11 ==<br />
The [[MAC-11]] is seen in the opening shoot-out.<br />
[[Image:Mac m11 9k.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MAC-11]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 509.JPG|thumb|none|600px|A man fires a MAC-10. An MGC16 is also seen in this shot]]<br />
<br />
== MP5SD ==<br />
The [[MP5SD]] is seen in the opening shootout.<br />
[[Image:MP5SD3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MP5SD]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 512.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Hard to see, but man has an MP5SD of an unknown variant.]]<br />
<br />
== MGC M16 Replica==<br />
An [[MGC M16]] replica is seen in the opening shootout.<br />
[[Image:MGC16.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MGC M16 replica]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 509.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An MGC16 is seen in this shot on the left]]<br />
<br />
== Beretta Model 12 ==<br />
A spec-ops squad sent to kill the main character use [[Beretta M12]]s.<br />
The main character commandeers one of them and fires it at the Spec-ops.<br />
[[Image:BerettaPM12S.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Beretta M12 9x19mm Parabellum]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 533.JPG|thumb|600px|none|A great shot of the Beretta Model 12 ejecting brass]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 536.JPG|thumb|600px|none|This movie has some really artsy shots.]]<br />
<br />
== Uzi ==<br />
An [[Uzi]] is seen in the aftermath of the opening shootout.<br />
[[Image:PDVD 530.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Top right corner]]<br />
<br />
== Thompson M1928 ==<br />
A guard outside the illegal noodle stand is seen with a [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928 Thompson]].<br />
[[Image:M1928.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1928 "Tommy Gun" - .45 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:Redspectacles19281.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The guard holds the Thompson in his lap. Despite the shadows, the weapon's iconic drum magazine is clearly visible.]]<br />
[[Image:Redspectacles19282.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The guard shifts his Thopmson, offering us a glimpse of the 1928's signature vertical foregrip and Cutts compensator]]<br />
<br />
== M1911 ==<br />
The cook running the illegal noodle stand has a [[M1911 pistol series|M1911]] tucked in the strap of his apron.<br />
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original Colt M1911 - .45 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:Redspectacles1911.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]<br />
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[[Category:Japan produced/filmed]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_Red_Spectacles&diff=330047The Red Spectacles2010-09-18T00:36:13Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* C96 (or derivative, more likely) */</p>
<hr />
<div>'''The Film ''The Red Spectacle''s had the following firearms in it:'''<br />
[[Image:Akaimeganetheater.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Red Spectacles'' (1987)]]<br />
<br />
'''-note, being that this was filmed in Japan none of the firearms are real and are most likely capfiring blowback replicas.'''<br />
<br />
''See Also: [[Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade]]''<br />
<br />
== MG34 ==<br />
The [[MG34]] is the primary weapon of the Kerberos squad.<br />
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MG34 7.92x57mm]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 517.JPG|thumb|600px|none]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 507.JPG|thumb|600px|none]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 529.JPG|thumb|600px|none]]<br />
<br />
== C96 (or derivative, more likely) ==<br />
The [[C96]] is the sidearm weapon of the Kerberos squad, also seen other places in the movie.<br />
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser C96 7.63x25mm Mauser]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 520.JPG|thumb|600px|none|A good shot of the C96 mid-firing]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 528.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Another good shot of the C96 being reloaded.]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 537.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Man...That's a dirty fridge.]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 539.JPG|thumb|600px|none|It appears Kim Jong Il is getting more hands on.]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 542.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Typical Japanese weirdness, amirite?]]<br />
<br />
== MAC-11 ==<br />
The [[MAC-11]] is seen in the opening shoot-out.<br />
[[Image:Mac m11 9k.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MAC-11]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 509.JPG|thumb|none|600px|A man fires a MAC-10. An MGC16 is also seen in this shot]]<br />
<br />
== MP5SD ==<br />
The [[MP5SD]] is seen in the opening shootout.<br />
[[Image:MP5SD3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MP5SD]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 512.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Hard to see, but man has an MP5SD of an unknown variant.]]<br />
<br />
== MGC M16 Replica==<br />
An [[MGC M16]] replica is seen in the opening shootout.<br />
[[Image:MGC16.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MGC M16 replica]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 509.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An MGC16 is seen in this shot on the left]]<br />
<br />
== Beretta Model 12 ==<br />
A spec-ops squad sent to kill the main character use [[Beretta M12]]s.<br />
The main character commandeers one of them and fires it at the Spec-ops.<br />
[[Image:BerettaPM12S.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Beretta M12 9x19mm Parabellum]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 533.JPG|thumb|600px|none|A great shot of the Beretta Model 12 ejecting brass]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 536.JPG|thumb|600px|none|This movie has some really artsy shots.]]<br />
<br />
== Uzi ==<br />
An [[Uzi]] is seen in the aftermath of the opening shootout.<br />
[[Image:PDVD 530.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Top right corner]]<br />
<br />
== Thompson M1928 ==<br />
A guard outside the illegal noodle stand is seen with a [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928 Thompson]].<br />
[[Image:M1928.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1928 "Tommy Gun" - .45 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:Redspectacles19281.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The guard holds the Thompson in his lap. Despite the shadows, the weapon's iconic drum magazine is clearly visible.]]<br />
[[Image:Redspectacles19282.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The guard shifts his Thopmson, offering us a glimpse of the 1928's signature vertical foregrip and Cutts compensator]]<br />
<br />
== M1911 ==<br />
The cook running the illegal noodle stand has a [[M1911 pistol series|M1911]] tucked in the strap of his apron.<br />
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original Colt M1911 - .45 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:Redspectacles1911.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]<br />
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[[category:Movie]]<br />
[[Category:Japan produced/filmed]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_Red_Spectacles&diff=330044The Red Spectacles2010-09-18T00:35:32Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* C96 (or derivative, more likely) */</p>
<hr />
<div>'''The Film ''The Red Spectacle''s had the following firearms in it:'''<br />
[[Image:Akaimeganetheater.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''The Red Spectacles'' (1987)]]<br />
<br />
'''-note, being that this was filmed in Japan none of the firearms are real and are most likely capfiring blowback replicas.'''<br />
<br />
''See Also: [[Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade]]''<br />
<br />
== MG34 ==<br />
The [[MG34]] is the primary weapon of the Kerberos squad.<br />
[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MG34 7.92x57mm]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 517.JPG|thumb|600px|none]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 507.JPG|thumb|600px|none]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 529.JPG|thumb|600px|none]]<br />
<br />
== C96 (or derivative, more likely) ==<br />
The [[C96]] is the sidearm weapon of the Kerberos squad, also seen other places in the movie.<br />
[[Image:C96Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser C96 7.63x25mm Mauser]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 520.JPG|thumb|600px|none|A good shot of the C96 mid-firing]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 528.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Another good shot of the C96 being reloaded.]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 537.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Man...That's a dirty fridge.]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 539.JPG|thumb|600px|none]It appears Kim Jon Il is now doing his own dirty work.]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 542.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Typical Japanese weirdness, amirite?]]<br />
<br />
== MAC-11 ==<br />
The [[MAC-11]] is seen in the opening shoot-out.<br />
[[Image:Mac m11 9k.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MAC-11]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 509.JPG|thumb|none|600px|A man fires a MAC-10. An MGC16 is also seen in this shot]]<br />
<br />
== MP5SD ==<br />
The [[MP5SD]] is seen in the opening shootout.<br />
[[Image:MP5SD3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MP5SD]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 512.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Hard to see, but man has an MP5SD of an unknown variant.]]<br />
<br />
== MGC M16 Replica==<br />
An [[MGC M16]] replica is seen in the opening shootout.<br />
[[Image:MGC16.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MGC M16 replica]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 509.JPG|thumb|none|600px|An MGC16 is seen in this shot on the left]]<br />
<br />
== Beretta Model 12 ==<br />
A spec-ops squad sent to kill the main character use [[Beretta M12]]s.<br />
The main character commandeers one of them and fires it at the Spec-ops.<br />
[[Image:BerettaPM12S.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Beretta M12 9x19mm Parabellum]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 533.JPG|thumb|600px|none|A great shot of the Beretta Model 12 ejecting brass]]<br />
[[Image:PDVD 536.JPG|thumb|600px|none|This movie has some really artsy shots.]]<br />
<br />
== Uzi ==<br />
An [[Uzi]] is seen in the aftermath of the opening shootout.<br />
[[Image:PDVD 530.JPG|thumb|600px|none|Top right corner]]<br />
<br />
== Thompson M1928 ==<br />
A guard outside the illegal noodle stand is seen with a [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928 Thompson]].<br />
[[Image:M1928.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1928 "Tommy Gun" - .45 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:Redspectacles19281.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The guard holds the Thompson in his lap. Despite the shadows, the weapon's iconic drum magazine is clearly visible.]]<br />
[[Image:Redspectacles19282.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The guard shifts his Thopmson, offering us a glimpse of the 1928's signature vertical foregrip and Cutts compensator]]<br />
<br />
== M1911 ==<br />
The cook running the illegal noodle stand has a [[M1911 pistol series|M1911]] tucked in the strap of his apron.<br />
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Original Colt M1911 - .45 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:Redspectacles1911.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]<br />
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[[category:Movie]]<br />
[[Category:Japan produced/filmed]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Town&diff=329350Talk:The Town2010-09-16T17:57:37Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Unknowns */</p>
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<div>==Unknowns==<br />
[[Image:Town-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jem (Jeremy Renner) fires a pistol.]]<br />
:Looks like a USP. -[[User:The_Winchester|Dr. Awesome]]<br />
:I agree, i think it's a USP Compact. -Scott; August 12th 2010<br />
Am I the only one who thinks this movie looks like it will be awesome? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]<br />
::Plus also this page is the talk of The Town. Puns are awesome.<br />
And am I the only one who thinks that these guys are, like, alarmingly well-equipped for bank robbers? I WISH it were that easy to get a full-auto HK416. :(<br />
:::Even if the registry was reopened you would still have a hard time getting one. HK would go out of their way to somehow stop that.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
Keep in mind that this is MASSACHUSETTS that the movie is set in. Strictest gun laws ever. SKS rifles aren't even allowed to be purchased inside the Boston city limits. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 10:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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You know I have to admit I was thinking the same thing myself in regards to the weapons used by this crew and those in other movies like [[Heat]] or something. Where are these guys getting their firepower? HK's 416 is strictly in use by SOCOM or SWAT units. Sure the argument can be made they are acquiring some stuff on the "black market" but...come on!!! --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Heat actually made more sense than this one. AR-15 carbines are relatively easy to convert with drop in parts, Sigs and HK pistols are easy to find, and a semi-automatic HK 91 are nothing compared to an HK 416. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 00:56, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well to stretch it, we can say this movie takes place during a time when the HK416's civilian variant has been released already and like in Heat, the character bought the civilian variant and put in a drop in auto conversion. It IS a stretch, but at least my theory explains how they at least got a hold of a 416. <br />
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Oh and to the guy up there saying that because this movie takes place in Massachusetts with the strictest gun laws ever doesn't mean ANYTHING to bank robbers or criminal in general. They coulda bought their guns outside of the state, transported them back to Massachusetts and then made them full auto. This is the fact showing that gun control in one state doesn't matter when all you have to do is go to the neighboring state. I mean, what's H&K really going to do when they find out that someone is using their guns in a bank robbery? You really think the gun company would go out of their way to make sure their name isn't tarnished when police have problem finding high profile criminals? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:25, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I should know what you can and can't do in MA, seeing as I live there. :P You can't even buy a handgun in Boston with a magazine that can hold more than ten rounds, any shotgun with a revolving cylinder and/or a capacity exceeding six rounds, a semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 10 rounds, any SKS, AK47, UZI, AR-15, Steyr AUG, FN-FAL, and FN-FNC rifle. I agree, your point is valid, but there's no need to sound all snippy about it. all I was saying is that obtaining that level of weaponry would be a fairly difficult task. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 21:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I wasn't trying to be "snippy". You're just reading my text in that tone. I was just being informative on how things work to the criminal mind. They don't follow the law or any rules at all. You really think a magazine limit will stop a criminal from committing crime? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Haha absolutely not, and in that respect, most, if not all, firearms laws are a joke. Sorry if I took that the wrong way, no hard feelings. :) -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 17:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
And just as another stretch, it IS possible to get the HK USC, with is the civilian UMP and customize it to function like a UMP, but the best theory on why all the hard to get weapons is they most likely stole them from the Police. I mean, there are many departments that uses the UMP and there are some out there that do have the HK416. It wouldn't be TOO hard to believe they ambushed a cop car and stole their weapons or broke into a police armory. They seem to be good at breaking in and disguising themselves. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:32, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Yahoo Movies==<br />
Yahoo Movies has some pictures.<br />
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/2274/the-town-stills#photo6<br />
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/2274/the-town-stills#photo37<br />
<br />
== Jimmy O? ==<br />
<br />
Is it just me or is that cop with the wooden stocked 870 played by Titus Welliver, who plays Jimmy O'Phelan on Sons of Anarchy<br />
[[User:ShootingLiberal|ShootingLiberal]] 00:50, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah that's him. He was in Affleck's Gone Baby Gone also.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:34, 16 September 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Town&diff=329349Talk:The Town2010-09-16T17:57:16Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Unknowns */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Unknowns==<br />
[[Image:Town-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jem (Jeremy Renner) fires a pistol.]]<br />
:Looks like a USP. -[[User:The_Winchester|Dr. Awesome]]<br />
:I agree, i think it's a USP Compact. -Scott; August 12th 2010<br />
Am I the only one who thinks this movie looks like it will be awesome? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]<br />
::Plus also this page is the talk of The Town. Puns are awesome.<br />
And am I the only one who thinks that these guys are, like, alarmingly well-equipped for bank robbers? I WISH it were that easy to get a full-auto HK416. :(<br />
:::Even if the registry was reopened you would still have a hard time getting one. HK would go out of their way to somehow stop that.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
Keep in mind that this is MASSACHUSETTS that the movie is set in. Strictest gun laws ever. SKS rifles aren't even allowed to be purchased inside the Boston city limits. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 10:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
You know I have to admit I was thinking the same thing myself in regards to the weapons used by this crew and those in other movies like [[Heat]] or something. Where are these guys getting their firepower? HK's 416 is strictly in use by SOCOM or SWAT units. Sure the argument can be made they are acquiring some stuff on the "black market" but...come on!!! --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Heat actually made more sense than this one. AR-15 carbines are relatively easy to convert with drop in parts, Sigs and HK pistols are easy to find, and a semi-automatic HK 91 are nothing compared to an HK 416. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 00:56, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Well to stretch it, we can say this movie takes place during a time when the HK416's civilian variant has been released already and like in Heat, the character bought the civilian variant and put in a drop in auto conversion. It IS a stretch, but at least my theory explains how they at least got a hold of a 416. <br />
<br />
Oh and to the guy up there saying that because this movie takes place in Massachusetts with the strictest gun laws ever doesn't mean ANYTHING to bank robbers or criminal in general. They coulda bought their guns outside of the state, transported them back to Massachusetts and then made them full auto. This is the fact showing that gun control in one state doesn't matter when all you have to do is go to the neighboring state. I mean, what's H&K really going to do when they find out that someone is using their guns in a bank robbery? You really think the gun company would go out of their way to make sure their name isn't tarnished when police have problem finding high profile criminals? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:25, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I should know what you can and can't do in MA, seeing as I live there. :P You can't even buy a handgun in Boston with a magazine that can hold more than ten rounds, any shotgun with a revolving cylinder and/or a capacity exceeding six rounds, a semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 10 rounds, any SKS, AK47, UZI, AR-15, Steyr AUG, FN-FAL, and FN-FNC rifle. I agree, your point is valid, but there's no need to sound all snippy about it. all I was saying is that obtaining that level of weaponry would be a fairly difficult task. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 21:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I wasn't trying to be "snippy". You're just reading my text in that tone. I was just being informative on how things work to the criminal mind. They don't follow the law or any rules at all. You really think a magazine limit will stop a criminal from committing crime? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Haha absolutely not, and in that respect, most, if not all, firearms laws are a joke. SOrry if I took that the wrong way, no hard feelings. :) -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 17:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
And just as another stretch, it IS possible to get the HK USC, with is the civilian UMP and customize it to function like a UMP, but the best theory on why all the hard to get weapons is they most likely stole them from the Police. I mean, there are many departments that uses the UMP and there are some out there that do have the HK416. It wouldn't be TOO hard to believe they ambushed a cop car and stole their weapons or broke into a police armory. They seem to be good at breaking in and disguising themselves. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:32, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Yahoo Movies==<br />
Yahoo Movies has some pictures.<br />
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/2274/the-town-stills#photo6<br />
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/2274/the-town-stills#photo37<br />
<br />
== Jimmy O? ==<br />
<br />
Is it just me or is that cop with the wooden stocked 870 played by Titus Welliver, who plays Jimmy O'Phelan on Sons of Anarchy<br />
[[User:ShootingLiberal|ShootingLiberal]] 00:50, 16 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah that's him. He was in Affleck's Gone Baby Gone also.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:34, 16 September 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Town&diff=328955Talk:The Town2010-09-15T21:06:27Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Unknowns */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Unknowns==<br />
[[Image:Town-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jem (Jeremy Renner) fires a pistol.]]<br />
:Looks like a USP. -[[User:The_Winchester|Dr. Awesome]]<br />
:I agree, i think it's a USP Compact. -Scott; August 12th 2010<br />
Am I the only one who thinks this movie looks like it will be awesome? --[[User:ManiacallyChallenged|ManiacallyChallenged]]<br />
::Plus also this page is the talk of The Town. Puns are awesome.<br />
And am I the only one who thinks that these guys are, like, alarmingly well-equipped for bank robbers? I WISH it were that easy to get a full-auto HK416. :(<br />
:::Even if the registry was reopened you would still have a hard time getting one. HK would go out of their way to somehow stop that.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 04:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
Keep in mind that this is MASSACHUSETTS that the movie is set in. Strictest gun laws ever. SKS rifles aren't even allowed to be purchased inside the Boston city limits. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 10:32, 30 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
You know I have to admit I was thinking the same thing myself in regards to the weapons used by this crew and those in other movies like [[Heat]] or something. Where are these guys getting their firepower? HK's 416 is strictly in use by SOCOM or SWAT units. Sure the argument can be made they are acquiring some stuff on the "black market" but...come on!!! --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 20:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Heat actually made more sense than this one. AR-15 carbines are relatively easy to convert with drop in parts, Sigs and HK pistols are easy to find, and a semi-automatic HK 91 are nothing compared to an HK 416. [[User:GaBoy45|GaBoy45]] 00:56, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Well to stretch it, we can say this movie takes place during a time when the HK416's civilian variant has been released already and like in Heat, the character bought the civilian variant and put in a drop in auto conversion. It IS a stretch, but at least my theory explains how they at least got a hold of a 416. <br />
<br />
Oh and to the guy up there saying that because this movie takes place in Massachusetts with the strictest gun laws ever doesn't mean ANYTHING to bank robbers or criminal in general. They coulda bought their guns outside of the state, transported them back to Massachusetts and then made them full auto. This is the fact showing that gun control in one state doesn't matter when all you have to do is go to the neighboring state. I mean, what's H&K really going to do when they find out that someone is using their guns in a bank robbery? You really think the gun company would go out of their way to make sure their name isn't tarnished when police have problem finding high profile criminals? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:25, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I should know what you can and can't do in MA, seeing as I live there. :P You can't even buy a handgun in Boston with a magazine that can hold more than ten rounds, any shotgun with a revolving cylinder and/or a capacity exceeding six rounds, a semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 10 rounds, any SKS, AK47, UZI, AR-15, Steyr AUG, FN-FAL, and FN-FNC rifle. I agree, your point is valid, but there's no need to sound all snippy about it. all I was saying is that obtaining that level of weaponry would be a fairly difficult task. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 21:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
And just as another stretch, it IS possible to get the HK USC, with is the civilian UMP and customize it to function like a UMP, but the best theory on why all the hard to get weapons is they most likely stole them from the Police. I mean, there are many departments that uses the UMP and there are some out there that do have the HK416. It wouldn't be TOO hard to believe they ambushed a cop car and stole their weapons or broke into a police armory. They seem to be good at breaking in and disguising themselves. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:32, 15 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Yahoo Movies==<br />
Yahoo Movies has some pictures.<br />
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/2274/the-town-stills#photo6<br />
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/2274/the-town-stills#photo37</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Strike_Witches&diff=328558Strike Witches2010-09-14T22:19:07Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* MG42 */</p>
<hr />
<div>Strike Witches is a mixed-media project originally created by Humikane Shimada via a series of magazine illustration columns. It was later adapted into two light novel series, two manga series, an anime OVA, and a televised anime series. The story revolves around teenage girls who are essentially moe anthropomorphizations of military planes. The OVA preview episode was released on January 1, 2007. The televised anime series later premiered on July 3, 2008, concluding September 18. Official confirmation of a second season of the anime was announced on February 27, 2009, and is currently running. <br />
<br />
'''The following guns can be seen in the anime Strike Witches:'''<br />
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[[Image:Strike-witches.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Strike Witches '''(2008-present)''''']]<br />
<br />
==STEN==<br />
[[Sten]] Mk. II submachine guns are used by British troops who replace the Strike Witches with the Warlock unit. They use shoulder straps pulled tight rather than the stock, presumably to allow better accuracy when hip-fired.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Sten.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sten Mk II submachine gun 9x19mm Parabellum]]<br />
[[Image:SWSTEN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers and their STENs. The man in the officer's uniform is based on real-life RAF commander Lord Hugh Dowding.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers encircle the witches.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN5.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke, showing admirable calm despite being held at gunpoint by British troops.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN6.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A soldier confiscates Sakamoto's katana, STEN slung over his shoulder.]]<br />
<br />
==Walther PPK/S==<br />
A [[Walther PPK]] is issued to Miyafuji when she first arrives in Britannia. She refuses it, however, stating a dislike for firearms. Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke carries one on her person, and is notably seen using it to threaten Sakamoto. It can be assumed that most, if not all, of the witches were issued a PPK upon their arrival at the base.<br />
<br />
[[Image:PPK_stainless.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walther PPK - .380 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:SWPPKS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The PPK lies on top of a box containing Yoshika's personal effects. Note the Walther logo, and that the safety is on.]] <br />
[[Image:SWPPKS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika returns the PPK, stating that she dislikes guns.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna draws her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Minna_ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna aims her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk_barrel.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup of the PPK's barrel, note the Walther logo.]]<br />
<br />
==MG42==<br />
The [[MG42]] is carried by most members of the 501st JFW. Due to her strength ability, Gertrud Barkhorn prefers using two MG-42s at once, often with devastating effect. Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen prefers the MG-42 to her heavier [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#Suomi M31|Suomi M31 SMG]], and Minna likes the "balance of power and stability." Erica prefers it to her [[MP40]] sidearm because "it shoots fast and rarely stops working." All Strike Witches MG-42s are modified to use 75 round MG-34 type double-drum magazines. <br />
<br />
[[Image:MG42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[MG42]] 7.92 x 57mm Mauser (8mm Mauser)]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna and Erica Hartmann with their MG-42s, whereas Charlotte Yeager carries her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The witches prepare for battle. Note Barkhorn wielding two MG-42s akimbo.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG422.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica opens fire with her MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG423.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen, using an MG-42 in battle.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG424.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica lays down fire with the MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG425.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Barkhorn with her dual MG-42s.]]<br />
<br />
==BREN==<br />
A [[Bren gun]] is carried by Perrine Clostermann. She states that she would prefer to use a [[Chatellerault M1924/29]], but is unable to obtain one. Instead, she uses the BREN, which is similar to the Chatellerault in many aspects but is presumably easier to obtain in Britannia.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Bren_mk2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bren - .303 British]]<br />
[[Image:SWBREN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Perrine with her BREN gun.]]<br />
<br />
==Boys Anti-Tank Rifle==<br />
Carried by Lynette Bishop in her role as the squad's designated marksman. While she uses a Boys Mk. I, she has switched the muzzle brake to that of a Mk. II, which according to her makes it easier to use.<br />
<br />
[[Image:SWBOYS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lynette takes a shot with her Boys, while Sanya holds her custom Fliegerhammer.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBOYS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]]<br />
<br />
==Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR)==<br />
A [[Browning Automatic Rifle]] is carried by Charlotte Yeager. Shirley actually dislikes the gun for the most part, citing the relatively small ammo capacity, even with the custom 40 round magazines she uses. She also dislikes the fixed barrel, which she can't replace if the gun overheats (though she admits somewhat sarcastically that this is unlikely due to the ammo capacity.) The one aspect Shirley does like about the BAR is it's durability, stating it can be used even if one doesn't take much care of it.<br />
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[[Image:BAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley (on the left) with her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley fires her BAR...while upside-down.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1919.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A beautful shot of Shirley's BAR. Also, note Luchinni with the M1919.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBARMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley carries her BAR while Erica carries it's nemesis, the MG-42.]]<br />
<br />
==M1919A6==<br />
A [[Browning M1919]] A6 is carried by Francesca Lucchini. It was given to her by Shirley after she misplaced the Italian weapons she brought to Britannia with her. Francesca states that she likes the gun because of the high rate of fire, durability, and high ammo capacity.<br />
<br />
[[Image:M1919a6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1919A6 .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW19191.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lucchini and Eila dodge incoming fire.]] <br />
[[Image:SW19192.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SW19193.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another beautifully clear shot, this time of Lucchini's M1919. Note the box magazine and shoulder stock.]]<br />
<br />
==Type 99-1 Cannon==<br />
The Japanese Type 99-1 cannon in flexible mount configuration is used by both Sakamoto Mio and Yoshika Miyafuji. It has been modified to utilize a conventional pistol grip more suitable for dismounted use.<br />
<br />
[[image:Type_99-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Type 99-1 20mm cannon.]]<br />
[[Image:SWT991.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika demonstrates good trigger discipline with her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT992.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The Type 99-1 rests in a specially made cradle inside the hangar.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT994.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Mio Sakamoto fires her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT995.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika aims her Type 99-1.]]<br />
<br />
==Fliegerhammer (modified Fliegerfaust)==<br />
Carried by Sanya V. Litvyak. It is based on the design of a Fliegerfaust, with the 9 round capacity of a Fliegerfaust B. Sanya is able to channel her magic into the weapon, thereby making the rockets more powerful. The Fliegerhammer is also capable of something resembling automatic fire, in that the operator can fire one rocket after another simply by holding down the trigger.<br />
<br />
[[Image:SWRPG.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Sanya prepares to fire the Fliegerhammer. Underestimating a cute girl with a 9 shot rocket launcher is likely one of the last mistakes you'll ever make.]]<br />
<br />
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fliegerfaust] Wikipedia page for the real life Fliegerfaust, similar to Sanya's Fliegerhammer.<br />
<br />
==Nambu Type 14==<br />
A [[Nambu Type 14 Pistol]] is used in Season 2 Episode 2 by Mio's assistant to help her test the abilities of her shield.<br />
<br />
[[Image:NambuType14Pistol.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Nambu Type 14 8x22mm Nambu]]<br />
[[Image:Nambu.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mio's assistant fires the Nambu.]]<br />
<br />
==MG34==<br />
An [[MG34]] is used by Hanna Justina Marseille as her primary weapon.<br />
<br />
[[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with front and rear sights folded down]]<br />
<br />
[[Image:MG15witches.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica open fire. Notice that Hanna uses the bipod on her weapon as a foregrip.]]<br />
<br />
[[Image:MG15-2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup on the MG34's barrel.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna holds the MG34.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica face off.]]<br />
<br />
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[[Category:Anime]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Strike_Witches&diff=328555Strike Witches2010-09-14T22:17:05Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* MG42 */</p>
<hr />
<div>Strike Witches is a mixed-media project originally created by Humikane Shimada via a series of magazine illustration columns. It was later adapted into two light novel series, two manga series, an anime OVA, and a televised anime series. The story revolves around teenage girls who are essentially moe anthropomorphizations of military planes. The OVA preview episode was released on January 1, 2007. The televised anime series later premiered on July 3, 2008, concluding September 18. Official confirmation of a second season of the anime was announced on February 27, 2009, and is currently running. <br />
<br />
'''The following guns can be seen in the anime Strike Witches:'''<br />
<br />
[[Image:Strike-witches.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Strike Witches '''(2008-present)''''']]<br />
<br />
==STEN==<br />
[[Sten]] Mk. II submachine guns are used by British troops who replace the Strike Witches with the Warlock unit. They use shoulder straps pulled tight rather than the stock, presumably to allow better accuracy when hip-fired.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Sten.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sten Mk II submachine gun 9x19mm Parabellum]]<br />
[[Image:SWSTEN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers and their STENs. The man in the officer's uniform is based on real-life RAF commander Lord Hugh Dowding.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers encircle the witches.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN5.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke, showing admirable calm despite being held at gunpoint by British troops.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN6.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A soldier confiscates Sakamoto's katana, STEN slung over his shoulder.]]<br />
<br />
==Walther PPK/S==<br />
A [[Walther PPK]] is issued to Miyafuji when she first arrives in Britannia. She refuses it, however, stating a dislike for firearms. Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke carries one on her person, and is notably seen using it to threaten Sakamoto. It can be assumed that most, if not all, of the witches were issued a PPK upon their arrival at the base.<br />
<br />
[[Image:PPK_stainless.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walther PPK - .380 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:SWPPKS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The PPK lies on top of a box containing Yoshika's personal effects. Note the Walther logo, and that the safety is on.]] <br />
[[Image:SWPPKS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika returns the PPK, stating that she dislikes guns.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna draws her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Minna_ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna aims her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk_barrel.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup of the PPK's barrel, note the Walther logo.]]<br />
<br />
==MG42==<br />
The [[MG42]] is carried by most members of the 501st JFW. Due to her strength ability, Gertrud Barkhorn prefers using two MG-42s at once, often with devastating effect. Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen prefers the MG-42 to her heavier [[Suomi_M31]], and Minna likes the "balance of power and stability." Erica prefers it to her [[MP40]] sidearm because "it shoots fast and rarely stops working." All Strike Witches MG-42s are modified to use 75 round MG-34 type double-drum magazines. <br />
<br />
[[Image:MG42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[MG42]] 7.92 x 57mm Mauser (8mm Mauser)]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna and Erica Hartmann with their MG-42s, whereas Charlotte Yeager carries her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The witches prepare for battle. Note Barkhorn wielding two MG-42s akimbo.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG422.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica opens fire with her MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG423.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen, using an MG-42 in battle.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG424.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica lays down fire with the MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG425.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Barkhorn with her dual MG-42s.]]<br />
<br />
==BREN==<br />
A [[Bren gun]] is carried by Perrine Clostermann. She states that she would prefer to use a [[Chatellerault M1924/29]], but is unable to obtain one. Instead, she uses the BREN, which is similar to the Chatellerault in many aspects but is presumably easier to obtain in Britannia.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Bren_mk2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bren - .303 British]]<br />
[[Image:SWBREN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Perrine with her BREN gun.]]<br />
<br />
==Boys Anti-Tank Rifle==<br />
Carried by Lynette Bishop in her role as the squad's designated marksman. While she uses a Boys Mk. I, she has switched the muzzle brake to that of a Mk. II, which according to her makes it easier to use.<br />
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[[Image:SWBOYS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lynette takes a shot with her Boys, while Sanya holds her custom Fliegerhammer.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBOYS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]]<br />
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==Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR)==<br />
A [[Browning Automatic Rifle]] is carried by Charlotte Yeager. Shirley actually dislikes the gun for the most part, citing the relatively small ammo capacity, even with the custom 40 round magazines she uses. She also dislikes the fixed barrel, which she can't replace if the gun overheats (though she admits somewhat sarcastically that this is unlikely due to the ammo capacity.) The one aspect Shirley does like about the BAR is it's durability, stating it can be used even if one doesn't take much care of it.<br />
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[[Image:BAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley (on the left) with her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley fires her BAR...while upside-down.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1919.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A beautful shot of Shirley's BAR. Also, note Luchinni with the M1919.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBARMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley carries her BAR while Erica carries it's nemesis, the MG-42.]]<br />
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==M1919A6==<br />
A [[Browning M1919]] A6 is carried by Francesca Lucchini. It was given to her by Shirley after she misplaced the Italian weapons she brought to Britannia with her. Francesca states that she likes the gun because of the high rate of fire, durability, and high ammo capacity.<br />
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[[Image:M1919a6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1919A6 .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW19191.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lucchini and Eila dodge incoming fire.]] <br />
[[Image:SW19192.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SW19193.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another beautifully clear shot, this time of Lucchini's M1919. Note the box magazine and shoulder stock.]]<br />
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==Type 99-1 Cannon==<br />
The Japanese Type 99-1 cannon in flexible mount configuration is used by both Sakamoto Mio and Yoshika Miyafuji. It has been modified to utilize a conventional pistol grip more suitable for dismounted use.<br />
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[[image:Type_99-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Type 99-1 20mm cannon.]]<br />
[[Image:SWT991.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika demonstrates good trigger discipline with her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT992.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The Type 99-1 rests in a specially made cradle inside the hangar.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT994.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Mio Sakamoto fires her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT995.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika aims her Type 99-1.]]<br />
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==Fliegerhammer (modified Fliegerfaust)==<br />
Carried by Sanya V. Litvyak. It is based on the design of a Fliegerfaust, with the 9 round capacity of a Fliegerfaust B. Sanya is able to channel her magic into the weapon, thereby making the rockets more powerful. The Fliegerhammer is also capable of something resembling automatic fire, in that the operator can fire one rocket after another simply by holding down the trigger.<br />
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[[Image:SWRPG.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Sanya prepares to fire the Fliegerhammer. Underestimating a cute girl with a 9 shot rocket launcher is likely one of the last mistakes you'll ever make.]]<br />
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fliegerfaust] Wikipedia page for the real life Fliegerfaust, similar to Sanya's Fliegerhammer.<br />
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==Nambu Type 14==<br />
A [[Nambu Type 14 Pistol]] is used in Season 2 Episode 2 by Mio's assistant to help her test the abilities of her shield.<br />
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[[Image:NambuType14Pistol.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Nambu Type 14 8x22mm Nambu]]<br />
[[Image:Nambu.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mio's assistant fires the Nambu.]]<br />
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==MG34==<br />
An [[MG34]] is used by Hanna Justina Marseille as her primary weapon.<br />
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[[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with front and rear sights folded down]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15witches.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica open fire. Notice that Hanna uses the bipod on her weapon as a foregrip.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup on the MG34's barrel.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna holds the MG34.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica face off.]]<br />
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[[Category:Anime]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Strike_Witches&diff=328554Strike Witches2010-09-14T22:15:52Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* MG42 */</p>
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<div>Strike Witches is a mixed-media project originally created by Humikane Shimada via a series of magazine illustration columns. It was later adapted into two light novel series, two manga series, an anime OVA, and a televised anime series. The story revolves around teenage girls who are essentially moe anthropomorphizations of military planes. The OVA preview episode was released on January 1, 2007. The televised anime series later premiered on July 3, 2008, concluding September 18. Official confirmation of a second season of the anime was announced on February 27, 2009, and is currently running. <br />
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'''The following guns can be seen in the anime Strike Witches:'''<br />
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[[Image:Strike-witches.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Strike Witches '''(2008-present)''''']]<br />
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==STEN==<br />
[[Sten]] Mk. II submachine guns are used by British troops who replace the Strike Witches with the Warlock unit. They use shoulder straps pulled tight rather than the stock, presumably to allow better accuracy when hip-fired.<br />
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[[Image:Sten.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sten Mk II submachine gun 9x19mm Parabellum]]<br />
[[Image:SWSTEN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers and their STENs. The man in the officer's uniform is based on real-life RAF commander Lord Hugh Dowding.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers encircle the witches.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN5.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke, showing admirable calm despite being held at gunpoint by British troops.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN6.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A soldier confiscates Sakamoto's katana, STEN slung over his shoulder.]]<br />
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==Walther PPK/S==<br />
A [[Walther PPK]] is issued to Miyafuji when she first arrives in Britannia. She refuses it, however, stating a dislike for firearms. Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke carries one on her person, and is notably seen using it to threaten Sakamoto. It can be assumed that most, if not all, of the witches were issued a PPK upon their arrival at the base.<br />
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[[Image:PPK_stainless.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walther PPK - .380 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:SWPPKS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The PPK lies on top of a box containing Yoshika's personal effects. Note the Walther logo, and that the safety is on.]] <br />
[[Image:SWPPKS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika returns the PPK, stating that she dislikes guns.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna draws her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Minna_ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna aims her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk_barrel.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup of the PPK's barrel, note the Walther logo.]]<br />
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==MG42==<br />
The [[MG42]] is carried by most members of the 501st JFW. Due to her strength ability, Gertrud Barkhorn prefers using two MG-42s at once, often with devastating effect. Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen prefers the MG-42 to her heavier [[Suomi M31]], and Minna likes the "balance of power and stability." Erica prefers it to her [[MP40]] sidearm because "it shoots fast and rarely stops working." All Strike Witches MG-42s are modified to use 75 round MG-34 type double-drum magazines. <br />
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[[Image:MG42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[MG42]] 7.92 x 57mm Mauser (8mm Mauser)]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna and Erica Hartmann with their MG-42s, whereas Charlotte Yeager carries her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The witches prepare for battle. Note Barkhorn wielding two MG-42s akimbo.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG422.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica opens fire with her MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG423.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen, using an MG-42 in battle.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG424.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica lays down fire with the MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG425.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Barkhorn with her dual MG-42s.]]<br />
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==BREN==<br />
A [[Bren gun]] is carried by Perrine Clostermann. She states that she would prefer to use a [[Chatellerault M1924/29]], but is unable to obtain one. Instead, she uses the BREN, which is similar to the Chatellerault in many aspects but is presumably easier to obtain in Britannia.<br />
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[[Image:Bren_mk2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bren - .303 British]]<br />
[[Image:SWBREN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Perrine with her BREN gun.]]<br />
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==Boys Anti-Tank Rifle==<br />
Carried by Lynette Bishop in her role as the squad's designated marksman. While she uses a Boys Mk. I, she has switched the muzzle brake to that of a Mk. II, which according to her makes it easier to use.<br />
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[[Image:SWBOYS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lynette takes a shot with her Boys, while Sanya holds her custom Fliegerhammer.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBOYS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]]<br />
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==Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR)==<br />
A [[Browning Automatic Rifle]] is carried by Charlotte Yeager. Shirley actually dislikes the gun for the most part, citing the relatively small ammo capacity, even with the custom 40 round magazines she uses. She also dislikes the fixed barrel, which she can't replace if the gun overheats (though she admits somewhat sarcastically that this is unlikely due to the ammo capacity.) The one aspect Shirley does like about the BAR is it's durability, stating it can be used even if one doesn't take much care of it.<br />
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[[Image:BAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley (on the left) with her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley fires her BAR...while upside-down.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1919.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A beautful shot of Shirley's BAR. Also, note Luchinni with the M1919.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBARMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley carries her BAR while Erica carries it's nemesis, the MG-42.]]<br />
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==M1919A6==<br />
A [[Browning M1919]] A6 is carried by Francesca Lucchini. It was given to her by Shirley after she misplaced the Italian weapons she brought to Britannia with her. Francesca states that she likes the gun because of the high rate of fire, durability, and high ammo capacity.<br />
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[[Image:M1919a6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1919A6 .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW19191.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lucchini and Eila dodge incoming fire.]] <br />
[[Image:SW19192.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SW19193.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another beautifully clear shot, this time of Lucchini's M1919. Note the box magazine and shoulder stock.]]<br />
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==Type 99-1 Cannon==<br />
The Japanese Type 99-1 cannon in flexible mount configuration is used by both Sakamoto Mio and Yoshika Miyafuji. It has been modified to utilize a conventional pistol grip more suitable for dismounted use.<br />
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[[image:Type_99-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Type 99-1 20mm cannon.]]<br />
[[Image:SWT991.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika demonstrates good trigger discipline with her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT992.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The Type 99-1 rests in a specially made cradle inside the hangar.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT994.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Mio Sakamoto fires her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT995.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika aims her Type 99-1.]]<br />
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==Fliegerhammer (modified Fliegerfaust)==<br />
Carried by Sanya V. Litvyak. It is based on the design of a Fliegerfaust, with the 9 round capacity of a Fliegerfaust B. Sanya is able to channel her magic into the weapon, thereby making the rockets more powerful. The Fliegerhammer is also capable of something resembling automatic fire, in that the operator can fire one rocket after another simply by holding down the trigger.<br />
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[[Image:SWRPG.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Sanya prepares to fire the Fliegerhammer. Underestimating a cute girl with a 9 shot rocket launcher is likely one of the last mistakes you'll ever make.]]<br />
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fliegerfaust] Wikipedia page for the real life Fliegerfaust, similar to Sanya's Fliegerhammer.<br />
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==Nambu Type 14==<br />
A [[Nambu Type 14 Pistol]] is used in Season 2 Episode 2 by Mio's assistant to help her test the abilities of her shield.<br />
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[[Image:NambuType14Pistol.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Nambu Type 14 8x22mm Nambu]]<br />
[[Image:Nambu.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mio's assistant fires the Nambu.]]<br />
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==MG34==<br />
An [[MG34]] is used by Hanna Justina Marseille as her primary weapon.<br />
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[[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with front and rear sights folded down]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15witches.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica open fire. Notice that Hanna uses the bipod on her weapon as a foregrip.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup on the MG34's barrel.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna holds the MG34.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica face off.]]<br />
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[[Category:Anime]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Metal_Gear_Solid_3:_Snake_Eater&diff=328376Talk:Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater2010-09-14T17:59:55Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Slide lock on the tranq pistols */</p>
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<div>== This Game is the best game. ==<br />
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Ok, it's not the best game but it's one of the best games of all time. It's basically an awesome Bond Movie. It has a awesome pre-title sequence (The Virtous Mission), a great title sequence with an awesome song (You know the one i'm talking about), a bond girl (EVA), fights with various henchmen (Cobras, Ocelot), Q (Sigint) and a incredibly ridiculous stereotypical evil enemy (Volgin and his cronies). It's the best game on the PS2. It also got great voice acting and extremely awesome and ridiculous stuff like when EVA dropsaults Ocelot with a '''motorcycle'''. Even though i got some complaints the game is still one of the best games of all time.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:47, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Sure is, I really like Ocelot in this game, he is so badass with his revolver tricks and that hand gesture he does all the time. I also like how the game has you use survival tactics too, such as finding food, and treating your injuries. It was this game got me into MGS.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 23:57, 20 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I also like how Ocelot kinda admires Snake. I also like how Ocelot is basically a Cowboy and how Snake says that the engraving on his SAA ins't useful tatical wise. I just love this game. I think I'm the only one that laughed in MGS2 when there was the easter egg where snake is caught having a....ugh...erm... a ''happy time'' in a locker. Or was it MGS1? Anyway, i have some complaints about the game though. Like how EVA is supposed to be chinese and she looks extremely american or all the anachroisms (I probably spelled that wrong) or how Snake spergs out about guns.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 00:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::If I remember correctly, and it's possible I may not because I haven't played MGS3 in a while, Eva was actually American but had been kidnapped by the Philosophers and sent to China, where she grew up in an orphanage-type place and was trained as a Chinese agent. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]]<br />
::I don't know but she's either Chinese or an american that defected to the chinese or she could be what you just said, Spartan.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:19, 13 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::She could be based on those Americans who was captured during the Korean war, in which they been indoctrinated about the Chinese Communism. When the war was over, they were released and starting to promote Communism in U.S. However Eva is not captured, so I guess she was either left behind by her American parents in China (could be Shanghai) when Mao Zedong won the Chinese Civil war and send to an orphanage or she was kidnapped by the Chinese Philosophers and train her into an agent. - Han<br />
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I remember this was the most played Metal Gear Solid game I've ever own. I would play it over and over more than my remake of MGS1 and MGS2. When MGS4 came out, I still had time to play the 3rd one again because of the story and gameplay. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Airsoft 1911 ==<br />
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[[Image:Snake_.45-2.JPG|thumb|none|350px|Snake's custom M1911: in reality, a custom airsoft gun made by Sheriff Co. of Japan.]]<br />
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I dont think thats the model they used in the game. First of all, it was a Government model, and on its slide it had 90 degree serrations like the GI M1911A1(Both on the front and on the back). The grip safety was a standard m1911a1 grip safety, but was edited in some regions. The trigger had 5 or 6 holes in it. It had a threaded black barrel, and the wooden grips were cut to accomodate a cqc knife. That 1911 may look similar to untrained eyes, but it's quite different from what Big Boss had in Op.Snake Eater.<br />
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:Actually, the custom M1911A1 Naked Snake uses has ''no grip safety whatsoever''. This is mentioned during radio conversations with Sigint. --Orca*<br />
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Could someone try to get a screencap of it from the menu rather than using the one from my site, and don't try to deny it, I edited it to remove the markings on the slide.<br />
-Crimson. <br />
This 1911 looks more like a colt XSE to me...-izak 99<br />
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this is the exact copy, more or less.. just an airsoft replica, copy paste the link*<br />
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.y-cw.com/hal-12b.htm&ei=IIsUSsbuE9HVlQf4qrTFAw&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dnm%2B7267719%26hl%3Den%26rls%3DADBS,ADBS:2006-45,ADBS:en<br />
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Moved this into discussion. As I also noted in the MGS4 discussion, the airsoft gun in the picture has little more than a slight superficial resemblance to the weapon in the game. The link above seems to be a more accurate replica of the pistol in the game.<br />
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== Slide lock on the tranq pistols ==<br />
Why is it Snake never simply ''disengages'' the slide lock on the tranq pistols in these games in order to enable them to cycle on their own? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 17:48, 28 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Best guess is that the rounds don't have the power to fully cycle the slide on their own.-[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 23:07, 28 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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its so that it is quieter apperently. if he fires without the slide lock it will become louder---[[Special:Contributions/92.12.88.35|92.12.88.35]] 15:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC) i think that is from the manual or something, cos i definatly is true<br />
:Personally I'd rather have a slightly ''louder'' pistol that can cycle on its own rather than a slightly ''quieter'' one that's, in effect, a "bolt action" pistol. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 15:01, 7 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Sometimes I wish the game let the player disengage the slide-lock on the tranq pistols when you're not using it with a suppressor. That would make it more useful in boss fights or other situations where you want to use non-lethal force but either don't have suppressors for the Hush Puppy or don't want to use one. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 18:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:As I understand it, the S&W Model 39's used for ''Hush Pupppy's'' were irreversibly modified -- the slide-lock function could not be disengaged. A later version of the slide-lock pistol was the Beretta M9, and its modification, while also permanent, permitted the weapon to be disengaged from a manual reloading function into semiautomatic function. Snake, however, was NOT PERMITTED TO ENGAGE during the ''Virtuous Mission'', the operation in which he was issued the Mk.22. Hence, the added silence of a slide-lock pistol, the ammunition, etc., were not meant for direct combat -- they were meant for sneaking. The same thing goes for Solid Snake in MGS2 -- sneaking mission, stealth only, do not kill Marines. Than the Russians came... And Snake picked up a USP, first chance he got. ;) --Orca*<br />
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::I really don't think what Snake was or wasn't permitted to do is at all relevant. As with any black operation, there's always the possibility that you can be compromised and engaged yourself. When SEALs or some other SOF team goes on a recon mission where their ROE don't permit them to engage, the whole team doesn't take M4s modified to be hand-cycled only, do they? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:29, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Wouldn't know -- not a SEAL. But I imagine they have, in addition to their primaries, some sort of option for silent killing from a ranged distance -- the Mk.22 was developed to kill guard dogs; something that SF teams wouldn't be able to easily sneak up on and stab (or whatever). The Mk.22 represented in MGS3 uses that aspect, of 'the most silence possible from a distance', because solo ops were a FOX UNIT selling point to the CIA, who would organize them into an official unit if they succeeded in a completely undetectable rescue -- no deaths on either side, objective achieved, no traces to the US. Supposedly, even Snake's shell casings were unmarked, to say nothing of the tranquilizer load. Invisibility; on a physical and politcal scale, that was the mission as the story tells it, and so the Mk.22 was seen as the best choice to send Snake, already lightly loaded, in with. --Orca*<br />
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Where exactly are you getting that the Mk. 22 was developed specifically to "kill guard dogs"? Having an extra gun on you specifically to kill a few guard dogs that: <br />
1. may or may not be there <br />
2. are likely within full view of their handlers<br />
seems incredibly superfluous when any silenced pistol would do the job equally well. Forgive me if I'm a tad bit skeptical of that claim. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 17:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Reloading while carrying a knife ==<br />
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I understand the tactics behind holding a knife in your reaction hand while you grip the weapon, but in reloading, that's just one extra thing you have to worry about not dropping. How would you get a good grasp of the spare mag while holding onto a knife. Snake seems to have no problems but it just occurred to me that trying this in real life can be very dangerous. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:24, 6 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It's even worse in MGS4 where apparently no one has ever heard of bayonets and always has a knife in the off-hand. It's part of the bias towards the gun-and-knife tactics of CQC that the series gained since MGS3. One way I think the reload could work with the knife in your off hand is if you grip the knife with your ring and pinky finger while using your thumb, index, and middle fingers to grip the mag. The real answer, however, would require that you look closely at the reload animations in this game or MGS4 to find out how they do it. They're all motion-captured, so they all have to be something real human beings can do. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] 17:49, 6 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::It's not that they've never heard of bayonets. It's that bayonets are a clumsy, antiquated last ditch weapon. They are good in practice for basically one thing, and that is to (hopefully) turn your assault rifle into something like a spear which you will somehow manage to stab your enemy with before he fills you full of messy holes. You fix bayonets when you are out of bullets, grenades, helmets to throw at the other guy, air support and better ideas. In the close-quarters combat techniques that MGS' CQC is based on, the actual purpose of a knife is not merely as a cutting and slashing weapon; the knife serves as a method of controlling an opponent using pain-compliance and leverage. Granted I never saw anyone carry their knife like that ''all the time'', but then if I've been within a hundred miles of some special forces unit, they never bothered to come over and ask if I'd build 'em a house or something. I've definitely never seen anyone just running around with their bayonet fixed though. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 00:53, 14 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Here's an experiment to try: Get a gun in one hand and a steak knife in the other. Hold the knife with the blade down just like Big Boss does. Now eject the magazine. Just let it drop, dont worry about it. Now pick it back up or find a new magazine. Do so by gripping the knife with your ring finger and pinky and clamping it against your palm. It keeps it in place and keeps it stable. Use your thumb, index finger, and middle finger to manipulate the magazine and rack the slide. Resume your grip and go about your day. It might sound complicated but even doing it four or fives times it starts to get easier. Big Boss holds his gun like this EVERY SINGLE TIME. So inconclusion it isnt that dangerous or awkward. go ahead and try it for yourself.<br />
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-Double Agent M<br />
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:I rather not recommend random people online to try a trick that an ingame "professional" can do. As I said, if you aren't careful, you could end up stabbing yourself in the gut. The point of reloading is to get a firm and complete grip on the spare mags and then get it out and into the gun as efficiently as possible. Not doing it super speed like some people would try, but even doing it slowly, you'd have to mentally check the knife with that blade sticking out. You'd need to train yourself constantly with a fake knife before using a live blade. Otherwise, the chances for an amateur to stab himself is very high. And I don't want anyone to point back on my article if I say "hey, try this at home and NOT end up stabbing yourself with a steak Knife". if you reload without a complete grip on the mag, you might drop it or the knife. Remember this is Big Boss! And Solid Snake can do it as well, though oddly enough he never did that in Metal Gear Solid, or MGS2. Solid Snake only started to do the knife and handgun combo after MGS3 when we've known about Big Boss's early years and also Solid Snake's Mk 23 was replaced with a 1911 to emulate Big Boss [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:47, 7 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yeah, I agree with Excalibur. That's not something the average person should try. But I should point out that Snake's knife is a lot smaller than a kitchen knife. I myself, while not technically a trained professional, ''do'' know my way around with a blade and did a little test run with one of my boot knives. Turns out, it actually ''isn't'' that awkward (though still quite dangerous). When I grab my mags, I contort my wrist to the right (thumb toward the body) and grab with my thumb, pointer, and index fingers. Holding the knife like Snake does, the blade faces ''away'' from me when I reach for a mag. So the moral here is (A) kids, ''do not'' try this at home and (B) it's actually not that hard to firmly hold both knife and magazine. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 15:12, 7 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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But apparently in MGS4, Solid Snake does the knife combo with pretty much all of his guns if I am not mistaken. Imagine trying to grasp a rifle magazine while holding a knife [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 19:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Not that difficult, either. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 12:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I just think that holding a knife at the same time wouldbe just as extra thing to worry about and sure, a knife is good in CQB, but i doubt it will be useful having it out when you are in the open. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 18:43, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Not if your an expert at it. ;)<br />
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== The Patriot ==<br />
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It actually resembles the Rocky Mountain Arms Patriot Pistol seen in movie "Congo" and "Soldier",but this one most probably tricked out from M16A1 upper receiver with it's buttstock removed combined with the Patiot's lower receiver,and were given the M231 PFW firing mode.<br />
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*I'll see if I can get a screencap; I think the old image that was here was a real-life mock-up ''made'' from an RMA Patriot to look like the MGS4 Patriot, but I seem to recall the 3 Patriot looked ''far'' closer to the M231. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 11:39, 7 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:It did. It even had the threaded handguard. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 15:16, 7 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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But it can't be a M231 FPW, the game takes place in 1964 and the M231 FPW was not designed until 1979! It may look like the M231 FPW but it's probably just a custom XM16E1. As far as the full-auto only goes, maybe the developers thought it did not single-fire because it's unlimited. On a side note, Konami must of took the term "tumble rounds" wrong. The first time you see the Boss fire the Patriot, you see the 5.56 bullets fly in slow-mo and they actually tumble end over end in the air! O_o</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Medal_of_Honor_(2010)&diff=328139Talk:Medal of Honor (2010)2010-09-13T19:57:09Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Ugh... */</p>
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<div>==New Sidearms confirmed!==<br />
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SF has a Glock.<br />
Ranger has the M9.<br />
And someone we havent seen named Rabbit Has a Sig. Navy Seal im guessing<br />
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"When you play as "Rabbit" you carry a Sig. When you play as "Deuce" you carry a Glock. And when you are Dante Adams you carry the M9. These weapons can never be dropped, never run out of ammunition, and are an integral part of each character’s identity. The variety in these side arms is also intended to help give distinction and personality to each of the characters represented in "Neptune", "Wolfpack" and 1/75th Ranger"<br />
:I have two things to say about that. One, I'm happy I wont have to look at an M9 throughout the campaign. Two, I hope they allow you to pick which pistol you use in mp since it'd effectively wouldn't change the balance at all. Just allow more individualism to the players. Did I mention I'm really tired of seeing the M9 in my games?<br />
::Forgive Beretta if they've created one of the most successful pistols of all time, and it happens to be used by the U.S. military. So...I think either you should go design a new gun to replace it, or just live with it. Unless of course you want them to have the U.S. standard sidearm be an HK P30 just to be 'original'.<br />
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:Like most games the handguns will have different powers even if they're the same caliber, I'm betting. At least in Multiplayer anyways. Because in the level up screen you can see a level up sidearm section. And I'm hopeing only pistol are sidearms. Unlike modern 2 which had Shotguns and Machine pistols, which unbalanced the game<br />
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:You DO remember the first Modern Warfare where you can have TWO primary weapons on you, that's even worse. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:54, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Actually, MoH gives you two primaries and your secondary. Which actually isn't as bad as most would think. Some operators use a shotgun and their AR, and I'm sure having an SMG, a pistol and an M4 wouldn't be too bad, since I did it once for a test of my webgear for a review. Also, it's possible they could just use the different pistol models as just that, models. Same stats, but different appearance. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 05:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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If you really think about it, having 2 Primaries on you, plus your sidearm is just too much. Maybe for a shotgun, but even then. You'd have 3 sets of reloads and it's already heavy on you. The only times An operator needs a shotgun alongside his rifle is that he needs to breach a door and no one else has a shotgun. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:23, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I agree with ya about the having 3 different reloads, but depending on the weapons, the weight isn't so bad, or at least less noticeable. Anyway, it really could be worse. They could have you carrying two different types of rocket launchers and a machine gun like you can do in the Halo series. <br />
:At least they're making it so that you don't ditch a pistol two seconds into a level. I've always hated how any sidearm looses all use less than a minute into a game.--[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 06:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Am I the only one here distressed by the ''unlimited ammo'' aspect of the sidearms? This game is getting to be more and more ridiculous as it is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: Remember MW2 ? 400 rounds was total standard. And there isnt any true difference between ''unlimited'' and 400.<br />
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I liked it back when you can keep your sidearm and just pick up another primary. Sure it's a bit unrealistic to be carrying the max ammo for that gun, but not as unrealistic as dropping your handgun for a shotgun [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:''The setup that Army of Two had was kinda neat. One primary (usually an assault rifle), your sidearm (a handgun or machine pistol), and a special weapon, like a sniper rifle or launcher of some sort - the special weapon usually had the least amount of ammo available. I'd like to see that for a game like this, and frankly, it'd make a lot more sense (I know about Rainbow Six: Vegas, but I'm quite unimpressed with how that game flows to be honest with you). When going into heavy combat, I'd like to have some kind of quickly accessible sidearm for when the shit well and truly hits the fan. If my main weapon runs dry and I need to switch, the backup shouldn't be a long gun that's equally as...cumbersome to bear as the rifle was (MW2, I'm looking at you). As for unlimited ammo, well, that's a tough one for me. Sometimes I really like having that capability (such as in Splinter Cell: Conviction with their sidearms). Other times, well, it's nice to know that I can't just fire all willy-nilly and carefree, because then I'll be out of ammo. I think that it should be an unlockable bonus - like Saints Row 2 or Resident Evil 5. Give people the option to play with it on or off, if they choose. Just don't glitch it like CoD4 did. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 22:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)''<br />
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Where was it shown you get two primarys? Pretty sure its one primary and sidearm. Ive never seen or read about that in this game.<br />
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==Knife?==<br />
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I watched the "Leave a Message" trailer recently. I think one of the Rangers had a Gerber LMF II knife attached to his MOLLE vest. I own this same knife which is why it caught my eye.<br />
:Maybe so, but we need to avoid putting knives down. Yes, the MW2 page as well as some others have knives, but I'm in favor of removing said knives from said pages entirely. The site is called Internet Movie '''Firearms''' Database for a reason. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
I prefer it to have ALL weapons listed its interesting and gives more content.<br />
:''In that case, list it here in the discussion page when the game releases. A great example of this is the page for 2004's The Punisher. GM45 (I think it was him) took great care to screencap the variety of knives that movie had and list them there (among other things). But he left the main body of the page for the guns, which is why people come to this website.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 22:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==beta release date?==<br />
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When will 360 beta be out? I keep hearing within a week but have seen no announcements by the company.<br />
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Both links failed, and im getting pissed waiting, gives you high hopes for the games multiplayer when a short beta is this delayed......<br />
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I heard somewhere they're going to run it after they fix the bugs from the PS3/PC Betas, after they're done, because it will allow them to find new problems and because it saves money. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==weapon balance==<br />
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i just saw the 12 round beretta mentioned i think they did that for balance reasons. Another game too focused on fairness. God forbid you unlock a gun later on that just owns. <br />
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Yeah its kind of annoying when its that balanced, at least you could pretend its the .40, but I wouldn't even know what to do with the Grach, its named the Tariq (which is something else) and has 12 rounds too, when its supposed to have 17. Wait, couldn't they both just have been 16 to be in between? If I WAS going to make an overly balanced system like this, I'd try to make it close, why take them both down to 12? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Haha too bad there isn't one... WAIT! If you really want to stretch it you could pretend its the compact MP-448, 12 rounds of 9x18mm lol :D [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I hate when the do something like "the m4 has 20 power and 30 fire rate, the AK has 30 power and 20 fire rate, so there balanced. Then they go weapon x is more accurate than weapon y since its weaker and needs an advantage. I wish when you leveled up you had guns with good advantages that just own.<br />
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I want a game that keeps the round in the chamber, keeps track of your extra mags (not the one big number bullshit), all the functions to be right, none of the guns to be set in a firing mode they're not in, the ability to switch modes to whatever that weapon has, the correct attachments (no AKs with ACOGs, or M14s and G3s with M203s), the correct animations for reloads, correct fire rates, correct mag capacities, correct zooms on scopes and no zoom on reflex sights/irons sights, its not really too much to ask I don't think. The only thing that would be arguable would be damage stuff does, but for the MOST part if you used the calibre measurement as the damage it would work (i.e. 5.56mm does about 22 damage, 7.62mm does 30, .50 does 50) it's not perfect but I at least want the guns with the same calibres to do the same damage... Rant done. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 22:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There is a game for you, it's called ArmA. Mainstream arcadey FPS won't have all these features. But I agree at least counting bullet up the pipe would be nice touch. That always bugged me too. I have no idea why CoD games still doesn't have this. Anyway, ACOG (or any other weaver optic) on AK is not a problem via special mount. 203 on G3 and M14 is possible too.<br />
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Oh believe me, I wouldn't need ALL that, I still play the mainstream FPSs, it would just be nice, I just kept going with the list ;) And I do know you can technically put an ACOG on an AK or a 203 on the M14 or G3, but it would be nice to see the things that are supposed to be there... there, like the HK79. The attachments thing certainly wouldn't be as important to me as the round in the chamber, and I don't think guns of the same calibre having the same damage would be too much, its not that would take any extra effort... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Same caliber doesn't always do same damage when shot from different barrels. M16 and M4 is a good example. In case with M16 bullet tumble and fragment thus making more damage, but when the same ammo shot from M4 it does not.<br />
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I knew that but didn't want to make my posts too long ;)That's fair, I meant more the stuff that doesn't make sense, like a 12 gauge that does more damage than another 12 gauge because it's pump action vs semi-auto, or like in Modern Warfare 2, which is the game I'm mostly complaning about, the F2000 has a 15.7" barrel and does 30 damage, while the TAR-21 has an 18.1" does 40, I know the idea of damage as a numerical system like this isn't realistic in a lot of ways, but it's the best anyone has been able to come up with so far, and I wouldn't think 2.4 inches of barrel would make that much of a difference. Put it this way, out of the 9 assault rifles in that game there are only 3 different damages, the 30, 40, and 55, keep in mind that the calibres here are 5.56, 7.62, and 7.62 NATO: the M4, ACR, and F2000 do 30, the FAMAS, SCAR, TAR-21, M16A4, and AK-47 do the same (lol what?) at 40, and the FAL does a whopping 55 (because its semi). But the single worst is the UMP and Super V, both .45s with a comparible barrel length, the UMP does 40 (again) and the the Super V does... 25. I know there should be differences but this makes NO SENSE. Sorry, I know this is the Medal Of Honor page, but everyone here seems smarter... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It's not a simulator. They needed to differentiate gun's performance. Besides, most people playing it doesn't know shit which caliber it shoots. So probably it's better to just get over it. Try playing hardcore mode and weapon damage won't bother you so much.<br />
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I know :) it doesn't really matter too much, it would just be nice, but I'm not expecting it though lol [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 06:40, 25 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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seriously, no 1911 very disapointing. it might be outdated but Special Forces still use them. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Who said there won't be a 1911 in the final game? This isn't the final game. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 00:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
i dont know. i just figured since its not on the page already they wouldnt have it. but i hope they do. its a great gun and is used by Spec Ops. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
i think that all the comparisons come from MW2 because it has an overwhelming amount of flaws. for example- what has been previously stated. and does anyone else find it peculiar that all assault rifles lose the front sight when optics are attached? knowone would do that its stupid. what if there was a long battle and you ran out of battery on a dime, nope your dead now. and i kind of agree with the lack of a back sight because it takes away the point of the reflex being quick if you have to line 3 things to a target instead of the 1-2 or a normal rifle.<br />
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==First Part==<br />
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This game looks very promising in terms of realism and graphics compared to the other games. I'm excited to see that the game developers are working with REAL special forces operators. The game comes out in Fall 2010. CAN'T FREAKIN WAIT!!!!!!- ArmoredMason619<br />
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I've always had a soft spot with this series. I really hope they knock it out of the park with this one. <br />
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I'm guessing the guy on the front cover is a Green Beret?-- [[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]<br />
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:For some reason I though the guy on the front page was a PMC --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Na he is a Green Beret. That's the way they look when they are in a combat zone. They have to grow out a beard and dress like the civilians/insurgents in that particular area.-ArmoredMason619<br />
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A World War II shooter series is switching to a modern setting? It'll never work.<br />
:Your kidding right...and sign your posts --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:25, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The graphics appear to be on par with ''[[America's Army 3]]'', though hopefully it'll have less problems and a better weapon selection. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The trailer had what looked like an [[FN Minimi#M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249 SAW]] variant fitted with an EOTech red dot sight, but I only saw it for a second looking down the sights in first-person mode so couldn't determine wether it was a standard SAW or specialized version like the Paratrooper or [[FN Minimi#FN Minimi SPW|SPW]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I added a screen of the M4A1 and the Minimi/SAw possibilty. --[[User:TheCrazyGunNut|TheCrazyGunNut]]<br />
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Ah, cheap EA.. This is so obvious that they are doing this because of MW success. Won't buy just because of this fact.<br />
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Or because WWII has been overdone and they wanted to do something else. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 02:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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20th century saw so many wars. They could pick any one. The most suitable would be Vietnam war. I can't recall many good games about this conflict. It could be about SF also.<br />
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How about Vietcong? http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Vietcong In my personal oppinion the best PC game from Vietnam conflict up to date. I know that the Vietcong wasn't perfect but other games usually wasted their potential (e.g. Conflict Vietnam, Men of Valor) ended as a low quality budget (first Shellshock 67 and many others) or as some crazy VC/NVA-zombie kill fest (recent Shellshock 2). <br />
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I agree that there were many other "interesting" conflicts or suitable theathers for FPS games but "supply is influenced by demand". The "anti-terrorist" theme is actual and developers don't want to risk introducing a game that "nobody would want to play". Remember it's all about the money. Actually it's quite strange that if I look backwards I can't recall any good or partially realistic FPS from Afganistan or Iraq theatre - Modern Warefare, appart from other parts of the story, was set partialy in the Middle East but in some fictisious country (and that *** spoliler *** nuking of the whole Marine division *** spoiler *** was complete bullshit) and Modern Warefare 2 was about hunting down some crazy Russian ultranationalists (and *** spoiler *** one rouge American general *** spoiler *** that was bullshit as well). No offence to Call of Duty but I personally hope that Medal of Honor would not turn into such killfest of stupid AI NPC duchebags thrown in absolutely ridiculous waves into a single coridor where you have to kill more than 70 opponents on less than 100 square feet ...<br />
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:::Wow, so doing something original is bullshit? I mean, come on; I'd rather shoot 70 guys in a single cooridor than simply go from cave to cave, shooting the occasional militant, or riding about in my vehicle until I hit a bomb and get ambushed. Generic examples I know, but put simply, fighting a military-trained, fully-equipped soldier is a lot more exciting than some fanatical militant using 30-year-old weapons. Heck, even America's Army created a fictional enemy for the US Army to fight.<br />
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Judging by what I'm seeing in the trailer this is going to be far from any CoD style of modern warfare. This shit looks seriously hardcore in terms of trying to replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay. I guess only time will tell. Hopefully by then they fix the damn gas block thing. Fuck that pisses me off. These guys are working with tier 1 operators but they don't want to model the damn gun correctly. Anybody with even slight knowledge of an AR-15 platform would notice this error. It's a big frickin error.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]<br />
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:::"replicate actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay"? So coalition forces playing in a sandbox there? And duh, there is a gas-block, it's just too low-profile and you cannot see it.<br />
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::::Even if the gas block isn't there, does it really matter? The average gamer probably doesn't know, or care, what a gas block is, let alone whether it's actually there or not; and the Medal of Honor series goes for what looks cool (such as the Flak Tower in Airborne), not what's realistic.<br />
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Don't change the intent of my words. Let me rephrase :::"replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan fighting into gameplay." There happy? As well the use of a low profile gas block seems like an excuse. What are the chances that every M4 has a low profile gas block when there are attached optics?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]<br />
:::Why not? It's a game about hi-speed low-drag tear1 omfgd3ltasealz special forces operators.<br />
::::That's ''Tier'' 1. And even a low-profile gas block would still be visible on the barrel where the standard FSP would be due to the length of the gas tube. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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North American release date is October 12, 2010. Europe is October 15.-- [[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]<br />
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At O:43 you can see what I believe to be some kind of M240.*EDIT: Mk 46 Mod 0* <br />
All along the trailer are M4s with optics and different accessories. -DeltaOp<br />
:Was the Mark 14 EBR even fielded yet in 2002? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- Nope. EBR was designed around that date - 2001/2002 but first units (mostly from Navy Seals) were issued this rifle later on in 2004. So it's probably another game inaccuracy.<br />
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Who said it was set in 2002? And the gas block isn't removed for optics like in Call Of Duty, it's removed when the M203's flip up sight is on top, I'm thinking it's not to block that, not that I think it would block it, but that's when it's not there, not because of optics. EDIT: Wow my bad, it is set then, and I was thinking the M203 was an attachment, but its fixed on like in BFBC2, wow, I feel dumb lol. EDIT #2: I figured it out, the M16 removes the front sight for optics, but the M4 doesn't. Odd. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Green Beret on cover ==<br />
It's ''Cowboy''! [http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/12/03/news-bearded-guy-on-medal-of-honor-cover-is-real.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Lmao. Oh i didnt think of that one. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]<br />
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Anyone think its kinda odd that the Rangers seem to be doing alot of the work. along with the Green Beret. Wouldnt Delta Force/Navy SEALs be doing most of the stuff?<br />
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1st SFOD-D and Navy SEALs are, let's say, "equal" to Special Forces concerning their roles within US SOCOM. They are highly trained operators used for specific and "delicate" stuff. Rangers are more like muscless used for more "dirty" tasks. In reality, you would rather send a Special Forces A-Team to do cool things like - to recon the enemy airfield, to pin point potential high-value targets, to set observation post for calling CAS missions or to set sniping posts with 18B class operators with sniper rifles; while few C-130s packed with Ranger chalks would wait to "go-order" so they can jump in, do all the hard work and blow the enemy to pieces. Special Forces (Delta/SEALs etc.) are too valuable for such things. Even though, they are capable of kicking some serious ass, it is not practical to "mass" several A- or SEAL teams for a task, which bunch of Ranger squads could do better.[Ragnar]<br />
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okay thats true, but i just dont see why there wouldnt be SOME Operators or SEALs, think about this. Rangers are like the backbone of USSOCOM, Green Berets, are trained in Reconaissance, but if u want to kick some serious Taliban ass, u send in Operators or SEALs, because they excel at kickin' the door down, and opening up some whoop-ass. [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 00:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Who is the "Operators"?<br />
::Delta "Operators". [[User:Pz.Abt.100|Pz.Abt.100]] 22:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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but really, i no Delta is more of a mission specific unit, but seriously what is America's best military asset? 1stSFOD-D. why? because they have close to 500 Operators, the best in the world. and officially they dont exist. political bull shit in the way, no problemo. they dont exist. its denieble if you send them in.[[Special:Contributions/71.194.219.9|71.194.219.9]] 19:03, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Guns revealed in multi-player demo at E3 ==<br />
(These are just what I could spot while watching it on TV)<br />
*Beretta 92FS/M9 (not a 92SB like in CoD, had the squared-off trigger guard)<br />
*Pump-action shotgun I couldn't identify (they only showed it from the back)<br />
*Bolt-action sniper rifle, presumably a Remington M24 (only saw it from the back and right side as the player was working the bolt)<br />
*Not actually a new gun, but the M4A1 also had a low-profile front BUIS mounted on the RIS is some scenes<br />
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If you check the kill feed immediately after the kill with the sniper rifle, the identifies the unknown rifle as a Sako M57. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I found some footage: http://videos.pcgames.de/v/MuuqC3iXMpw/Medal-of-Honor/Multiplayer-Gameplay-E3-2010/ (the shotgun is a TOZ-194)<br />
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More confirmed weapons. I recommend you keep your eye to the left of the screen, below the radar, to see some weapons we have missed while watching the video.<br />
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RPK-Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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RPG 7-In-game footage<br />
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AK-47-Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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SVD Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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M249 Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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TT-30 Seen ingame<br />
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MP7A1 This one was very hard to see (Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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M-21 Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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870MCS Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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M60 Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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== List ==<br />
I'm gonna put all the ones I've seen down, so we've got one big list (this is all from the 11 minute long multiplayer video, both seen on screen and on the killfeed) If the names are given (killfeed ones) I'm writing them exactly as they are named in game. For the ones that aren't named I'll name them what they are.<br />
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M16<br />
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M203<br />
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AK-47<br />
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GP-30<br />
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M249<br />
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PKM<br />
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M4<br />
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AKS-74u<br />
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870MCS<br />
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TOZ-194<br />
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AT4<br />
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RPG-7<br />
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M21<br />
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SVD (NOTE: Has a straight .308 magazine)<br />
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M24<br />
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SV-98<br />
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M9<br />
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MP-443 (NOTE: Appears as the Tariq, which I thought that was an Iraqi-made Beretta clone...)<br />
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(From here down is not in the Beta)<br />
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RPK<br />
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MP7A1<br />
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M240<br />
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M60<br />
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M14 EBR (Seen in other videos. It is NOT the same as the M21 like it is in certain other games, the M21 has a normal M21 type body and stock, BOTH are in this.) [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 04:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Spliting into sections ==<br />
Wont it make sence to make two sections ? One with MP´s guns and one with SP´s guns. I think it will - because they dont use same engine, so guns can be different.<br />
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Why would the single player and multiplayer use different engines? That makes no sense. It would make the modelers have to model everything twice, and take up twice as much space on disc. No. We're not going to do that.-protoAuthor 19:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: It '''USES''' different engines. MP is running on frostbite, and SP is running on UT3 one.<br />
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Not sure if i'm doing this right, but yes it uses different engines, and the modelers do not have to model everything twice, they can easily import it from a common format to both engine's formats, PSK Mesh (or something) for UT3, and a new version of bundledmesh contained in RES files for frostbite. You don't have to model it twice, you just export within both engines.<br />
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:It still makes no sense to split up the page. But thank you for enlightening me to something that still makes no sense to me. Why would they do that?-protoAuthor 16:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The only reason i could possibly see would be to make a comparable multiplayer experience for BFBC2 players, And they might have already started building singleplayer on the unreal engine, which most if not all of the previous MoH games used. In my opinion, it shouldn't be split either, means some firearms would be listed twice. btw this isn't the original poster, this is the guy from the post before proto's last.<br />
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: Ok than. It doesnt have to be split, but there should be atlest writed to each screenshot " This is from Multiplayer/ Singleplayer". And just one little '''BTW''': They modelled it twice. As you can see, M4 or MK46 '''''HAVE''''' different models.<br />
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That's because the M4 and Mk. 46 are different guns, silly.-protoAuthor 04:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Heh. I mean that M4 looks different in SP and MP. Same with Mk.46<br />
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They do look different but I think its just because one sets from that first trailer a while ago, game's graphics always get better as develpment keeps going, but you might be right to, I was just throwing that out there. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== LMG Special Weapons ==<br />
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In the sniper class you get C4, in the special ops class you get a rocket, and with an assault rifle in the rifleman class you get a launcher... so what do you get if you equip an LMG? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 09:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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more ammo?<br />
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:Absolutely nothing. You have 2 spare 150 round mags (in the beta, with the PK).<br />
::You have self-destruct vest.<br />
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Is that a joke or can you actually be a suicide bomber, cause what would the American gunners get? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:C4<br />
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It is then? Okay cool, I figured but I wasn't sure, I can't check because the 360 beta was delayed :( [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
== Best of 3 shooters? ==<br />
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I have to say, out of the 3 FPS games that will be coming out in Q4 (this one, Spec Ops: The Line, and CoD: Black Ops), I am looking forward to Medal of Honor the most. From what I've seen about the other two, they look like they're filled with sensationalist b.s. . -Any Mouse<br />
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:MoH looks WAY to much like Bad Company 2, and I think it's EAs fault. They want to capitalize on the modern warfare craze so much, they're using another popular series to boost sales. To be honest, MOH looks like BC2 with Taliban, and I'll most likely not be getting it. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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Medal of honor is not going to be way too much like BC2 because the gameplay will be much more tactical and realistic. Like real modern warfare.<br />
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:Says you man. Face it, it's going to be bought by the same type of people who buy MW2 and BC2, mostly idiot kids ranging from 10 to 15 who just wanna get four man sprays and noob tubes across the map. This is a console FPS that can be bought by anyone, and has nothing to offer that will make it overly unique, so it will end up like MW2 and BC2, noob weapons will arise, and it will just be another chaotic FPS. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
:You got a point there.<br />
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Spec Ops: the Line is a third person shooter, not an FPS.<br />
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Sorry, my bad. I thought it was one of those deals like Fallout 3 where you could switch from first-to-third-person and back -Any Mouse<br />
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== Animations ==<br />
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I know this is off-topic, but am I the only one bothered by the way your character moves? If a gun is bouncing around in your hands while you move like that, there's gotta be something wrong...<br />
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I think that only happens in multiplayer due to it being a different engine, but yeah it is weird<br />
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I was really psyched about the game untill i found out it was made by the people who made BF-BD2. you said it was a different engine. does that mean that it will be different creators or what? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Mp is made by BC2 (''not BD2'' ) creators - DICE. So it means only good part on that game will be SP - developed by EA on UT3 engine.<br />
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== Full Auto M16A4 ==<br />
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Wouldn't having an M16A4 on full auto make it a C7A1? I know there are a few other differences, but they're all internal, it's the only difference visible in some way. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:23, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Well I would have said M16A3, but those didn't have rails. So yes, the only M16 variant that has an RIS system and goes full-auto is the C7A2, so indeed this new game uses a C7. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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::M16A4 with FA lower - what could be easier<br />
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:Personally, I wouldn't call "full-auto" M16A4 a C7A2. C7A2 has some, more or less significant, differences - e.g. ambidextrous fire selector or retractable stock. Plus Canadian military did not use full length RIS systems (e.g. like King Arms M5 on M16A4) on their C7s. Full-auto M16A4 is just another game-developer inaccuracy created by lack of knowledge about firearms. Unfortunately, it's a trend in nowadays mainstream FPS like Modern Warfare or Battlefield Bad Company. Game developers just give a sh*t about this stuff. 13-year-old kids screaming and b*tching in multiplayer would not notice the difference. [Ragnar]<br />
:: 3-burst is for nubs that can't cut it by themselves.<br />
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::The M5 RAS on the M16A4 is made by KAC, not King Arms. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:33, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Of course I realize that having it full auto is just a screw up, like in most movies, and I'm not talking about the C7A2, with the green furniture and ambi controls, I meant the C7A1, which is the same in terms of appearance. Here's one without an ELCAN, because I know someone will complain about that:<br />
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/7/76/20080716042205!C7A1_with_IronSights.JPG<br />
Oh and you can put the KAC Rails on any M16-length AR, so that's not really an issue, some of the C7A1s (like the one pictured) had them put on before the C7A2 was introduced with the TRIAD. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It could be a C7, but really, it's just EA's lack of knowledge about weapons, cause full auto is what every assault rifle shoots, right? Man, games like Call of Duty 4 tried their best to keep weapons accurate, now it's all about tacticool weapons that fire full auto and have cool sights and nice finishes. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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Yeah I know, and guns don't need to be re-chambered after they run empty too :p in this and Bad Company 2, it's kind of distracting when I'm playing to be honest, well, I've gotten used to it a little more by now. Okay what I don't get is why can't it be listed as a C7A1? Or at least mentioned... If there was an gun listed as an M4 (not A1) and it was firing full auto you guys would have no problem saying it's actually an M4A1, or an AK-47 is really an AKM, so why can't the M16 really be a C7? I realize it's just a mistake on the developer's part, but that doesn't stop us pointing out the other ones... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:56, 2 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I think it would be a good idea if we mentioned that in reality, this would class it as a C7A1 etc. [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 18:26, 2 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Has there even ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game? At any rate, I think just noting that it's inaccurately portrayed as full auto is enough. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:43, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto! But yeah, just classify the M16 in MOH as a C7A1, cause in reality that's what it is. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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::http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/1009334.page<br />
Best 5 minutes of my life reading this! [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 20:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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''Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto!'' - Believe it or not, 4-position selectors for AR-15 type rifles exist. There should be a link to the patent in the Season 2 discussion. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 22:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The so-called "Green Berets" on that show were idiot actors who didn't do their research, so I don't really give a crap about what they say. The M4A1 as used by the US military is safe/semi/auto, no burst. 4-pos selectors may exist, but the US military does not use them. That also wasn't an answer my question. ''Have there ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game?'' By "burst-firing M4", I mean the M4 with M16A2/A4 trigger group as issued en mass to regular US Army troops. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I only know of two games that have M4s with the A2/A4 trigger group. There's one of the Call of Duty Modern Warfare games for the Nintendo DS, and then there's the Battlefield 2 mod [[Project Reality]], where it features both burst-firing M4s for the Americans and full-auto M4A1s for the Israelis.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:58, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thank you, that ''did'' answer my question. Also, lol @the thread on EA Forums. That was a pretty entertaining read. Though I quite disagree with the guy who claims you can't know anything about an M16 or other firearm without having handled or used one. I've never handled an M16, but I still know the difference between an A1, A2, A3, and A4. Good thing I quit bothering with that place within the first few days I registered, otherwise I'd probably be ankle-deep in that ****storm. XD [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 22:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::To Hoot471, that forum nearly gave me a headsplosion, how can people be so unbelievably ignorant and stupid?! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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== Hi-Def MP videos ==<br />
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You guys might want to check this out: On YouTube, there's someone by the name of deluxe345 who has Hi-Definition videos from the Medal of Honor multiplayer (there are 3 or 4). Also, in one of these videos, I spotted an M224 mortar in the killfeed.<br />
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==360 Beta?==<br />
Alright, does anyone on Earth have a clue when the 360 beta for this comes out!? PS3 and PC went up June 21st, and yet 360 is still delayed, anyone got a clue? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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I got deployed for deepwater horizon so no vid games till september. I seriously wish that the release had been on time, I could have played it.<br />
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==Clip/Magazine==<br />
A frivolous debate, but why oh why must they call the magazines "clips" in the game? Yuck. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
:I don't know why, but the same error happened in an episode in Lois & Clark. They probably got confused with clips and magazines since that they are both similar. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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There is nothing similar between a clip and a magazine. A Magazine is a block that stores the bullets, a clip is a strip of metal that holds the bullets that are then FED into a Magazine. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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They could have said the slang term "mag" though.<br />
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=="The Catalyst" Linkin Park song trailer==<br />
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Well, there gave been some new guns spotted and i already identified few of them. But can someone help me with this ?<br />
[[Image:MOHUNKNOWNGUN.JPG|500px|thumb|center|]]<br />
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Magazine seems to wide and big for 5.56. I truly need help with this.<br />
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Could it be the 417 ?<br />
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:Why is it that people immediatly assume a HK 416 or a HK 417 when it comes to this kind of thing? People apparently have never heard of a AR 10 before.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 19:41, 27 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm pretty sure the MP5 is shown at one point in the trailer. I'd have to look at the trailer again to find the exact point, but I'll update when I do find the time stamp. Lets hope we see the MP5 in multiplayer as well as the campaign if my spot is correct. Also, I'm pretty sure the picture shown above is just the M4A1, but I'm not 100%. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 22:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
1:30 seconds in, on the operator's chest. I am pretty sure that's an MP5A3 or A5. Can anyone confirm? --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 23:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That's M4 or might be h&k 416. Clip is just taped. Also, all this specop theme became too popularized after MW1. Don't like.<br />
::It's called a Magazine or Mag. Don't like [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::After re-watching the video for the 17th or so time, the weapon I thought was the MP5 was just an MP7 that blended a little too well into the vest. That said, I did notice that one of the Rangers in the trailer was using an Aimpoint M68 (Comp M2) sight on his M4A1. Possibly another sight option? Who knows. I just know I'm excited for this game.<br />
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It's an M4 kitted out with an EOTech 552, KAC Free-Float RAS, PEQ-2A, and KAC broomstick. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Unimpressed....==<br />
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Anybody else feel unimpressed looking at this game? I mean, nothing about it really stands out to me. The firearm selection is trite and cliche, the modern military tacticool spec ops motif has been done far too much, and so has the idea of weapon customization. Honestly, when I saw this game I just kinda yawned and moved on. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 19:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
: About that firearms choose : So you would give terrorists XM8´s, just because its cliche in video games ? No. So why not give them weapons they use in real ?<br />
: No I wouldn't, unless a terrorist militia could plausibly get it hand's on a bunch of HK weapons. I'm just sort of sick of seeing the same stuff over and over and over. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 09:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I actually see this as a good change from Modern Warfare and Bad Company rather than yet another tacticool game. Sure, most of it has been done, but so has most other games. At least its not YET another World War 2 sim.--[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 20:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC) <br />
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But see, that's the whole thing. Instead of "yet another WW2 sim," it's become "yet another Spec Ops shooter." And for the record, I liked Bad Company, and I don't see how this will be any different. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 23:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I am truly impressed with this game. Lets talk about it as MW2 on steroids : <br />
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:'''Much more realistic''' ('' Cmon, Russians with tavors and milita with tactical AK´s ?'' )<br />
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:'''Much better atmosphere''' ( ''That attempt to make everything cool just failed. Also enviroment wasnt the best seriously'' )<br />
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:'''Better Gameplay''' ( ''It probably wont be just about shooting thousands of enemy troops. Also helicopter. Probably even some AI will be included ?'' )<br />
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Then I better get this for my 360 then PC, cause the graphics are just as high as BC 2 so it'll mess with my PC. The Multiplayer was designed by the same guys who did Bad Company, so we see a lot of their handy work. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, comparing ANYTHING to MW2 instantly makes it better. And if what excalibur says is true, then I'm inclined to go with what everybody else has been saying and write it off as Bad Company 2 with Taliban. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 11:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
: We are talking about SP. MP will be BC2 clone ( ''Yeah. Same people are doing it, why not then ?'' ).. But SP will be better :P<br />
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Heavily looking forward to SP. MP might as well be called "Call of Duty: Bad Company 8".<br />
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Oh yeah, I'd certainly be willing to try the single player if it looks any good. Not sure if I'd pay full release price for it though, I'll probably go out and buy it later on when it gets down to like 40 bucks. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 14:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I just find it odd that they'd get a completely different group to do the multiplayer and when you look at the multiplayer, it feels like MW2 but with a different game engine. The point and level up system is essentially the same, but the classes are almost the same from Bad Company. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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To be honest, I had high hopes for this game, but with the "Catalyst" trailer (overly dramatic acting plus ear-bleeding Linkin Park= FAIL), it just looks like something else that fanboys will be able to wax their carrots to. Ain't no way in hell I'm shelling out $60 just to hear some USI-infested teenager (whose gamertag is [USMC]"xxSwaggaSniperxx" or something else that sounds mall ninja-ish) cuss me out after I've killed him twice in a row.[[Special:Contributions/74.192.58.206|74.192.58.206]]<br />
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I watched said trailer and completely gave up on this game. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 09:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Yeah. After this, we're gonna hear a bunch of kids running around yelling "yaaah I am teh Tier 1!" Methinks that some top dog at EA got a boner after reading Sean Naylor's ''Not a Good Day to Die'' and got the idea to rehash a great book and dumb it down into a cheap vidya game.[[Special:Contributions/74.192.58.206|74.192.58.206]] 22:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Everyone, this is a video game. Nobody cares how realistic or how the story is, if you can shoot thing and take control of an over exaggeration of our armed forces, then people will buy it no matter what; it sells.<br />
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We care! Unrealistic video games do not bother us, but a video game that is suppose to be realistic and ends up not being realistic does bother us. This is IMFDB, we are suppose to judge how realistic weapons are in media. The SkinnyWhiteGuy from the RE: Extinction discussion.<br />
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== Dragunov ==<br />
Where did it come from that the NDM-86 is in 7.62x51mm? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
: Oh, wait, what ?<br />
::Look at the mag in the weapon selection screen shot. It's clearly not the Dragunov's standard mag and a straight 7.62x51mm mag. I agree with whoever did the change that it's the NDM-86. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 13:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, i have done it. And it doesnt have anything to do with 7.62x51, its actually standart .308 winchester. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Last I checked, the .308 was the civilian version of the 7.62 NATO. So in other words, it's the same round for the purposes of this discussion. Don't mean to sound rude or anything, just something to think about. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 14:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::: ( ''Wow, so many "''':'''" symbols'' ) Well, .308 is more powerfull i think. But whatever - Im glad someone agrees that NDM-86 is there. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::It's the same basic round, 7.62 NATO is just loaded to a higher pressure than civilian .308, I think. But I now see what you mean about the mag. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:35, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Speaking of Soviet-bloc weapons, whoever labeled the AK-47 as a "Type 56" may want to check the picture where the player is looking down the sights (Hint: the front sight is not fully enclosed)<br />
: I just renamed SVD. Type 56 is someone else´s job. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 17:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Why is the AK labeled a Type 56? it has a open sight and no pig-sticker. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Reverted it back to AK-47. I'd like to hear the explanation as to why it was changed in the first place. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 03:59, 18 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Granted there are lots of Type 56 rifles in the middle east because of the CIA, but this gun just isn't.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 19:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Ugh...==<br />
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38740099/ns/technology_and_science-games/<br />
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words cannot describe how incredibly stupid I think this is. Nobody makes a big fuss when the Taliban is put in a movie, but the SECOND people even THINK of putting it in a VIDEO GAME... I admit, I do see how people could take this the wrong way, but seriously... it's just a game. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 19:48, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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We have 'American soldiers' dying in games like Modern Warfare 2 and BC2, but no one raises a fuss. Deal with it, news outlets. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 20:38, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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God forbid our enemy get slandered in a video game!--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:40, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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thats more political bull shit. i dont know a person in america who likes the taliban. its a game. playing as the taliban doesnt mean you like their "self-righteous" and stupid anti-american ideas. thats like saying because your playing as Spetznaz in MW2 that your being insensitive. people care when you play as talibans. but dont even mention "No Russian" [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 20:54, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Wait, they don't make bad press articles about Grand Theft Auto 4 when that came out and sold millions, but when it comes to a game based on real soldiers, games have crossed the line? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:46, 18 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It gets worse than that on this side of the water; the British Defence Secretary has called for the game to be '''banned'''.<br />
[http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100822/ttc-fox-urges-ban-on-taliban-video-game-e1d36ba.html Seriously.]<br />
[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 08:42, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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'''JESUS''' Didnt you play as insurgent in MW ? Didnt you control nazi plane in all those WW flying simulators ? They are crazy. Right now, im glad that politicans are stupid in my country. Seriously, they dont even know about some MoH.<br />
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It's shocking that someone would think it acceptable to recreate the acts of the Taliban. At the hands of the Taliban, children have lost fathers and wives have lost husbands.<br />
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^^ No kidding? Same with the Nazis, and yet it's perfectly ok to play as them. There's nothing I hate more than double fucking standards. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 14:31, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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"I am disgusted and angry. It's hard to believe any citizen of our country would wish to buy such a thoroughly un-British game. I would urge retailers to show their support for our armed forces and ban this tasteless product." <br />
Let's get something straight here. I have played as Russian Spetsnaz, killing American and British soldiers. I have played as Japanese soldiers, killing American infantry. I have played as THE NAZIS, for god's sake, who not only killed Americans and British soldiers but also took part in the wholesale slaughter of the Jewish people. I have played as a Russian terrorist and mowed down an AIRPORT full of defenseless people, I have played as a drug dealing criminal with the option to kill innocents, a hitman with the option to brutally kill my targets, and yet if I get the option to play as a bunch of fucking towelheads, the game is an affront to humanity and needs to be BANNED? People need to wake the fuck up. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 14:26, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It is beginning to smack of controversy for controversy's sake. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:41, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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And now it's made its way across the pond: [http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/111/1117837p1.html] --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 21:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/103328-Jack-Thompson-Vows-to-Stop-Medal-of-Honor Guess who's jumped on the bandwagon and demonstrated a mile of research-fail in the process?] [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 08:01, 13 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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"the high level of realism makes it an effective training tool for the Taliban and other forces currently engaged with the U.S. military."<br />
>because the Taliban only uses lefty configured guns, and they happen to have ALL the next gen consoles in their holes. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 19:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== CONFIRMED new Weapons? ==<br />
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This Gameplay is from Gamescom 2010. This footage confirms the F2000 , the P90 , And others (pleae watch the killfeed, VERY Closely to see the names<br />
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http://www.gamepro.com/video/gameplay/146685/medal-of-honor-gc2010-cam-gameplay/<br />
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I got two screens, one confirming weapon customization (Thankgod maybe no Gl's on all assault rifles :'] ) and one of the F2000 WITH Correct Grenade Launcher fitting (Removed handgaurd for placement)<br />
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In the killfeed, there is two weapons tht are unknown to most people one is called Axe (whether we get Custom Melee weapons is uncertain) and the other is HG No full name just an abbrieviation of HG.<br />
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I recall someone mentioning that the axe was the Taliban's equivalent of the knife for multiplayer. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 19:03, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Oh yeah, the dirks use a hachet instead of a knife in the beta, kinda funny. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 21:01, 27 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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HG could be short for hand granade<br />
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Hmm could be, but I think Grenades on the killfeed appear as either GRENADE or an explosion/grenade symbol, ill rewatch the video(s) and look for any indication that HG is something other than a Hand Grenade [[User:WhatARandomer|WhatARandomer]] 12:50, 25 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Updated the page with weapons seen in the new MP trailer. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 19:15, 27 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Games in Steven Speilberg category?==<br />
Should we put all of the MoH games into the Steven Speilberg category as he's the creator of the series? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 23:11, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well are there any credits for Speilberg having a hand in THIS Medal of Honor game? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Wikipedia just says that he's the creator of the series, not a designer of the series. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:19, 30 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Sure, but did he have a hand in this one? Just because he created the series, doesn't mean he's been behind the entire series up to now. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:18, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Graphical Engine for the game==<br />
I was watching a video on Medal of Honor and it stated that the single-player campaign is using the Unreal 3 Engine and the multiplayer will be using the Frostbite Engine (made famous by Bad Company). Just thought you guys would like to know! [[User:SeanWolf]]<br />
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This doesn't make sense. Why make the singleplayer with one engine and use a completely different engine for multiplayer? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:21, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Old news, buddy. Maybe you should change your username to SeanSlowpoke. I keed, but not much.-protoAuthor 02:23, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hey dont blame me..i just found out about that when i was watching a video about the game. Plus, i usually dont hear about video game news until the day after, so yeah. But still, yeah it doesnt make sense to use two different graphical engines for the game but who knows... [[User:SeanWolf]]<br />
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The reason for this is EA: LA are incharge of Singleplayer, and DICE are incharge of multiplayer, both using engines they're familiar with. [[User:WhatARandomer|WhatARandomer]] 08:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:Medal_of_Honor_(2010)&diff=328138Talk:Medal of Honor (2010)2010-09-13T19:56:34Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Ugh... */</p>
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<div>==New Sidearms confirmed!==<br />
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SF has a Glock.<br />
Ranger has the M9.<br />
And someone we havent seen named Rabbit Has a Sig. Navy Seal im guessing<br />
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"When you play as "Rabbit" you carry a Sig. When you play as "Deuce" you carry a Glock. And when you are Dante Adams you carry the M9. These weapons can never be dropped, never run out of ammunition, and are an integral part of each character’s identity. The variety in these side arms is also intended to help give distinction and personality to each of the characters represented in "Neptune", "Wolfpack" and 1/75th Ranger"<br />
:I have two things to say about that. One, I'm happy I wont have to look at an M9 throughout the campaign. Two, I hope they allow you to pick which pistol you use in mp since it'd effectively wouldn't change the balance at all. Just allow more individualism to the players. Did I mention I'm really tired of seeing the M9 in my games?<br />
::Forgive Beretta if they've created one of the most successful pistols of all time, and it happens to be used by the U.S. military. So...I think either you should go design a new gun to replace it, or just live with it. Unless of course you want them to have the U.S. standard sidearm be an HK P30 just to be 'original'.<br />
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:Like most games the handguns will have different powers even if they're the same caliber, I'm betting. At least in Multiplayer anyways. Because in the level up screen you can see a level up sidearm section. And I'm hopeing only pistol are sidearms. Unlike modern 2 which had Shotguns and Machine pistols, which unbalanced the game<br />
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:You DO remember the first Modern Warfare where you can have TWO primary weapons on you, that's even worse. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:54, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Actually, MoH gives you two primaries and your secondary. Which actually isn't as bad as most would think. Some operators use a shotgun and their AR, and I'm sure having an SMG, a pistol and an M4 wouldn't be too bad, since I did it once for a test of my webgear for a review. Also, it's possible they could just use the different pistol models as just that, models. Same stats, but different appearance. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 05:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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If you really think about it, having 2 Primaries on you, plus your sidearm is just too much. Maybe for a shotgun, but even then. You'd have 3 sets of reloads and it's already heavy on you. The only times An operator needs a shotgun alongside his rifle is that he needs to breach a door and no one else has a shotgun. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:23, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I agree with ya about the having 3 different reloads, but depending on the weapons, the weight isn't so bad, or at least less noticeable. Anyway, it really could be worse. They could have you carrying two different types of rocket launchers and a machine gun like you can do in the Halo series. <br />
:At least they're making it so that you don't ditch a pistol two seconds into a level. I've always hated how any sidearm looses all use less than a minute into a game.--[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 06:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Am I the only one here distressed by the ''unlimited ammo'' aspect of the sidearms? This game is getting to be more and more ridiculous as it is. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: Remember MW2 ? 400 rounds was total standard. And there isnt any true difference between ''unlimited'' and 400.<br />
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I liked it back when you can keep your sidearm and just pick up another primary. Sure it's a bit unrealistic to be carrying the max ammo for that gun, but not as unrealistic as dropping your handgun for a shotgun [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:''The setup that Army of Two had was kinda neat. One primary (usually an assault rifle), your sidearm (a handgun or machine pistol), and a special weapon, like a sniper rifle or launcher of some sort - the special weapon usually had the least amount of ammo available. I'd like to see that for a game like this, and frankly, it'd make a lot more sense (I know about Rainbow Six: Vegas, but I'm quite unimpressed with how that game flows to be honest with you). When going into heavy combat, I'd like to have some kind of quickly accessible sidearm for when the shit well and truly hits the fan. If my main weapon runs dry and I need to switch, the backup shouldn't be a long gun that's equally as...cumbersome to bear as the rifle was (MW2, I'm looking at you). As for unlimited ammo, well, that's a tough one for me. Sometimes I really like having that capability (such as in Splinter Cell: Conviction with their sidearms). Other times, well, it's nice to know that I can't just fire all willy-nilly and carefree, because then I'll be out of ammo. I think that it should be an unlockable bonus - like Saints Row 2 or Resident Evil 5. Give people the option to play with it on or off, if they choose. Just don't glitch it like CoD4 did. --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 22:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)''<br />
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Where was it shown you get two primarys? Pretty sure its one primary and sidearm. Ive never seen or read about that in this game.<br />
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==Knife?==<br />
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I watched the "Leave a Message" trailer recently. I think one of the Rangers had a Gerber LMF II knife attached to his MOLLE vest. I own this same knife which is why it caught my eye.<br />
:Maybe so, but we need to avoid putting knives down. Yes, the MW2 page as well as some others have knives, but I'm in favor of removing said knives from said pages entirely. The site is called Internet Movie '''Firearms''' Database for a reason. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 06:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
I prefer it to have ALL weapons listed its interesting and gives more content.<br />
:''In that case, list it here in the discussion page when the game releases. A great example of this is the page for 2004's The Punisher. GM45 (I think it was him) took great care to screencap the variety of knives that movie had and list them there (among other things). But he left the main body of the page for the guns, which is why people come to this website.'' --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 22:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==beta release date?==<br />
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When will 360 beta be out? I keep hearing within a week but have seen no announcements by the company.<br />
:http://twitter.com/medalofhonor<br />
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Both links failed, and im getting pissed waiting, gives you high hopes for the games multiplayer when a short beta is this delayed......<br />
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I heard somewhere they're going to run it after they fix the bugs from the PS3/PC Betas, after they're done, because it will allow them to find new problems and because it saves money. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==weapon balance==<br />
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i just saw the 12 round beretta mentioned i think they did that for balance reasons. Another game too focused on fairness. God forbid you unlock a gun later on that just owns. <br />
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Yeah its kind of annoying when its that balanced, at least you could pretend its the .40, but I wouldn't even know what to do with the Grach, its named the Tariq (which is something else) and has 12 rounds too, when its supposed to have 17. Wait, couldn't they both just have been 16 to be in between? If I WAS going to make an overly balanced system like this, I'd try to make it close, why take them both down to 12? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Haha too bad there isn't one... WAIT! If you really want to stretch it you could pretend its the compact MP-448, 12 rounds of 9x18mm lol :D [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I hate when the do something like "the m4 has 20 power and 30 fire rate, the AK has 30 power and 20 fire rate, so there balanced. Then they go weapon x is more accurate than weapon y since its weaker and needs an advantage. I wish when you leveled up you had guns with good advantages that just own.<br />
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I want a game that keeps the round in the chamber, keeps track of your extra mags (not the one big number bullshit), all the functions to be right, none of the guns to be set in a firing mode they're not in, the ability to switch modes to whatever that weapon has, the correct attachments (no AKs with ACOGs, or M14s and G3s with M203s), the correct animations for reloads, correct fire rates, correct mag capacities, correct zooms on scopes and no zoom on reflex sights/irons sights, its not really too much to ask I don't think. The only thing that would be arguable would be damage stuff does, but for the MOST part if you used the calibre measurement as the damage it would work (i.e. 5.56mm does about 22 damage, 7.62mm does 30, .50 does 50) it's not perfect but I at least want the guns with the same calibres to do the same damage... Rant done. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 22:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There is a game for you, it's called ArmA. Mainstream arcadey FPS won't have all these features. But I agree at least counting bullet up the pipe would be nice touch. That always bugged me too. I have no idea why CoD games still doesn't have this. Anyway, ACOG (or any other weaver optic) on AK is not a problem via special mount. 203 on G3 and M14 is possible too.<br />
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Oh believe me, I wouldn't need ALL that, I still play the mainstream FPSs, it would just be nice, I just kept going with the list ;) And I do know you can technically put an ACOG on an AK or a 203 on the M14 or G3, but it would be nice to see the things that are supposed to be there... there, like the HK79. The attachments thing certainly wouldn't be as important to me as the round in the chamber, and I don't think guns of the same calibre having the same damage would be too much, its not that would take any extra effort... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Same caliber doesn't always do same damage when shot from different barrels. M16 and M4 is a good example. In case with M16 bullet tumble and fragment thus making more damage, but when the same ammo shot from M4 it does not.<br />
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I knew that but didn't want to make my posts too long ;)That's fair, I meant more the stuff that doesn't make sense, like a 12 gauge that does more damage than another 12 gauge because it's pump action vs semi-auto, or like in Modern Warfare 2, which is the game I'm mostly complaning about, the F2000 has a 15.7" barrel and does 30 damage, while the TAR-21 has an 18.1" does 40, I know the idea of damage as a numerical system like this isn't realistic in a lot of ways, but it's the best anyone has been able to come up with so far, and I wouldn't think 2.4 inches of barrel would make that much of a difference. Put it this way, out of the 9 assault rifles in that game there are only 3 different damages, the 30, 40, and 55, keep in mind that the calibres here are 5.56, 7.62, and 7.62 NATO: the M4, ACR, and F2000 do 30, the FAMAS, SCAR, TAR-21, M16A4, and AK-47 do the same (lol what?) at 40, and the FAL does a whopping 55 (because its semi). But the single worst is the UMP and Super V, both .45s with a comparible barrel length, the UMP does 40 (again) and the the Super V does... 25. I know there should be differences but this makes NO SENSE. Sorry, I know this is the Medal Of Honor page, but everyone here seems smarter... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It's not a simulator. They needed to differentiate gun's performance. Besides, most people playing it doesn't know shit which caliber it shoots. So probably it's better to just get over it. Try playing hardcore mode and weapon damage won't bother you so much.<br />
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I know :) it doesn't really matter too much, it would just be nice, but I'm not expecting it though lol [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 06:40, 25 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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seriously, no 1911 very disapointing. it might be outdated but Special Forces still use them. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Who said there won't be a 1911 in the final game? This isn't the final game. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 00:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
i dont know. i just figured since its not on the page already they wouldnt have it. but i hope they do. its a great gun and is used by Spec Ops. [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 00:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
i think that all the comparisons come from MW2 because it has an overwhelming amount of flaws. for example- what has been previously stated. and does anyone else find it peculiar that all assault rifles lose the front sight when optics are attached? knowone would do that its stupid. what if there was a long battle and you ran out of battery on a dime, nope your dead now. and i kind of agree with the lack of a back sight because it takes away the point of the reflex being quick if you have to line 3 things to a target instead of the 1-2 or a normal rifle.<br />
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==First Part==<br />
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This game looks very promising in terms of realism and graphics compared to the other games. I'm excited to see that the game developers are working with REAL special forces operators. The game comes out in Fall 2010. CAN'T FREAKIN WAIT!!!!!!- ArmoredMason619<br />
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I've always had a soft spot with this series. I really hope they knock it out of the park with this one. <br />
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I'm guessing the guy on the front cover is a Green Beret?-- [[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]<br />
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:For some reason I though the guy on the front page was a PMC --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 05:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Na he is a Green Beret. That's the way they look when they are in a combat zone. They have to grow out a beard and dress like the civilians/insurgents in that particular area.-ArmoredMason619<br />
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A World War II shooter series is switching to a modern setting? It'll never work.<br />
:Your kidding right...and sign your posts --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 23:25, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The graphics appear to be on par with ''[[America's Army 3]]'', though hopefully it'll have less problems and a better weapon selection. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The trailer had what looked like an [[FN Minimi#M249-E1 / M249-E2 / M249 Paratrooper SAW|M249 SAW]] variant fitted with an EOTech red dot sight, but I only saw it for a second looking down the sights in first-person mode so couldn't determine wether it was a standard SAW or specialized version like the Paratrooper or [[FN Minimi#FN Minimi SPW|SPW]]. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 23:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I added a screen of the M4A1 and the Minimi/SAw possibilty. --[[User:TheCrazyGunNut|TheCrazyGunNut]]<br />
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Ah, cheap EA.. This is so obvious that they are doing this because of MW success. Won't buy just because of this fact.<br />
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Or because WWII has been overdone and they wanted to do something else. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 02:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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20th century saw so many wars. They could pick any one. The most suitable would be Vietnam war. I can't recall many good games about this conflict. It could be about SF also.<br />
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How about Vietcong? http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Vietcong In my personal oppinion the best PC game from Vietnam conflict up to date. I know that the Vietcong wasn't perfect but other games usually wasted their potential (e.g. Conflict Vietnam, Men of Valor) ended as a low quality budget (first Shellshock 67 and many others) or as some crazy VC/NVA-zombie kill fest (recent Shellshock 2). <br />
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I agree that there were many other "interesting" conflicts or suitable theathers for FPS games but "supply is influenced by demand". The "anti-terrorist" theme is actual and developers don't want to risk introducing a game that "nobody would want to play". Remember it's all about the money. Actually it's quite strange that if I look backwards I can't recall any good or partially realistic FPS from Afganistan or Iraq theatre - Modern Warefare, appart from other parts of the story, was set partialy in the Middle East but in some fictisious country (and that *** spoliler *** nuking of the whole Marine division *** spoiler *** was complete bullshit) and Modern Warefare 2 was about hunting down some crazy Russian ultranationalists (and *** spoiler *** one rouge American general *** spoiler *** that was bullshit as well). No offence to Call of Duty but I personally hope that Medal of Honor would not turn into such killfest of stupid AI NPC duchebags thrown in absolutely ridiculous waves into a single coridor where you have to kill more than 70 opponents on less than 100 square feet ...<br />
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:::Wow, so doing something original is bullshit? I mean, come on; I'd rather shoot 70 guys in a single cooridor than simply go from cave to cave, shooting the occasional militant, or riding about in my vehicle until I hit a bomb and get ambushed. Generic examples I know, but put simply, fighting a military-trained, fully-equipped soldier is a lot more exciting than some fanatical militant using 30-year-old weapons. Heck, even America's Army created a fictional enemy for the US Army to fight.<br />
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Judging by what I'm seeing in the trailer this is going to be far from any CoD style of modern warfare. This shit looks seriously hardcore in terms of trying to replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay. I guess only time will tell. Hopefully by then they fix the damn gas block thing. Fuck that pisses me off. These guys are working with tier 1 operators but they don't want to model the damn gun correctly. Anybody with even slight knowledge of an AR-15 platform would notice this error. It's a big frickin error.[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]<br />
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:::"replicate actual Iraq/Afghanistan gameplay"? So coalition forces playing in a sandbox there? And duh, there is a gas-block, it's just too low-profile and you cannot see it.<br />
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::::Even if the gas block isn't there, does it really matter? The average gamer probably doesn't know, or care, what a gas block is, let alone whether it's actually there or not; and the Medal of Honor series goes for what looks cool (such as the Flak Tower in Airborne), not what's realistic.<br />
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Don't change the intent of my words. Let me rephrase :::"replicate some actual Iraq/Afghanistan fighting into gameplay." There happy? As well the use of a low profile gas block seems like an excuse. What are the chances that every M4 has a low profile gas block when there are attached optics?[[User:ShaDow XPS|ShaDow XPS]]<br />
:::Why not? It's a game about hi-speed low-drag tear1 omfgd3ltasealz special forces operators.<br />
::::That's ''Tier'' 1. And even a low-profile gas block would still be visible on the barrel where the standard FSP would be due to the length of the gas tube. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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North American release date is October 12, 2010. Europe is October 15.-- [[User:John Ryder|John Ryder]]<br />
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^ At 0:56, 1:04, 1:16 you can see a stock, body, and barrel of a M14 EBR.<br />
At O:43 you can see what I believe to be some kind of M240.*EDIT: Mk 46 Mod 0* <br />
All along the trailer are M4s with optics and different accessories. -DeltaOp<br />
:Was the Mark 14 EBR even fielded yet in 2002? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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- Nope. EBR was designed around that date - 2001/2002 but first units (mostly from Navy Seals) were issued this rifle later on in 2004. So it's probably another game inaccuracy.<br />
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Who said it was set in 2002? And the gas block isn't removed for optics like in Call Of Duty, it's removed when the M203's flip up sight is on top, I'm thinking it's not to block that, not that I think it would block it, but that's when it's not there, not because of optics. EDIT: Wow my bad, it is set then, and I was thinking the M203 was an attachment, but its fixed on like in BFBC2, wow, I feel dumb lol. EDIT #2: I figured it out, the M16 removes the front sight for optics, but the M4 doesn't. Odd. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Green Beret on cover ==<br />
It's ''Cowboy''! [http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/12/03/news-bearded-guy-on-medal-of-honor-cover-is-real.aspx] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 01:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Lmao. Oh i didnt think of that one. -[[User:The_Winchester|Winn]]<br />
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Anyone think its kinda odd that the Rangers seem to be doing alot of the work. along with the Green Beret. Wouldnt Delta Force/Navy SEALs be doing most of the stuff?<br />
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1st SFOD-D and Navy SEALs are, let's say, "equal" to Special Forces concerning their roles within US SOCOM. They are highly trained operators used for specific and "delicate" stuff. Rangers are more like muscless used for more "dirty" tasks. In reality, you would rather send a Special Forces A-Team to do cool things like - to recon the enemy airfield, to pin point potential high-value targets, to set observation post for calling CAS missions or to set sniping posts with 18B class operators with sniper rifles; while few C-130s packed with Ranger chalks would wait to "go-order" so they can jump in, do all the hard work and blow the enemy to pieces. Special Forces (Delta/SEALs etc.) are too valuable for such things. Even though, they are capable of kicking some serious ass, it is not practical to "mass" several A- or SEAL teams for a task, which bunch of Ranger squads could do better.[Ragnar]<br />
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okay thats true, but i just dont see why there wouldnt be SOME Operators or SEALs, think about this. Rangers are like the backbone of USSOCOM, Green Berets, are trained in Reconaissance, but if u want to kick some serious Taliban ass, u send in Operators or SEALs, because they excel at kickin' the door down, and opening up some whoop-ass. [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 00:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Who is the "Operators"?<br />
::Delta "Operators". [[User:Pz.Abt.100|Pz.Abt.100]] 22:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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but really, i no Delta is more of a mission specific unit, but seriously what is America's best military asset? 1stSFOD-D. why? because they have close to 500 Operators, the best in the world. and officially they dont exist. political bull shit in the way, no problemo. they dont exist. its denieble if you send them in.[[Special:Contributions/71.194.219.9|71.194.219.9]] 19:03, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Guns revealed in multi-player demo at E3 ==<br />
(These are just what I could spot while watching it on TV)<br />
*Beretta 92FS/M9 (not a 92SB like in CoD, had the squared-off trigger guard)<br />
*Pump-action shotgun I couldn't identify (they only showed it from the back)<br />
*Bolt-action sniper rifle, presumably a Remington M24 (only saw it from the back and right side as the player was working the bolt)<br />
*Not actually a new gun, but the M4A1 also had a low-profile front BUIS mounted on the RIS is some scenes<br />
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If you check the kill feed immediately after the kill with the sniper rifle, the identifies the unknown rifle as a Sako M57. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:25, 15 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I found some footage: http://videos.pcgames.de/v/MuuqC3iXMpw/Medal-of-Honor/Multiplayer-Gameplay-E3-2010/ (the shotgun is a TOZ-194)<br />
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More confirmed weapons. I recommend you keep your eye to the left of the screen, below the radar, to see some weapons we have missed while watching the video.<br />
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RPK-Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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RPG 7-In-game footage<br />
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AK-47-Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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AT-4 (I think by the ingame footage)<br />
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M9- From ingame footage <br />
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SVD Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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M249 Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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TT-30 Seen ingame<br />
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MP7A1 This one was very hard to see (Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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M-21 Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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870MCS Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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M60 Can be seen as a weapon that killed the player on the screen (look left of gameplay)<br />
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== List ==<br />
I'm gonna put all the ones I've seen down, so we've got one big list (this is all from the 11 minute long multiplayer video, both seen on screen and on the killfeed) If the names are given (killfeed ones) I'm writing them exactly as they are named in game. For the ones that aren't named I'll name them what they are.<br />
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M16<br />
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M203<br />
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AK-47<br />
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GP-30<br />
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M249<br />
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PKM<br />
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M4<br />
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AKS-74u<br />
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870MCS<br />
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TOZ-194<br />
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AT4<br />
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RPG-7<br />
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M21<br />
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SVD (NOTE: Has a straight .308 magazine)<br />
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M24<br />
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SV-98<br />
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M9<br />
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MP-443 (NOTE: Appears as the Tariq, which I thought that was an Iraqi-made Beretta clone...)<br />
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(From here down is not in the Beta)<br />
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RPK<br />
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MP7A1<br />
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M240<br />
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M60<br />
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M14 EBR (Seen in other videos. It is NOT the same as the M21 like it is in certain other games, the M21 has a normal M21 type body and stock, BOTH are in this.) [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 04:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Spliting into sections ==<br />
Wont it make sence to make two sections ? One with MP´s guns and one with SP´s guns. I think it will - because they dont use same engine, so guns can be different.<br />
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Why would the single player and multiplayer use different engines? That makes no sense. It would make the modelers have to model everything twice, and take up twice as much space on disc. No. We're not going to do that.-protoAuthor 19:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: It '''USES''' different engines. MP is running on frostbite, and SP is running on UT3 one.<br />
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Not sure if i'm doing this right, but yes it uses different engines, and the modelers do not have to model everything twice, they can easily import it from a common format to both engine's formats, PSK Mesh (or something) for UT3, and a new version of bundledmesh contained in RES files for frostbite. You don't have to model it twice, you just export within both engines.<br />
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:It still makes no sense to split up the page. But thank you for enlightening me to something that still makes no sense to me. Why would they do that?-protoAuthor 16:54, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The only reason i could possibly see would be to make a comparable multiplayer experience for BFBC2 players, And they might have already started building singleplayer on the unreal engine, which most if not all of the previous MoH games used. In my opinion, it shouldn't be split either, means some firearms would be listed twice. btw this isn't the original poster, this is the guy from the post before proto's last.<br />
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: Ok than. It doesnt have to be split, but there should be atlest writed to each screenshot " This is from Multiplayer/ Singleplayer". And just one little '''BTW''': They modelled it twice. As you can see, M4 or MK46 '''''HAVE''''' different models.<br />
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That's because the M4 and Mk. 46 are different guns, silly.-protoAuthor 04:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Heh. I mean that M4 looks different in SP and MP. Same with Mk.46<br />
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They do look different but I think its just because one sets from that first trailer a while ago, game's graphics always get better as develpment keeps going, but you might be right to, I was just throwing that out there. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 08:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== LMG Special Weapons ==<br />
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In the sniper class you get C4, in the special ops class you get a rocket, and with an assault rifle in the rifleman class you get a launcher... so what do you get if you equip an LMG? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 09:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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more ammo?<br />
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:Absolutely nothing. You have 2 spare 150 round mags (in the beta, with the PK).<br />
::You have self-destruct vest.<br />
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Is that a joke or can you actually be a suicide bomber, cause what would the American gunners get? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 21:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
:C4<br />
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It is then? Okay cool, I figured but I wasn't sure, I can't check because the 360 beta was delayed :( [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
== Best of 3 shooters? ==<br />
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I have to say, out of the 3 FPS games that will be coming out in Q4 (this one, Spec Ops: The Line, and CoD: Black Ops), I am looking forward to Medal of Honor the most. From what I've seen about the other two, they look like they're filled with sensationalist b.s. . -Any Mouse<br />
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:MoH looks WAY to much like Bad Company 2, and I think it's EAs fault. They want to capitalize on the modern warfare craze so much, they're using another popular series to boost sales. To be honest, MOH looks like BC2 with Taliban, and I'll most likely not be getting it. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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Medal of honor is not going to be way too much like BC2 because the gameplay will be much more tactical and realistic. Like real modern warfare.<br />
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:Says you man. Face it, it's going to be bought by the same type of people who buy MW2 and BC2, mostly idiot kids ranging from 10 to 15 who just wanna get four man sprays and noob tubes across the map. This is a console FPS that can be bought by anyone, and has nothing to offer that will make it overly unique, so it will end up like MW2 and BC2, noob weapons will arise, and it will just be another chaotic FPS. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
:You got a point there.<br />
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Spec Ops: the Line is a third person shooter, not an FPS.<br />
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Sorry, my bad. I thought it was one of those deals like Fallout 3 where you could switch from first-to-third-person and back -Any Mouse<br />
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== Animations ==<br />
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I know this is off-topic, but am I the only one bothered by the way your character moves? If a gun is bouncing around in your hands while you move like that, there's gotta be something wrong...<br />
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I think that only happens in multiplayer due to it being a different engine, but yeah it is weird<br />
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I was really psyched about the game untill i found out it was made by the people who made BF-BD2. you said it was a different engine. does that mean that it will be different creators or what? [[User:Dirtdiver6421|Dirtdiver6421]] 17:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Mp is made by BC2 (''not BD2'' ) creators - DICE. So it means only good part on that game will be SP - developed by EA on UT3 engine.<br />
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== Full Auto M16A4 ==<br />
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Wouldn't having an M16A4 on full auto make it a C7A1? I know there are a few other differences, but they're all internal, it's the only difference visible in some way. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:23, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Well I would have said M16A3, but those didn't have rails. So yes, the only M16 variant that has an RIS system and goes full-auto is the C7A2, so indeed this new game uses a C7. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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::M16A4 with FA lower - what could be easier<br />
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:Personally, I wouldn't call "full-auto" M16A4 a C7A2. C7A2 has some, more or less significant, differences - e.g. ambidextrous fire selector or retractable stock. Plus Canadian military did not use full length RIS systems (e.g. like King Arms M5 on M16A4) on their C7s. Full-auto M16A4 is just another game-developer inaccuracy created by lack of knowledge about firearms. Unfortunately, it's a trend in nowadays mainstream FPS like Modern Warfare or Battlefield Bad Company. Game developers just give a sh*t about this stuff. 13-year-old kids screaming and b*tching in multiplayer would not notice the difference. [Ragnar]<br />
:: 3-burst is for nubs that can't cut it by themselves.<br />
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::The M5 RAS on the M16A4 is made by KAC, not King Arms. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 11:33, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Of course I realize that having it full auto is just a screw up, like in most movies, and I'm not talking about the C7A2, with the green furniture and ambi controls, I meant the C7A1, which is the same in terms of appearance. Here's one without an ELCAN, because I know someone will complain about that:<br />
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/7/76/20080716042205!C7A1_with_IronSights.JPG<br />
Oh and you can put the KAC Rails on any M16-length AR, so that's not really an issue, some of the C7A1s (like the one pictured) had them put on before the C7A2 was introduced with the TRIAD. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It could be a C7, but really, it's just EA's lack of knowledge about weapons, cause full auto is what every assault rifle shoots, right? Man, games like Call of Duty 4 tried their best to keep weapons accurate, now it's all about tacticool weapons that fire full auto and have cool sights and nice finishes. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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Yeah I know, and guns don't need to be re-chambered after they run empty too :p in this and Bad Company 2, it's kind of distracting when I'm playing to be honest, well, I've gotten used to it a little more by now. Okay what I don't get is why can't it be listed as a C7A1? Or at least mentioned... If there was an gun listed as an M4 (not A1) and it was firing full auto you guys would have no problem saying it's actually an M4A1, or an AK-47 is really an AKM, so why can't the M16 really be a C7? I realize it's just a mistake on the developer's part, but that doesn't stop us pointing out the other ones... [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:56, 2 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I think it would be a good idea if we mentioned that in reality, this would class it as a C7A1 etc. [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 18:26, 2 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Has there even ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game? At any rate, I think just noting that it's inaccurately portrayed as full auto is enough. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 20:43, 3 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto! But yeah, just classify the M16 in MOH as a C7A1, cause in reality that's what it is. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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::http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/1009334.page<br />
Best 5 minutes of my life reading this! [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 20:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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''Well if you talk to the Green Beret on Deadliest Warrior, he'll tell you the M4 can go burst AND full auto!'' - Believe it or not, 4-position selectors for AR-15 type rifles exist. There should be a link to the patent in the Season 2 discussion. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 22:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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The so-called "Green Berets" on that show were idiot actors who didn't do their research, so I don't really give a crap about what they say. The M4A1 as used by the US military is safe/semi/auto, no burst. 4-pos selectors may exist, but the US military does not use them. That also wasn't an answer my question. ''Have there ever been any instances of a burst-firing M4 used in any movie or video game?'' By "burst-firing M4", I mean the M4 with M16A2/A4 trigger group as issued en mass to regular US Army troops. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 07:01, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I only know of two games that have M4s with the A2/A4 trigger group. There's one of the Call of Duty Modern Warfare games for the Nintendo DS, and then there's the Battlefield 2 mod [[Project Reality]], where it features both burst-firing M4s for the Americans and full-auto M4A1s for the Israelis.--[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 16:58, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thank you, that ''did'' answer my question. Also, lol @the thread on EA Forums. That was a pretty entertaining read. Though I quite disagree with the guy who claims you can't know anything about an M16 or other firearm without having handled or used one. I've never handled an M16, but I still know the difference between an A1, A2, A3, and A4. Good thing I quit bothering with that place within the first few days I registered, otherwise I'd probably be ankle-deep in that ****storm. XD [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 22:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::To Hoot471, that forum nearly gave me a headsplosion, how can people be so unbelievably ignorant and stupid?! - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
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== Hi-Def MP videos ==<br />
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You guys might want to check this out: On YouTube, there's someone by the name of deluxe345 who has Hi-Definition videos from the Medal of Honor multiplayer (there are 3 or 4). Also, in one of these videos, I spotted an M224 mortar in the killfeed.<br />
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==360 Beta?==<br />
Alright, does anyone on Earth have a clue when the 360 beta for this comes out!? PS3 and PC went up June 21st, and yet 360 is still delayed, anyone got a clue? [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]<br />
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I got deployed for deepwater horizon so no vid games till september. I seriously wish that the release had been on time, I could have played it.<br />
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==Clip/Magazine==<br />
A frivolous debate, but why oh why must they call the magazines "clips" in the game? Yuck. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]<br />
:I don't know why, but the same error happened in an episode in Lois & Clark. They probably got confused with clips and magazines since that they are both similar. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 19:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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There is nothing similar between a clip and a magazine. A Magazine is a block that stores the bullets, a clip is a strip of metal that holds the bullets that are then FED into a Magazine. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 01:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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They could have said the slang term "mag" though.<br />
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=="The Catalyst" Linkin Park song trailer==<br />
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Well, there gave been some new guns spotted and i already identified few of them. But can someone help me with this ?<br />
[[Image:MOHUNKNOWNGUN.JPG|500px|thumb|center|]]<br />
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Magazine seems to wide and big for 5.56. I truly need help with this.<br />
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Could it be the 417 ?<br />
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:Why is it that people immediatly assume a HK 416 or a HK 417 when it comes to this kind of thing? People apparently have never heard of a AR 10 before.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 19:41, 27 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I'm pretty sure the MP5 is shown at one point in the trailer. I'd have to look at the trailer again to find the exact point, but I'll update when I do find the time stamp. Lets hope we see the MP5 in multiplayer as well as the campaign if my spot is correct. Also, I'm pretty sure the picture shown above is just the M4A1, but I'm not 100%. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 22:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
1:30 seconds in, on the operator's chest. I am pretty sure that's an MP5A3 or A5. Can anyone confirm? --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 23:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:That's M4 or might be h&k 416. Clip is just taped. Also, all this specop theme became too popularized after MW1. Don't like.<br />
::It's called a Magazine or Mag. Don't like [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::After re-watching the video for the 17th or so time, the weapon I thought was the MP5 was just an MP7 that blended a little too well into the vest. That said, I did notice that one of the Rangers in the trailer was using an Aimpoint M68 (Comp M2) sight on his M4A1. Possibly another sight option? Who knows. I just know I'm excited for this game.<br />
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It's an M4 kitted out with an EOTech 552, KAC Free-Float RAS, PEQ-2A, and KAC broomstick. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 05:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Unimpressed....==<br />
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Anybody else feel unimpressed looking at this game? I mean, nothing about it really stands out to me. The firearm selection is trite and cliche, the modern military tacticool spec ops motif has been done far too much, and so has the idea of weapon customization. Honestly, when I saw this game I just kinda yawned and moved on. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 19:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
: About that firearms choose : So you would give terrorists XM8´s, just because its cliche in video games ? No. So why not give them weapons they use in real ?<br />
: No I wouldn't, unless a terrorist militia could plausibly get it hand's on a bunch of HK weapons. I'm just sort of sick of seeing the same stuff over and over and over. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 09:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I actually see this as a good change from Modern Warfare and Bad Company rather than yet another tacticool game. Sure, most of it has been done, but so has most other games. At least its not YET another World War 2 sim.--[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 20:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC) <br />
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But see, that's the whole thing. Instead of "yet another WW2 sim," it's become "yet another Spec Ops shooter." And for the record, I liked Bad Company, and I don't see how this will be any different. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 23:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I am truly impressed with this game. Lets talk about it as MW2 on steroids : <br />
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:'''Much more realistic''' ('' Cmon, Russians with tavors and milita with tactical AK´s ?'' )<br />
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:'''Much better atmosphere''' ( ''That attempt to make everything cool just failed. Also enviroment wasnt the best seriously'' )<br />
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:'''Better Gameplay''' ( ''It probably wont be just about shooting thousands of enemy troops. Also helicopter. Probably even some AI will be included ?'' )<br />
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Then I better get this for my 360 then PC, cause the graphics are just as high as BC 2 so it'll mess with my PC. The Multiplayer was designed by the same guys who did Bad Company, so we see a lot of their handy work. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, comparing ANYTHING to MW2 instantly makes it better. And if what excalibur says is true, then I'm inclined to go with what everybody else has been saying and write it off as Bad Company 2 with Taliban. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 11:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
: We are talking about SP. MP will be BC2 clone ( ''Yeah. Same people are doing it, why not then ?'' ).. But SP will be better :P<br />
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Heavily looking forward to SP. MP might as well be called "Call of Duty: Bad Company 8".<br />
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Oh yeah, I'd certainly be willing to try the single player if it looks any good. Not sure if I'd pay full release price for it though, I'll probably go out and buy it later on when it gets down to like 40 bucks. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 14:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I just find it odd that they'd get a completely different group to do the multiplayer and when you look at the multiplayer, it feels like MW2 but with a different game engine. The point and level up system is essentially the same, but the classes are almost the same from Bad Company. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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To be honest, I had high hopes for this game, but with the "Catalyst" trailer (overly dramatic acting plus ear-bleeding Linkin Park= FAIL), it just looks like something else that fanboys will be able to wax their carrots to. Ain't no way in hell I'm shelling out $60 just to hear some USI-infested teenager (whose gamertag is [USMC]"xxSwaggaSniperxx" or something else that sounds mall ninja-ish) cuss me out after I've killed him twice in a row.[[Special:Contributions/74.192.58.206|74.192.58.206]]<br />
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I watched said trailer and completely gave up on this game. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 09:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Yeah. After this, we're gonna hear a bunch of kids running around yelling "yaaah I am teh Tier 1!" Methinks that some top dog at EA got a boner after reading Sean Naylor's ''Not a Good Day to Die'' and got the idea to rehash a great book and dumb it down into a cheap vidya game.[[Special:Contributions/74.192.58.206|74.192.58.206]] 22:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Everyone, this is a video game. Nobody cares how realistic or how the story is, if you can shoot thing and take control of an over exaggeration of our armed forces, then people will buy it no matter what; it sells.<br />
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We care! Unrealistic video games do not bother us, but a video game that is suppose to be realistic and ends up not being realistic does bother us. This is IMFDB, we are suppose to judge how realistic weapons are in media. The SkinnyWhiteGuy from the RE: Extinction discussion.<br />
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== Dragunov ==<br />
Where did it come from that the NDM-86 is in 7.62x51mm? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
: Oh, wait, what ?<br />
::Look at the mag in the weapon selection screen shot. It's clearly not the Dragunov's standard mag and a straight 7.62x51mm mag. I agree with whoever did the change that it's the NDM-86. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 13:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, i have done it. And it doesnt have anything to do with 7.62x51, its actually standart .308 winchester. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Last I checked, the .308 was the civilian version of the 7.62 NATO. So in other words, it's the same round for the purposes of this discussion. Don't mean to sound rude or anything, just something to think about. --[[User:1SAZ|1SAZ]] 14:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::: ( ''Wow, so many "''':'''" symbols'' ) Well, .308 is more powerfull i think. But whatever - Im glad someone agrees that NDM-86 is there. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 14:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::::It's the same basic round, 7.62 NATO is just loaded to a higher pressure than civilian .308, I think. But I now see what you mean about the mag. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:35, 6 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Speaking of Soviet-bloc weapons, whoever labeled the AK-47 as a "Type 56" may want to check the picture where the player is looking down the sights (Hint: the front sight is not fully enclosed)<br />
: I just renamed SVD. Type 56 is someone else´s job. --[[User:Werc|Werc]] 17:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Why is the AK labeled a Type 56? it has a open sight and no pig-sticker. --[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Reverted it back to AK-47. I'd like to hear the explanation as to why it was changed in the first place. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 03:59, 18 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Granted there are lots of Type 56 rifles in the middle east because of the CIA, but this gun just isn't.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 19:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Ugh...==<br />
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38740099/ns/technology_and_science-games/<br />
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words cannot describe how incredibly stupid I think this is. Nobody makes a big fuss when the Taliban is put in a movie, but the SECOND people even THINK of putting it in a VIDEO GAME... I admit, I do see how people could take this the wrong way, but seriously... it's just a game. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 19:48, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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We have 'American soldiers' dying in games like Modern Warfare 2 and BC2, but no one raises a fuss. Deal with it, news outlets. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 20:38, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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God forbid our enemy get slandered in a video game!--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 20:40, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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thats more political bull shit. i dont know a person in america who likes the taliban. its a game. playing as the taliban doesnt mean you like their "self-righteous" and stupid anti-american ideas. thats like saying because your playing as Spetznaz in MW2 that your being insensitive. people care when you play as talibans. but dont even mention "No Russian" [[User:Dirtdiver 6421|Dirtdiver 6421]] 20:54, 17 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Wait, they don't make bad press articles about Grand Theft Auto 4 when that came out and sold millions, but when it comes to a game based on real soldiers, games have crossed the line? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 05:46, 18 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It gets worse than that on this side of the water; the British Defence Secretary has called for the game to be '''banned'''.<br />
[http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100822/ttc-fox-urges-ban-on-taliban-video-game-e1d36ba.html Seriously.]<br />
[[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 08:42, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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'''JESUS''' Didnt you play as insurgent in MW ? Didnt you control nazi plane in all those WW flying simulators ? They are crazy. Right now, im glad that politicans are stupid in my country. Seriously, they dont even know about some MoH.<br />
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It's shocking that someone would think it acceptable to recreate the acts of the Taliban. At the hands of the Taliban, children have lost fathers and wives have lost husbands.<br />
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^^ No kidding? Same with the Nazis, and yet it's perfectly ok to play as them. There's nothing I hate more than double fucking standards. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 14:31, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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"I am disgusted and angry. It's hard to believe any citizen of our country would wish to buy such a thoroughly un-British game. I would urge retailers to show their support for our armed forces and ban this tasteless product." <br />
Let's get something straight here. I have played as Russian Spetsnaz, killing American and British soldiers. I have played as Japanese soldiers, killing American infantry. I have played as THE NAZIS, for god's sake, who not only killed Americans and British soldiers but also took part in the wholesale slaughter of the Jewish people. I have played as a Russian terrorist and mowed down an AIRPORT full of defenseless people, I have played as a drug dealing criminal with the option to kill innocents, a hitman with the option to brutally kill my targets, and yet if I get the option to play as a bunch of fucking towelheads, the game is an affront to humanity and needs to be BANNED? People need to wake the fuck up. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.244|98.118.59.244]] 14:26, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It is beginning to smack of controversy for controversy's sake. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 20:41, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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And now it's made its way across the pond: [http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/111/1117837p1.html] --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 21:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/103328-Jack-Thompson-Vows-to-Stop-Medal-of-Honor Guess who's jumped on the bandwagon and demonstrated a mile of research-fail in the process?] [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 08:01, 13 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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"the high level of realism makes it an effective training tool for the Taliban and other forces currently engaged with the U.S. military."<br />
>because the Taliban only uses lefty configured guns, and they happen to have ALL the next gen consoles in their holes.<br />
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== CONFIRMED new Weapons? ==<br />
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This Gameplay is from Gamescom 2010. This footage confirms the F2000 , the P90 , And others (pleae watch the killfeed, VERY Closely to see the names<br />
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http://www.gamepro.com/video/gameplay/146685/medal-of-honor-gc2010-cam-gameplay/<br />
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I got two screens, one confirming weapon customization (Thankgod maybe no Gl's on all assault rifles :'] ) and one of the F2000 WITH Correct Grenade Launcher fitting (Removed handgaurd for placement)<br />
I will post more screens when i get them! I need Embedding help so if i post the links is that ok?<br />
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http://i33.tinypic.com/359zs06.png<br />
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http://i34.tinypic.com/e5fogo.png<br />
[[User:WhatARandomer|WhatARandomer]] 08:55, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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In the killfeed, there is two weapons tht are unknown to most people one is called Axe (whether we get Custom Melee weapons is uncertain) and the other is HG No full name just an abbrieviation of HG.<br />
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I recall someone mentioning that the axe was the Taliban's equivalent of the knife for multiplayer. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 19:03, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Oh yeah, the dirks use a hachet instead of a knife in the beta, kinda funny. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 21:01, 27 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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HG could be short for hand granade<br />
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Hmm could be, but I think Grenades on the killfeed appear as either GRENADE or an explosion/grenade symbol, ill rewatch the video(s) and look for any indication that HG is something other than a Hand Grenade [[User:WhatARandomer|WhatARandomer]] 12:50, 25 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Updated the page with weapons seen in the new MP trailer. --[[User:HashiriyaR32|HashiriyaR32]] 19:15, 27 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Games in Steven Speilberg category?==<br />
Should we put all of the MoH games into the Steven Speilberg category as he's the creator of the series? - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 23:11, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well are there any credits for Speilberg having a hand in THIS Medal of Honor game? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 20:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Wikipedia just says that he's the creator of the series, not a designer of the series. - [[User:Kenny99|Kenny99]] 21:19, 30 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Sure, but did he have a hand in this one? Just because he created the series, doesn't mean he's been behind the entire series up to now. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:18, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Graphical Engine for the game==<br />
I was watching a video on Medal of Honor and it stated that the single-player campaign is using the Unreal 3 Engine and the multiplayer will be using the Frostbite Engine (made famous by Bad Company). Just thought you guys would like to know! [[User:SeanWolf]]<br />
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This doesn't make sense. Why make the singleplayer with one engine and use a completely different engine for multiplayer? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:21, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Old news, buddy. Maybe you should change your username to SeanSlowpoke. I keed, but not much.-protoAuthor 02:23, 31 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hey dont blame me..i just found out about that when i was watching a video about the game. Plus, i usually dont hear about video game news until the day after, so yeah. But still, yeah it doesnt make sense to use two different graphical engines for the game but who knows... [[User:SeanWolf]]<br />
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The reason for this is EA: LA are incharge of Singleplayer, and DICE are incharge of multiplayer, both using engines they're familiar with. [[User:WhatARandomer|WhatARandomer]] 08:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=MG_15&diff=326785MG 152010-09-10T23:29:04Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Anime */</p>
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<div>'''The MG15 machine gun can be seen in the following films used by the following actors:'''<br />
[[Image:MG15.jpg|thumb|right|500px|MG15 machine gun 7.92x57mm Mauser]]<br />
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The MG15 was a 7.92x57mm machine gun designed specifically as a hand manipulated defensive gun for combat aircraft during the early 1930s. By 1941 it was replaced by other types and found new uses with ground troops.<br />
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=== Film ===<br />
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{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%;" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"<br />
|-bgcolor=#D0E7FF<br />
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="220"|'''Title'''<br />
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="170"|'''Actor'''<br />
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="200"|'''Character'''<br />
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="280"|'''Note'''<br />
!align=center bgcolor=#D0E7FF width="80"|'''Date'''<br />
|-<br />
| [[Raiders of the Lost Ark]] || [[Karen Allen]] || Marion Ravenwood || Twin-mounted in rear turret of 'Flying Wing' aircraft || 1981<br />
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| [[Pearl Harbor]] || || || Mounted on Heinkel He-111 bombers || 2001<br />
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[[Category:Gun]]<br />
[[Category:Machine Gun]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=MG_34&diff=326784MG 342010-09-10T23:28:49Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Movies */</p>
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<div>==Specifications==<br />
[[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|right|600px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with front and rear sights folded down.]]<br />
[[Image:mg-34man-portable.jpg|thumb|right|600px|MG34 with 75 round drum magazine 7.92x57mm Mauser.]]<br />
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* '''Caliber:''' 7.92x57mm<br />
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* '''Length:''' 48.25 inches<br />
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* '''Barrel Length:''' 24.75 inches<br />
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* '''Weight:''' <br />
:Gun: 26.75 pounds<br />
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* '''Muzzle Velocity:''' 2480 feet per second<br />
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* '''Maximum range:''' is 3,526 meters<br />
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* '''Maximum effective range:''' is 1,000 meters<br />
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* '''Cyclic rate of fire:''' 800-900 rounds per minute<br />
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'''The MG34 machine gun can be seen in the following films and video games used by the following actors:'''<br />
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=== Movies ===<br />
* A German soldier in ''[[Brother's War]]'' (2009)<br />
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* Four MG-34 Light Machine Guns mount on Pachenko ([[Max Ryan]])'s car In ''[[Death Race]]''<br />
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* [[Klaus-Peter Thiele]] as Werner Holt in ''[[Die Abenteuer des Werner Holt]]''<br />
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* Imperial Stormtroopers in ''[[Star Wars]]'' (as the "DLT-19 heavy blaster rifle")<br />
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* ''[[The Big Red One]]'' (1980)<br />
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* German soldiers in ''[[A Bridge Too Far]]''<br />
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* German soldiers in ''[[The Bridge at Remagen]]''<br />
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* German soldiers in ''[[Sahara (1995)]]''<br />
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* A German soldier in ''[[Dirty Dozen: Next Mission, The|The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission]]'' (1985)<br />
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* Mounted on Maj. Gobler's ([[Anthony Higgins]]) car in ''[[Raiders of the Lost Ark]]'' (1981)<br />
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* Mounted on a Soviet East German car in ''[[Top Secret!]]''<br />
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* NVA soldiers in ''[[We Were Soldiers]]''<br />
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* Mounted on Motorcycle side car in ''[[The Eagle Has Landed]]''<br />
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* Mounted on Motorcycle side car in ''[[Schindler's List]]''<br />
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=== Television ===<br />
* ''[[Weaponology]]''<br />
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=== Video Games ===<br />
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* ''[[Call of Duty: Big Red One]]''<br />
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* ''[[Call of Duty 3]]''<br />
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* ''[[Day of Defeat]]''<br />
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* ''[[Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45]]''<br />
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* Mounted in German Panzer IV tanks in ''[[Medal of Honor: Frontline]]''<br />
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* Mounted on German Panzer IV tanks and Half-Tracks in ''[[Call of Duty: World at War: Final Fronts]]''<br />
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* Mounted on German tanks in ''[[Call of Duty]]''<br />
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* ''[[Call of Duty: United Offensive]]'' (man-portable and vehicle-mounted)<br />
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* ''[[Silent Storm]]''<br />
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* ''[[Star Wars: Battlefront]]'' As the imperial sniper rifle.<br />
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=== Anime ===<br />
* ''[[Strike Witches]]''<br />
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[[Category:Gun]]<br />
[[Category:Machine Gun]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=MG_34&diff=326783MG 342010-09-10T23:28:38Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>==Specifications==<br />
[[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|right|600px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with front and rear sights folded down.]]<br />
[[Image:mg-34man-portable.jpg|thumb|right|600px|MG34 with 75 round drum magazine 7.92x57mm Mauser.]]<br />
<br />
* '''Caliber:''' 7.92x57mm<br />
<br />
* '''Length:''' 48.25 inches<br />
<br />
* '''Barrel Length:''' 24.75 inches<br />
<br />
* '''Weight:''' <br />
:Gun: 26.75 pounds<br />
<br />
* '''Muzzle Velocity:''' 2480 feet per second<br />
<br />
* '''Maximum range:''' is 3,526 meters<br />
<br />
* '''Maximum effective range:''' is 1,000 meters<br />
<br />
* '''Cyclic rate of fire:''' 800-900 rounds per minute<br />
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'''The MG34 machine gun can be seen in the following films and video games used by the following actors:'''<br />
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=== Movies ===<br />
* A German soldier in ''[[Brother's War]]'' (2009)<br />
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* Four MG-34 Light Machine Guns mount on Pachenko ([[Max Ryan]])'s car In ''[[Death Race]]''<br />
<br />
* [[Klaus-Peter Thiele]] as Werner Holt in ''[[Die Abenteuer des Werner Holt]]''<br />
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* Imperial Stormtroopers in ''[[Star Wars]]'' (as the "DLT-19 heavy blaster rifle")<br />
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* ''[[The Big Red One]]'' (1980)<br />
<br />
* German soldiers in ''[[A Bridge Too Far]]''<br />
<br />
* German soldiers in ''[[The Bridge at Remagen]]''<br />
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* German soldiers in ''[[Sahara (1995)]]''<br />
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* A German soldier in ''[[Dirty Dozen: Next Mission, The|The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission]]'' (1985)<br />
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* Mounted on Maj. Gobler's ([[Anthony Higgins]]) car in ''[[Raiders of the Lost Ark]]'' (1981)<br />
<br />
* Mounted on a Soviet East German car in ''[[Top Secret!]]''<br />
<br />
* NVA soldiers in ''[[We Were Soldiers]]''<br />
<br />
* Mounted on Motorcycle side car in ''[[The Eagle Has Landed]]''<br />
<br />
* Mounted on Motorcycle side car in ''[[Schindler's List]]''<br />
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=== Television ===<br />
* ''[[Weaponology]]''<br />
<br />
=== Video Games ===<br />
<br />
* ''[[Call of Duty: Big Red One]]''<br />
<br />
* ''[[Call of Duty 3]]''<br />
<br />
* ''[[Day of Defeat]]''<br />
<br />
* ''[[Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45]]''<br />
<br />
* Mounted in German Panzer IV tanks in ''[[Medal of Honor: Frontline]]''<br />
<br />
* Mounted on German Panzer IV tanks and Half-Tracks in ''[[Call of Duty: World at War: Final Fronts]]''<br />
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* Mounted on German tanks in ''[[Call of Duty]]''<br />
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* ''[[Call of Duty: United Offensive]]'' (man-portable and vehicle-mounted)<br />
<br />
* ''[[Silent Storm]]''<br />
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* ''[[Star Wars: Battlefront]]'' As the imperial sniper rifle.<br />
<br />
=== Movies ===<br />
* ''[[Strike Witches]]''<br />
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[[Category:Gun]]<br />
[[Category:Machine Gun]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Strike_Witches&diff=326782Strike Witches2010-09-10T23:27:35Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* MG15 */</p>
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<div>Strike Witches is a mixed-media project originally created by Humikane Shimada via a series of magazine illustration columns. It was later adapted into two light novel series, two manga series, an anime OVA, and a televised anime series. The story revolves around teenage girls who are essentially moe anthropomorphizations of military planes. The OVA preview episode was released on January 1, 2007. The televised anime series later premiered on July 3, 2008, concluding September 18. Official confirmation of a second season of the anime was announced on February 27, 2009, and is currently running. <br />
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'''The following guns can be seen in the anime Strike Witches:'''<br />
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[[Image:Strike-witches.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Strike Witches '''(2008-present)''''']]<br />
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==STEN==<br />
[[Sten]] Mk. II submachine guns are used by British troops who replace the Strike Witches with the Warlock unit. They use shoulder straps pulled tight rather than the stock, presumably to allow better accuracy when hip-fired.<br />
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[[Image:Sten.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sten Mk II submachine gun 9x19mm Parabellum]]<br />
[[Image:SWSTEN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers and their STENs. The man in the officer's uniform is based on real-life RAF commander Lord Hugh Dowding.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers encircle the witches.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN5.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke, showing admirable calm despite being held at gunpoint by British troops.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN6.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A soldier confiscates Sakamoto's katana, STEN slung over his shoulder.]]<br />
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==Walther PPK/S==<br />
A [[Walther PPK]] is issued to Miyafuji when she first arrives in Britannia. She refuses it, however, stating a dislike for firearms. Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke carries one on her person, and is notably seen using it to threaten Sakamoto. It can be assumed that most, if not all, of the witches were issued a PPK upon their arrival at the base.<br />
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[[Image:PPK_stainless.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walther PPK - .380 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:SWPPKS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The PPK lies on top of a box containing Yoshika's personal effects. Note the Walther logo, and that the safety is on.]] <br />
[[Image:SWPPKS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika returns the PPK, stating that she dislikes guns.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna draws her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Minna_ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna aims her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk_barrel.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup of the PPK's barrel, note the Walther logo.]]<br />
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==MG42==<br />
The [[MG42]] is carried by most members of the 501st JFW. Due to her strength ability, Gertrud Barkhorn prefers using two MG-42s at once, often with devastating effect. Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen prefers the MG-42 to her heavier Suomi M1931, and Minna likes the "balance of power and stability." Erica prefers it to her [[MP40]] sidearm because "it shoots fast and rarely stops working." All Strike Witches MG-42s are modified to use 75 round MG-34 type double-drum magazines. <br />
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[[Image:MG42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[MG42]] 7.92 x 57mm Mauser (8mm Mauser)]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna and Erica Hartmann with their MG-42s, whereas Charlotte Yeager carries her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The witches prepare for battle. Note Barkhorn wielding two MG-42s akimbo.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG422.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica opens fire with her MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG423.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen, using an MG-42 in battle.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG424.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica lays down fire with the MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG425.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Barkhorn with her dual MG-42s.]]<br />
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==BREN==<br />
A [[Bren gun]] is carried by Perrine Clostermann. She states that she would prefer to use a [[Chatellerault M1924/29]], but is unable to obtain one. Instead, she uses the BREN, which is similar to the Chatellerault in many aspects but is presumably easier to obtain in Britannia.<br />
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[[Image:Bren_mk2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bren - .303 British]]<br />
[[Image:SWBREN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Perrine with her BREN gun.]]<br />
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==Boys Anti-Tank Rifle==<br />
Carried by Lynette Bishop in her role as the squad's designated marksman. While she uses a Boys Mk. I, she has switched the muzzle brake to that of a Mk. II, which according to her makes it easier to use.<br />
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[[Image:SWBOYS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lynette takes a shot with her Boys, while Sanya holds her custom Fliegerhammer.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBOYS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]]<br />
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==Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR)==<br />
A [[Browning Automatic Rifle]] is carried by Charlotte Yeager. Shirley actually dislikes the gun for the most part, citing the relatively small ammo capacity, even with the custom 40 round magazines she uses. She also dislikes the fixed barrel, which she can't replace if the gun overheats (though she admits somewhat sarcastically that this is unlikely due to the ammo capacity.) The one aspect Shirley does like about the BAR is it's durability, stating it can be used even if one doesn't take much care of it.<br />
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[[Image:BAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley (on the left) with her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley fires her BAR...while upside-down.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1919.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A beautful shot of Shirley's BAR. Also, note Luchinni with the M1919.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBARMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley carries her BAR while Erica carries it's nemesis, the MG-42.]]<br />
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==M1919A6==<br />
A [[Browning M1919]] A6 is carried by Francesca Lucchini. It was given to her by Shirley after she misplaced the Italian weapons she brought to Britannia with her. Francesca states that she likes the gun because of the high rate of fire, durability, and high ammo capacity.<br />
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[[Image:M1919a6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1919A6 .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW19191.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lucchini and Eila dodge incoming fire.]] <br />
[[Image:SW19192.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SW19193.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another beautifully clear shot, this time of Lucchini's M1919. Note the box magazine and shoulder stock.]]<br />
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==Type 99-1 Cannon==<br />
The Japanese Type 99-1 cannon in flexible mount configuration is used by both Sakamoto Mio and Yoshika Miyafuji. It has been modified to utilize a conventional pistol grip more suitable for dismounted use.<br />
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[[image:Type_99-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Type 99-1 20mm cannon.]]<br />
[[Image:SWT991.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika demonstrates good trigger discipline with her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT992.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The Type 99-1 rests in a specially made cradle inside the hangar.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT994.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Mio Sakamoto fires her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT995.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika aims her Type 99-1.]]<br />
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==Fliegerhammer (modified Fliegerfaust)==<br />
Carried by Sanya V. Litvyak. It is based on the design of a Fliegerfaust, with the 9 round capacity of a Fliegerfaust B. Sanya is able to channel her magic into the weapon, thereby making the rockets more powerful. The Fliegerhammer is also capable of something resembling automatic fire, in that the operator can fire one rocket after another simply by holding down the trigger.<br />
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[[Image:SWRPG.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Sanya prepares to fire the Fliegerhammer. Underestimating a cute girl with a 9 shot rocket launcher is likely one of the last mistakes you'll ever make.]]<br />
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fliegerfaust] Wikipedia page for the real life Fliegerfaust, similar to Sanya's Fliegerhammer.<br />
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==Nambu Type 14==<br />
A [[Nambu Type 14 Pistol]] is used in Season 2 Episode 2 by Mio's assistant to help her test the abilities of her shield.<br />
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[[Image:NambuType14Pistol.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Nambu Type 14 8x22mm Nambu]]<br />
[[Image:Nambu.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mio's assistant fires the Nambu.]]<br />
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==MG34==<br />
An [[MG34]] is used by Hanna Justina Marseille as her primary weapon.<br />
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[[Image:mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG34 7.92x57mm Mauser with front and rear sights folded down]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15witches.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica open fire. Notice that Hanna uses the bipod on her weapon as a foregrip.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup on the MG34's barrel.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna holds the MG34.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica face off.]]<br />
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[[Category:Anime]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Strike_Witches&diff=326653Strike Witches2010-09-10T20:24:17Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* MG15 */</p>
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<div>Strike Witches is a mixed-media project originally created by Humikane Shimada via a series of magazine illustration columns. It was later adapted into two light novel series, two manga series, an anime OVA, and a televised anime series. The story revolves around teenage girls who are essentially moe anthropomorphizations of military planes. The OVA preview episode was released on January 1, 2007. The televised anime series later premiered on July 3, 2008, concluding September 18. Official confirmation of a second season of the anime was announced on February 27, 2009, and is currently running. <br />
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'''The following guns can be seen in the anime Strike Witches:'''<br />
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[[Image:Strike-witches.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Strike Witches '''(2008-present)''''']]<br />
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==STEN==<br />
[[Sten]] Mk. II submachine guns are used by British troops who replace the Strike Witches with the Warlock unit. They use shoulder straps pulled tight rather than the stock, presumably to allow better accuracy when hip-fired.<br />
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[[Image:Sten.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sten Mk II submachine gun 9x19mm Parabellum]]<br />
[[Image:SWSTEN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers and their STENs. The man in the officer's uniform is based on real-life RAF commander Lord Hugh Dowding.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers encircle the witches.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN5.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke, showing admirable calm despite being held at gunpoint by British troops.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN6.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A soldier confiscates Sakamoto's katana, STEN slung over his shoulder.]]<br />
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==Walther PPK/S==<br />
A [[Walther PPK]] is issued to Miyafuji when she first arrives in Britannia. She refuses it, however, stating a dislike for firearms. Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke carries one on her person, and is notably seen using it to threaten Sakamoto. It can be assumed that most, if not all, of the witches were issued a PPK upon their arrival at the base.<br />
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[[Image:PPK_stainless.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walther PPK - .380 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:SWPPKS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The PPK lies on top of a box containing Yoshika's personal effects. Note the Walther logo, and that the safety is on.]] <br />
[[Image:SWPPKS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika returns the PPK, stating that she dislikes guns.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna draws her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Minna_ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna aims her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk_barrel.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup of the PPK's barrel, note the Walther logo.]]<br />
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==MG42==<br />
The [[MG42]] is carried by most members of the 501st JFW. Due to her strength ability, Gertrud Barkhorn prefers using two MG-42s at once, often with devastating effect. Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen prefers the MG-42 to her heavier Suomi M1931, and Minna likes the "balance of power and stability." Erica prefers it to her [[MP40]] sidearm because "it shoots fast and rarely stops working." All Strike Witches MG-42s are modified to use 75 round MG-34 type double-drum magazines. <br />
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[[Image:MG42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[MG42]] 7.92 x 57mm Mauser (8mm Mauser)]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna and Erica Hartmann with their MG-42s, whereas Charlotte Yeager carries her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The witches prepare for battle. Note Barkhorn wielding two MG-42s akimbo.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG422.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica opens fire with her MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG423.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen, using an MG-42 in battle.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG424.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica lays down fire with the MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG425.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Barkhorn with her dual MG-42s.]]<br />
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==BREN==<br />
A [[Bren gun]] is carried by Perrine Clostermann. She states that she would prefer to use a [[Chatellerault M1924/29]], but is unable to obtain one. Instead, she uses the BREN, which is similar to the Chatellerault in many aspects but is presumably easier to obtain in Britannia.<br />
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[[Image:Bren_mk2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bren - .303 British]]<br />
[[Image:SWBREN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Perrine with her BREN gun.]]<br />
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==Boys Anti-Tank Rifle==<br />
Carried by Lynette Bishop in her role as the squad's designated marksman. While she uses a Boys Mk. I, she has switched the muzzle brake to that of a Mk. II, which according to her makes it easier to use.<br />
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[[Image:SWBOYS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lynette takes a shot with her Boys, while Sanya holds her custom Fliegerhammer.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBOYS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]]<br />
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==Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR)==<br />
A [[Browning Automatic Rifle]] is carried by Charlotte Yeager. Shirley actually dislikes the gun for the most part, citing the relatively small ammo capacity, even with the custom 40 round magazines she uses. She also dislikes the fixed barrel, which she can't replace if the gun overheats (though she admits somewhat sarcastically that this is unlikely due to the ammo capacity.) The one aspect Shirley does like about the BAR is it's durability, stating it can be used even if one doesn't take much care of it.<br />
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[[Image:BAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley (on the left) with her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley fires her BAR...while upside-down.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1919.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A beautful shot of Shirley's BAR. Also, note Luchinni with the M1919.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBARMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley carries her BAR while Erica carries it's nemesis, the MG-42.]]<br />
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==M1919A6==<br />
A [[Browning M1919]] A6 is carried by Francesca Lucchini. It was given to her by Shirley after she misplaced the Italian weapons she brought to Britannia with her. Francesca states that she likes the gun because of the high rate of fire, durability, and high ammo capacity.<br />
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[[Image:M1919a6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1919A6 .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW19191.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lucchini and Eila dodge incoming fire.]] <br />
[[Image:SW19192.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SW19193.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another beautifully clear shot, this time of Lucchini's M1919. Note the box magazine and shoulder stock.]]<br />
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==Type 99-1 Cannon==<br />
The Japanese Type 99-1 cannon in flexible mount configuration is used by both Sakamoto Mio and Yoshika Miyafuji. It has been modified to utilize a conventional pistol grip more suitable for dismounted use.<br />
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[[image:Type_99-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Type 99-1 20mm cannon.]]<br />
[[Image:SWT991.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika demonstrates good trigger discipline with her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT992.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The Type 99-1 rests in a specially made cradle inside the hangar.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT994.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Mio Sakamoto fires her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT995.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika aims her Type 99-1.]]<br />
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==Fliegerhammer (modified Fliegerfaust)==<br />
Carried by Sanya V. Litvyak. It is based on the design of a Fliegerfaust, with the 9 round capacity of a Fliegerfaust B. Sanya is able to channel her magic into the weapon, thereby making the rockets more powerful. The Fliegerhammer is also capable of something resembling automatic fire, in that the operator can fire one rocket after another simply by holding down the trigger.<br />
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[[Image:SWRPG.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Sanya prepares to fire the Fliegerhammer. Underestimating a cute girl with a 9 shot rocket launcher is likely one of the last mistakes you'll ever make.]]<br />
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fliegerfaust] Wikipedia page for the real life Fliegerfaust, similar to Sanya's Fliegerhammer.<br />
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==Nambu Type 14==<br />
A [[Nambu Type 14 Pistol]] is used in Season 2 Episode 2 by Mio's assistant to help her test the abilities of her shield.<br />
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[[Image:NambuType14Pistol.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Nambu Type 14 8x22mm Nambu]]<br />
[[Image:Nambu.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mio's assistant fires the Nambu.]]<br />
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==MG15==<br />
An [[MG15 machine gun]] with an MG34 style stock is used by Hanna Justina Marseille as her primary weapon.<br />
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[[Image:MG15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG15 machine gun 7.92x57mm Mauser]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15witches.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica open fire. Notice that Hanna uses the bipod on her weapon as a foregrip.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup on the MG15's barrel.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna holds the MG15.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica face off.]]<br />
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[[Category:Anime]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Strike_Witches&diff=326652Strike Witches2010-09-10T20:21:46Z<p>98.118.59.151: </p>
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<div>Strike Witches is a mixed-media project originally created by Humikane Shimada via a series of magazine illustration columns. It was later adapted into two light novel series, two manga series, an anime OVA, and a televised anime series. The story revolves around teenage girls who are essentially moe anthropomorphizations of military planes. The OVA preview episode was released on January 1, 2007. The televised anime series later premiered on July 3, 2008, concluding September 18. Official confirmation of a second season of the anime was announced on February 27, 2009, and is currently running. <br />
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'''The following guns can be seen in the anime Strike Witches:'''<br />
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[[Image:Strike-witches.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Strike Witches '''(2008-present)''''']]<br />
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==STEN==<br />
[[Sten]] Mk. II submachine guns are used by British troops who replace the Strike Witches with the Warlock unit. They use shoulder straps pulled tight rather than the stock, presumably to allow better accuracy when hip-fired.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Sten.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sten Mk II submachine gun 9x19mm Parabellum]]<br />
[[Image:SWSTEN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers and their STENs. The man in the officer's uniform is based on real-life RAF commander Lord Hugh Dowding.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|British soldiers encircle the witches.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN5.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke, showing admirable calm despite being held at gunpoint by British troops.]] <br />
[[Image:SWSTEN6.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A soldier confiscates Sakamoto's katana, STEN slung over his shoulder.]]<br />
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==Walther PPK/S==<br />
A [[Walther PPK]] is issued to Miyafuji when she first arrives in Britannia. She refuses it, however, stating a dislike for firearms. Minna-Dietlinde Wilcke carries one on her person, and is notably seen using it to threaten Sakamoto. It can be assumed that most, if not all, of the witches were issued a PPK upon their arrival at the base.<br />
<br />
[[Image:PPK_stainless.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Walther PPK - .380 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:SWPPKS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The PPK lies on top of a box containing Yoshika's personal effects. Note the Walther logo, and that the safety is on.]] <br />
[[Image:SWPPKS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika returns the PPK, stating that she dislikes guns.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna draws her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Minna_ppk.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna aims her PPK.]]<br />
[[Image:Ppk_barrel.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup of the PPK's barrel, note the Walther logo.]]<br />
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==MG42==<br />
The [[MG42]] is carried by most members of the 501st JFW. Due to her strength ability, Gertrud Barkhorn prefers using two MG-42s at once, often with devastating effect. Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen prefers the MG-42 to her heavier Suomi M1931, and Minna likes the "balance of power and stability." Erica prefers it to her [[MP40]] sidearm because "it shoots fast and rarely stops working." All Strike Witches MG-42s are modified to use 75 round MG-34 type double-drum magazines. <br />
<br />
[[Image:MG42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|[[MG42]] 7.92 x 57mm Mauser (8mm Mauser)]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Minna and Erica Hartmann with their MG-42s, whereas Charlotte Yeager carries her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The witches prepare for battle. Note Barkhorn wielding two MG-42s akimbo.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG422.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica opens fire with her MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG423.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen, using an MG-42 in battle.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG424.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Erica lays down fire with the MG-42.]] <br />
[[Image:SWMG425.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Barkhorn with her dual MG-42s.]]<br />
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==BREN==<br />
A [[Bren gun]] is carried by Perrine Clostermann. She states that she would prefer to use a [[Chatellerault M1924/29]], but is unable to obtain one. Instead, she uses the BREN, which is similar to the Chatellerault in many aspects but is presumably easier to obtain in Britannia.<br />
<br />
[[Image:Bren_mk2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bren - .303 British]]<br />
[[Image:SWBREN1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Perrine with her BREN gun.]]<br />
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==Boys Anti-Tank Rifle==<br />
Carried by Lynette Bishop in her role as the squad's designated marksman. While she uses a Boys Mk. I, she has switched the muzzle brake to that of a Mk. II, which according to her makes it easier to use.<br />
<br />
[[Image:SWBOYS1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lynette takes a shot with her Boys, while Sanya holds her custom Fliegerhammer.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBOYS2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]]<br />
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==Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR)==<br />
A [[Browning Automatic Rifle]] is carried by Charlotte Yeager. Shirley actually dislikes the gun for the most part, citing the relatively small ammo capacity, even with the custom 40 round magazines she uses. She also dislikes the fixed barrel, which she can't replace if the gun overheats (though she admits somewhat sarcastically that this is unlikely due to the ammo capacity.) The one aspect Shirley does like about the BAR is it's durability, stating it can be used even if one doesn't take much care of it.<br />
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[[Image:BAR.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW1918MG42.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley (on the left) with her BAR.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley fires her BAR...while upside-down.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SWBAR1919.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A beautful shot of Shirley's BAR. Also, note Luchinni with the M1919.]] <br />
[[Image:SWBARMG421.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Shirley carries her BAR while Erica carries it's nemesis, the MG-42.]]<br />
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==M1919A6==<br />
A [[Browning M1919]] A6 is carried by Francesca Lucchini. It was given to her by Shirley after she misplaced the Italian weapons she brought to Britannia with her. Francesca states that she likes the gun because of the high rate of fire, durability, and high ammo capacity.<br />
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[[Image:M1919a6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M1919A6 .30-06]]<br />
[[Image:SW19191.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Lucchini and Eila dodge incoming fire.]] <br />
[[Image:SW19192.jpg|500px|thumb|none|]] <br />
[[Image:SW19193.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Another beautifully clear shot, this time of Lucchini's M1919. Note the box magazine and shoulder stock.]]<br />
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==Type 99-1 Cannon==<br />
The Japanese Type 99-1 cannon in flexible mount configuration is used by both Sakamoto Mio and Yoshika Miyafuji. It has been modified to utilize a conventional pistol grip more suitable for dismounted use.<br />
<br />
[[image:Type_99-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Type 99-1 20mm cannon.]]<br />
[[Image:SWT991.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika demonstrates good trigger discipline with her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT992.jpg|500px|thumb|none|The Type 99-1 rests in a specially made cradle inside the hangar.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT994.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Mio Sakamoto fires her Type 99-1.]] <br />
[[Image:SWT995.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Yoshika aims her Type 99-1.]]<br />
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==Fliegerhammer (modified Fliegerfaust)==<br />
Carried by Sanya V. Litvyak. It is based on the design of a Fliegerfaust, with the 9 round capacity of a Fliegerfaust B. Sanya is able to channel her magic into the weapon, thereby making the rockets more powerful. The Fliegerhammer is also capable of something resembling automatic fire, in that the operator can fire one rocket after another simply by holding down the trigger.<br />
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[[Image:SWRPG.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Sanya prepares to fire the Fliegerhammer. Underestimating a cute girl with a 9 shot rocket launcher is likely one of the last mistakes you'll ever make.]]<br />
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fliegerfaust] Wikipedia page for the real life Fliegerfaust, similar to Sanya's Fliegerhammer.<br />
<br />
==Nambu Type 14==<br />
A [[Nambu Type 14 Pistol]] is used in Season 2 Episode 2 by Mio's assistant to help her test the abilities of her shield.<br />
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[[Image:NambuType14Pistol.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Nambu Type 14 8x22mm Nambu]]<br />
[[Image:Nambu.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Mio's assistant fires the Nambu.]]<br />
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==MG15==<br />
An [[MG15 machine gun]] with an MG34 style stock is used by Hanna Justine Marseille as her primary weapon.<br />
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[[Image:MG15.jpg|thumb|none|500px|MG15 machine gun 7.92x57mm Mauser]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15witches.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica open fire. Notice that Hanna uses the bipod on her weapon as a foregrip.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-2.jpg|500px|thumb|none|A closeup on the MG15's barrel.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-3.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna holds the MG15.]]<br />
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[[Image:MG15-4.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Hanna and Erica face off.]]<br />
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[[Category:Anime]]</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:%22Seburo_Firearms%22&diff=325334Talk:"Seburo Firearms"2010-09-07T23:20:07Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* What's the point of this? */</p>
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<div>== What's the point of this? ==<br />
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I mean, I've seen these fictional weapons in manga and anime, but they don't hold much merit since they are indeed not real. Though they might be based on some real world design, it isn't like any of them are futuristic dress up versions of firearms we know, just "what if" evolutions of firearms. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I've seen them in TV shows... Do you just hate animation?<br />
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I wouldn't have made several anime pages if I HATE animation. I just think that these Seburo guns don't belong here. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 08:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I DON'T think animation belongs, but these props have shown up in live action shows. A few of them were in Battlestar Galactica. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 23:18, 7 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
:let's delete this page. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 22:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC<br />
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On what grounds? No rules are being broken here, as stated before, these fictional firearms are used in multiple shows, both live action and anime, and if I recall, IMFDB has an ENTIRE index of fictional firearms. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 23:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=007:_Nightfire&diff=324666007: Nightfire2010-09-06T16:42:47Z<p>98.118.59.151: /* Heckler & Koch MP5K */</p>
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'''The following weapons are used in the video game ''007: Nightfire'':'''<br />
[[Image:007nightfire.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''007: Nightfire'' (2002)]]<br />
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== Walther PPK ==<br />
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The [[Walther PP Pistol Series#Walther PPK|Walther PPK]] appears in the game as the "Wolfram PP7", and can be fitted with a removable silencer.<br />
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A gold version can be unlocked.<br />
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[[Image:Walther-PPK.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Walther PPK .380 ACP]]<br />
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[[Image:PPK.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Gold version]]<br />
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== Walther P99 ==<br />
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The [[Walther P99]] appears in the game as the "Wolfram P2K", and like the PP7, can also be fitted with a silencer. In the console version, the P99 has an unremovable laser<br />
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A gold version can be unlocked.<br />
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[[Image:Walther-P99-Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther P99 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:007NFWaltherP99.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Walther P99 in PC-version]]<br />
[[Image:007NFWaltherP99S.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Walther P99 with silencer in PC-version]]<br />
[[Image:007NFWaltherP99Rel.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Reloading the Walther P99]]<br />
[[Image:Gibongcub4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Wolfram P2K" in ''007: Nightfire'']]<br />
[[Image:P99GoldNightfire.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Gold version]]<br />
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== Desert Eagle ==<br />
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The [[Desert Eagle]] appears in the game as the "Raptor Magnum", and comes in .50 AE and .357 magnum, the latter having a two-tone pattern and fitted with a laser sight which when activated increases accuracy, but at the cost of a slightly slower rate of fire.<br />
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[[Image:Desert-Eagle.jpeg|thumb|300px|none|Desert Eagle .50 AE]]<br />
[[Image:Raptor.50.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Raptor .50]]<br />
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== Glock 17 ==<br />
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A Glock 17 appears in the game as the "Kowloon Type 40" and the "Kowloon Type 80", the Type 80 being capable of full auto fire as opposed to the Type 40's three-round burst. The K-80 is only available in multiplayer, or as an upgrade for a high score in single player. In multiplayer mode, villain characters can wield akimbo Kowloon pistols.<br />
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[[Image:G screen005.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Kowloon type 40" in ''007: Nightfire'' (notice how the developers reversed the design of the gun. The obvious giveaway is the fact that it ejects cartridges on the left side, whereas a real Glock 18 ejects them on the right and both versions hold an 18 round magazine another give away.) Also note the lack of the selector switch on the slide showing it is a converted Glock. (Even though it is reversed, there is no selector switch on either side of the gun.)]]<br />
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[[Image:Kowloon40.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Duel Wielding Kowloon 40's]]<br />
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== Heckler & Koch MP5K ==<br />
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The [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5K]] appears in the game as the "Deutsche M9K", and has a 21-round magazine (despite the real MP5K having only 15 or 30-round box magazines) and a removable silencer.<br />
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[[Image:MP5KA4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K 9x19mm with 15-round magazine]]<br />
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[[Image:MP5KNightfire.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Silencer attached]]<br />
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== Ruger MP9 ==<br />
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The [[Ruger MP9]] appears in the game as the "Storm M32", with the stock removed. The PC version of the game features a silenced version of this weapon.<br />
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[[Image:RugerMP9Stock.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger MP9 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:007NFRugerMP9.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Ruger MP9 in PC-version]]<br />
[[Image:007NFRugerMP9Rel.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Reloading the Ruger MP9]]<br />
[[Image:007NFRugerMP9S.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Ruger MP9 with silencer in PC-version]]<br />
[[Image:007NFRugerMP9SRel.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Reloading the Ruger MP9 with silencer]]<br />
[[Image:Bongooydygcecex7.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Storm M32" in ''007: Nightfire'']]<br />
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== SIG SG 551 ==<br />
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The [[SIG SG 550#SIG SG 551|SIG SG 551]] appears in the game as the "SG5 Commando", and comes equipped with a laser sight and either a scope or suppressor, the suppressed version being restricted to single and burst fire and has a white pistol grip, stock, and handguard. The PC version of the game adds a laser pointer to the weapon.<br />
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[[Image:Sig-551.jpg|thumb|none|350px|SIG SG 551 5.56x45mm]]<br />
[[Image:007NFSG551.jpg|thumb|500px|none|SIG SG551 with laser sight and optical sight in PC-version]]<br />
[[Image:007NFSG551Scope.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A view through SIG SG551's scope]]<br />
[[Image:SG5.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Standard scoped]]<br />
[[Image:SG5Winter.jpg|thumb|300px|none|White silenced]]<br />
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== SPAS-12 ==<br />
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The [[Franchi SPAS-12]] appears in the game as the "Frinesi Automatic 12." It can be fired pump action, or semi automatic.<br />
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[[Image:Franchi-SPAS12.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Franchi SPAS-12 12 guage]]<br />
[[Image:Franchi SPAS-12 - Nightfire.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Frinesi Automatic 12" in ''007: Nightfire'']]<br />
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== Accuracy International AWM ==<br />
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The [[Accuracy International Arctic Warfare series#AWM|Accuracy International AWM]] appears in the game as the "Winter Tactical Sniper Rifle" and the "Winter Covert Sniper Rifle", the latter being white and fitted with a silencer while the former is green and can be loaded with armor-piercing .300 Winchester Magnum rounds. On the ground has a bolt the right way, but in your hands it has a left bolt handle.<br />
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[[Image:Accuracy International Arctic WarfareM - Psg 90.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Accuracy International Arctic Warfare Magnum .300 Winchester Magnum]]<br />
[[Image:007AW.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Accuracy International AWM in PC-version]]<br />
[[Image:007AWScope.jpg|thumb|500px|none|A view through Accuracy International AWM's scope]]<br />
[[Image:Accuracy_International_AWM.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Winter Covert Sniper Rifle" in ''007: Nightfire'']]<br />
[[Image:WintersTactical.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Note the left side bolt]]<br />
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== Objective Individual Combat Weapon ==<br />
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The [[Objective Individual Combat Weapon]] appears in the game as the "Advanced Individual Munitions System-20" ("AIMS-20" for short) and can fire 5.56mm rifle rounds or 20mm HE-Frag grenade rounds, both of which are targeted via a built-in Infra-Red scope. <br />
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[[Image:Oicw.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Objective Individual Combat Weapon (OICW) 5.56x45mm & 20mm]]<br />
[[Image:AIMS20.jpg|thumb|300px|none|That's one bulky gun]]<br />
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"If the player pays close enough attention to the four lights on the scope of the weapon as they flash, they can keep track of problems with the weapon. Such as, low ammo for the rifle or grenade launcher, or if the scope is "asleep" (hasn't been used for awhile). I have to use this method with the weapon as I play without the HUD." -Camden<br />
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== Phoenix Samurai Laser Rifle ==<br />
A fictious laser gun visually based off of the M16, appears to be crome-plated and has a semi-auto and over-charge setting. With the gun-emplacements option on sometimes a turret with this technology appears in a beam or over-charge setting. These weapons use laser energy and never runs out of ammo, although it does overheat.<br />
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== Milkor MGL ==<br />
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The [[Milkor MGL]] appears in the game as the "Militek Mk.6" and fires grenade rounds that can be set to detonate on impact or after a timed delay. It can also be found as a fixed weapon in some multiplayer level weapon sets.<br />
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[[Image:MMGLMk1.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Milkor MGL 40mm]]<br />
[[Image:Militek6.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br />
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== AT-420 Sentinel / AT-600 Scorpion ==<br />
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The Sentinel and the Scorpion are fictional shoulder fired, reloadable, multilaunch rocket systems. The Sentinel can be fired in either unguided or TV-guided modes, while the Scorpion replaces the TV-guided mode with heat seeking missiles. The Scorpion is also available as a fixed weapon on some multiplayer weapon sets.<br />
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Both weapons use the same model. Drake uses one of those models in the last level, when you vs him.<br />
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[[Image:Sentinel&Scorpion.jpg|thumb|none|300px|]]<br />
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== Browning M2HB Heavy Machine Gun ==<br />
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The [[Browning M2|Browning M2HB heavy machine gun]] appears in multiplayer mode only and is available only with certain weapon sets.<br />
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[[Image:BrowningM2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning M2HB .50 BMG in vehicle mounting]]<br />
[[Image:M2 007Nightfire Screen.JPG|thumb|none|400px|The M2HB in turret mount with a half blast shield.]]<br />
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== GE M134 Minigun ==<br />
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The [[GE M134 Minigun]] appears in multiplayer mode only as a fixed weapon and is available only with certain weapon sets. Care must be taken when using the weapon, as prolonged bursts can cause it to overheat and stop working until it cools back down.<br />
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[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|400px|GE M134 Minigun in 7.62x51mm NATO]]<br />
[[Image:M134 007Nightfire Screen.JPG|thumb|none|400px|A screenshot of the M134 Minigun in a turret mount. Note: The minigun has eight barrels, versus six on the real one.]]<br />
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== M67 Hand Grenade ==<br />
[[Image:Baseball.jpg|thumb|350px|none|M67 Hand Grenade]]<br />
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[[Image:007NFM67.jpg|thumb|500px|none|M67 Hand Grenade in PC-version]]<br />
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== Mk 2 Hand Grenade ==<br />
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The [[Mk 2 hand grenade]] appears in console versions the game as the "Fragmentation Grenade".<br />
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[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]<br />
[[Image:Nightfiregcn 102902 13.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A "Fragmentation Grenade" in ''007: Nightfire'']]<br />
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== Heckler & Koch P11 ==<br />
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The [[Heckler & Koch P11]] underwater pistol appears in the game as the "Korsakov K5 Dart Gun", and is most notably used in the "Night Shift" level to subdue guards without killing them or raising an alarm. Contrary to the real weapon, it only fires 5 non-lethal tranquilizer darts instead of 7 special-purpose underwater bullets.<br />
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[[Image:Hk_p11-1.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Heckler & Koch P11 7.62mm Underwater]]<br />
[[Image:P11 007Nightfire Screen.JPG|thumb|center|400px|A screenshot of the H&K P11 used as a tranquilizer dart gun. Note: The cartridge magazine appears to be nickel-plated.]]<br />
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== Golden Gun ==<br />
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The [[Golden Gun]] appears in the game as it has in all James Bond FPS games.<br />
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[[Image:Golden Gun.jpg|thumb|left|400px|Golden Gun]]<br />
[[Image:GoldenGun.jpg|thumb|400px|center|]]<br />
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== Flashbang ==<br />
Unknown Flashbang grenade. In console versions of 007: Nightfire the flashbang will blind but give no "bang" to deafen the targets despite being a flashBANG<br />
grenade.<br />
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[[Image:007NFFlash.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Unknown flashbang in PC-Version]]<br />
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[[Image:Flashbang.jpg|thumb|500px|none|The Unknown Flashbang as it apears in console versions.]]<br />
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== Radio Controlled Helicopter ==<br />
If this option is turned on during multiplayer, the players can operate a small radio controlled helicopter with AT-600 rocket launchers mounted on the aircraft. (Also equipped with a chain-gun)<br />
[[Image:Heli 007Nightfire Screen.JPG|thumb|none|200px|The Radio-Controlled Attack Helicopter in a screenshot.]]<br />
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== Radio-Controlled Miniature M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank ==<br />
With the "vehicles" option enabled, the player can operate a miniature Abrams battle tank with a mounted grenade launcher and M2 .50 caliber machine gun.<br />
[[Image:Tank 007Nightfire Screen.JPG|thumb|none|300px|A screenshot of the miniature radio-controlled M1 Abrams main battle tank. Note: To get an idea of the size, the 55-gallon drum on the right is life size in-game.]]<br />
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== Briefcase Sentry Gun ==<br />
Appears as the "Ronin". A briefcase with a surprise, it hides a minigun and camera to shoot anyone that crosses it's path that isn't the one that originally set it up. It is available to the player during muliplayer, and is sometimes used by the enemy in the missions to guard hallways or rooms. Can be conrolled remotely by the player that set it up in muliplayer. (isn't mobile)<br />
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==FAMAS==<br />
A [[FAMAS]] appears highly fictionalized as an explosive laser turret in some multiplayer maps, mounted on a turret base with a shield in front of the receiver.</div>98.118.59.151https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Brothers_Bloom&diff=324648Talk:The Brothers Bloom2010-09-06T14:53:53Z<p>98.118.59.151: New page: The "Unknown 1911" looks more like one of the Smith and Wesson automatics. -- K ~~~~</p>
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<div>The "Unknown 1911" looks more like one of the Smith and Wesson automatics. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 14:53, 6 September 2010 (UTC)</div>98.118.59.151